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Re: Tan's business masterstroke?

Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:12 pm

BlueMac wrote:
Bluebird For Life wrote:
BanterLad115 wrote:Jumping around the man u forums and we've suddenly become a second team for them, add this to the number of Norwegians taking an interest and perhaps purely on ots being appointed our viewing figures could sky rocket leading to more revenue, is Tan the idiot we all thought he was?


I might not have agreed with the way he has handled things, but I have never thought that Tan was an idiot - far from it in fact.


Agree, people would have to be of high ignorance to think a self made Billionaire business man was an idiot.

He may only be a novice in learning about football.....but, he's pretty shit hot at making a buck or two.


It doesn't make him any less of a cock though does it

Re: Tan's business masterstroke?

Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:40 pm

A bigger buisness move than turning the kit red it seems. It's weird its like we've signed a New player who's going to score loads of goals. Maybe Man utd fans will support city come the end of the season when we finish above them, there mustb loads of man utd glory supporters out there

Re: Tan's business masterstroke?

Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:40 pm

A bigger buisness move than turning the kit red it seems. It's weird its like we've signed a New player who's going to score loads of goals. Maybe Man utd fans will support city come the end of the season when we finish above them, there mustb loads of man utd glory supporters out there

Re: Tan's business masterstroke?

Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:53 pm

What a ridiculous thread :roll: are you telling me every club these players managed became Utd fans second team -
Steve Bruce, Steve Coppell, Mark Hughes, Paul Ince, Joe Jordan, Roy Keane, Brian Kidd,Bryan Robson,Gordon Strachan and Ray Wilkins

I can see those English lads supporting Scotland because Strachan is in charge

Will your second team be whoever Malky manages next?

Does anyone really have a second team? :laughing6:

Re: Tan's business masterstroke?

Sat Jan 04, 2014 1:14 pm

novice wrote:What a ridiculous thread :roll: are you telling me every club these players managed became Utd fans second team -
Steve Bruce, Steve Coppell, Mark Hughes, Paul Ince, Joe Jordan, Roy Keane, Brian Kidd,Bryan Robson,Gordon Strachan and Ray Wilkins

I can see those English lads supporting Scotland because Strachan is in charge

Will your second team be whoever Malky manages next?

Does anyone really have a second team? :laughing6:


I posed this question the other day. May sound harsh but its true.

Cardiff fans seem besotted with convincing themselves and eachother that greatness has been achieved regardless of the circumstances and regardless of the clear lack of logic and reality. Its amazing.

"The world is talking about us", "we are now global", "we will be Man United fans second team", we have signed a legend of the game", "attendances", "capital", "everyone in Asia will now love us" .... Etc etc etc

Its all just nonsense really and I dont think ive ever come across a club so desperate to promote themselves as something entirely dfferent to what the reality is.

Re: Tan's business masterstroke?

Sat Jan 04, 2014 1:26 pm

Come on lads we are taking things to far now even comparing ole to laudrup. This is embarrassing and just giving Castro / Roathie even more ammunition...

Re: Tan's business masterstroke?

Sat Jan 04, 2014 1:29 pm

Castro wrote:
novice wrote:What a ridiculous thread :roll: are you telling me every club these players managed became Utd fans second team -
Steve Bruce, Steve Coppell, Mark Hughes, Paul Ince, Joe Jordan, Roy Keane, Brian Kidd,Bryan Robson,Gordon Strachan and Ray Wilkins

I can see those English lads supporting Scotland because Strachan is in charge

Will your second team be whoever Malky manages next?

Does anyone really have a second team? :laughing6:


I posed this question the other day. May sound harsh but its true.

Cardiff fans seem besotted with convincing themselves and eachother that greatness has been achieved regardless of the circumstances and regardless of the clear lack of logic and reality. Its amazing.

"The world is talking about us", "we are now global", "we will be Man United fans second team", we have signed a legend of the game", "attendances", "capital", "everyone in Asia will now love us" .... Etc etc etc

Its all just nonsense really and I dont think ive ever come across a club so desperate to promote themselves as something entirely dfferent to what the reality is.


I'm only reiterating what I saw on their forums, most of them said that it was different with ole because he was such a legend and a nice guy and because they could see him becoming united manager in a few years, don't soot the messenger....

Re: Tan's business masterstroke?

Sat Jan 04, 2014 1:37 pm

Im not having a go at you personally mate.

Its something that is widespread in your fanbase and something that has been apparent from the Hammam era. He fed you a lot of rubbish and its amazing that people took it on board, allowed it to fester and now its rife.

