MEDEL £11m AND OVERWEIGHT

What's that all about? Taken off after an hour as he's puffed out! If we sold him now, we'd be lucky to get £3m for him.

Moody/Mackay were totally tucked up there, terrible business.

At least Eikrem looks a great replacement, and at a fraction of the cost.


Can we have an enquiry into the transfer dealings last summer, it's all too strange.

This is a ridiculous post - OGS made a substitution which tends to happen every game and he brought on a new singing for a short run out

Moody/Mackay made a great signing here - you are a deluded if you think otherwise

Eikrem looks like a great replacement? for who?! Because medal controls our midfield, is a key player for us and will not be losing his place in our first team.

Love how you can say Eikrem looks good after 20 mins game time with a few passes and a shot straight at the keeper - he is just as big a transfer risk as Cornelius as they were both pretty much unknown in the UK but Cornelius was top goal scorer in his league..

An inquiry into what? I will reiterate that your post is ridiculous and i hope you think before you post anything else in the future

Medel is awesome.

Whitts needs to be dropped and I'm sure he will now we've got Eikrem.

No young man. my point is that who they have played for does not indicate how good they are...as was being suggested. John O'shea and Jordi Lopez being case in points, both have winners medals and played for the best clubs in the world.

Medel is average because his performances are average. Whether this will change or not remains to be seen.

No young man. my point is that who they have played for does not indicate how good they are...as was being suggested. John O'shea and Jordi Lopez being case in points, both have winners medals and played for the best clubs in the world.

Medel is average because his performances are average. Whether this will change or not remains to be seen.

Medel is clearly used too, and most effective, playing a passing game. As you know Malky was terrified of players passing the ball about and did his best to make sure they didn't have the ball for more than half a second on average and if possession went over 40% he would fine the squad.

Solksjaer on the other hand showed yesterday that he wants the Cardiff payers to pass the ball about which should benefit Medel's play style. A passing midfield base of Eikrem and Medel should help show his best.

No young man. my point is that who they have played for does not indicate how good they are...as was being suggested. John O'shea and Jordi Lopez being case in points, both have winners medals and played for the best clubs in the world.

Medel is average because his performances are average. Whether this will change or not remains to be seen.

Medel is clearly used too, and most effective, playing a passing game. As you know Malky was terrified of players passing the ball about and did his best to make sure they didn't have the ball for more than half a second on average and if possession went over 40% he would fine the squad.

Solksjaer on the other hand showed yesterday that he wants the Cardiff payers to pass the ball about which should benefit Medel's play style. A passing midfield base of Eikrem and Medel should help show his best.

Thats fair enough. Like I said, if it changes remains to be seen.

I didnt see the game yesterday so have no reference point. However yesterday his stats signalled to him being one of the worst players on the pitch again, 6.1 was his rating I believe which was the lowest on the pitch.

No young man. my point is that who they have played for does not indicate how good they are...as was being suggested. John O'shea and Jordi Lopez being case in points, both have winners medals and played for the best clubs in the world.

Medel is average because his performances are average. Whether this will change or not remains to be seen.

Roathy, you have to admit though that you can't envy his task playing for us. It can't be easy being of that quality when his teammates can't do anything with the ball.

Like I said, he's being asked by the manager to be a holding-midfielder similar to Obi-Mikel or someone like that....but Whitts is making him play a Pirlo role cos he won't accept the creative responsibility....not an easy task

No young man. my point is that who they have played for does not indicate how good they are...as was being suggested. John O'shea and Jordi Lopez being case in points, both have winners medals and played for the best clubs in the world.

Medel is average because his performances are average. Whether this will change or not remains to be seen.

Medel is clearly used too, and most effective, playing a passing game. As you know Malky was terrified of players passing the ball about and did his best to make sure they didn't have the ball for more than half a second on average and if possession went over 40% he would fine the squad.

Solksjaer on the other hand showed yesterday that he wants the Cardiff payers to pass the ball about which should benefit Medel's play style. A passing midfield base of Eikrem and Medel should help show his best.

Thats fair enough. Like I said, if it changes remains to be seen.

I didnt see the game yesterday so have no reference point. However yesterday his stats signalled to him being one of the worst players on the pitch again, 6.1 was his rating I believe which was the lowest on the pitch.

