" My Worries and Concerns "

no experience in English league? well he managed man utd reserved for 2 years yeah it might only be reserves but he did and also look at tim Sherwood hes doing good for spurs after only managing youth football, nigel adkins started out as a physio but hes done well as a manager, malky first job was Watford and that was only for 18 months before he came to us, lets all be paitent and see how osg does for us he could be bad but he could be good

There is no way we will be in 180 million debt annis with the extra turnover this year of 90 million plus

That 90 million is not given to you this season, it is broken down into parts over time, in any case the club will only convert it's debt once a profit is being made, it took Fulham years to do this.

Your wrong mate our turn over will be around 90 million its 65 million just in tv money alone this year with the new deal for finishing bottom ,with increased gates ,New sponsorship deals we will have our record turnover

Your are forgetting that quite a lot of that goes on overheads, wages, bonuses etc... no promoted team makes a healthy profit in their 1st year as they adapt, it's always the 2nd and 3rd seasons.

Still can't see the debt any where near 180 million, as annis is saying

There is no way we will be in 180 million debt annis with the extra turnover this year of 90 million plus

That 90 million is not given to you this season, it is broken down into parts over time, in any case the club will only convert it's debt once a profit is being made, it took Fulham years to do this.

Your wrong mate our turn over will be around 90 million its 65 million just in tv money alone this year with the new deal for finishing bottom ,with increased gates ,New sponsorship deals we will have our record turnover

Your are forgetting that quite a lot of that goes on overheads, wages, bonuses etc... no promoted team makes a healthy profit in their 1st year as they adapt, it's always the 2nd and 3rd seasons.

Still can't see the debt any where near 180 million, as annis is saying

I don't think it's that figure, but you will make a loss this season.

If you want positivity guys get of this thread and read this viewforum.php?f=2

There is no way we will be in 180 million debt annis with the extra turnover this year of 90 million plus

That 90 million is not given to you this season, it is broken down into parts over time, in any case the club will only convert it's debt once a profit is being made, it took Fulham years to do this.

Your wrong mate our turn over will be around 90 million its 65 million just in tv money alone this year with the new deal for finishing bottom ,with increased gates ,New sponsorship deals we will have our record turnover

Your are forgetting that quite a lot of that goes on overheads, wages, bonuses etc... no promoted team makes a healthy profit in their 1st year as they adapt, it's always the 2nd and 3rd seasons.

Still can't see the debt any where near 180 million, as annis is saying

wez it will depend on how its broken down? and how much is taken up by wages ect ect expect it to be at least same but probably a bit more, but spare thought for bolton £150mil with just parachute payments left and nowhere near enough income to make dent in debt!

Well Malky was taking us down so its worth a roll of the dice with something new, something fresh.

Lets just hope OGS has more of a clue than Malky when it comes to knowing whats required to attack and score goals at this level.

He sure did as a player and has done everything asked of him so far as a manager so theres a glimmer of hope.

Our new manager, of course we must all give him the full backing but I have massive doubts, worries and concerns about him, the Norwegian league is no better than the Irish league, no managerial experience in the English League, turned us down originally and is going straight into a managers job with a club struggling to survive in this league and with a lunatic of an owner behind him.quote]

Laudrup and Pochettino ( Southampton manager and cant speak a word of English) seems to be doing alright for themselves at the moment

Laudrup isn't doing that well, mind you he doesn't gt much backing in wages or transfer fees.....

Pochettino is doing well though.....

First I see us dropping into the bottom three in January unless we beat West Ham and get a point at either Man City or Man Utd, once your in that bottom three it is very hard to get out as history shows.

Once again today Vincent Tan showed how much of a clown he is by wearing blue, is it sarcasm ? Is it a piss take ? Or is he giving us our identity back ? No chance on the third one.

Our debt, I reckon it could reach £180m come June 2014 unless he does what he stated 18 months ago that he would turn the debt to equity. I have been told that he intends to convert in February, let's hope it turns out to be true.

It is good to see we still got battling performances left in us but once again no quality up front and Whittingham is a waste of time.