Re: Tan's business masterstroke?

Sat Jan 04, 2014 2:06 pm

Castro wrote:Im not having a go at you personally mate.

Its something that is widespread in your fanbase and something that has been apparent from the Hammam era. He fed you a lot of rubbish and its amazing that people took it on board, allowed it to fester and now its rife.


I believe we currently have greater potential, unlike most on here I don't mind arguing with you, it keeps things interesting, I never saw Laudrup play but did catch a bit of Ole so my knowledge was a quick wiki search and statistically there isn't a huge difference IMHO but obviously I never got to judge him in person so I don't mind admitting I was wrong :thumbup:

Re: Tan's business masterstroke?

Sat Jan 04, 2014 2:07 pm

Ogs appointment has been a great bit of positive PR for the club. Pleased it has happened so quickly as well.
Ideally wanted an old hand to help us through a relegation dog fight, but I think Ogs has much more positives than I realised, and it is a really good appointment for a club in first season of Prem league.
The fact that it is realistic for him to become Manure manager if he is successful for us, just shows the esteem he is held.
They say any publicity is good publicity. Everyone has been talking about City. Say what you want about how Tan has played the Malky and colour change, the whole of the world football media now knows who Cardiff City are- that we have passionate fans, some quality players, great facilities, and a billionaire owner worth a few column inches. We have arrived.

Re: Tan's business masterstroke?

Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:01 pm

BanterLad115 wrote:
Castro wrote:Im not having a go at you personally mate.

Its something that is widespread in your fanbase and something that has been apparent from the Hammam era. He fed you a lot of rubbish and its amazing that people took it on board, allowed it to fester and now its rife.


I believe we currently have greater potential, unlike most on here I don't mind arguing with you, it keeps things interesting, I never saw Laudrup play but did catch a bit of Ole so my knowledge was a quick wiki search and statistically there isn't a huge difference IMHO but obviously I never got to judge him in person so I don't mind admitting I was wrong :thumbup:


Solskjaer was a striker thats why. Laudrup was a playmaker.

Take a butchers at this.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2oXH8F-MGpU

Re: Tan's business masterstroke?

Sat Jan 04, 2014 9:09 pm

Did you ever watch Laudrup,play? Much better than you could have imagined, unbelievable talent! Temperament very suspect, always falling out with people.

Re: Tan's business masterstroke?

Sat Jan 04, 2014 9:40 pm

Ian Gibson's bookie wrote:Did you ever watch Laudrup,play? Much better than you could have imagined, unbelievable talent! Temperament very suspect, always falling out with people.


Laudrup is on his way at the end of the season.
It's not a happy ship down there.
jenkins was talking about the selection of a new manager weeks ago in his Guardian outpouring.
It's a bit of a headache for him as he knows he will run out of luck one day.

Re: Tan's business masterstroke?

Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:29 pm

C. Rombie-Coat wrote:
Ian Gibson's bookie wrote:Did you ever watch Laudrup,play? Much better than you could have imagined, unbelievable talent! Temperament very suspect, always falling out with people.


Laudrup is on his way at the end of the season.
It's not a happy ship down there.
jenkins was talking about the selection of a new manager weeks ago in his Guardian outpouring.
It's a bit of a headache for him as he knows he will run out of luck one day.


:lol:

Re: Tan's business masterstroke?

Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:34 pm

Are you laughing at your own inane opinions? Has sense dawned?

Re: Tan's business masterstroke?

Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:37 pm

Castro wrote:The fact you are even attrmpting to compare a perennial substitute Ole Gunnar Solskjaer to Michael Laudrup is terrifying :lol:

Castro while OGS can't be compared to M. Laudrup in terms of playing ability etc. in terms of how well known both of them are then OGS can be compared. The EPL is broadcast in 220 territories, by 80 broadcasters to 643m households every week, whereas La Liga only reached a cumulative audience for the 2011/12 season of 235m for the whole season. The EPL has a global audience which raises the profile of players, whereas La Liga is mainly a Spanish audience plus a bit of interest from a few Spanish speaking countries.

Re: Tan's business masterstroke?

Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:40 pm

Ian Gibson's bookie wrote:Are you laughing at your own inane opinions? Has sense dawned?


Inane? Yet you just admitted I was correct because I am subjective. A concept you dont possess by your shock I would state the truth and not lie.... Presumably like yourself :D

Re: Tan's business masterstroke?

Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:42 pm

popeye21 wrote:
Castro wrote:The fact you are even attrmpting to compare a perennial substitute Ole Gunnar Solskjaer to Michael Laudrup is terrifying :lol:

Castro while OGS can't be compared to M. Laudrup in terms of playing ability etc. in terms of how well known both of them are then OGS can be compared. The EPL is broadcast in 220 territories, by 80 broadcasters to 643m households every week, whereas La Liga only reached a cumulative audience for the 2011/12 season of 235m for the whole season. The EPL has a global audience which raises the profile of players, whereas La Liga is mainly a Spanish audience plus a bit of interest from a few Spanish speaking countries.


It really doesn't matter. Its like comparing Michael Laudrup with Jimmy Ffloyd Hasselbaink. One had more TV exposure however the other is much better known. Hes up there with Zidane - who also didnt play in the premier league remember.

Re: Tan's business masterstroke?

Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:53 pm

Castro wrote:
popeye21 wrote:
Castro wrote:The fact you are even attrmpting to compare a perennial substitute Ole Gunnar Solskjaer to Michael Laudrup is terrifying :lol:

Castro while OGS can't be compared to M. Laudrup in terms of playing ability etc. in terms of how well known both of them are then OGS can be compared. The EPL is broadcast in 220 territories, by 80 broadcasters to 643m households every week, whereas La Liga only reached a cumulative audience for the 2011/12 season of 235m for the whole season. The EPL has a global audience which raises the profile of players, whereas La Liga is mainly a Spanish audience plus a bit of interest from a few Spanish speaking countries.


It really doesn't matter. Its like comparing Michael Laudrup with Jimmy Ffloyd Hasselbaink. One had more TV exposure however the other is much better known. Hes up there with Zidane - who also didnt play in the premier league remember.

It does matter as the post is about Marketing the club and as OGS has had more media exposure through the far greater audience of the EPL, then he is more well known and is a positive business masterstroke by VT. Your initial argument about M. Laudrup's playing ability was irrelevant as it is media exposure which is the key to marketing. This is why people who are NOBODY'S with no talent can become famous on reality TV and hence make a lot of money.

Re: Tan's business masterstroke?

Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:00 pm

popeye21 wrote:
Castro wrote:
popeye21 wrote:
Castro wrote:The fact you are even attrmpting to compare a perennial substitute Ole Gunnar Solskjaer to Michael Laudrup is terrifying :lol:

Castro while OGS can't be compared to M. Laudrup in terms of playing ability etc. in terms of how well known both of them are then OGS can be compared. The EPL is broadcast in 220 territories, by 80 broadcasters to 643m households every week, whereas La Liga only reached a cumulative audience for the 2011/12 season of 235m for the whole season. The EPL has a global audience which raises the profile of players, whereas La Liga is mainly a Spanish audience plus a bit of interest from a few Spanish speaking countries.


It really doesn't matter. Its like comparing Michael Laudrup with Jimmy Ffloyd Hasselbaink. One had more TV exposure however the other is much better known. Hes up there with Zidane - who also didnt play in the premier league remember.

It does matter as the post is about Marketing the club and as OGS has had more media exposure through the far greater audience of the EPL, then he is more well known and is a positive business masterstroke by VT. Your initial argument about M. Laudrup's playing ability was irrelevant as it is media exposure which is the key to marketing. This is why people who are NOBODY'S with no talent can become famous on reality TV and hence make a lot of money.


It wasnt my argument. It was my reply to his argument that Solskjaer was more successful so would get more fans. That os nonsense.

Pele got less exposure than Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink. Ask the world who they know more. Same goes with Laudrup. Solskjaer wasnt even a star ayer for United let aline the Premier League.

Do you think Ipswich has hoardes of fans and world wide exposure because Roy Keane was their manager (5 times the player of Solskjaer).

Re: Tan's business masterstroke?

Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:03 pm

Solskjaer was definitely not a star ayer!

Re: Tan's business masterstroke?

Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:04 pm

Ian Gibson's bookie wrote:Solskjaer was definitely not a star ayer!


Correct clost boy (sic) :lol:

Re: Tan's business masterstroke?

Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:06 pm

Did you make an error, ever so smart boy?
Incredulous!

Re: Tan's business masterstroke?

Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:11 pm

Ian Gibson's bookie wrote:Did you make an error, ever so smart boy?
Incredulous!


nope, it was intentional bait :D

267 out of 273 :shock: :lol:

Re: Tan's business masterstroke?

Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:19 pm

Hello closet boy :ayatollah:

Re: Tan's business masterstroke?

Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:19 pm

Castro wrote:
popeye21 wrote:
Castro wrote:
popeye21 wrote:
Castro wrote:The fact you are even attrmpting to compare a perennial substitute Ole Gunnar Solskjaer to Michael Laudrup is terrifying :lol:

Castro while OGS can't be compared to M. Laudrup in terms of playing ability etc. in terms of how well known both of them are then OGS can be compared. The EPL is broadcast in 220 territories, by 80 broadcasters to 643m households every week, whereas La Liga only reached a cumulative audience for the 2011/12 season of 235m for the whole season. The EPL has a global audience which raises the profile of players, whereas La Liga is mainly a Spanish audience plus a bit of interest from a few Spanish speaking countries.


It really doesn't matter. Its like comparing Michael Laudrup with Jimmy Ffloyd Hasselbaink. One had more TV exposure however the other is much better known. Hes up there with Zidane - who also didnt play in the premier league remember.

It does matter as the post is about Marketing the club and as OGS has had more media exposure through the far greater audience of the EPL, then he is more well known and is a positive business masterstroke by VT. Your initial argument about M. Laudrup's playing ability was irrelevant as it is media exposure which is the key to marketing. This is why people who are NOBODY'S with no talent can become famous on reality TV and hence make a lot of money.


It wasnt my argument. It was my reply to his argument that Solskjaer was more successful so would get more fans. That os nonsense.

Pele got less exposure than Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink. Ask the world who they know more. Same goes with Laudrup. Solskjaer wasnt even a star ayer for United let aline the Premier League.

Do you think Ipswich has hoardes of fans and world wide exposure because Roy Keane was their manager (5 times the player of Solskjaer).


Ipswich are not in the EPL and while Keane was arguably a better player it is doubtful that he had as much media exposure, as OGS scored almost 200 more goals than him in his career (260 as opposed to 66) and goals get headlines.

Re: Tan's business masterstroke?

Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:20 pm

Laudrup was a great ayer,

Re: Tan's business masterstroke?

Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:23 pm

popeye21 wrote:
Castro wrote:
popeye21 wrote:
Castro wrote:
popeye21 wrote:
Castro wrote:The fact you are even attrmpting to compare a perennial substitute Ole Gunnar Solskjaer to Michael Laudrup is terrifying :lol:

Castro while OGS can't be compared to M. Laudrup in terms of playing ability etc. in terms of how well known both of them are then OGS can be compared. The EPL is broadcast in 220 territories, by 80 broadcasters to 643m households every week, whereas La Liga only reached a cumulative audience for the 2011/12 season of 235m for the whole season. The EPL has a global audience which raises the profile of players, whereas La Liga is mainly a Spanish audience plus a bit of interest from a few Spanish speaking countries.


It really doesn't matter. Its like comparing Michael Laudrup with Jimmy Ffloyd Hasselbaink. One had more TV exposure however the other is much better known. Hes up there with Zidane - who also didnt play in the premier league remember.

It does matter as the post is about Marketing the club and as OGS has had more media exposure through the far greater audience of the EPL, then he is more well known and is a positive business masterstroke by VT. Your initial argument about M. Laudrup's playing ability was irrelevant as it is media exposure which is the key to marketing. This is why people who are NOBODY'S with no talent can become famous on reality TV and hence make a lot of money.


It wasnt my argument. It was my reply to his argument that Solskjaer was more successful so would get more fans. That os nonsense.

Pele got less exposure than Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink. Ask the world who they know more. Same goes with Laudrup. Solskjaer wasnt even a star ayer for United let aline the Premier League.

Do you think Ipswich has hoardes of fans and world wide exposure because Roy Keane was their manager (5 times the player of Solskjaer).


Ipswich are not in the EPL and while Keane was arguably a better player it is doubtful that he had as much media exposure, as OGS scored almost 200 more goals than him in his career (260 as opposed to 66) and goals get headlines.


You dont think Roy Keane had as much media exposure as OGS?! :shock:

Roy Keane is one if the most talked about and written about football players the Premier League has ever seen.

Thismis pie imnthe sky stuff, it really is.

Re: Tan's business masterstroke?

Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:26 pm

Do you have dislexiour or a stutter? I hope it's not the demon drink!

Re: Tan's business masterstroke?

Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:31 pm

Ian Gibson's bookie wrote:Do you have dislexiour or a stutter? I hope it's not the demon drink!


"Dislexiour" :lol: thats amazingly ironic.

277 out of 283 :lol: