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Re: It's all in the Name

Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:52 am

JB39. wrote:Yet another thread ruined by Barry Chuckles.


How? I'm debating the topic with another poster... There's only one person who has come into this thread and not debated it, just targeted another poster - that's you.

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Re: It's all in the Name

Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:57 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
JB39. wrote:Yet another thread ruined by Barry Chuckles.


How? I'm debating the topic with another poster... There's only one person who has come into this thread and not debated it, just targeted another poster - that's you.

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I tried reading it but you had already ruined it. Shame but usual and expected when it comes to you.

Re: It's all in the Name

Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:58 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:Why wouldn't I take the word of a Hull City supporter, who is actually there? :? He's far more likely to give me a true story on the fan base than you are, unless you attend Hull games regularly or post on their forums etc regularly? :old:

I called it sustained protest as they have continually protested - whereas we have had one meaningful protest in 18 months - even then, that was mixed in with a bit of Don't Sack Mackay.

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I wouldn't take the word of one Hull City supporter on Twitter, for the same reason that you and I don't take the word of the people who we don't know on this message board!

I agree about the one meaningful protest, except to say that I believe that the protest was more to do with the way that Malky was being treated, than anything to do with our club's identity, as Bluebirds Unite merely saw it as an opportunity to try and boost their failing campaign!

Re: It's all in the Name

Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:02 pm

Overthemoon wrote:I wouldn't take the word of one Hull City supporter on Twitter, for the same reason that you and I don't take the word of the people who we don't know on this message board!

I agree about the one meaningful protest, except to say that I believe that the protest was more to do with the way that Malky was being treated, than anything to do with our club's identity, as Bluebirds Unite merely saw it as an opportunity to try and boost their failing campaign!


I'd rather take the word of a Hull City supporter, than someone who has no link whatsoever with Hull! Though I've also looked at Hull message boards and there aren't many who are pro-name change on there.

It was a mixture. Some were there for Malky, but the majority I spoke to there were about getting our blue back - thats what I was there for. Whilst I wanted Malky to stay, by the time of the protest - it was already over for me & was a matter of when and not if Malky was going to be sacked.

I agree, Bluebirds Unite can't claim anything from that Boxing Day protest - try as they might. :laughing6:

Re: It's all in the Name

Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:04 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
AJ1927 wrote:
Pontypool_Bluebird wrote:well done hull for sticking up for your club. well done majority of CCFC fans for sticking up for nothing




What a pathetic statement.


It's true though. :?



Complete different situations though.

Re: It's all in the Name

Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:11 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:I wouldn't take the word of one Hull City supporter on Twitter, for the same reason that you and I don't take the word of the people who we don't know on this message board!

I agree about the one meaningful protest, except to say that I believe that the protest was more to do with the way that Malky was being treated, than anything to do with our club's identity, as Bluebirds Unite merely saw it as an opportunity to try and boost their failing campaign!


[color=#0040BF]I'd rather take the word of a Hull City supporter, than someone who has no link whatsoever with Hull!

Hardly rocket science, but I'd like to gauge a few more people's views, before I took the word of one person, who I didn't know!
Barry Chuckle wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:I wouldn't take the word of one Hull City supporter on Twitter, for the same reason that you and I don't take the word of the people who we don't know on this message board!

I agree about the one meaningful protest, except to say that I believe that the protest was more to do with the way that Malky was being treated, than anything to do with our club's identity, as Bluebirds Unite merely saw it as an opportunity to try and boost their failing campaign!


Though I've also looked at Hull message boards and there aren't many who are pro-name change on there.

So you'd take the word of one Hull fan on Twitter that there's no infighting at Hull, but you've read their message boards and deduced that there aren't many people who are pro the name change, which indicates that there are some who are for it, or at least apathetic towards it, which is infighting in my book! :laughing5:

Re: It's all in the Name

Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:14 pm

Overthemoon wrote:So you'd take the word of one Hull fan on Twitter that there's no infighting at Hull, but you've read their message boards and deduced that there aren't many people who are pro the name change, which indicates that there are some who are for it, or at least apathetic towards it, which is infighting in my book! :laughing5:


No it isn't. :lol: 3 comments on the internet amongst a fan base of 20k does not mean it's infighting! :old:

Re: It's all in the Name

Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:19 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:So you'd take the word of one Hull fan on Twitter that there's no infighting at Hull, but you've read their message boards and deduced that there aren't many people who are pro the name change, which indicates that there are some who are for it, or at least apathetic towards it, which is infighting in my book! :laughing5:


No it isn't. :lol: 3 comments on the internet amongst a fan base of 20k does not mean it's infighting! :old:

So how many people post on their message boards and do you really think that the majority of people are going to post on their boards, that they don't really give a monkey's about their name change?

Our re-branding is incidentally far worse IMO!

Re: It's all in the Name

Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:23 pm

Overthemoon wrote:So how many people post on their message boards and do you really think that the majority of people are going to post on their boards, that they don't really give a monkey's about their name change?

Our re-branding is incidentally far worse IMO!


