ITS TRUE BELLAMY DID FALL OUT WITH MALKY

I had it on very good authority today that Bellars had indeed fallen out with Malky. It happend at Crystal Palace, the rumours at the time of Bellars refusing to get off the coach were partly true. Bellars was supposed to be on the bench that day and was 100% fit. However Declan John, was suffering from mild food poisoning and told Malky that he didnt think he would make it through the full 90 minutes. Malky decided to stick Connolly on the bench instead of Bellars. Bellars blew his top, over Malkys negativity.
Bellars refused to travel back with the team on the coach and went back with Dahlman in his car. That then leads to Bellars refusing to play again for Malky

I had it on very good authority today (someone who knows someone who’s mate pissed in the same bucket as George Woods when they were three) that the truth behind the Crystal palace game was this………….. Malky had promised Bellars a Toblerone on the way up in the coach. Because Malky had been busy that morning writing Christmas cards to the Tan family, he had left it a little late catching the park and ride to Cardiff City stadium. In the rush Malky had put his wife’s nighty and dressing gown on, popped in the corner shop and bought a Whole Nut Cadburys chocolate bar by mistake. When boarding the bus Bellars jaw hit the floor when the promised triangular chocolate had been substituted by some inferior British confection, but to top it all he was totally shocked that Malky could turn up in blue sequined nighty and green frilly knickers Malky Craig cried “HOW MANY TIMES HAVE I GOT TO TELL YOU, YOU SWEATY SOCK, BLUE AND GREEN SHOULD NOT BE SEEN UNLES THERES SOMETHING IN BETWEEN,
The rest is history, Bellars phoned Tan half time ( from the bus ) told him about the green knickers, two days later Malky was out of work and exchanging green knickers in Debenhams

or maybe its true

Don't think the car back with Dalaman is true, but he 100 percent had a fall out MM.

Think this was quite a big reason why he got sacked .

Think the main reason for the fall out was MM general negativity, which apparently stemmed from the defeat at Villa away.

Watch Malky get the blame for this. Bellamy throwing his toys out the pram again

If it is true, id not want Bellamy playing for us again. He wasn't manager, coach or any member of the back room with an input. He wasn't even club/first team captain.

Malky was his boss and should accept a decision that he made. His job was to play when he is told to play and realise Malkys decision is final.

Doesnt matter what Bellamy thought was best, it wasnt his head on the chopping block, and it is Malky that had to live by his choices.

i hated Malkys negative football.............but yes as long as he was the manager,it was his call, cant argue with your points at all.......

I was hit or miss on Malky, i dont get sentiment to managers, its a fickle business, if we have better in ole then im more than happy to back the sacking of malky. But whilst he was boss, the players cant decide what to obey or not obey, and i would back him 100%

I was a Malky supporter but if this is true then that is ridiculously over cautious.

You have to attack the teams around you.

Don't think the car back with Dalaman is true, but he 100 percent had a fall out MM.

Think this was quite a big reason why he got sacked .

Think the main reason for the fall out was MM general negativity, which apparently stemmed from the defeat at Villa away.

For what it's worth Bellamy definitely showed his disapproval to the fans doing the "Malky chant" in the warm up before the Villa game.

I agree that a manager has to be strong and be his own man, but surely he also has to have the ability to be wise in dealing with the different personalities that make up not only a football squad, but also the staff and executives working at the club.
I think Malky succeeded in lots of things but perhaps he didn't overcome the challenge of effectively winning over other strong-minded individuals like Bellamy? Perhaps his only response was to put players out in the cold if they voiced dissent? That would answer the Brayford conundrum. It's all well and good being tough and showing your authority, but sometimes good leadership is about understanding the other individual and finding a way to make it work.

Love Bellamy as a local boy , but he would cause trouble in an empty house, thinks he is the manager, you only have to hear him or watch him on the pitch to see that he's trying to do everything. including demanding the ball when in silly positions. OGS will be over ruled by Bellamy to the detriment of dressing room unity.

