BELLAMY last off the training pitch again

An example of a good pro, would be Paul Scholes. I love Bellars, but you could hardly call him a model pro.

You posted the story as a fact and previous misdemeanours don't make this one true!

Where?

Is this the true pro that refused to play for Malky because he wasnt named on the bench

So where was this statement of fact? I just see a question

Your question was whether Bellamy was a true pro and you followed it up by stating that he refused to play for Malky!

Whether you intended to post it that way is another matter, but even Swansealad would have to argue with you!

Got to go to work, feel free to argue with yourself!

Your question was whether Bellamy was a true pro and you followed it up by stating that he refused to play for Malky!

Whether you intended to post it that way is another matter, but even Swansealad would have to argue with you!

Got to go to work, feel free to argue with yourself!

No i didnt, stop lying.

An example of a good pro, would be Paul Scholes. I love Bellars, but you could hardly call him a model pro.

Is the correct answer.

A true pro staying behind to practice his free kicks, and he looked sharp in training

I thought we weren't allowed to watch training ? is it ok for us to go watch them ?

An example of a good pro, would be Paul Scholes. I love Bellars, but you could hardly call him a model pro.

Don't know where all this model and good pro have come from, all I said was a true pro for staying behind after the rest had gone to practice free kicks, this thread is like a Chinese whisper

A true pro staying behind to practice his free kicks, and he looked sharp in training

I thought we weren't allowed to watch training ? is it ok for us to go watch them ?

Think that is over the vale, nobody stopped me today and quite a few school kid watching towards the end, and Bells had photos with them when he finished

An example of a good pro, would be Paul Scholes. I love Bellars, but you could hardly call him a model pro.

Don't know where all this model and good pro have come from, all I said was a true pro for staying behind after the rest had gone to practice free kicks, this thread is like a Chinese whisper

So you posted to confirm he is paid by the club? Or that he was a "good" pro?

If its the first then what the hell?!

If its the second, then thats exactly why you got the responses you did.

Is this the true pro that refused to play for Malky because he wasnt named on the bench

You do realise that story may not be true, the same as the one where Malky is attributed with saying that he wouldn't ever play Bellamy again?

The other question that hasn't been answered either, is that if Bellamy refused to play for Malky, why did he reportedly turn down the chance to take over as manager, which would obviously brought forward the end of Malky's reign, when he was asked to replace him, even if it had been temporarily?

who ever did ask him applied the same assumption as you.
but not getting on with some one,, and looking like your pushing them out the door,are miles apart

An example of a good pro, would be Paul Scholes. I love Bellars, but you could hardly call him a model pro.

Is the correct answer.

That wasn't the question. He said he was a true pro for staying behind and practicing, not for what 'alledgedly' happened with malky. Gone slightly off topic there.

That wasn't the question. He said he was a true pro for staying behind and practicing, not for what 'alledgedly' happened with malky. Gone slightly off topic there.

Rubbish.

What does a true pro mean then? The literal meaning of that is that he gets paid, we know that and im sure that wasnt the point.

The accepted term of "true pro" is model pro, which of course he isnt - regardless of his alleged bust up with Malky.

Is this the true pro that refused to play for Malky because he wasnt named on the bench

Why do people keep harping on about "hearsay" and take every word posted on forums as truth. Malky even stated on City Iplayer that this was not true, I cant remember the reasons for him not being on subs bench but Im sure it'll still be on the iplayer archives to clarify it.


BTW, love the Castro name and pic "Capitalism is using its money; we socialists throw it away". One of my favourite Fidel quotes, simple but apt.

Likewise I cant believe how people take what managers and players say as gospel when they clearly would say such things. Didnt Malky say his relationship with Tan was good too?


Respect that but the only people who know the truth are those that was on the bus and until someone actually come out and says its true then it remains speculation does it not.
I mean, what do you expect these people to say

Agreed on the quote.

That wasn't the question. He said he was a true pro for staying behind and practicing, not for what 'alledgedly' happened with malky. Gone slightly off topic there.

Rubbish.

What does a true pro mean then? The literal meaning of that is that he gets paid, we know that and im sure that wasnt the point.

The accepted term of "true pro" is model pro, which of course he isnt - regardless of his alleged bust up with Malky.

The poster said he was a true pro for staying behind and practising, that's all there was to it. Nothing else needs to be added or insinuated as there's nothing more to say. Simple as that really. He didn't mention model pro in any of what he said. Slight twisting of words to imply something that wasn't said.

An example of a good pro, would be Paul Scholes. I love Bellars, but you could hardly call him a model pro.

Don't know where all this model and good pro have come from, all I said was a true pro for staying behind after the rest had gone to practice free kicks, this thread is like a Chinese whisper

So you posted to confirm he is paid by the club? Or that he was a "good" pro?

If its the first then what the hell?!

If its the second, then thats exactly why you got the responses you did.

Why the 1st you one I never said anything about pay, I have asked for proof for what you said still waiting all you were posting is hear say no more

Last edited by Arrow on Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:29 pm, edited 1 time in total.

If the argument was a "true pro", the. Surely every player is a true pro, as they all get paid to play.

If the argument was a "true pro", the. Surely every player is a true pro, as they all get paid to play.

Not really as we all know, some players are just happy to turn up and pick up the wages and not put the effort in at the training ground. That's the implication the poster was getting at.

If the argument was a "true pro", the. Surely every player is a true pro, as they all get paid to play.

Bas I just said true pro for staying behind for practicing no more no less, maybe it's the way I said but some others posting on this thread got other agendas

If the argument was a "true pro", the. Surely every player is a true pro, as they all get paid to play.

Not really as we all know, some players are just happy to turn up and pick up the wages and not put the effort in at the training ground. That's the implication the poster was getting at.

Exactly that's all I stated, lots of other agendas on this thread bit sad really

No agenda apart from stating the obvious,

He is not a model pro. Well done for practicing his free kicks though.

No agenda apart from stating the obvious,

He is not a model pro. Well done for practicing his free kicks though.

How many times, I never called him a model pro READ What's in front of you

No agenda apart from stating the obvious,

He is not a model pro. Well done for practicing his free kicks though.

How many times, I never called him a model pro READ What's in front of you

Model pro - true pro - same things.

Ignore Trigger.. His reading skills are as useless as his mathematical skills, evidently.

What's the difference between a true pro and a model pro then?

No agenda apart from stating the obvious,

He is not a model pro. Well done for practicing his free kicks though.

How many times, I never called him a model pro READ What's in front of you

Model pro - true pro - same things.

No you are wrong it's not the same but you keep saying that I said model pro where I didn't end of

No you are wrong it's not the same but you keep saying that I said model pro where I didn't end of

What's the difference between a true pro and a model pro then, Arrow?

It is the same thing.

With his practice he's going to be the pro who bangs in the winner against the jacks next month.

Well for all the fallouts throughout Bellamy's career, remember this man set up a football academy in Sierra Leone out of his own pocket.

He's just a bit of a gobsh1te now and again!

We all have our good and bad sides but with Bellers the good far outweighs the bad.

If I may offer my own humble opinion about definitions, rather than an arrogant narcissistic opinion.
The definition of a professional sportsman or woman is one who receives payment for their sporting prowess.
However, we all know that within team sports, some players receive greater remuneration than others due to their skill levels and the contributions they make to the success of the team.
I would say that a professional sportsmen who because of their dedication to developing their skills and maintains high levels of fitness make contributions to their teams that mean their remuneration is value for money with regard to the team's success is a top professional.
Other professionals who make this significant contribution over a long period of time and on no occasion bring themselves or their employers into disrepute with regard to their behaviour would be classed as model professionals.
Interesting how we would classify Scholes and Giggs? Or even that magnificent talent Zidane?
Zidane, top or model professional? Very churlish if you decide he is neither, but just my opinion.

What's the difference between a true pro and a model pro then?

I would say a model professional has more of an impact of his/ her peers, more of an example of how to be as well as being the best at what you do and putting in the effort. In football, it's how you act outside the field of work as you are an example to millions. A true pro is just how hard you work on the training ground to be the best you can be on the pitch, putting in the hours practising etc, like the original poster said really.