Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:15 pm
cityone wrote:Everything in that article re-affirms to me how ridiculous the signing of cornelius was, "he's raw, just a boy, he needs a lot of coaching etc", it's cringe worthy, what the hell was malky doing spending £8 million and £45k a week on someone who is miles away from what we needed at the beginning of the season??? a blind man could see we needed an experienced striker to help keep us up and we get someone who is one for the future (i've no doubt he'll become a great player somewhere) no wonder malky was sacked. Even the biggest of tan haters must see why he was furious about this signing??? put it this way, how would you feel if it was YOUR money?????
Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:36 pm
Blue_Always wrote:cityone wrote:Everything in that article re-affirms to me how ridiculous the signing of cornelius was, "he's raw, just a boy, he needs a lot of coaching etc", it's cringe worthy, what the hell was malky doing spending £8 million and £45k a week on someone who is miles away from what we needed at the beginning of the season??? a blind man could see we needed an experienced striker to help keep us up and we get someone who is one for the future (i've no doubt he'll become a great player somewhere) no wonder malky was sacked. Even the biggest of tan haters must see why he was furious about this signing??? put it this way, how would you feel if it was YOUR money?????
Where did you see him play to judge how far off he is
Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:39 pm
cityone wrote:Blue_Always wrote:cityone wrote:Everything in that article re-affirms to me how ridiculous the signing of cornelius was, "he's raw, just a boy, he needs a lot of coaching etc", it's cringe worthy, what the hell was malky doing spending £8 million and £45k a week on someone who is miles away from what we needed at the beginning of the season??? a blind man could see we needed an experienced striker to help keep us up and we get someone who is one for the future (i've no doubt he'll become a great player somewhere) no wonder malky was sacked. Even the biggest of tan haters must see why he was furious about this signing??? put it this way, how would you feel if it was YOUR money?????
Where did you see him play to judge how far off he is
Only in the friendlies and the short game time he has been given since his injury, but i go by what the manager (malky) and his back room staff keep saying about the lad, after all, they see him on a day to day basis at the training ground, malky consistently referred to him as one for the future and again today cooper says he's raw, needs a lot of coaching etc, most people can see that he's not ready for the premiership, not his fault it's down to the previous manager for spending so much on a future prospect rather than bringing in somebody who could do the business from the start in august.
Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:41 pm
cityone wrote:Blue_Always wrote:cityone wrote:Everything in that article re-affirms to me how ridiculous the signing of cornelius was, "he's raw, just a boy, he needs a lot of coaching etc", it's cringe worthy, what the hell was malky doing spending £8 million and £45k a week on someone who is miles away from what we needed at the beginning of the season??? a blind man could see we needed an experienced striker to help keep us up and we get someone who is one for the future (i've no doubt he'll become a great player somewhere) no wonder malky was sacked. Even the biggest of tan haters must see why he was furious about this signing??? put it this way, how would you feel if it was YOUR money?????
Where did you see him play to judge how far off he is
Only in the friendlies and the short game time he has been given since his injury, but i go by what the manager (malky) and his back room staff keep saying about the lad, after all, they see him on a day to day basis at the training ground, malky consistently referred to him as one for the future and again today cooper says he's raw, needs a lot of coaching etc, most people can see that he's not ready for the premiership, not his fault it's down to the previous manager for spending so much on a future prospect rather than bringing in somebody who could do the business from the start in august.
Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:48 pm
Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:50 pm
Blue_Always wrote:cityone wrote:Blue_Always wrote:cityone wrote:Everything in that article re-affirms to me how ridiculous the signing of cornelius was, "he's raw, just a boy, he needs a lot of coaching etc", it's cringe worthy, what the hell was malky doing spending £8 million and £45k a week on someone who is miles away from what we needed at the beginning of the season??? a blind man could see we needed an experienced striker to help keep us up and we get someone who is one for the future (i've no doubt he'll become a great player somewhere) no wonder malky was sacked. Even the biggest of tan haters must see why he was furious about this signing??? put it this way, how would you feel if it was YOUR money?????
Where did you see him play to judge how far off he is
Only in the friendlies and the short game time he has been given since his injury, but i go by what the manager (malky) and his back room staff keep saying about the lad, after all, they see him on a day to day basis at the training ground, malky consistently referred to him as one for the future and again today cooper says he's raw, needs a lot of coaching etc, most people can see that he's not ready for the premiership, not his fault it's down to the previous manager for spending so much on a future prospect rather than bringing in somebody who could do the business from the start in august.