Good on bellers. Can't blame him for kicking off over negative game plan time again

Bellamy also was fed up with playing left back just in front of the left sided defender guarding the six yard box and furthermore didn't appreciate Malky's treatment of some of the staff down the club. Malky was a very, very hard character to judge. His press face was not the face seen by pretty much anyone at the club.

It was fairly obvious bellamy was never injured.. Should this all be true then bellars can do one. How much does he get paid to act like a spoilt baby? I can empathise with the whole palace thing, but vouching to never play for malky again.. how much influence did this have over tan's desicoin to fire malky? Maybe I'm reading too deepy into this, but these f*cking premadonnas on RIDICULOUS wages pulling stunts like this really irks me.

Or what effect did this negativity have on the players at the club? People supposedly look up to bellars, it wouldn't surpirse me at all if this incident had a big impact on the mindset of our players.

Whether this is true or not, the manager picks the team. End of story. It's the manager's job that's on the line if results are bad.

We were all rightly indignant when Tan was interfering with Malky's decisions. Same should apply to any player as well.

Whether this is true or not, the manager picks the team. End of story. It's the manager's job that's on the line if results are bad.

We were all rightly indignant when Tan was interfering with Malky's decisions. Same should apply to any player as well.

completely agree with every word

Bellamy also was fed up with playing left back just in front of the left sided defender guarding the six yard box and furthermore didn't appreciate Malky's treatment of some of the staff down the club. Malky was a very, very hard character to judge. His press face was not the face seen by pretty much anyone at the club.

I know for a fact that this is untrue.

In all honesty I dont blame bellamy. First year we had no bellamy and couldnt do any better than watford.. the next year malky soends a bomb and the difference was bellamy malky took the whole limelight hes not even that good a coach bellamys inspiration on the pitch give us the attacking killer instinct for the best part of the promotion campaign

Without him we spend 30 million and cant even create chances away under malky. Dog shit turn up

Finished 11 points and 5 places above Watford in 2011/12. That's just a bit better than them, right?

Ironically only 10 points and 2 places above same team in 2012/13.

I agree that a manager has to be strong and be his own man, but surely he also has to have the ability to be wise in dealing with the different personalities that make up not only a football squad, but also the staff and executives working at the club.
I think Malky succeeded in lots of things but perhaps he didn't overcome the challenge of effectively winning over other strong-minded individuals like Bellamy? Perhaps his only response was to put players out in the cold if they voiced dissent? That would answer the Brayford conundrum. It's all well and good being tough and showing your authority, but sometimes good leadership is about understanding the other individual and finding a way to make it work.

Great post mate.

Malky's dossier as its put, or type of player, was one of the reason that many players didn't come. No players with a bad attitude or bad image ever were bought under Malky other than Bellamy who had to sign because of the hype and he was a local boy who was too good to turn down. Had Malky turned it down after all the links etc. there would have been uproar and questions raised about Malky's management.

Thats often why we struggled when attacking - all the best creative, flair, etc. attacking players - most of them have arrogant traits or selfish traits - Zaha, Taarabt, etc. - we didn't take risks or try to man manage this type of player but I think Ole will take risks like this and it may very well pay off.

Players are people and need man management. You cant just put 11 robots out there who do as you say and perfectly execute your system because players have emotions, personal goals and expectations etc. All the best players have undesirable or arrogant traits.

Ronaldo has them. Zidane had them. Hazard has them. Van Persie has them. Suarez has them. Ibra has them. Ronaldo of Brazil had them.

You need these types of players to make a difference. Im not saying they need to be wrecking balls like Barton but players with attitude and it often stems from self drive etc.

Arsenal - Wilshere
Everton - Mirallas
Liverpool - Suarez
Chelsea - Hazard
United - Rooney

Just a few examples. All players who love harassing refs, getting under their skin, trying it on - they're driven to win and do good and they exceed expectations for egotistical reasons and the fame but this also often has a positive affect on the team. We had a bunch of robots under Malky mostly who were just sent out to do a structured job in a system he built.

