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Re: ' Malky Mackay '

Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:04 pm

I used him as an example :o now pass me the tablets im done. :wave:

Re: ' Malky Mackay '

Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:37 pm

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Malky should have gone after the Palace defeat. And quite frankly, it was only the negative press surrounding Tan which probably kept him in his job beyond that point. Any other club would have ditched him - that's modern day football.

I defended him after the Norwich game and such, but I stood there in the stand at Stoke and couldn't believe what I was seeing. He'd actually succeeded in eliminating any sort of attacking creativity from the team. And then he bloody fist pumped us like he'd just got a point at Old Trafford. That was the final straw for me.

Yes, he got us up. Does that mean he deserved the right to take us back down? No. No player or manager is bigger than the club, and the clubs main goal should always be to stay in this league.

Negative newspaper reports about us seem to no longer be "exclusives", and don't even seem to be on the money anymore. Convenient that has happened now that Malky and his some of his coaching team are gone.

There's not a single person out there who can make be believe that Malky DIDN'T believe his own hype by the end of his reign. Worked under difficult conditions at the end, sure, but I'm not entirely convinced that he didn't play a big part in creating those. And quite frankly, had a section of the fans not been singing "don't sack Mackay" just to piss off Tan (and that was the only reason, let's be fair), the situation would never have deteriorated how it did and Tan would have simply made the change sooner.

Also, great example about Chelsea winning the champions league with negative tactics...what happened to their manager a few months later? ;)

Re: ' Malky Mackay '

Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:43 pm

After 25 million was mentioned Emperor tan could have sacrificed malky and the championship trophy to lord Satan at half time and our fans would not have battered an eyelid.

Re: ' Malky Mackay '

Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:49 pm

KWest wrote:I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Malky should have gone after the Palace defeat. And quite frankly, it was only the negative press surrounding Tan which probably kept him in his job beyond that point. Any other club would have ditched him - that's modern day football.

I defended him after the Norwich game and such, but I stood there in the stand at Stoke and couldn't believe what I was seeing. He'd actually succeeded in eliminating any sort of attacking creativity from the team. And then he bloody fist pumped us like he'd just got a point at Old Trafford. That was the final straw for me.

Yes, he got us up. Does that mean he deserved the right to take us back down? No. No player or manager is bigger than the club, and the clubs main goal should always be to stay in this league.

Negative newspaper reports about us seem to no longer be "exclusives", and don't even seem to be on the money anymore. Convenient that has happened now that Malky and his some of his coaching team are gone.

There's not a single person out there who can make be believe that Malky DIDN'T believe his own hype by the end of his reign. Worked under difficult conditions at the end, sure, but I'm not entirely convinced that he didn't play a big part in creating those. And quite frankly, had a section of the fans not been singing "don't sack Mackay" just to piss off Tan (and that was the only reason, let's be fair), the situation would never have deteriorated how it did and Tan would have simply made the change sooner.

Also, great example about Chelsea winning the champions league with negative tactics...what happened to their manager a few months later? ;)


enjoyed that post, pretty much sums it up for me :thumbup:

Re: ' Malky Mackay '

Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:57 pm

I liked Malky, but he should have gone earlier than he did, it cost us over the last few games.

The championship is a struggle and a fight so I could tolerate the pretty poor football. In the prem I didnt expect it to be much different but it came to a point where we werent even trying to win games.

We might have only lost 2 in a row but we werent winning enough games, far to many draws not scoring apart from set peices. You could say in his last 8 games we only picked up 5 points out of a possible 24 available. If anyone honestly thinks we werent heading for the drop zone under Malky then I question there honesty.

For whatever reason I never really connected with Malky as manager, for me it was all to PR and fake, to much media driven. But then I liked Dave Jones interviews, bit more off the cuff and saying completely the wrong things but doing it honestly.

In the end Malky had to go, I do feel for OGS though with a near impossible Janaury now and a lot of work to drive out the defensive nature of our players. Lets hope we can go on a run in January.

Re: ' Malky Mackay '

Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:14 pm

both Malky and Moody have said many times that the small squad was in many ways a good thing,a blank canvas, this is true at all levels,.. the players he was left were descent.......4 of them played at Newcastle...

Re: ' Malky Mackay '

Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:44 pm

soulofthesea wrote:both Malky and Moody have said many times that the small squad was in many ways a good thing,a blank canvas, this is true at all levels,.. the players he was left were descent.......4 of them played at Newcastle...


Of course, people forget DJ had the same problem except he had even less quality with the players he was left with.

Re: ' Malky Mackay '

Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:51 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
soulofthesea wrote:both Malky and Moody have said many times that the small squad was in many ways a good thing,a blank canvas, this is true at all levels,.. the players he was left were descent.......4 of them played at Newcastle...


Of course, people forget DJ had the same problem except he had even less quality with the players he was left with.


shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh........DJ is the devil.