Was that on WhoScored?

I find their ratings quite dubious. They have Alex Oxlaide-Chamberlain in Arsenal's top 5 players and he only played 3 minutes against Villa before going off injured

No young man. my point is that who they have played for does not indicate how good they are...as was being suggested. John O'shea and Jordi Lopez being case in points, both have winners medals and played for the best clubs in the world.

Medel is average because his performances are average. Whether this will change or not remains to be seen.

Roathy, you have to admit though that you can't envy his task playing for us. It can't be easy being of that quality when his teammates can't do anything with the ball.

Like I said, he's being asked by the manager to be a holding-midfielder similar to Obi-Mikel or someone like that....but Whitts is making him play a Pirlo role cos he won't accept the creative responsibility....not an easy task

Well you say "being of that quality" - im yet to see it so its hard to say. He plays in the easiest section of the field, he drops into the back 4 and plays 5 yard passes in a completely uncontested part of the field and yet his passing accuracy still is below 90% that both Canas and Britton have who play actually in central midfield in a fiercely congested and contested part of the field.

He looks very immobile to me, his concentration is not very good at all, he loses his man often, loses the ball more than he should and his tackling isnt all that either. This cant all be due to the players around him.

Was that on WhoScored?

I find their ratings quite dubious. They have Alex Oxlaide-Chamberlain in Arsenal's top 5 players and he only played 3 minutes against Villa before going off injured

Yeah thats one site, but there are a few.

Match ratings aside which I guess can be subjective, the stats are there. Considering you are a side that has been on the wrong end of possession more often than not id expect a defensive midfielder to be making more successful tackles, duels etc than he has. I mean hes had some shockers this season.

I don't think hes a bad player, hes just ok. Same sort as Canas I guess.

Medel is awesome.

Whitts needs to be dropped and I'm sure he will now we've got Eikrem.

Whitts is a liability at this level. Did you see his effort to block that cross for their goal? Looked really bad

What's that all about? Taken off after an hour as he's puffed out! If we sold him now, we'd be lucky to get £3m for him.

Moody/Mackay were totally tucked up there, terrible business.

At least Eikrem looks a great replacement, and at a fraction of the cost.


Can we have an enquiry into the transfer dealings last summer, it's all too strange.

This is a ridiculous post - OGS made a substitution which tends to happen every game and he brought on a new singing for a short run out

Moody/Mackay made a great signing here - you are a deluded if you think otherwise

Eikrem looks like a great replacement? for who?! Because medal controls our midfield, is a key player for us and will not be losing his place in our first team.

Love how you can say Eikrem looks good after 20 mins game time with a few passes and a shot straight at the keeper - he is just as big a transfer risk as Cornelius as they were both pretty much unknown in the UK but Cornelius was top goal scorer in his league..

An inquiry into what? I will reiterate that your post is ridiculous and i hope you think before you post anything else in the future

I'm glad you think he's a great signing. For £11m I don't, so we disagree. I see someone who's made 900 passes this year and is yet to have one assist. Apparently you think that's deluded. Again, I don't. No doubt you also think we got a bargain paying just £8m for Cornelius.

Makes me laugh on here that the trolls who supposedly support other teams yet are 'experts' on our team & our players from reading stats & watching the TV!!

What's that all about? Taken off after an hour as he's puffed out! If we sold him now, we'd be lucky to get £3m for him.

Moody/Mackay were totally tucked up there, terrible business.

At least Eikrem looks a great replacement, and at a fraction of the cost.


Can we have an enquiry into the transfer dealings last summer, it's all too strange.

Who has said he's 'puffed out'?
Surely this was a tactical substitution as Olly was being positive in trying to win the game as we were 1 down?
Didn't it make sense to take off a defensive midfielder for a more attacking player?

What's that all about? Taken off after an hour as he's puffed out! If we sold him now, we'd be lucky to get £3m for him.

Moody/Mackay were totally tucked up there, terrible business.

At least Eikrem looks a great replacement, and at a fraction of the cost.


Can we have an enquiry into the transfer dealings last summer, it's all too strange.

This is a ridiculous post - OGS made a substitution which tends to happen every game and he brought on a new singing for a short run out

Moody/Mackay made a great signing here - you are a deluded if you think otherwise

Eikrem looks like a great replacement? for who?! Because medal controls our midfield, is a key player for us and will not be losing his place in our first team.

Love how you can say Eikrem looks good after 20 mins game time with a few passes and a shot straight at the keeper - he is just as big a transfer risk as Cornelius as they were both pretty much unknown in the UK but Cornelius was top goal scorer in his league..

An inquiry into what? I will reiterate that your post is ridiculous and i hope you think before you post anything else in the future

I'm glad you think he's a great signing. For £11m I don't, so we disagree. I see someone who's made 900 passes this year and is yet to have one assist. Apparently you think that's deluded. Again, I don't. No doubt you also think we got a bargain paying just £8m for Cornelius.

Well I obviously cannot argue with the stats you have provided there of 900 passes & no assists

However i'm not sure if you are familiar with footballing positions so i will make you aware that it is not the job of a defensive midfielder to set up goals left right & centre

It is his job however to distribute the ball to the team and protect the back four - so 900 passes is not to bad a stat to have?

You will be on Marshall's back because he is not scoring enough goals next

Surprised at this. I really don't know what you expect from Medel. He's a defensive mid. DEFENSIVE MID. Means his role is to sit in front of the back four, tackle and break up play, which he does to great effect. Check the stats, how many goals have we conceded when he's not on the field? He's not going to go rampaging forward, firing shots and setting people up. Not that kind of player, and not his role. He has one of the highest pass completion rates at the club. And calling him fat is just playground stuff.

^ This. He does his job superbly IMO. We have other players he gives the ball to who hopefully can score, get assists & attack the opposition.

What's that all about? Taken off after an hour as he's puffed out! If we sold him now, we'd be lucky to get £3m for him.

Moody/Mackay were totally tucked up there, terrible business.

At least Eikrem looks a great replacement, and at a fraction of the cost.


Can we have an enquiry into the transfer dealings last summer, it's all too strange.

This is a ridiculous post - OGS made a substitution which tends to happen every game and he brought on a new singing for a short run out

Moody/Mackay made a great signing here - you are a deluded if you think otherwise

Eikrem looks like a great replacement? for who?! Because medal controls our midfield, is a key player for us and will not be losing his place in our first team.

Love how you can say Eikrem looks good after 20 mins game time with a few passes and a shot straight at the keeper - he is just as big a transfer risk as Cornelius as they were both pretty much unknown in the UK but Cornelius was top goal scorer in his league..

An inquiry into what? I will reiterate that your post is ridiculous and i hope you think before you post anything else in the future

I'm glad you think he's a great signing. For £11m I don't, so we disagree. I see someone who's made 900 passes this year and is yet to have one assist. Apparently you think that's deluded. Again, I don't. No doubt you also think we got a bargain paying just £8m for Cornelius.

Well I obviously cannot argue with the stats you have provided there of 900 passes & no assists

However i'm not sure if you are familiar with footballing positions so i will make you aware that it is not the job of a defensive midfielder to set up goals left right & centre

It is his job however to distribute the ball to the team and protect the back four - so 900 passes is not to bad a stat to have?

You will be on Marshall's back because he is not scoring enough goals next

Ha ha, spot on fella.

What's that all about? Taken off after an hour as he's puffed out! If we sold him now, we'd be lucky to get £3m for him.

Moody/Mackay were totally tucked up there, terrible business.

At least Eikrem looks a great replacement, and at a fraction of the cost.


Can we have an enquiry into the transfer dealings last summer, it's all too strange.

I'm annoyed as well but he isn't to blame, does his job well, he wasn't puffed out he had to be replaced so that we could press further up the pitch, I saw it coming before he was taken off....

This ^^ Nothing to do with fitness, we needed to attack. God! People complain about Malky not attacking enough. OGS replaces a DM with an AM and Malky still to blame!

What's that all about? Taken off after an hour as he's puffed out! If we sold him now, we'd be lucky to get £3m for him.

Moody/Mackay were totally tucked up there, terrible business.

At least Eikrem looks a great replacement, and at a fraction of the cost.


Can we have an enquiry into the transfer dealings last summer, it's all too strange.