In all honesty I dont blame bellamry. First year we had no bellamy and couldnt do any better than watford.. the next year malky soends a bomb and the difference was bellamy malky took the whole limelight hes not even that good a coach bellamys inspiration on the pitch give us the attacking killer instinct for the best part of the promotion campaign

Without him we spend 30 million and cant even create chances away under malky. Dog shit turn up

Finished 11 points and 5 places above Watford in 2011/12. That's just a bit better than them, right?

Ironically only 10 points and 2 places above same team in 2012/13.

Bellamy drove the team forward and hard to say otherwise.
Same team or same club? Big difference considering Watford had 10 loanees or how many it was.

I agree that a manager has to be strong and be his own man, but surely he also has to have the ability to be wise in dealing with the different personalities that make up not only a football squad, but also the staff and executives working at the club.
I think Malky succeeded in lots of things but perhaps he didn't overcome the challenge of effectively winning over other strong-minded individuals like Bellamy? Perhaps his only response was to put players out in the cold if they voiced dissent? That would answer the Brayford conundrum. It's all well and good being tough and showing your authority, but sometimes good leadership is about understanding the other individual and finding a way to make it work.

Great post mate.

Malky's dossier as its put, or type of player, was one of the reason that many players didn't come. No players with a bad attitude or bad image ever were bought under Malky other than Bellamy who had to sign because of the hype and he was a local boy who was too good to turn down. Had Malky turned it down after all the links etc. there would have been uproar and questions raised about Malky's management.

Thats often why we struggled when attacking - all the best creative, flair, etc. attacking players - most of them have arrogant traits or selfish traits - Zaha, Taarabt, etc. - we didn't take risks or try to man manage this type of player but I think Ole will take risks like this and it may very well pay off.

Players are people and need man management. You cant just put 11 robots out there who do as you say and perfectly execute your system because players have emotions, personal goals and expectations etc. All the best players have undesirable or arrogant traits.

Ronaldo has them. Zidane had them. Hazard has them. Van Persie has them. Suarez has them. Ibra has them. Ronaldo of Brazil had them.

You need these types of players to make a difference. Im not saying they need to be wrecking balls like Barton but players with attitude and it often stems from self drive etc.

Arsenal - Wilshere
Everton - Mirallas
Liverpool - Suarez
Chelsea - Hazard
United - Rooney

Just a few examples. All players who love harassing refs, getting under their skin, trying it on - they're driven to win and do good and they exceed expectations for egotistical reasons and the fame but this also often has a positive affect on the team. We had a bunch of robots under Malky mostly who were just sent out to do a structured job in a system he built.

Dead right and well said JB39.

At their best these kind of players can change the mood of the team during a game, get the crowd going and bring a spark of genius - just what we need before the ship sinks too deep!

More ridiculous lies to discredit Malky.

In all honesty I dont blame bellamry. First year we had no bellamy and couldnt do any better than watford.. the next year malky soends a bomb and the difference was bellamy malky took the whole limelight hes not even that good a coach bellamys inspiration on the pitch give us the attacking killer instinct for the best part of the promotion campaign

Without him we spend 30 million and cant even create chances away under malky. Dog shit turn up

Finished 11 points and 5 places above Watford in 2011/12. That's just a bit better than them, right?

Ironically only 10 points and 2 places above same team in 2012/13.

Bellamy drove the team forward and hard to say otherwise.
Same team or same club? Big difference considering Watford had 10 loanees or how many it was.

yes they had the loans

but i never understood how he got the job in the first place..his watford finished poorly..we finished very strong...
last 21 games in 2010/11 season.

malky /watford w 4 d7 L10 PTS 19 RELEGATION FORM = BETTER JOB
DJ /Cardiff w10 d7 L4 PTS 37 = SACK

More ridiculous lies to discredit Malky.

Malkys love child hmmmmm

Bellamy also was fed up with playing left back just in front of the left sided defender guarding the six yard box and furthermore didn't appreciate Malky's treatment of some of the staff down the club. Malky was a very, very hard character to judge. His press face was not the face seen by pretty much anyone at the club.