Our new manager, of course we must all give him the full backing but I have massive doubts, worries and concerns about him, the Norwegian league is no better than the Irish league, no managerial experience in the English League, turned us down originally and is going straight into a managers job with a club struggling to survive in this league and with a lunatic of an owner behind him.

Of course this is my opinion and beliefs but a lot of facts with it, shoot me down but honestly I am very worried, West Ham is the most important game so far this season, it actually could define the season and yes I was proud of the players today, that's all I ask for is 100% and every player gave that today. Our fans once again were superb today.

Doom and Gloom

First I see us dropping into the bottom three in January unless we beat West Ham and get a point at either Man City or Man Utd, once your in that bottom three it is very hard to get out as history shows.

Once again today Vincent Tan showed how much of a clown he is by wearing blue, is it sarcasm ? Is it a piss take ? Or is he giving us our identity back ? No chance on the third one.

Our debt, I reckon it could reach £180m come June 2014 unless he does what he stated 18 months ago that he would turn the debt to equity. I have been told that he intends to convert in February, let's hope it turns out to be true.

It is good to see we still got battling performances left in us but once again no quality up front and Whittingham is a waste of time.

Our new manager, of course we must all give him the full backing but I have massive doubts, worries and concerns about him, the Norwegian league is no better than the Irish league, no managerial experience in the English League, turned us down originally and is going straight into a managers job with a club struggling to survive in this league and with a lunatic of an owner behind him.

Of course this is my opinion and beliefs but a lot of facts with it, shoot me down but honestly I am very worried, West Ham is the most important game so far this season, it actually could define the season and yes I was proud of the players today, that's all I ask for is 100% and every player gave that today. Our fans once again were superb today.

easy win for you... we are a shower of shit.

I've learnt there's no point in worrying over something you've got no control over

Our new manager, of course we must all give him the full backing but I have massive doubts, worries and concerns about him, the Norwegian league is no better than the Irish league, no managerial experience in the English League, turned us down originally and is going straight into a managers job with a club struggling to survive in this league and with a lunatic of an owner behind him.quote]

Laudrup and Pochettino ( Southampton manager and cant speak a word of English) seems to be doing alright for themselves at the moment

Laudrup isn't doing that well, mind you he doesn't gt much backing in wages or transfer fees.....

Pochettino is doing well though.....

A 9th place finish and a major trophy ain't bad, far too difficult to better or replicate that with our budget at the moment, although staying up this year means an even bigger budget in the summer. He had 30million back in the summer and spent less.

Most appointments are a gamble, you just cannot tell. It's all ifs and buts, time will tell. West ham is the biggest game this season without a doubt, in my opinion a point at utd wouldn't be impossible. We need 4 from the 3 games and while its gone it shows why we needed to beat Sunderland. Back ogs, he might not have loads of experience but I would expect him to surround himself with people who do. Heads up, back the boys and we will be ok as they have the correct attitude and we just need to adjust a few things.

Annis my honest opinion is you are letting Tan, Rebrand etc get in the way of us having a new manager, give the guy a chance like you gave Malky its not OGS fault what Tan has done to our club in my opinion these are 2 separate issues I honestly think we would have gone down with malky in charge so what have we got to lose.

There is no way we will be in 180 million debt annis with the extra turnover this year of 90 million plus

That 90 million is not given to you this season, it is broken down into parts over time, in any case the club will only convert it's debt once a profit is being made, it took Fulham years to do this.

Your wrong mate our turn over will be around 90 million its 65 million just in tv money alone this year with the new deal for finishing bottom ,with increased gates ,New sponsorship deals we will have our record turnover

Your are forgetting that quite a lot of that goes on overheads, wages, bonuses etc... no promoted team makes a healthy profit in their 1st year as they adapt, it's always the 2nd and 3rd seasons.

The is a forecasted profit of £25 million for this season....we are not going to do a Fulham.

January was always going to be a tough month where 3 points would have been accepted given who the 3 away fixtures are against. By the time we play united with perhaps a signing or two would 6 points for the month be out of the question given how badly Utd are playing. February and March could see us climbing the table.

