Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:52 am
JB39. wrote:Yet another thread ruined by Barry Chuckles.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:57 am
Barry Chuckle wrote:JB39. wrote:Yet another thread ruined by Barry Chuckles.
How? I'm debating the topic with another poster... There's only one person who has come into this thread and not debated it, just targeted another poster - that's you.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:58 am
Barry Chuckle wrote:Why wouldn't I take the word of a Hull City supporter, who is actually there?He's far more likely to give me a true story on the fan base than you are, unless you attend Hull games regularly or post on their forums etc regularly?
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I called it sustained protest as they have continually protested - whereas we have had one meaningful protest in 18 months - even then, that was mixed in with a bit of Don't Sack Mackay.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:02 pm
Overthemoon wrote:I wouldn't take the word of one Hull City supporter on Twitter, for the same reason that you and I don't take the word of the people who we don't know on this message board!
I agree about the one meaningful protest, except to say that I believe that the protest was more to do with the way that Malky was being treated, than anything to do with our club's identity, as Bluebirds Unite merely saw it as an opportunity to try and boost their failing campaign!
Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:04 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:AJ1927 wrote:Pontypool_Bluebird wrote:well done hull for sticking up for your club. well done majority of CCFC fans for sticking up for nothing
What a pathetic statement.
It's true though.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:11 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:Overthemoon wrote:I wouldn't take the word of one Hull City supporter on Twitter, for the same reason that you and I don't take the word of the people who we don't know on this message board!
I agree about the one meaningful protest, except to say that I believe that the protest was more to do with the way that Malky was being treated, than anything to do with our club's identity, as Bluebirds Unite merely saw it as an opportunity to try and boost their failing campaign!
[color=#0040BF]I'd rather take the word of a Hull City supporter, than someone who has no link whatsoever with Hull!
Barry Chuckle wrote:Overthemoon wrote:I wouldn't take the word of one Hull City supporter on Twitter, for the same reason that you and I don't take the word of the people who we don't know on this message board!
I agree about the one meaningful protest, except to say that I believe that the protest was more to do with the way that Malky was being treated, than anything to do with our club's identity, as Bluebirds Unite merely saw it as an opportunity to try and boost their failing campaign!
Though I've also looked at Hull message boards and there aren't many who are pro-name change on there.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:14 pm
Overthemoon wrote:So you'd take the word of one Hull fan on Twitter that there's no infighting at Hull, but you've read their message boards and deduced that there aren't many people who are pro the name change, which indicates that there are some who are for it, or at least apathetic towards it, which is infighting in my book!
Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:19 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:Overthemoon wrote:So you'd take the word of one Hull fan on Twitter that there's no infighting at Hull, but you've read their message boards and deduced that there aren't many people who are pro the name change, which indicates that there are some who are for it, or at least apathetic towards it, which is infighting in my book!
No it isn't.3 comments on the internet amongst a fan base of 20k does not mean it's infighting!
Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:23 pm
Overthemoon wrote:So how many people post on their message boards and do you really think that the majority of people are going to post on their boards, that they don't really give a monkey's about their name change?
Our re-branding is incidentally far worse IMO!
Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:25 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:Overthemoon wrote:So how many people post on their message boards and do you really think that the majority of people are going to post on their boards, that they don't really give a monkey's about their name change?
Our re-branding is incidentally far worse IMO!
I don't know! But I'd definitely not call 3 positive posts as "infighting".
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It is in my opinion too, which makes the apathy from the majority of the fan base even worse.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:28 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:AJ1927 wrote:Pontypool_Bluebird wrote:well done hull for sticking up for your club. well done majority of CCFC fans for sticking up for nothing
What a pathetic statement.
It's true though.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:28 pm
Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:29 pm
Overthemoon wrote:How many posts does it take then, especially considering you took the word of one Hull fan on Twitter, that there was none?
Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:31 pm
Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:34 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:Overthemoon wrote:How many posts does it take then, especially considering you took the word of one Hull fan on Twitter, that there was none?
Dear meI'd say it was 1% of what I saw - which is an extremely small number. Hardly infighting. This was backed up to the fan I speak to regularly, unless you happen to suggest he should have the ear of EVERY SINGLE FAN?!
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Cardiff City's fan base is infighting. Hull's is not. For you to claim otherwise, you'd need to back this up with some sort of evidence.
