Little old Swansea, is anything happening there ?????

Can someone please explain this strange obsession of being a club based in a capital city?

Do London clubs act the same strange way to non London clubs for instance?

Do Hibs & Hearts act like this to Celtic and Rangers?

Or is this purely a Cardiff obsession?

Just a fact we are your Capital and get everything

Swansea people have been obsessed by that for decades, I am not sure why, probably stems from jealousy ???

Yeah great, but you didn't answer the question(s) though. They aren't hard, have another go.

No, not having another go? any other Cardiff fans want to have a stab at it?

I'll have a go:
1 - Inferiority complex
2 - no
3 - no
4 - yes
Simples!!!

London's my capital , Cardiff's my home.

Media attention inevitably focuses on the bigger clubs.

Keep telling yourself that. Eventually, you may even believe it

good point..some of our fans are not 100% sure that we are a big club

every Cardiff fan should be forced to spend a week in Swansea listening to you lot...............then they would be sure

Media attention inevitably focuses on the bigger clubs.

Keep telling yourself that. Eventually, you may even believe it

good point..some of our fans are not 100% sure that we are a big club

every Cardiff fan should be forced to spend a week in Swansea listening to you lot...............then they would be sure

So massive you can't even sell out your homes games for your first top flight season. Real massive club!!

Haven't heard feck all about them since City were promoted, we've definately stolen their thunder

Yes, have to agree that your circus certainly has the whole of Britain laughing, whether it be on tv, in the papers or on the internet it appears that everyone is taking the piss

Who are you

Wales' no. 1 club. Who are you?

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Haven't heard feck all about them since City were promoted, we've definately stolen their thunder

Yes, have to agree that your circus certainly has the whole of Britain laughing, whether it be on tv, in the papers or on the internet it appears that everyone is taking the piss

Who are you

Wales' no. 1 club. Who are you?

1-0

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/tables

We own a bigger stadium! We don't need to rent!
We don't have an egg chasing team's name all over our seats!
We have bigger attendances!
We are in the middle of a stadium extension!
We have a bigger catchment area, in terms of population.
Our academy is substantially bigger and superior as witnessed by the higher numbers of Welsh internationals we have produced.
We have had a higher level of financial investment and this looks to be continuing.
We appoint a new manager and it makes the national news! The response on Planetswamp is hilarious!
I can't imagine why anybody from Cardiff should have any sort of superiority complex!
How anybody from Swansea is able to answer with authority for people from London and Edinburgh is puzzling!
The reason why people from Edinburgh don't give it large about football to the citizens of Glasgow is because Celtic and Rangers have thrashed the pants off Hibs and Hearts for over a century!

We own a bigger stadium! We don't need to rent!

cool, how many extra points does that get you?

We don't have an egg chasing team's name all over our seats!

how many extra points does that get you?

We have bigger attendances!

how many extra points does that get you?

We are in the middle of a stadium extension!

how many extra points does that get you?

We have a bigger catchment area, in terms of population.

how many extra points does that get you?

Our academy is substantially bigger and superior as witnessed by the higher numbers of Welsh internationals we have produced.

in your current squad how many do you have? I can think of John alone. Who is better John or Davies?

We have had a higher level of financial investment and this looks to be continuing.

more loans then? Sweet.

We appoint a new manager and it makes the national news! The response on Planetswamp is hilarious!

cool, how many extra points does that get you?

I can't imagine why anybody from Cardiff should have any sort of superiority complex!
then your imagination is zero

How anybody from Swansea is able to answer with authority for people from London and Edinburgh is puzzling!
The reason why people from Edinburgh don't give it large about football to the citizens of Glasgow is because Celtic and Rangers have thrashed the pants off Hibs and Hearts for over a century!

bet man united hate barnet as a result

So everything I said you do not dispute! We are currently in the same league as you and as you so often point out our status can not be determined till the whole thing is played out.
We are a club heading in the right direction both on and off the field. If Tan turns debt to equity as proposed and he has delivered on everything he has promised to date! Even if he operates a little eccentrically, you can not dispute that. Dalman has said himself our club is essentially debt free and we don't have the EU concerned with our rent arrangements.