Malky maybe correct in that he is one for the future, that doesn't mean he can't cut it in the premiere league. How can most people see he is not ready,most people haven't seen enough to judge.
Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:51 pm
Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:58 pm
cityone wrote:Blue_Always wrote:cityone wrote:Blue_Always wrote:cityone wrote:Everything in that article re-affirms to me how ridiculous the signing of cornelius was, "he's raw, just a boy, he needs a lot of coaching etc", it's cringe worthy, what the hell was malky doing spending £8 million and £45k a week on someone who is miles away from what we needed at the beginning of the season??? a blind man could see we needed an experienced striker to help keep us up and we get someone who is one for the future (i've no doubt he'll become a great player somewhere) no wonder malky was sacked. Even the biggest of tan haters must see why he was furious about this signing??? put it this way, how would you feel if it was YOUR money?????
Where did you see him play to judge how far off he is
Only in the friendlies and the short game time he has been given since his injury, but i go by what the manager (malky) and his back room staff keep saying about the lad, after all, they see him on a day to day basis at the training ground, malky consistently referred to him as one for the future and again today cooper says he's raw, needs a lot of coaching etc, most people can see that he's not ready for the premiership, not his fault it's down to the previous manager for spending so much on a future prospect rather than bringing in somebody who could do the business from the start in august.
Malky maybe correct in that he is one for the future, that doesn't mean he can't cut it in the premiere league. How can most people see he is not ready,most people haven't seen enough to judge.
I'll repeat what i've already said, the manager and back room staff don't think he's ready is that not enough to go by??? but you're missing the main point of all this, from February last season (in the championship) it was quite obvious that we needed to spend big in the summer on a striker that could get us 10-12 goals in the premiership, malky went out and spent £8 million + 45k a week wages on a 20 year old who is "one for the future". (malkys words)
Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:02 pm
Mario Polotelli wrote:You got to laugh at people who say why didnt Tan step in and put the block on the Cornelius signing.
The same people who would go bananas if he would get involved in football decisions.
You could just imagine the outcry on here if it was said Tan stopped Malky signing someone he wanted to as Tan didnt think he was a good player.
Double standards? Not arrrf.
The Wanyama and Montero deals were completely different as things had been agreed then the clubs / agents started pissing us around.
Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:11 pm
Blue_Always wrote:cityone wrote:Blue_Always wrote:cityone wrote:Blue_Always wrote:cityone wrote:Everything in that article re-affirms to me how ridiculous the signing of cornelius was, "he's raw, just a boy, he needs a lot of coaching etc", it's cringe worthy, what the hell was malky doing spending £8 million and £45k a week on someone who is miles away from what we needed at the beginning of the season??? a blind man could see we needed an experienced striker to help keep us up and we get someone who is one for the future (i've no doubt he'll become a great player somewhere) no wonder malky was sacked. Even the biggest of tan haters must see why he was furious about this signing??? put it this way, how would you feel if it was YOUR money?????
Where did you see him play to judge how far off he is
Only in the friendlies and the short game time he has been given since his injury, but i go by what the manager (malky) and his back room staff keep saying about the lad, after all, they see him on a day to day basis at the training ground, malky consistently referred to him as one for the future and again today cooper says he's raw, needs a lot of coaching etc, most people can see that he's not ready for the premiership, not his fault it's down to the previous manager for spending so much on a future prospect rather than bringing in somebody who could do the business from the start in august.
Malky maybe correct in that he is one for the future, that doesn't mean he can't cut it in the premiere league. How can most people see he is not ready,most people haven't seen enough to judge.
I'll repeat what i've already said, the manager and back room staff don't think he's ready is that not enough to go by??? but you're missing the main point of all this, from February last season (in the championship) it was quite obvious that we needed to spend big in the summer on a striker that could get us 10-12 goals in the premiership, malky went out and spent £8 million + 45k a week wages on a 20 year old who is "one for the future". (malkys words)
I'm pretty sure the backroom staff are refering to his injury, when they say he isn't ready. Saying 'One for the future' doesn't preclude him from getting 10 gaols in one season. Many players have been premiereship quality at 20 while moving on to an even bigger future. you can be quality and still have an even better future no?
Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:13 pm
Blue_Always wrote:Mario Polotelli wrote:You got to laugh at people who say why didnt Tan step in and put the block on the Cornelius signing.
The same people who would go bananas if he would get involved in football decisions.
You could just imagine the outcry on here if it was said Tan stopped Malky signing someone he wanted to as Tan didnt think he was a good player.
Double standards? Not arrrf.