I know for a fact that this is untrue.

Which bit is untrue?

I agree that a manager has to be strong and be his own man, but surely he also has to have the ability to be wise in dealing with the different personalities that make up not only a football squad, but also the staff and executives working at the club.
I think Malky succeeded in lots of things but perhaps he didn't overcome the challenge of effectively winning over other strong-minded individuals like Bellamy? Perhaps his only response was to put players out in the cold if they voiced dissent? That would answer the Brayford conundrum. It's all well and good being tough and showing your authority, but sometimes good leadership is about understanding the other individual and finding a way to make it work.

Great post mate.

Malky's dossier as its put, or type of player, was one of the reason that many players didn't come. No players with a bad attitude or bad image ever were bought under Malky other than Bellamy who had to sign because of the hype and he was a local boy who was too good to turn down. Had Malky turned it down after all the links etc. there would have been uproar and questions raised about Malky's management.

Thats often why we struggled when attacking - all the best creative, flair, etc. attacking players - most of them have arrogant traits or selfish traits - Zaha, Taarabt, etc. - we didn't take risks or try to man manage this type of player but I think Ole will take risks like this and it may very well pay off.

Players are people and need man management. You cant just put 11 robots out there who do as you say and perfectly execute your system because players have emotions, personal goals and expectations etc. All the best players have undesirable or arrogant traits.

Ronaldo has them. Zidane had them. Hazard has them. Van Persie has them. Suarez has them. Ibra has them. Ronaldo of Brazil had them.

You need these types of players to make a difference. Im not saying they need to be wrecking balls like Barton but players with attitude and it often stems from self drive etc.

Arsenal - Wilshere
Everton - Mirallas
Liverpool - Suarez
Chelsea - Hazard
United - Rooney

Just a few examples. All players who love harassing refs, getting under their skin, trying it on - they're driven to win and do good and they exceed expectations for egotistical reasons and the fame but this also often has a positive affect on the team. We had a bunch of robots under Malky mostly who were just sent out to do a structured job in a system he built.

Great post. Stuart McCall said recently that he gives his players freedom as the idea of football is to beat your opponents so you need to create chances. Under Malky the players had no freedom so no wonder we didn't create anything.

More ridiculous lies to discredit Malky.

Malkys love child hmmmmm

No just someone who respects him as a man and a manager and will carry on defending him against what I see as vindictive lies to discredit him.

More ridiculous lies to discredit Malky.

Malkys love child hmmmmm

No just someone who respects him as a man and a manager and will carry on defending him against what I see as vindictive lies to discredit him.

Why do you love malky so much?

More ridiculous lies to discredit Malky.

Malkys love child hmmmmm

No just someone who respects him as a man and a manager and will carry on defending him against what I see as vindictive lies to discredit him.

Out of curiosity,why don't you ever join in threads about football and only anything about the politics of ccfc ?

Don't you like threads about whats happening on the pitch ?

More ridiculous lies to discredit Malky.

Malkys love child hmmmmm

No just someone who respects him as a man and a manager and will carry on defending him against what I see as vindictive lies to discredit him.

Out of curiosity,why don't you ever join in threads about football and only anything about the politics of ccfc ?

Don't you like threads about whats happening on the pitch ?

I will discuss what I want to discuss and id say the unlawful sacking of Malky Mackay, our manager that brought us up from the doldrums is a footballing matter.

I will discuss what I want to discuss and id say the unlawful sacking of Malky Mackay, our manager that brought us up from the doldrums is a footballing matter.

Do you have any evidence to back up such a claim?

More ridiculous lies to discredit Malky.

Malkys love child hmmmmm

No just someone who respects him as a man and a manager and will carry on defending him against what I see as vindictive lies to discredit him.

Out of curiosity,why don't you ever join in threads about football and only anything about the politics of ccfc ?

Don't you like threads about whats happening on the pitch ?

I will discuss what I want to discuss and id say the unlawful sacking of Malky Mackay, our manager that brought us up from the doldrums is a footballing matter.

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