This is a ridiculous post - OGS made a substitution which tends to happen every game and he brought on a new singing for a short run out

Moody/Mackay made a great signing here - you are a deluded if you think otherwise

Eikrem looks like a great replacement? for who?! Because medal controls our midfield, is a key player for us and will not be losing his place in our first team.

Love how you can say Eikrem looks good after 20 mins game time with a few passes and a shot straight at the keeper - he is just as big a transfer risk as Cornelius as they were both pretty much unknown in the UK but Cornelius was top goal scorer in his league..

An inquiry into what? I will reiterate that your post is ridiculous and i hope you think before you post anything else in the future

I'm glad you think he's a great signing. For £11m I don't, so we disagree. I see someone who's made 900 passes this year and is yet to have one assist. Apparently you think that's deluded. Again, I don't. No doubt you also think we got a bargain paying just £8m for Cornelius.

Well I obviously cannot argue with the stats you have provided there of 900 passes & no assists

However i'm not sure if you are familiar with footballing positions so i will make you aware that it is not the job of a defensive midfielder to set up goals left right & centre

It is his job however to distribute the ball to the team and protect the back four - so 900 passes is not to bad a stat to have?

You will be on Marshall's back because he is not scoring enough goals next

That defensive midfielder they call Yaya Toure - someone should tell him that getting forward, joining in the attack, creating goals and scoring the odd one himself is just not part if the defensive midfielders role.

I think you may have your defensive midfielder and your central defender mixed up, but don't let that worry you.

Judging by his performances this season you would never have guessed he was known at his last club as 'The Pitbull', not seeing he isn't a good/great player, because he has the ability and he's been superb in some games, but I feel a lot of the problem is he doesn't really get stuck in enough, doesn't make enough tackles, instead stands off more, tries to block etc.

What's that all about? Taken off after an hour as he's puffed out! If we sold him now, we'd be lucky to get £3m for him.

Moody/Mackay were totally tucked up there, terrible business.

At least Eikrem looks a great replacement, and at a fraction of the cost.


Can we have an enquiry into the transfer dealings last summer, it's all too strange.

This is a ridiculous post - OGS made a substitution which tends to happen every game and he brought on a new singing for a short run out

Moody/Mackay made a great signing here - you are a deluded if you think otherwise

Eikrem looks like a great replacement? for who?! Because medal controls our midfield, is a key player for us and will not be losing his place in our first team.

Love how you can say Eikrem looks good after 20 mins game time with a few passes and a shot straight at the keeper - he is just as big a transfer risk as Cornelius as they were both pretty much unknown in the UK but Cornelius was top goal scorer in his league..

An inquiry into what? I will reiterate that your post is ridiculous and i hope you think before you post anything else in the future

I'm glad you think he's a great signing. For £11m I don't, so we disagree. I see someone who's made 900 passes this year and is yet to have one assist. Apparently you think that's deluded. Again, I don't. No doubt you also think we got a bargain paying just £8m for Cornelius.

Well I obviously cannot argue with the stats you have provided there of 900 passes & no assists

However i'm not sure if you are familiar with footballing positions so i will make you aware that it is not the job of a defensive midfielder to set up goals left right & centre

It is his job however to distribute the ball to the team and protect the back four - so 900 passes is not to bad a stat to have?

You will be on Marshall's back because he is not scoring enough goals next

That defensive midfielder they call Yaya Toure - someone should tell him that getting forward, joining in the attack, creating goals and scoring the odd one himself is just not part if the defensive midfielders role.

I think you may have your defensive midfielder and your central defender mixed up, but don't let that worry you.

You might be on the wrong forum mate - this is Cardiff City Forum not a top 4 premier league team

Yaya Toure...
- Part of the 2009 Barcalona team
- Playing for Man City - former premier league champions and contenders for the title this season
- Four years premier league experience
- Costing £24million (towards the end of his contract) and on over £200k a week
- Surrounded by team mates with similar and higher price tags & similar wages
- Center Midfielder - mainly playing past the halfway line, making runs forward, playing the ball into the box and free kick taker
- Not a defensive midfielder but has the ability to trek back and make big tackles
- African player of the year
- All in all a world class player well out of Medal's league (and not even Medals position) & certainly no chance of ever being transferred to Cardiff City

Keep clutching at straws fella

What's that all about? Taken off after an hour as he's puffed out! If we sold him now, we'd be lucky to get £3m for him.

