Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:12 pm
BlueMac wrote:Bluebird For Life wrote:BanterLad115 wrote:Jumping around the man u forums and we've suddenly become a second team for them, add this to the number of Norwegians taking an interest and perhaps purely on ots being appointed our viewing figures could sky rocket leading to more revenue, is Tan the idiot we all thought he was?
I might not have agreed with the way he has handled things, but I have never thought that Tan was an idiot - far from it in fact.
Agree, people would have to be of high ignorance to think a self made Billionaire business man was an idiot.
He may only be a novice in learning about football.....but, he's pretty shit hot at making a buck or two.
Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:40 pm
Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:40 pm
Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:53 pm
Sat Jan 04, 2014 1:14 pm
novice wrote:What a ridiculous threadare you telling me every club these players managed became Utd fans second team -
Steve Bruce, Steve Coppell, Mark Hughes, Paul Ince, Joe Jordan, Roy Keane, Brian Kidd,Bryan Robson,Gordon Strachan and Ray Wilkins
I can see those English lads supporting Scotland because Strachan is in charge
Will your second team be whoever Malky manages next?
Does anyone really have a second team?
Sat Jan 04, 2014 1:26 pm
Sat Jan 04, 2014 1:29 pm
Castro wrote:novice wrote:What a ridiculous threadare you telling me every club these players managed became Utd fans second team -
Steve Bruce, Steve Coppell, Mark Hughes, Paul Ince, Joe Jordan, Roy Keane, Brian Kidd,Bryan Robson,Gordon Strachan and Ray Wilkins
I can see those English lads supporting Scotland because Strachan is in charge
Will your second team be whoever Malky manages next?
Does anyone really have a second team?
I posed this question the other day. May sound harsh but its true.
Cardiff fans seem besotted with convincing themselves and eachother that greatness has been achieved regardless of the circumstances and regardless of the clear lack of logic and reality. Its amazing.
"The world is talking about us", "we are now global", "we will be Man United fans second team", we have signed a legend of the game", "attendances", "capital", "everyone in Asia will now love us" .... Etc etc etc
Its all just nonsense really and I dont think ive ever come across a club so desperate to promote themselves as something entirely dfferent to what the reality is.
Sat Jan 04, 2014 1:37 pm
Sat Jan 04, 2014 2:06 pm
Castro wrote:Im not having a go at you personally mate.
Its something that is widespread in your fanbase and something that has been apparent from the Hammam era. He fed you a lot of rubbish and its amazing that people took it on board, allowed it to fester and now its rife.
Sat Jan 04, 2014 2:07 pm
Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:01 pm
BanterLad115 wrote:Castro wrote:Im not having a go at you personally mate.
Its something that is widespread in your fanbase and something that has been apparent from the Hammam era. He fed you a lot of rubbish and its amazing that people took it on board, allowed it to fester and now its rife.
I believe we currently have greater potential, unlike most on here I don't mind arguing with you, it keeps things interesting, I never saw Laudrup play but did catch a bit of Ole so my knowledge was a quick wiki search and statistically there isn't a huge difference IMHO but obviously I never got to judge him in person so I don't mind admitting I was wrong
Sat Jan 04, 2014 9:09 pm
Sat Jan 04, 2014 9:40 pm
Ian Gibson's bookie wrote:Did you ever watch Laudrup,play? Much better than you could have imagined, unbelievable talent! Temperament very suspect, always falling out with people.
Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:29 pm
C. Rombie-Coat wrote:Ian Gibson's bookie wrote:Did you ever watch Laudrup,play? Much better than you could have imagined, unbelievable talent! Temperament very suspect, always falling out with people.
Laudrup is on his way at the end of the season.
It's not a happy ship down there.
jenkins was talking about the selection of a new manager weeks ago in his Guardian outpouring.
It's a bit of a headache for him as he knows he will run out of luck one day.
Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:34 pm
Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:37 pm
Castro wrote:The fact you are even attrmpting to compare a perennial substitute Ole Gunnar Solskjaer to Michael Laudrup is terrifying
Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:40 pm
Ian Gibson's bookie wrote:Are you laughing at your own inane opinions? Has sense dawned?
Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:42 pm
popeye21 wrote:Castro wrote:The fact you are even attrmpting to compare a perennial substitute Ole Gunnar Solskjaer to Michael Laudrup is terrifying
Castro while OGS can't be compared to M. Laudrup in terms of playing ability etc. in terms of how well known both of them are then OGS can be compared. The EPL is broadcast in 220 territories, by 80 broadcasters to 643m households every week, whereas La Liga only reached a cumulative audience for the 2011/12 season of 235m for the whole season. The EPL has a global audience which raises the profile of players, whereas La Liga is mainly a Spanish audience plus a bit of interest from a few Spanish speaking countries.
Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:53 pm
Castro wrote:popeye21 wrote:Castro wrote:The fact you are even attrmpting to compare a perennial substitute Ole Gunnar Solskjaer to Michael Laudrup is terrifying
Castro while OGS can't be compared to M. Laudrup in terms of playing ability etc. in terms of how well known both of them are then OGS can be compared. The EPL is broadcast in 220 territories, by 80 broadcasters to 643m households every week, whereas La Liga only reached a cumulative audience for the 2011/12 season of 235m for the whole season. The EPL has a global audience which raises the profile of players, whereas La Liga is mainly a Spanish audience plus a bit of interest from a few Spanish speaking countries.