:lol: I don't know! But I'd definitely not call 3 positive posts as "infighting". :laughing6:

It is in my opinion too, which makes the apathy from the majority of the fan base even worse.

Re: It's all in the Name

Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:25 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:So how many people post on their message boards and do you really think that the majority of people are going to post on their boards, that they don't really give a monkey's about their name change?

Our re-branding is incidentally far worse IMO!


:lol: I don't know! But I'd definitely not call 3 positive posts as "infighting". :laughing6:

It is in my opinion too, which makes the apathy from the majority of the fan base even worse.

How many posts does it take then, especially considering you took the word of one Hull fan on Twitter, that there was none? :)

Re: It's all in the Name

Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:28 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
AJ1927 wrote:
Pontypool_Bluebird wrote:well done hull for sticking up for your club. well done majority of CCFC fans for sticking up for nothing




What a pathetic statement.


It's true though. :?

Says Barry Chuckle so its probably not true!! :laughing6:

Re: It's all in the Name

Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:28 pm

We have had the badge and the colour of our kit altered.

They are being renamed.

Their situation is far worse in my opinion.

Re: It's all in the Name

Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:29 pm

Overthemoon wrote:How many posts does it take then, especially considering you took the word of one Hull fan on Twitter, that there was none? :)


Dear me :lol: I'd say it was 1% of what I saw - which is an extremely small number. Hardly infighting. This was backed up to the fan I speak to regularly, unless you happen to suggest he should have the ear of EVERY SINGLE FAN?! :laughing5:

Cardiff City's fan base is infighting. Hull's is not. For you to claim otherwise, you'd need to back this up with some sort of evidence.

Until then, I'm far more confident in a supporter who is at games & protests, than a Cardiff fan who has no idea on a Cardiff message board.

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Re: It's all in the Name

Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:31 pm

There has always been infighting amongst out fan base. Long before Vincent appeared.

Re: It's all in the Name

Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:34 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:How many posts does it take then, especially considering you took the word of one Hull fan on Twitter, that there was none? :)


Dear me :lol: I'd say it was 1% of what I saw - which is an extremely small number. Hardly infighting. This was backed up to the fan I speak to regularly, unless you happen to suggest he should have the ear of EVERY SINGLE FAN?! :laughing5:

Cardiff City's fan base is infighting. Hull's is not. For you to claim otherwise, you'd need to back this up with some sort of evidence.

Until then, I'm far more confident in a supporter who is at games & protests, than a Cardiff fan who has no idea on a Cardiff message board.

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Would you class 2% as infighting then? :?

Still can't see why your bigging Hull's fans up and knocking our own and infighting is infighting, whatever percentage you choose to put on it!

Re: It's all in the Name

Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:41 pm

Overthemoon wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:How many posts does it take then, especially considering you took the word of one Hull fan on Twitter, that there was none? :)


Dear me :lol: I'd say it was 1% of what I saw - which is an extremely small number. Hardly infighting. This was backed up to the fan I speak to regularly, unless you happen to suggest he should have the ear of EVERY SINGLE FAN?! :laughing5:

Cardiff City's fan base is infighting. Hull's is not. For you to claim otherwise, you'd need to back this up with some sort of evidence.

Until then, I'm far more confident in a supporter who is at games & protests, than a Cardiff fan who has no idea on a Cardiff message board.

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Would you class 2% as infighting then? :?

Still can't see why your bigging Hull's fans up and knocking our own and infighting is infighting, whatever percentage you choose to put on it!

Dont start talking percentages to Chuckles it confuses him and he will vanish.

Re: It's all in the Name

Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:48 pm

Overthemoon wrote:Would you class 2% as infighting then? :?

Still can't see why your bigging Hull's fans up and knocking our own and infighting is infighting, whatever percentage you choose to put on it!


No. There will always be differences in opinion.. Just like there is in the Whittingham topic on here, for example. That doesn't mean that there is "infighting" at the club about Whittingham.

I'm bogging up Hull fans because they as a whole, have done far more than Cardiff supporters. They've also been noticed by the FA, who have said that they will talk to the fans before making a choice about allowing the name change.

What have our fans done? One protest, that wasn't even solely focused on the rebrand.

Re: It's all in the Name

Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:51 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:Would you class 2% as infighting then? :?

Still can't see why your bigging Hull's fans up and knocking our own and infighting is infighting, whatever percentage you choose to put on it!


No. There will always be differences in opinion.. Just like there is in the Whittingham topic on here, for example. That doesn't mean that there is "infighting" at the club about Whittingham.

I'm bogging up Hull fans because they as a whole, have done far more than Cardiff supporters. They've also been noticed by the FA, who have said that they will talk to the fans before making a choice about allowing the name change.

What have our fans done? One protest, that wasn't even solely focused on the rebrand.

Chuckles you are such a shit stirrer, why do you bother. You were much better when you were grassing people up.

Re: It's all in the Name

Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:01 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:Would you class 2% as infighting then? :?

