Sun Jan 19, 2014 10:37 pm
Aramore wrote:Castro wrote:Aramore wrote:Castro wrote:
Your season ticket money was included in your accounts for last year. The only thing that we can count is the walk up, but that will probably just cover the costs of policing, staff etc.
Yes you do have whatever the Malaysian Government pay for ONE year. But I dont think its £6m is it?
Your figure is wild.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... ff-6107698
"The Minister revealed the deal was worth £7.35m in total,"
From the link:-
International accountant Keith Morgan, a director of Mazars as well as of Cardiff City Supporters’ Trust, said: “To be honest, when I saw the figures for sponsorship quoted in the Malaysian Parliament, they didn’t appear to tally with figures that have already been announced in connection with Cardiff City. A sum of £500,000 has been mentioned, which actually seems a bit low. Maybe the sums mentioned in Malaysia are to be spread over more than one season.
That's just speculation from a fan.
http://www.insideworldfootball.com/prem ... parliament
Malaysian taxpayer will stump up £3 million for the 2013/2014 Premier League season sponsorship of the Welsh club
Sun Jan 19, 2014 10:47 pm
Castro wrote:Aramore wrote:Castro wrote:Aramore wrote:Castro wrote:
Your season ticket money was included in your accounts for last year. The only thing that we can count is the walk up, but that will probably just cover the costs of policing, staff etc.
Yes you do have whatever the Malaysian Government pay for ONE year. But I dont think its £6m is it?
Your figure is wild.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... ff-6107698
"The Minister revealed the deal was worth £7.35m in total,"
From the link:-
International accountant Keith Morgan, a director of Mazars as well as of Cardiff City Supporters’ Trust, said: “To be honest, when I saw the figures for sponsorship quoted in the Malaysian Parliament, they didn’t appear to tally with figures that have already been announced in connection with Cardiff City. A sum of £500,000 has been mentioned, which actually seems a bit low. Maybe the sums mentioned in Malaysia are to be spread over more than one season.
That's just speculation from a fan.
http://www.insideworldfootball.com/prem ... parliament
Malaysian taxpayer will stump up £3 million for the 2013/2014 Premier League season sponsorship of the Welsh club
Thats not just "speculation from a fan"![]()
Thats since62 on here, Keith Morgan. He is an international accountant and has even worked for the club.
I highly doubt it is £7.2m for one season. And even if it is, for arguments sake, that doesn't even cover 50% of the expansion at the reported £15m.
So then you spent £60m on players which is covered by the £63m TV money.
Now where is the wages? Its about £40m per season.
Anything you cannot cover by income - you owe Tan and it gets added to the debt.
Sun Jan 19, 2014 10:49 pm
Aramore wrote:
It is speculation from a fan, he's an international accountant yes but I doubt Tan's given him any special access to our private accounts.
I don't have anything to say on the rest, I just wanted to correct your factual errors
Sun Jan 19, 2014 10:50 pm
Castro wrote:Aramore wrote:Castro wrote:Aramore wrote:Castro wrote:Aramore wrote:Castro wrote:
Your season ticket money was included in your accounts for last year. The only thing that we can count is the walk up, but that will probably just cover the costs of policing, staff etc.
Yes you do have whatever the Malaysian Government pay for ONE year. But I dont think its £6m is it?
Your figure is wild.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... ff-6107698
"The Minister revealed the deal was worth £7.35m in total,"
From the link:-
International accountant Keith Morgan, a director of Mazars as well as of Cardiff City Supporters’ Trust, said: “To be honest, when I saw the figures for sponsorship quoted in the Malaysian Parliament, they didn’t appear to tally with figures that have already been announced in connection with Cardiff City. A sum of £500,000 has been mentioned, which actually seems a bit low. Maybe the sums mentioned in Malaysia are to be spread over more than one season.
That's just speculation from a fan.
http://www.insideworldfootball.com/prem ... parliament
Malaysian taxpayer will stump up £3 million for the 2013/2014 Premier League season sponsorship of the Welsh club
Thats not just "speculation from a fan"![]()
Thats since62 on here, Keith Morgan. He is an international accountant and has even worked for the club.
I highly doubt it is £7.2m for one season. And even if it is, for arguments sake, that doesn't even cover 50% of the expansion at the reported £15m.
So then you spent £60m on players which is covered by the £63m TV money.
Now where is the wages? Its about £40m per season.
Anything you cannot cover by income - you owe Tan and it gets added to the debt.
It is speculation from a fan, he's an international accountant yes but I doubt Tan's given him any special access to our private accounts.
I don't have anything to say on the rest, I just wanted to correct your factual errors
He doesnt need special access. The accounts are for public viewing.![]()
Not sure what you mean?
Sun Jan 19, 2014 10:53 pm
Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:50 am
Castro wrote:Then we will see when the next set of account are released.
Im skeptical, not that it will make much difference to whats being discussed here though. You are heading for another heavy annual loss, let alone a £30m profit
Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:52 am
wez1927 wrote:Castro wrote:Then we will see when the next set of account are released.