Another embarrassing thread created by a Cardiff fan.

So everything I said you do not dispute! We are currently in the same league as you and as you so often point out our status can not be determined till the whole thing is played out.
We are a club heading in the right direction both on and off the field. If Tan turns debt to equity as proposed and he has delivered on everything he has promised to date! Even if he operates a little eccentrically, you can not dispute that. Dalman has said himself our club is essentially debt free and we don't have the EU concerned with our rent arrangements.

Well some i dispute, some i agree with. however id say none of them have any relevance at all. Its like saying Everton are better than Man United because they have more fans from Merseyside - although true, it doesn't really mean anything. Newcastle have a bigger stadium and bigger attendances than Liverpool - so what?

I do disagree strongly with a club going in the right direction on and off the field though. In recent weeks you have slipped to 1 point of the relegation zone and your off the field problems are becoming more perilous with an extra £25m loan notes about to be attached to the club this month which according to Annis could take your debt levels to £200m - that certainly is not the right direction I can assure you.

So Swansea Town are not sliding anywhere? All is fine!
Potential for growth is always important in judging the long term prospects of any business, always relevant!

So Swansea Town are not sliding anywhere? All is fine!

agreed. We seem to have been 4 points and a host of GD above the relegation zone for some time.

Potential for growth is always important in judging the long term prospects of any business, always relevant!

building something bigger doesnt mean you will grow though, otherwise Tamworth would increase to a 30,000 stadium. The fact is you arent selling out your stadium now so increasing it drains money not creates it.

As i said - it doesnt get you more points, again i refer you to Liverpool and Newcastle

Your justification for any point you are trying to make is getting more and more ludicrous.
Are you seriously comparing Tamworth to Cardiff City? Do you realise how many people,we have on the waiting list for season tickets? We have a major European game scheduled to take place in our stadium.
Why do you keep making obscure references to Everton and Newcastle? We are talking about Cardiff City and it's potential to exploit fully the attraction of the Premier League in it's geographical location.

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Anyone know what's happening with swanseas expansion ?

Anyone know what's happening with swanseas expansion ?

It's awaiting planning permission following alterations to the travel plan.

Hope this helps

Anyone know what's happening with swanseas expansion ?

It's awaiting planning permission following alterations to the travel plan.

Hope this helps

what do you mean by travel plan?

Your justification for any point you are trying to make is getting more and more ludicrous.
Are you seriously comparing Tamworth to Cardiff City? Do you realise how many people,we have on the waiting list for season tickets?

the comparison is perfectly valid. Neither sell out your home allocation meaning an expansion wont generate the higher attendances. Also ill humour you, lets pretend that you do sell out and the demand is huge... 4,000 extra fans at £380 a ticket = £1.5m circa. Its peanuts.

We have a major European game scheduled to take place in our stadium.

we had Pink play at ours. Cant ever imagine a need to claim this as an achievement for Swansea though

Why do you keep making obscure references to Everton and Newcastle? We are talking about Cardiff City and it's potential to exploit fully the attraction of the Premier League in its,geographical location.

because you are making reference to attendance in order to perpetuate your vague argument. Ive shown by that example that having a bigger ground and attendances mean nothing.

Anyone know what's happening with swanseas expansion ?

It's awaiting planning permission following alterations to the travel plan.

Hope this helps

what do you mean by travel plan?

The submission as part of the planning application regarding the access of fans to and from the stadium. i.e. park and ride, car parking, public transport etc.

Anyone know what's happening with swanseas expansion ?

It's awaiting planning permission following alterations to the travel plan.

Hope this helps

what do you mean by travel plan?

The submission as part of the planning application regarding the access of fans to and from the stadium. i.e. park and ride, car parking, public transport etc.

ok cheers

Castro the mystic peg! We shall see where the future leads us!