Still can't see why your bigging Hull's fans up and knocking our own and infighting is infighting, whatever percentage you choose to put on it!


No. There will always be differences in opinion.. Just like there is in the Whittingham topic on here, for example. That doesn't mean that there is "infighting" at the club about Whittingham.

I'm bogging up Hull fans because they as a whole, have done far more than Cardiff supporters. They've also been noticed by the FA, who have said that they will talk to the fans before making a choice about allowing the name change.

What have our fans done? One protest, that wasn't even solely focused on the rebrand.

You're right about differences of opinion, which is why we'll have to disagree about the infighting, which I think will shortly come to a head, as I can't see that Hull fans will be in the majority of wanting their owner out, as opposed to a name change!

I still can't see that Hull fans have done more, or much more than Cardiff fans have and the only reason they've been noticed by the FA, is because their owner has had to apply to the FA for a name change and the fans have contacted them to try and sway their decision. I'd have thought that even our fans, or any other set of fans, would have done that under the same set of circumstances!

Re: It's all in the Name

Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:03 pm

Halifax93 wrote:I like Chuckles as a poster very much and agree with him on the rebrand but irony isn't his strongest suit - I think he might be American


He is a liar and a grass I know that . :thumbup:

Re: It's all in the Name

Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:36 pm

AJ1927 wrote:
Pontypool_Bluebird wrote:well done hull for sticking up for your club. well done majority of CCFC fans for sticking up for nothing




What a pathetic statement.

because u don't like the truth.

Re: It's all in the Name

Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:01 pm

Pontypool_Bluebird wrote:
AJ1927 wrote:
Pontypool_Bluebird wrote:well done hull for sticking up for your club. well done majority of CCFC fans for sticking up for nothing




What a pathetic statement.

because u don't like the truth.




No because it is a pathetic statement.
No truth involved just a small minded assumption based on no substance or facts.

Re: It's all in the Name

Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:22 pm

The thread is about Hull City being Renamed Hull Tigers.

And A message from Hull supporters to inform the FA that they see themselves as City not Tigers.

Our situation is completely different.
We have had our identity altered.
There's is about to be changed completely.

We are Cardiff City,from the city of Cardiff.
They are Hull City from the City of Hull.
Tigers and Bluebirds are nicknames.

Colours of kits can and do change on a regular basis.

Both owners are wrong in doing what they are doing.

But you are comparing the fans.....Why?
Neither asked for what is happening.

Re: It's all in the Name

Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:23 pm

Im passed caring about Hull anyway. Have enough to deal with at our own club without worrying about their issues as well.

Re: It's all in the Name

Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:08 pm

AJ1927 wrote:The thread is about Hull City being Renamed Hull Tigers.

And A message from Hull supporters to inform the FA that they see themselves as City not Tigers.

Our situation is completely different.
We have had our identity altered.
There's is about to be changed completely.

We are Cardiff City,from the city of Cardiff.
They are Hull City from the City of Hull.
Tigers and Bluebirds are nicknames.

Colours of kits can and do change on a regular basis.

Both owners are wrong in doing what they are doing.

But you are comparing the fans.....Why?
Neither asked for what is happening.

They are hull city from Kingston upon hull,no such place as hull city :old:

Re: It's all in the Name

Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:12 pm

lostcityboy wrote:
AJ1927 wrote:The thread is about Hull City being Renamed Hull Tigers.

And A message from Hull supporters to inform the FA that they see themselves as City not Tigers.

Our situation is completely different.
We have had our identity altered.
There's is about to be changed completely.

We are Cardiff City,from the city of Cardiff.
They are Hull City from the City of Hull.
Tigers and Bluebirds are nicknames.

Colours of kits can and do change on a regular basis.

Both owners are wrong in doing what they are doing.

But you are comparing the fans.....Why?
Neither asked for what is happening.

They are hull city from Kingston upon hull,no such place as hull city :old:


:lol:

Kingston upon Hull (often abbreviated to Hull), a city in the East Riding of Yorkshire named after the River Hull :thumbup:

Re: It's all in the Name

Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:31 pm

Chuckles has discussed the topic and given accurate answers about the steps Hull fans are taking to stick up for their club, yet there's idiots like Barnett saying Chuckles is ruining this thread and he's passed caring about Hull! Well I will never be passed caring for Hull because what's happening is a concern for our game as a whole. We've been rebranded, Hull's name is trying to get changed, what will happen next with these out of touch, foreign dictators? We all have to stick up for not just our club or Hull City, all football fans have to unite and stick up for our game as a whole before football gets ruined completely!

Re: It's all in the Name

Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:33 pm

If this gets approved by the FA it will spread.

Re: It's all in the Name

Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:40 pm

AJ1927 wrote:If this gets approved by the FA it will spread.


Definitely agree. I can imagine Vinny is looking very carefully at the FA outcome.

Re: It's all in the Name

Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:44 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
AJ1927 wrote:If this gets approved by the FA it will spread.


Definitely agree. I can imagine Vinny is looking very carefully at the FA outcome.

Knowing the FA they will allow both changes. Bad news though.