Im skeptical, not that it will make much difference to whats being discussed here though. You are heading for another heavy annual loss, let alone a £30m profit
You have been proved wrong countless times on this thread ,your figures.don't add up ,its about time you gave up and try and concentrate what Swansea are going to do when you get relagated this season
Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:55 am
Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:57 am
Castro wrote:wez1927 wrote:Castro wrote:Then we will see when the next set of account are released.
Im skeptical, not that it will make much difference to whats being discussed here though. You are heading for another heavy annual loss, let alone a £30m profit
You have been proved wrong countless times on this thread ,your figures.don't add up ,its about time you gave up and try and concentrate what Swansea are going to do when you get relagated this season
What? Have you read the thread?![]()
Maybe you cam explain then..... How can you turn a profit when you spent £60m on players, £15m on an expansion, £40m on wages plus other financial commitments.....
Income is £63m from the premier league so you have another £60 million odd to make up.
Im all ears
Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:58 am
TownhillMagic wrote:After seeing RoathMagic's poor maths skills in the other thread, I'd ignore his nonsense in this topic.
Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:59 am
TownhillMagic wrote:After seeing RoathMagic's poor maths skills in the other thread, I'd ignore his nonsense in this topic.
Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:59 am
Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:00 am
wez1927 wrote:Castro wrote:wez1927 wrote:Castro wrote:Then we will see when the next set of account are released.
Im skeptical, not that it will make much difference to whats being discussed here though. You are heading for another heavy annual loss, let alone a £30m profit
You have been proved wrong countless times on this thread ,your figures.don't add up ,its about time you gave up and try and concentrate what Swansea are going to do when you get relagated this season
What? Have you read the thread?![]()
Maybe you cam explain then..... How can you turn a profit when you spent £60m on players, £15m on an expansion, £40m on wages plus other financial commitments.....
Income is £63m from the premier league so you have another £60 million odd to make up.
Im all ears
60 million on players another made up quote by yourself ,it could reach 50 million with add ons over the next 5 years but European transfers you don't pay alltbe money up front so the next cash figure couldonly be a fraction of the 35 million quoted
Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:00 am
TownhillMagic wrote:I wouldn't be asking you to add it all up for me. Your lack of maths skills has been proven.
Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:00 am
Castro wrote:TownhillMagic wrote:After seeing RoathMagic's poor maths skills in the other thread, I'd ignore his nonsense in this topic.
Martyn, your failure to grasp concepts continues to amaze![]()
Enlighten us all. Your spends are £120m.... How do you turn a profit?
Shoot
Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:02 am
wez1927 wrote:Debt to equity and its all profit bet you.jacks are shitting it lol
Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:02 am
Castro wrote:wez1927 wrote:Castro wrote:wez1927 wrote:Castro wrote:Then we will see when the next set of account are released.
Im skeptical, not that it will make much difference to whats being discussed here though. You are heading for another heavy annual loss, let alone a £30m profit
You have been proved wrong countless times on this thread ,your figures.don't add up ,its about time you gave up and try and concentrate what Swansea are going to do when you get relagated this season
What? Have you read the thread?![]()
Maybe you cam explain then..... How can you turn a profit when you spent £60m on players, £15m on an expansion, £40m on wages plus other financial commitments.....
Income is £63m from the premier league so you have another £60 million odd to make up.
Im all ears
60 million on players another made up quote by yourself ,it could reach 50 million with add ons over the next 5 years but European transfers you don't pay alltbe money up front so the next cash figure couldonly be a fraction of the 35 million quoted
Made up?
Vincent Tan said you had a budget of £35m and spent £50m... You have since spent £5m in January not including signing on fees and agent fees etc.
Whether younpay the money up front or not is irrelevant - you HAVE to pay it. Which means you owe Tan.
So again, explain.
Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:04 am
Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:06 am
wez1927 wrote:
There you got again making things up again 25 million was the transfer budget tan said in the press lol
Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:07 am
Castro wrote:You do the math![]()
Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:08 am
TownhillMagic wrote:Castro wrote:You do the math![]()
Good idea Trigger, because we all know you can't do it.
Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:10 am
Barry Chuckle wrote:When did we spend 5 million this month?
Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:12 am
paulh_85 wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:When did we spend 5 million this month?
on the two norweigens wasnt it?
Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:12 am
Barry Chuckle wrote:paulh_85 wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:When did we spend 5 million this month?
on the two norweigens wasnt it?
Certainly haven't seen any figures bandied around.. Roathie must just be guessing.
Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:13 am
Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:14 am
Barry Chuckle wrote:Where are these figures from? Have you got a link? Or has Roathie?
Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:14 am
Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:17 am
TownhillMagic wrote:What a surprise. RoathMagic is guessing again.
Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:19 am
paulh_85 wrote:
just stuff on here, nothing offical.... is it really important to you barry?maybe it was 4m, maybe it was 6... not really significant
Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:19 am
paulh_85 wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:Where are these figures from? Have you got a link? Or has Roathie?
just stuff on here, nothing offical.... is it really important to you barry?maybe it was 4m, maybe it was 6... not really significant