The Wanyama and Montero deals were completely different as things had been agreed then the clubs / agents started pissing us around.
If Tan thought it was too much money why sanction the signing?
Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:25 pm
cityone wrote:Blue_Always wrote:cityone wrote:Blue_Always wrote:cityone wrote:Blue_Always wrote:cityone wrote:Everything in that article re-affirms to me how ridiculous the signing of cornelius was, "he's raw, just a boy, he needs a lot of coaching etc", it's cringe worthy, what the hell was malky doing spending £8 million and £45k a week on someone who is miles away from what we needed at the beginning of the season??? a blind man could see we needed an experienced striker to help keep us up and we get someone who is one for the future (i've no doubt he'll become a great player somewhere) no wonder malky was sacked. Even the biggest of tan haters must see why he was furious about this signing??? put it this way, how would you feel if it was YOUR money?????
Where did you see him play to judge how far off he is
Only in the friendlies and the short game time he has been given since his injury, but i go by what the manager (malky) and his back room staff keep saying about the lad, after all, they see him on a day to day basis at the training ground, malky consistently referred to him as one for the future and again today cooper says he's raw, needs a lot of coaching etc, most people can see that he's not ready for the premiership, not his fault it's down to the previous manager for spending so much on a future prospect rather than bringing in somebody who could do the business from the start in august.
Malky maybe correct in that he is one for the future, that doesn't mean he can't cut it in the premiere league. How can most people see he is not ready,most people haven't seen enough to judge.
I'll repeat what i've already said, the manager and back room staff don't think he's ready is that not enough to go by??? but you're missing the main point of all this, from February last season (in the championship) it was quite obvious that we needed to spend big in the summer on a striker that could get us 10-12 goals in the premiership, malky went out and spent £8 million + 45k a week wages on a 20 year old who is "one for the future". (malkys words)
I'm pretty sure the backroom staff are refering to his injury, when they say he isn't ready. Saying 'One for the future' doesn't preclude him from getting 10 gaols in one season. Many players have been premiereship quality at 20 while moving on to an even bigger future. you can be quality and still have an even better future no?
Have you read the article from kevin cooper???? he says of cornelius......he is raw, he's still a boy who needs a lot of coaching, a lot of work, i'm not blaming cornelius i'm sure he'll eventually make it, i'm blaming the previous manager for not bringing in a tried and trusted goal scorer.
Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:33 pm
Blue_Always wrote:cityone wrote:Blue_Always wrote:cityone wrote:Blue_Always wrote:cityone wrote:Blue_Always wrote:cityone wrote:Everything in that article re-affirms to me how ridiculous the signing of cornelius was, "he's raw, just a boy, he needs a lot of coaching etc", it's cringe worthy, what the hell was malky doing spending £8 million and £45k a week on someone who is miles away from what we needed at the beginning of the season??? a blind man could see we needed an experienced striker to help keep us up and we get someone who is one for the future (i've no doubt he'll become a great player somewhere) no wonder malky was sacked. Even the biggest of tan haters must see why he was furious about this signing??? put it this way, how would you feel if it was YOUR money?????
Where did you see him play to judge how far off he is
Only in the friendlies and the short game time he has been given since his injury, but i go by what the manager (malky) and his back room staff keep saying about the lad, after all, they see him on a day to day basis at the training ground, malky consistently referred to him as one for the future and again today cooper says he's raw, needs a lot of coaching etc, most people can see that he's not ready for the premiership, not his fault it's down to the previous manager for spending so much on a future prospect rather than bringing in somebody who could do the business from the start in august.
Malky maybe correct in that he is one for the future, that doesn't mean he can't cut it in the premiere league. How can most people see he is not ready,most people haven't seen enough to judge.
I'll repeat what i've already said, the manager and back room staff don't think he's ready is that not enough to go by??? but you're missing the main point of all this, from February last season (in the championship) it was quite obvious that we needed to spend big in the summer on a striker that could get us 10-12 goals in the premiership, malky went out and spent £8 million + 45k a week wages on a 20 year old who is "one for the future". (malkys words)
I'm pretty sure the backroom staff are refering to his injury, when they say he isn't ready. Saying 'One for the future' doesn't preclude him from getting 10 gaols in one season. Many players have been premiereship quality at 20 while moving on to an even bigger future. you can be quality and still have an even better future no?
Have you read the article from kevin cooper???? he says of cornelius......he is raw, he's still a boy who needs a lot of coaching, a lot of work, i'm not blaming cornelius i'm sure he'll eventually make it, i'm blaming the previous manager for not bringing in a tried and trusted goal scorer.