Moody/Mackay were totally tucked up there, terrible business.

At least Eikrem looks a great replacement, and at a fraction of the cost.


Can we have an enquiry into the transfer dealings last summer, it's all too strange.

This is a ridiculous post - OGS made a substitution which tends to happen every game and he brought on a new singing for a short run out

Moody/Mackay made a great signing here - you are a deluded if you think otherwise

Eikrem looks like a great replacement? for who?! Because medal controls our midfield, is a key player for us and will not be losing his place in our first team.

Love how you can say Eikrem looks good after 20 mins game time with a few passes and a shot straight at the keeper - he is just as big a transfer risk as Cornelius as they were both pretty much unknown in the UK but Cornelius was top goal scorer in his league..

An inquiry into what? I will reiterate that your post is ridiculous and i hope you think before you post anything else in the future

I'm glad you think he's a great signing. For £11m I don't, so we disagree. I see someone who's made 900 passes this year and is yet to have one assist. Apparently you think that's deluded. Again, I don't. No doubt you also think we got a bargain paying just £8m for Cornelius.

Well I obviously cannot argue with the stats you have provided there of 900 passes & no assists

However i'm not sure if you are familiar with footballing positions so i will make you aware that it is not the job of a defensive midfielder to set up goals left right & centre

It is his job however to distribute the ball to the team and protect the back four - so 900 passes is not to bad a stat to have?

You will be on Marshall's back because he is not scoring enough goals next

That defensive midfielder they call Yaya Toure - someone should tell him that getting forward, joining in the attack, creating goals and scoring the odd one himself is just not part if the defensive midfielders role.

I think you may have your defensive midfielder and your central defender mixed up, but don't let that worry you.

You might be on the wrong forum mate - this is Cardiff City Forum not a top 4 premier league team

Yaya Toure...
- Part of the 2009 Barcalona team
- Playing for Man City - former premier league champions and contenders for the title this season
- Four years premier league experience
- Costing £24million (towards the end of his contract) and on over £200k a week
- Surrounded by team mates with similar and higher price tags & similar wages
- Center Midfielder - mainly playing past the halfway line, making runs forward, playing the ball into the box and free kick taker
- Not a defensive midfielder but has the ability to trek back and make big tackles
- African player of the year
- All in all a world class player well out of Medal's league (and not even Medals position) & certainly no chance of ever being transferred to Cardiff City

Keep clutching at straws fella

No, you're right. Medel is worth every penny, easily our best performer. Those of us who questioned it are, as you say, deluded.

Toure & Medal are completely different players who play in different positions.

TRose69 is right again.

What's that all about? Taken off after an hour as he's puffed out! If we sold him now, we'd be lucky to get £3m for him.

Moody/Mackay were totally tucked up there, terrible business.

At least Eikrem looks a great replacement, and at a fraction of the cost.


Can we have an enquiry into the transfer dealings last summer, it's all too strange.

This is a ridiculous post - OGS made a substitution which tends to happen every game and he brought on a new singing for a short run out

Moody/Mackay made a great signing here - you are a deluded if you think otherwise

Eikrem looks like a great replacement? for who?! Because medal controls our midfield, is a key player for us and will not be losing his place in our first team.

Love how you can say Eikrem looks good after 20 mins game time with a few passes and a shot straight at the keeper - he is just as big a transfer risk as Cornelius as they were both pretty much unknown in the UK but Cornelius was top goal scorer in his league..

An inquiry into what? I will reiterate that your post is ridiculous and i hope you think before you post anything else in the future

I'm glad you think he's a great signing. For £11m I don't, so we disagree. I see someone who's made 900 passes this year and is yet to have one assist. Apparently you think that's deluded. Again, I don't. No doubt you also think we got a bargain paying just £8m for Cornelius.

Well I obviously cannot argue with the stats you have provided there of 900 passes & no assists

However i'm not sure if you are familiar with footballing positions so i will make you aware that it is not the job of a defensive midfielder to set up goals left right & centre

It is his job however to distribute the ball to the team and protect the back four - so 900 passes is not to bad a stat to have?