Clubs in London or Edinburgh cannot claim to represent their capital as there are more than one club in each of them within their main league.

Cardiff are unique in mainland UK as we are the ONLY club that can fully represent the capital of a
a nation.

That's my attempt to explain why Cardiff fans seem besotted with it.

Anyone know what's happening with swanseas expansion ?

It's awaiting planning permission following alterations to the travel plan.

Hope this helps

what do you mean by travel plan?

The submission as part of the planning application regarding the access of fans to and from the stadium. i.e. park and ride, car parking, public transport etc.

Are your club being pressed by the council to provide the local community with better transport in return for planning permission?

Cardiff Council tried a similar trick.

Anyone know what's happening with swanseas expansion ?

It's awaiting planning permission following alterations to the travel plan.

Hope this helps

what do you mean by travel plan?

The submission as part of the planning application regarding the access of fans to and from the stadium. i.e. park and ride, car parking, public transport etc.

Are your club being pressed by the council to provide the local community with better transport in return for planning permission?

Cardiff Council tried a similar trick.

More a case of the infrastructure around the stadium isn't conducive to an increase in capacity.

Roads are gridlocked as it is without an extra 4-12k.

More a case of the infrastructure around the stadium isn't conducive to an increase in capacity.

Roads are gridlocked as it is without an extra 4-12k.

I always thought the bridge over the river should be removed. I know it's extreme but at least then shopping traffic goes via one roundabout and then only football traffic uses the roundabout at the stadium.

CCS is pretty gridlocked on match day but at least it has its own dedicated road in and the attached retail has another road.

Castro the mystic peg! We shall see where the future leads us!

Dont have to be mystic to know 4000 seats sold at £370 a year gives circa £1.5m turnover, less than a million after tax.

Stupendous growth eh? We are all quaking in our boots at the potential extra 850k you will have

Dreadful day to go fishing but your net is bulging! Congratulations!

Dont have to be mystic to know 4000 seats sold at £370 a year gives circa £1.5m turnover, less than a million after tax.

Stupendous growth eh? We are all quaking in our boots at the potential extra 850k you will have

5,150 expansion including 250 premier seating. Around £2,500,000 + boxes + expenditure at a minimum of £5 each is easily £3million.

But its about bums on seats and I'm still not sure the seats are needed.

Dont have to be mystic to know 4000 seats sold at £370 a year gives circa £1.5m turnover, less than a million after tax.

Stupendous growth eh? We are all quaking in our boots at the potential extra 850k you will have

5,150 expansion including 250 premier seating. Around £2,500,000 + boxes + expenditure at a minimum of £5 each is easily £3million.

But its about bums on seats and I'm still not sure the seats are needed.

That amount is taxed remember - heavily. Any income from this - then slice it in half pretty much.

I dont want to keep labouring the point but Annis said just the other day that he is suprised you arent selling out... So why woud the introduction of 5,000 new seats mean more fans?

The point was brought uo that the club can grow due to this expansion. Im questioning it, does an extra million or so really make a difference? Not for me. especially when its clearly dubious as to whether it will bear any fruit in the first place let alone bear maximum yield.

Dont have to be mystic to know 4000 seats sold at £370 a year gives circa £1.5m turnover, less than a million after tax.

Stupendous growth eh? We are all quaking in our boots at the potential extra 850k you will have

5,150 expansion including 250 premier seating. Around £2,500,000 + boxes + expenditure at a minimum of £5 each is easily £3million.

But its about bums on seats and I'm still not sure the seats are needed.

That amount is taxed remember - heavily. Any income from this - then slice it in half pretty much.

I dont want to keep labouring the point but Annis said just the other day that he is suprised you arent selling out... So why woud the introduction of 5,000 new seats mean more fans?

The point was brought uo that the club can grow due to this expansion. Im questioning it, does an extra million or so really make a difference? Not for me. especially when its clearly dubious as to whether it will bear any fruit in the first place let alone bear maximum yield.

Did you read my last line?