" Judge Ole after 12 games, but I have to admit "

Would have won under Malky today?

How? We had umpteen corners and didnt convert thats the only way Malky knew.

We played as well 2nd half as we have all season at home we just didnt get the break.

Dont forget dressing as Santa Claus

The facts are there, we were not ever in the bottom 3.

Annis, look at the table at the end of day one. Cardiff were second bottom, below Arsenal and above Swansea.

Pedantic yes, but the fact is Cardiff have been bottom 3.

But anyway, absolutely no need for panicking. Only six points separate the entire bottom half of the table, so there's PLENTY of football yet. Cardiff were absolutely dreadful in front of goal today, but I thought they were ok everywhere else. Someone to put a killer ball into the box with someone on the end to finish it is all that's stopping Cardiff from climbing the table IMO. If OGS can sort that out before the window closes then I'm still convinced they'll be safe.

They couldn't score in a brothel right now, so it's vital to sort that out...

Yes we lost but tbh we battered west ham but just couldn't score we are desperately needing a descendent striker ,we had 60 % possession and hadloads of shots at goal ,we will be ok in the end

Disagree, no striker could score in a box like that, we either need to focus on counter attacking or getting players to shoot on the edge of the box through a group of players and find the net, like yaya toure

when you say we need strengthening now
are you advocating we add to our debt
or do you believe tan is going to convert his spending into equity so it doesn't matter how much we go into debt
did I see rudy scored again today

Steve, I am not asking for more players,just saying it looks like we need them ASAP, as everyone knows in January if u want to stay up,go up ect u need to strengthen.
Our debt is out of control, only one person to blame Tan and thats a fact.

Debt was there when Tan took over. Remind ne who first started that?

Craig, state the facts, how much in debt before Tan came ? Please answer

We are now if u include the last year about £160 Mill in Debt.

" Judge Ole after 12 games, but I have to admit,today we were awful against a terrible West Ham side "

Personally I believe you can only Judge a manager after 12 games.

But just going on todays performance that was awful,Only one proper save West Ham had to make,We passed really well, but mostly in our own area.
I believe it was a goal by us and the ball did go over the line.

Noone ran his socks of today, Kim Bo looked tired and weak on the ball, Campbell did his best, but we never created enough chances and when we did Whittingham and Co's shots were very poor. Cornelius, not getting any better. I could go through most of the team and personally I thought other than their passing in our half of the pitch, they looked like a relegation team.
Looked like no plan B, but its early days.

For me this match, was a must win game.

With the Manchester games coming up next then the Jacks, were in for a tough couple of months ahead, today we needed to win against a dreadful West Ham Side who played 20 mins with 10 men, cant score goals and beat us 2 nil in our own back yard.

I left that ground like many others so down and fed up, now knowing we are for the first time ever in the Bottom 3 of the Premier League.

We need strengthening now and upfront.

Atmosphere awful.

Great to see so many Fans in BLUE


Dont desert now City fans stay together and fight to stay up.

I thought you knew something about football

West Ham were not terrible.

Kim Bo .... hit the bar and was clearly your best player.

Noone looked a threat wide

No Plan B

He changed it positively 3 times ffs we were on Plan D by the end.

sorry annis but imo the debt is not out of control
dalman has said today that the debt will defo be turned into equity and tan would own 97% to 98% of Cardiff city
surely if you think we need strengthening NOW then you understand to do that will make our debt bigger

when you say we need strengthening now
are you advocating we add to our debt
or do you believe tan is going to convert his spending into equity so it doesn't matter how much we go into debt
did I see rudy scored again today

Steve, I am not asking for more players,just saying it looks like we need them ASAP, as everyone knows in January if u want to stay up,go up ect u need to strengthen.
Our debt is out of control, only one person to blame Tan and thats a fact.

Debt was there when Tan took over. Remind ne who first started that?

Craig, state the facts, how much in debt before Tan came ? Please answer

We are now if u include the last year about £160 Mill in Debt.

Irrelevant Annis. Its only debt when the people we owe it to want it back. Sam screwed us when he left.We we fucked...........

when you say we need strengthening now
are you advocating we add to our debt
or do you believe tan is going to convert his spending into equity so it doesn't matter how much we go into debt
did I see rudy scored again today

Steve, I am not asking for more players,just saying it looks like we need them ASAP, as everyone knows in January if u want to stay up,go up ect u need to strengthen.
Our debt is out of control, only one person to blame Tan and thats a fact.

If VT is prepared to pay the money how can the debt be out of control?
Let's revel in being in the PL and clamour for new players but blame VT for funding it

No Plan B

He changed it positively 3 times ffs we were on Plan D by the end.

polo according to those who went we didnt have plan A even!

when you say we need strengthening now
are you advocating we add to our debt
or do you believe tan is going to convert his spending into equity so it doesn't matter how much we go into debt
did I see rudy scored again today

Steve, I am not asking for more players,just saying it looks like we need them ASAP, as everyone knows in January if u want to stay up,go up ect u need to strengthen.
Our debt is out of control, only one person to blame Tan and thats a fact.