Who is keith cooper? And how muchof Cornelius has he seen? How many league titles has cooper won?
Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:36 pm
Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:47 pm
Mario Polotelli wrote:Blue_Always wrote:Mario Polotelli wrote:You got to laugh at people who say why didnt Tan step in and put the block on the Cornelius signing.
The same people who would go bananas if he would get involved in football decisions.
You could just imagine the outcry on here if it was said Tan stopped Malky signing someone he wanted to as Tan didnt think he was a good player.
Double standards? Not arrrf.
The Wanyama and Montero deals were completely different as things had been agreed then the clubs / agents started pissing us around.
If Tan thought it was too much money why sanction the signing?
How do we know Tan personally sanctioned it?
He had given Malky / Moody a budget to work to as they seen fit.
And even if he did sanction it, at that point he is going on the say so of his recruitment team. You know, the ones with the football knowledge.
Its become glaringly obvious since then that this kid is not worth the package we have laid out.
Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:55 pm
Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:03 pm
Blue_Always wrote:cityone wrote:Blue_Always wrote:cityone wrote:Blue_Always wrote:cityone wrote:Blue_Always wrote:cityone wrote:Everything in that article re-affirms to me how ridiculous the signing of cornelius was, "he's raw, just a boy, he needs a lot of coaching etc", it's cringe worthy, what the hell was malky doing spending £8 million and £45k a week on someone who is miles away from what we needed at the beginning of the season??? a blind man could see we needed an experienced striker to help keep us up and we get someone who is one for the future (i've no doubt he'll become a great player somewhere) no wonder malky was sacked. Even the biggest of tan haters must see why he was furious about this signing??? put it this way, how would you feel if it was YOUR money?????
Where did you see him play to judge how far off he is
Only in the friendlies and the short game time he has been given since his injury, but i go by what the manager (malky) and his back room staff keep saying about the lad, after all, they see him on a day to day basis at the training ground, malky consistently referred to him as one for the future and again today cooper says he's raw, needs a lot of coaching etc, most people can see that he's not ready for the premiership, not his fault it's down to the previous manager for spending so much on a future prospect rather than bringing in somebody who could do the business from the start in august.
Malky maybe correct in that he is one for the future, that doesn't mean he can't cut it in the premiere league. How can most people see he is not ready,most people haven't seen enough to judge.
I'll repeat what i've already said, the manager and back room staff don't think he's ready is that not enough to go by??? but you're missing the main point of all this, from February last season (in the championship) it was quite obvious that we needed to spend big in the summer on a striker that could get us 10-12 goals in the premiership, malky went out and spent £8 million + 45k a week wages on a 20 year old who is "one for the future". (malkys words)
I'm pretty sure the backroom staff are refering to his injury, when they say he isn't ready. Saying 'One for the future' doesn't preclude him from getting 10 gaols in one season. Many players have been premiereship quality at 20 while moving on to an even bigger future. you can be quality and still have an even better future no?
Have you read the article from kevin cooper???? he says of cornelius......he is raw, he's still a boy who needs a lot of coaching, a lot of work, i'm not blaming cornelius i'm sure he'll eventually make it, i'm blaming the previous manager for not bringing in a tried and trusted goal scorer.
Who is keith cooper? And how muchof Cornelius has he seen? How many league titles has cooper won?
Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:47 pm
Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:54 pm
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:cityone wrote:Blue_Always wrote:cityone wrote:Everything in that article re-affirms to me how ridiculous the signing of cornelius was, "he's raw, just a boy, he needs a lot of coaching etc", it's cringe worthy, what the hell was malky doing spending £8 million and £45k a week on someone who is miles away from what we needed at the beginning of the season??? a blind man could see we needed an experienced striker to help keep us up and we get someone who is one for the future (i've no doubt he'll become a great player somewhere) no wonder malky was sacked. Even the biggest of tan haters must see why he was furious about this signing??? put it this way, how would you feel if it was YOUR money?????
Where did you see him play to judge how far off he is
Only in the friendlies and the short game time he has been given since his injury, but i go by what the manager (malky) and his back room staff keep saying about the lad, after all, they see him on a day to day basis at the training ground, malky consistently referred to him as one for the future and again today cooper says he's raw, needs a lot of coaching etc, most people can see that he's not ready for the premiership, not his fault it's down to the previous manager for spending so much on a future prospect rather than bringing in somebody who could do the business from the start in august.
I believe Cornelius was signed to be the main man and score our goals. If he was one for the future, he wouldn't have been given the number 9 shirt in my opinion.
Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:04 pm
Mario Polotelli wrote:Tans sanctioned a budget. Its not his fault it was wasted.
Do you think Richard Branson personally oversees how evey single penny is spent in his organisation?
Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:39 pm
Mario Polotelli wrote:You got to laugh at people who say why didnt Tan step in and put the block on the Cornelius signing.
The same people who would go bananas if he would get involved in football decisions.
You could just imagine the outcry on here if it was said Tan stopped Malky signing someone he wanted to as Tan didnt think he was a good player.
Double standards? Not arrrf.
The Wanyama and Montero deals were completely different as things had been agreed then the clubs / agents started pissing us around.
Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:31 pm
Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:33 pm
Mario Polotelli wrote:Tans sanctioned a budget. Its not his fault it was wasted.
Do you think Richard Branson personally oversees how evey single penny is spent in his organisation?
Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:35 pm
steve davies wrote:Mario Polotelli wrote:You got to laugh at people who say why didnt Tan step in and put the block on the Cornelius signing.
The same people who would go bananas if he would get involved in football decisions.
You could just imagine the outcry on here if it was said Tan stopped Malky signing someone he wanted to as Tan didnt think he was a good player.
Double standards? Not arrrf.
The Wanyama and Montero deals were completely different as things had been agreed then the clubs / agents started pissing us around.
correct chris
the extra 2 million for wanyama was for the agent celtic did not benefit from the extra money
Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:38 pm
Blue_Always wrote:steve davies wrote:Mario Polotelli wrote:You got to laugh at people who say why didnt Tan step in and put the block on the Cornelius signing.
The same people who would go bananas if he would get involved in football decisions.
You could just imagine the outcry on here if it was said Tan stopped Malky signing someone he wanted to as Tan didnt think he was a good player.
Double standards? Not arrrf.
The Wanyama and Montero deals were completely different as things had been agreed then the clubs / agents started pissing us around.
correct chris
the extra 2 million for wanyama was for the agent celtic did not benefit from the extra money
We still don't know who pulled out, Tans men or Malky. Either way Malky would front the media and bring news of the clubs decision topull out, this doesn't mean it was his decision.
Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:40 pm
Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:48 pm
CM_Saunders wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:cityone wrote:Blue_Always wrote:cityone wrote:Everything in that article re-affirms to me how ridiculous the signing of cornelius was, "he's raw, just a boy, he needs a lot of coaching etc", it's cringe worthy, what the hell was malky doing spending £8 million and £45k a week on someone who is miles away from what we needed at the beginning of the season??? a blind man could see we needed an experienced striker to help keep us up and we get someone who is one for the future (i've no doubt he'll become a great player somewhere) no wonder malky was sacked. Even the biggest of tan haters must see why he was furious about this signing??? put it this way, how would you feel if it was YOUR money?????
Where did you see him play to judge how far off he is
Only in the friendlies and the short game time he has been given since his injury, but i go by what the manager (malky) and his back room staff keep saying about the lad, after all, they see him on a day to day basis at the training ground, malky consistently referred to him as one for the future and again today cooper says he's raw, needs a lot of coaching etc, most people can see that he's not ready for the premiership, not his fault it's down to the previous manager for spending so much on a future prospect rather than bringing in somebody who could do the business from the start in august.
I believe Cornelius was signed to be the main man and score our goals. If he was one for the future, he wouldn't have been given the number 9 shirt in my opinion.
Exactly. But when he got here it became pretty obvious he was nowhere near the finished article, and Malky tried to cover his back by starting all the 'one for the future' stuff. He obviously wasn't scouted thoroughly, which I guess was Moody's department.
Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:54 pm
Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:05 pm
soulofthesea wrote:Blue_Always wrote:steve davies wrote:Mario Polotelli wrote:You got to laugh at people who say why didnt Tan step in and put the block on the Cornelius signing.
The same people who would go bananas if he would get involved in football decisions.
You could just imagine the outcry on here if it was said Tan stopped Malky signing someone he wanted to as Tan didnt think he was a good player.
Double standards? Not arrrf.
The Wanyama and Montero deals were completely different as things had been agreed then the clubs / agents started pissing us around.
correct chris
the extra 2 million for wanyama was for the agent celtic did not benefit from the extra money
We still don't know who pulled out, Tans men or Malky. Either way Malky would front the media and bring news of the clubs decision topull out, this doesn't mean it was his decision.
the point really is not who pulled the plug..........it was over a price hike.....not to do with ability......
Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:52 pm