It really doesn't matter. Its like comparing Michael Laudrup with Jimmy Ffloyd Hasselbaink. One had more TV exposure however the other is much better known. Hes up there with Zidane - who also didnt play in the premier league remember.
Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:00 pm
popeye21 wrote:Castro wrote:popeye21 wrote:Castro wrote:The fact you are even attrmpting to compare a perennial substitute Ole Gunnar Solskjaer to Michael Laudrup is terrifying
Castro while OGS can't be compared to M. Laudrup in terms of playing ability etc. in terms of how well known both of them are then OGS can be compared. The EPL is broadcast in 220 territories, by 80 broadcasters to 643m households every week, whereas La Liga only reached a cumulative audience for the 2011/12 season of 235m for the whole season. The EPL has a global audience which raises the profile of players, whereas La Liga is mainly a Spanish audience plus a bit of interest from a few Spanish speaking countries.
It really doesn't matter. Its like comparing Michael Laudrup with Jimmy Ffloyd Hasselbaink. One had more TV exposure however the other is much better known. Hes up there with Zidane - who also didnt play in the premier league remember.
It does matter as the post is about Marketing the club and as OGS has had more media exposure through the far greater audience of the EPL, then he is more well known and is a positive business masterstroke by VT. Your initial argument about M. Laudrup's playing ability was irrelevant as it is media exposure which is the key to marketing. This is why people who are NOBODY'S with no talent can become famous on reality TV and hence make a lot of money.
Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:03 pm
Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:04 pm
Ian Gibson's bookie wrote:Solskjaer was definitely not a star ayer!
Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:06 pm
Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:11 pm
Ian Gibson's bookie wrote:Did you make an error, ever so smart boy?
Incredulous!
Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:19 pm
Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:19 pm
Castro wrote:popeye21 wrote:Castro wrote:popeye21 wrote:Castro wrote:The fact you are even attrmpting to compare a perennial substitute Ole Gunnar Solskjaer to Michael Laudrup is terrifying
Castro while OGS can't be compared to M. Laudrup in terms of playing ability etc. in terms of how well known both of them are then OGS can be compared. The EPL is broadcast in 220 territories, by 80 broadcasters to 643m households every week, whereas La Liga only reached a cumulative audience for the 2011/12 season of 235m for the whole season. The EPL has a global audience which raises the profile of players, whereas La Liga is mainly a Spanish audience plus a bit of interest from a few Spanish speaking countries.
It really doesn't matter. Its like comparing Michael Laudrup with Jimmy Ffloyd Hasselbaink. One had more TV exposure however the other is much better known. Hes up there with Zidane - who also didnt play in the premier league remember.
It does matter as the post is about Marketing the club and as OGS has had more media exposure through the far greater audience of the EPL, then he is more well known and is a positive business masterstroke by VT. Your initial argument about M. Laudrup's playing ability was irrelevant as it is media exposure which is the key to marketing. This is why people who are NOBODY'S with no talent can become famous on reality TV and hence make a lot of money.
It wasnt my argument. It was my reply to his argument that Solskjaer was more successful so would get more fans. That os nonsense.
Pele got less exposure than Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink. Ask the world who they know more. Same goes with Laudrup. Solskjaer wasnt even a star ayer for United let aline the Premier League.
Do you think Ipswich has hoardes of fans and world wide exposure because Roy Keane was their manager (5 times the player of Solskjaer).
Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:20 pm
Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:23 pm
popeye21 wrote:Castro wrote:popeye21 wrote:Castro wrote:popeye21 wrote:Castro wrote:The fact you are even attrmpting to compare a perennial substitute Ole Gunnar Solskjaer to Michael Laudrup is terrifying
Castro while OGS can't be compared to M. Laudrup in terms of playing ability etc. in terms of how well known both of them are then OGS can be compared. The EPL is broadcast in 220 territories, by 80 broadcasters to 643m households every week, whereas La Liga only reached a cumulative audience for the 2011/12 season of 235m for the whole season. The EPL has a global audience which raises the profile of players, whereas La Liga is mainly a Spanish audience plus a bit of interest from a few Spanish speaking countries.
It really doesn't matter. Its like comparing Michael Laudrup with Jimmy Ffloyd Hasselbaink. One had more TV exposure however the other is much better known. Hes up there with Zidane - who also didnt play in the premier league remember.
It does matter as the post is about Marketing the club and as OGS has had more media exposure through the far greater audience of the EPL, then he is more well known and is a positive business masterstroke by VT. Your initial argument about M. Laudrup's playing ability was irrelevant as it is media exposure which is the key to marketing. This is why people who are NOBODY'S with no talent can become famous on reality TV and hence make a lot of money.
It wasnt my argument. It was my reply to his argument that Solskjaer was more successful so would get more fans. That os nonsense.
Pele got less exposure than Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink. Ask the world who they know more. Same goes with Laudrup. Solskjaer wasnt even a star ayer for United let aline the Premier League.
Do you think Ipswich has hoardes of fans and world wide exposure because Roy Keane was their manager (5 times the player of Solskjaer).
Ipswich are not in the EPL and while Keane was arguably a better player it is doubtful that he had as much media exposure, as OGS scored almost 200 more goals than him in his career (260 as opposed to 66) and goals get headlines.
Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:26 pm
Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:31 pm
Ian Gibson's bookie wrote:Do you have dislexiour or a stutter? I hope it's not the demon drink!