You will be on Marshall's back because he is not scoring enough goals next

That defensive midfielder they call Yaya Toure - someone should tell him that getting forward, joining in the attack, creating goals and scoring the odd one himself is just not part if the defensive midfielders role.

I think you may have your defensive midfielder and your central defender mixed up, but don't let that worry you.

You might be on the wrong forum mate - this is Cardiff City Forum not a top 4 premier league team

Yaya Toure...
- Part of the 2009 Barcalona team
- Playing for Man City - former premier league champions and contenders for the title this season
- Four years premier league experience
- Costing £24million (towards the end of his contract) and on over £200k a week
- Surrounded by team mates with similar and higher price tags & similar wages
- Center Midfielder - mainly playing past the halfway line, making runs forward, playing the ball into the box and free kick taker
- Not a defensive midfielder but has the ability to trek back and make big tackles
- African player of the year
- All in all a world class player well out of Medal's league (and not even Medals position) & certainly no chance of ever being transferred to Cardiff City

Keep clutching at straws fella

No, you're right. Medel is worth every penny, easily our best performer. Those of us who questioned it are, as you say, deluded.

Now you are getting it

If he thinks Medal was taken off because he was 'puffed out' & it wasn't a tactical move obviously doesn't understand the game at all.
Some no hopers on here.

If he thinks Medal was taken off because he was 'puffed out' & it wasn't a tactical move obviously doesn't understand the game at all.
Some no hopers on here.

Looking back on the posts i have got the feeling he was a wind up to be honest - some ridiculous statements

Canas cost nothing. Similar players . 11m is incredible. Although I thought he was superb against us to be fair.

He is always top class. People are just throwing their dummys out their mouths because we lost

Cobblers! - he was shit against West Ham!

Canas cost nothing. Similar players . 11m is incredible. Although I thought he was superb against us to be fair.

He is always top class. People are just throwing their dummys out their mouths because we lost

Cobblers! - he was shit against West Ham!

He was doing exactly what was expected of him,. recycling possession and keeping moves going. We had 66% possession so in a performance like that he's not likely to stand out so much as the whole team was actually keeping the ball.

If people are hopping for him to burst forward and score goals or lay on assists they're looking to the wrong player.

I'm not convinced he was worth £11 million though, and if it's true that he was available for £5 million earlier in the summer then that is criminal from Malky.

Canas cost nothing. Similar players . 11m is incredible. Although I thought he was superb against us to be fair.

He is always top class. People are just throwing their dummys out their mouths because we lost

Cobblers! - he was shit against West Ham!

He was doing exactly what was expected of him,. recycling possession and keeping moves going. We had 66% possession so in a performance like that he's not likely to stand out so much as the whole team was actually keeping the ball.

If people are hopping for him to burst forward and score goals or lay on assists they're looking to the wrong player.

I'm not convinced he was worth £11 million though, and if it's true that he was available for £5 million earlier in the summer then that is criminal from Malky.

I don't expect him to try 30 yards passes that end up 5 yards behind Declan John that go into the Ninian Stand. He also is winning far less tackles than he was at the start of the season. No surprise he was subbed off - and we were far better when he was gone.

Canas cost nothing. Similar players . 11m is incredible. Although I thought he was superb against us to be fair.

He is always top class. People are just throwing their dummys out their mouths because we lost

Cobblers! - he was shit against West Ham!

He was doing exactly what was expected of him,. recycling possession and keeping moves going. We had 66% possession so in a performance like that he's not likely to stand out so much as the whole team was actually keeping the ball.

If people are hopping for him to burst forward and score goals or lay on assists they're looking to the wrong player.

I'm not convinced he was worth £11 million though, and if it's true that he was available for £5 million earlier in the summer then that is criminal from Malky.

I don't expect him to try 30 yards passes that end up 5 yards behind Declan John that go into the Ninian Stand. He also is winning far less tackles than he was at the start of the season. No surprise he was subbed off - and we were far better when he was gone.

He was subbed off because we were changing the game plan. No point having a defensive midfielder when you're camped outside their 18 yard box.

Odemwingie was the worst player on the pitch, giving the ball away time and time again even though he had one good run, I Personally like medel, must be hard for him to play in a team who is under pressure every week, think we need another striker, another centre half and another winger

whitts run odenwingie close...