Debt was there when Tan took over. Remind ne who first started that?

Craig, state the facts, how much in debt before Tan came ? Please answer

We are now if u include the last year about £160 Mill in Debt.

Irrelevant Annis. Its only debt when the people we owe it to want it back. Sam screwed us when he left.We we fucked...........

Please still answer, its not irrelevant, we cant keep blaming past chairman, Tan is his own man, totally in control. Answer how much in debt before Tan came ?

OGS started with Malky Mackay's team. He is giving the players already here a chance to prove they are up to the task. He doesn't have many games to judge just how many changes need to be made

" Judge Ole after 12 games, but I have to admit,today we were awful against a terrible West Ham side "

Personally I believe you can only Judge a manager after 12 games.

But just going on todays performance that was awful,Only one proper save West Ham had to make,We passed really well, but mostly in our own area.
I believe it was a goal by us and the ball did go over the line.

Noone ran his socks of today, Kim Bo looked tired and weak on the ball, Campbell did his best, but we never created enough chances and when we did Whittingham and Co's shots were very poor. Cornelius, not getting any better. I could go through most of the team and personally I thought other than their passing in our half of the pitch, they looked like a relegation team.
Looked like no plan B, but its early days.

For me this match, was a must win game.

With the Manchester games coming up next then the Jacks, were in for a tough couple of months ahead, today we needed to win against a dreadful West Ham Side who played 20 mins with 10 men, cant score goals and beat us 2 nil in our own back yard.

I left that ground like many others so down and fed up, now knowing we are for the first time ever in the Bottom 3 of the Premier League.

We need strengthening now and upfront.

Atmosphere awful.

Great to see so many Fans in BLUE


Dont desert now City fans stay together and fight to stay up.

I thought we dominated the game and we made positive subs and changed formation to try and get it back.

Think you're being a little harsh on the team today, we did everything but put the ball in the net.

Say what you like, but Ole got more effort out of Bellamy in 45 minutes than Malky got out of him in one and a half seasons. I can't remember the last time I saw him so determined.

Malky may have got the players working hard for each other, but I'm not convinced the squad liked him very much.

I totally agree Bellamy ran for 45 minutes, but I still would not keep him come May.

No Plan B

He changed it positively 3 times ffs we were on Plan D by the end.

polo according to those who went we didnt have plan A even!

We battered them 2nd half just couldnt get the goal.

1st hapf we were poor.

6pts between 10th and 20th place, so remind yourselves that we are not the only team having bad results/performances, etc.... Its all so close...

We were in the bottom three on the first day of the season, people can hide the fact we weren't but we were nabbing points and out of it due to other teams not capitalising, we played really well in terms of good football today, just not clinical enough, he's been here for 2 weeks and he's already got us playing nice stuff, just need a good striker

The facts are there, we were not ever in the bottom 3.

Now the real fight begins, for team,manager and fans to stick together.

The facts are that Malky took us to the brink and after 1 game your putting all the blame on Ole. Your delusional if you think that football wasn't a lot better than Malky served up and to say Ole didn't have a plan B is quite unbelievable.

Ball didn't cross the line remember there's goal line technology now have a look at premier league Twitter the picture is on there which shows it wasn't a goal

I meant to say the ball did cross the line

when you say we need strengthening now
are you advocating we add to our debt
or do you believe tan is going to convert his spending into equity so it doesn't matter how much we go into debt
did I see rudy scored again today

Steve, I am not asking for more players,just saying it looks like we need them ASAP, as everyone knows in January if u want to stay up,go up ect u need to strengthen.
Our debt is out of control, only one person to blame Tan and thats a fact.

Debt was there when Tan took over. Remind ne who first started that?

Craig, state the facts, how much in debt before Tan came ? Please answer

We are now if u include the last year about £160 Mill in Debt.

Irrelevant Annis. Its only debt when the people we owe it to want it back. Sam screwed us when he left.We we fucked...........

Please still answer, its not irrelevant, we cant keep blaming past chairman, Tan is his own man, totally in control. Answer how much in debt before Tan came ?

How much debt? i know a good figure........15mins from being wound up and because if Sam. How much debt were we in when Sam took over?

" Judge Ole after 12 games, but I have to admit,today we were awful against a terrible West Ham side "

Personally I believe you can only Judge a manager after 12 games.

But just going on todays performance that was awful,Only one proper save West Ham had to make,We passed really well, but mostly in our own area.
I believe it was a goal by us and the ball did go over the line.

Noone ran his socks of today, Kim Bo looked tired and weak on the ball, Campbell did his best, but we never created enough chances and when we did Whittingham and Co's shots were very poor. Cornelius, not getting any better. I could go through most of the team and personally I thought other than their passing in our half of the pitch, they looked like a relegation team.
Looked like no plan B, but its early days.

For me this match, was a must win game.