Until then, I'm far more confident in a supporter who is at games & protests, than a Cardiff fan who has no idea on a Cardiff message board.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:41 pm
Overthemoon wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:Overthemoon wrote:How many posts does it take then, especially considering you took the word of one Hull fan on Twitter, that there was none?
Dear meI'd say it was 1% of what I saw - which is an extremely small number. Hardly infighting. This was backed up to the fan I speak to regularly, unless you happen to suggest he should have the ear of EVERY SINGLE FAN?!
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Cardiff City's fan base is infighting. Hull's is not. For you to claim otherwise, you'd need to back this up with some sort of evidence.
Until then, I'm far more confident in a supporter who is at games & protests, than a Cardiff fan who has no idea on a Cardiff message board.
Would you class 2% as infighting then?![]()
Still can't see why your bigging Hull's fans up and knocking our own and infighting is infighting, whatever percentage you choose to put on it!
Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:48 pm
Overthemoon wrote:Would you class 2% as infighting then?![]()
Still can't see why your bigging Hull's fans up and knocking our own and infighting is infighting, whatever percentage you choose to put on it!
Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:51 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:Overthemoon wrote:Would you class 2% as infighting then?![]()
Still can't see why your bigging Hull's fans up and knocking our own and infighting is infighting, whatever percentage you choose to put on it!
No. There will always be differences in opinion.. Just like there is in the Whittingham topic on here, for example. That doesn't mean that there is "infighting" at the club about Whittingham.
I'm bogging up Hull fans because they as a whole, have done far more than Cardiff supporters. They've also been noticed by the FA, who have said that they will talk to the fans before making a choice about allowing the name change.
What have our fans done? One protest, that wasn't even solely focused on the rebrand.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:01 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:Overthemoon wrote:Would you class 2% as infighting then?![]()
Still can't see why your bigging Hull's fans up and knocking our own and infighting is infighting, whatever percentage you choose to put on it!
No. There will always be differences in opinion.. Just like there is in the Whittingham topic on here, for example. That doesn't mean that there is "infighting" at the club about Whittingham.
I'm bogging up Hull fans because they as a whole, have done far more than Cardiff supporters. They've also been noticed by the FA, who have said that they will talk to the fans before making a choice about allowing the name change.
What have our fans done? One protest, that wasn't even solely focused on the rebrand.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:03 pm
Halifax93 wrote:I like Chuckles as a poster very much and agree with him on the rebrand but irony isn't his strongest suit - I think he might be American
Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:36 pm
AJ1927 wrote:Pontypool_Bluebird wrote:well done hull for sticking up for your club. well done majority of CCFC fans for sticking up for nothing
What a pathetic statement.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:01 pm
Pontypool_Bluebird wrote:AJ1927 wrote:Pontypool_Bluebird wrote:well done hull for sticking up for your club. well done majority of CCFC fans for sticking up for nothing
What a pathetic statement.
because u don't like the truth.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:22 pm
Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:23 pm
Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:08 pm
AJ1927 wrote:The thread is about Hull City being Renamed Hull Tigers.
And A message from Hull supporters to inform the FA that they see themselves as City not Tigers.
Our situation is completely different.
We have had our identity altered.
There's is about to be changed completely.
We are Cardiff City,from the city of Cardiff.
They are Hull City from the City of Hull.
Tigers and Bluebirds are nicknames.
Colours of kits can and do change on a regular basis.
Both owners are wrong in doing what they are doing.
But you are comparing the fans.....Why?
Neither asked for what is happening.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:12 pm
lostcityboy wrote:AJ1927 wrote:The thread is about Hull City being Renamed Hull Tigers.
And A message from Hull supporters to inform the FA that they see themselves as City not Tigers.
Our situation is completely different.
We have had our identity altered.
There's is about to be changed completely.
We are Cardiff City,from the city of Cardiff.
They are Hull City from the City of Hull.
Tigers and Bluebirds are nicknames.
Colours of kits can and do change on a regular basis.
Both owners are wrong in doing what they are doing.
But you are comparing the fans.....Why?
Neither asked for what is happening.
They are hull city from Kingston upon hull,no such place as hull city
Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:31 pm
Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:33 pm
Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:40 pm
AJ1927 wrote:If this gets approved by the FA it will spread.
Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:44 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:AJ1927 wrote:If this gets approved by the FA it will spread.
Definitely agree. I can imagine Vinny is looking very carefully at the FA outcome.