With the Manchester games coming up next then the Jacks, were in for a tough couple of months ahead, today we needed to win against a dreadful West Ham Side who played 20 mins with 10 men, cant score goals and beat us 2 nil in our own back yard.

I left that ground like many others so down and fed up, now knowing we are for the first time ever in the Bottom 3 of the Premier League.

We need strengthening now and upfront.

Atmosphere awful.

Great to see so many Fans in BLUE


Dont desert now City fans stay together and fight to stay up.

I thought we dominated the game and we made positive subs and changed formation to try and get it back.

Think you're being a little harsh on the team today, we did everything but put the ball in the net.

Paul, we dominated a lot of the game with our passing. I thought the players never stopped running, but their finishing was awful, West Ham are awful, but they won 2 nil with 10 men.

Judge Ole after 12 games

Ball didn't cross the line remember there's goal line technology now have a look at premier league Twitter the picture is on there which shows it wasn't a goal

I meant to say the ball did cross the line

[quote="Forever Blue"]" Judge Ole after 12 games, but I have to admit,today we were awful against a terrible West Ham side "

Personally I believe you can only Judge a manager after 12 games.

But just going on todays performance that was awful,Only one proper save West Ham had to make,We passed really well, but mostly in our own area.
I believe it was a goal by us and the ball did go over the line.

Noone ran his socks of today, Kim Bo looked tired and weak on the ball, Campbell did his best, but we never created enough chances and when we did Whittingham and Co's shots were very poor. Cornelius, not getting any better. I could go through most of the team and personally I thought other than their passing in our half of the pitch, they looked like a relegation team.
Looked like no plan B, but its early days.

For me this match, was a must win game.

With the Manchester games coming up next then the Jacks, were in for a tough couple of months ahead, today we needed to win against a dreadful West Ham Side who played 20 mins with 10 men, cant score goals and beat us 2 nil in our own back yard.

I left that ground like many others so down and fed up, now knowing we are for the first time ever in the Bottom 3 of the Premier League.

We need strengthening now and upfront.

Atmosphere awful.

Great to see so many Fans in BLUE


Dont desert now City fans stay together and fight to stay up. [/quote


I agree we need to give OGS a chance . I remember you saying that we needed to give Malky til Christmas and we did.
We need better players and lets don't forget who's giving us the money !

Most that have criticised Tan will now be hoping that he can finance our chances of staying in the Prem.

No Plan B

He changed it positively 3 times ffs we were on Plan D by the end.

polo according to those who went we didnt have plan A even!

We battered them 2nd half just couldnt get the goal.

1st hapf we were poor.

yes and ole changed it 3 times to try and get goal but obviously fans at game did'nt notice subs!

Ball didn't cross the line remember there's goal line technology now have a look at premier league Twitter the picture is on there which shows it wasn't a goal

I meant to say the ball did cross the line

I thought it did as well

so tan is in control
make your mind up annis

We were in the bottom three on the first day of the season, people can hide the fact we weren't but we were nabbing points and out of it due to other teams not capitalising, we played really well in terms of good football today, just not clinical enough, he's been here for 2 weeks and he's already got us playing nice stuff, just need a good striker

The facts are there, we were not ever in the bottom 3.

Now the real fight begins, for team,manager and fans to stick together.

The facts are that Malky took us to the brink and after 1 game your putting all the blame on Ole. Your delusional if you think that football wasn't a lot better than Malky served up and to say Ole didn't have a plan B is quite unbelievable.

I will only judge Ole after 12 games

Say what you like, but Ole got more effort out of Bellamy in 45 minutes than Malky got out of him in one and a half seasons. I can't remember the last time I saw him so determined.

Malky may have got the players working hard for each other, but I'm not convinced the squad liked him very much.

Fully agree, when we played Sunderland, as soon as we scored the players asked for inspiration by saluting for us to keep them going on, a few players have had the shackles off and been allowed to excel, Bellamy's only good appearance for us over the past 1 and a half seasons was Swansea, today he looked so up for it and I loved it

No Plan B

He changed it positively 3 times ffs we were on Plan D by the end.

polo according to those who went we didnt have plan A even!

We battered them 2nd half just couldnt get the goal.

1st hapf we were poor.

We did control, the second half, but never battered them, how many good saves did their keeper make?

when you say we need strengthening now
are you advocating we add to our debt
or do you believe tan is going to convert his spending into equity so it doesn't matter how much we go into debt
did I see rudy scored again today

Steve, I am not asking for more players,just saying it looks like we need them ASAP, as everyone knows in January if u want to stay up,go up ect u need to strengthen.
Our debt is out of control, only one person to blame Tan and thats a fact.

If VT is prepared to pay the money how can the debt be out of control?
Let's revel in being in the PL and clamour for new players but blame VT for funding it

Because 18months later Tan has not done yet what he said he would do, Debt to equity.

It's times like this when you see the real Cardiff city fans. It's easy supporting a winning side, not so easy when your in the shite. It's been a long time since we have been in a relegation battle,I hope our new fans have got the bottle for it.

Well said Kodak - this will sort the men from the boys!