Time to be positive support the teams, and chip away at a return to Blue.

Once again today Vincent Tan showed how much of a clown he is by wearing blue, is it sarcasm ? Is it a piss take ? Or is he giving us our identity back ? No chance on the third one.

Is it that much of a concern to you what Tan wears? He wore a jumper, why does it have to mean something. Who cares what colour it is?

Yes def as 99% 0f the time Tan wears that pathetic red top and today was some kind of statement from him.

There is no way we will be in 180 million debt annis with the extra turnover this year of 90 million plus

I think it will be Wez, first we dont get that much money straight away and our wage bill and expenses at our club arein there £millions which comes of the money we will be getting. Also I now believe Tan will be spending £millions upon £millions trying to stay up and chasing his £millions he has already lent us.

Once again today Vincent Tan showed how much of a clown he is by wearing blue, is it sarcasm ? Is it a piss take ? Or is he giving us our identity back ? No chance on the third one.

Is it that much of a concern to you what Tan wears? He wore a jumper, why does it have to mean something. Who cares what colour it is?

Yes def as 99% 0f the time Tan wears that pathetic red top and today was some kind of statement from him.

Annis, we were playing in blue today so why wouldn't he wear blue? What's the problem with that?Would look a bit silly in red at Emirates.

Whitts given Man of the match on talksport !!!

Well that shocks me. I have always said he goes missing and does not produce his class he has when it matters and that to me over a season has shown season after season. Sorry not Premiership in my opinion as he is not consistent, Malky and I disagreed on Whitts

First I see us dropping into the bottom three in January unless we beat West Ham and get a point at either Man City or Man Utd, once your in that bottom three it is very hard to get out as history shows.

Once again today Vincent Tan showed how much of a clown he is by wearing blue, is it sarcasm ? Is it a piss take ? Or is he giving us our identity back ? No chance on the third one.

Our debt, I reckon it could reach £180m come June 2014 unless he does what he stated 18 months ago that he would turn the debt to equity. I have been told that he intends to convert in February, let's hope it turns out to be true.

It is good to see we still got battling performances left in us but once again no quality up front and Whittingham is a waste of time.

Our new manager, of course we must all give him the full backing but I have massive doubts, worries and concerns about him, the Norwegian league is no better than the Irish league, no managerial experience in the English League, turned us down originally and is going straight into a managers job with a club struggling to survive in this league and with a lunatic of an owner behind him.

Of course this is my opinion and beliefs but a lot of facts with it, shoot me down but honestly I am very worried, West Ham is the most important game so far this season, it actually could define the season and yes I was proud of the players today, that's all I ask for is 100% and every player gave that today. Our fans once again were superb today.

whilst i agree with most of that annis you cant get a better grounding than what he had at old trafford looking after the reserve team under the wing of fergie.
i hope he does bring phelan with him because his experience and knowledge of where we need to be tactically and fitness wise is as good as any manager in the premier league.

Steve, I honestly forgot that he had been Reserve manager under Fergus, Without a doubt that will have helped him I really hope he does well for us, but honestly I think it is a massive massive gamble and does worry me.

I, for one, am actually excited by the future of Cardiff City!

OGS can only win what's put in front of him in Norway - he did that.
When Tan converts debt for equity we will be debt free - something no other owner has managed - far cry from the likes of Bolton and Blackburn at present.

A new manager who will actually use the SQUAD and not his favourites - the future is bright in my opinion!

That is very true and I use those words many times on other football matters.
Still a very far cry from the Premier League.

nice to see a bit of optimism..

Sorry Cal, my honest belief and opinion.

Whitts given Man of the match on talksport !!!

Well that shocks me. I have always said he goes missing and does not produce his class he has when it matters and that to me over a season has shown season after season. Sorry not Premiership in my opinion as he is not consistent, Malky and I disagreed on Whitts

Malky never spoke to you about Whitts , so how did you have a disagreement ?

You are right though about the gamble we are now taking. Let's hope for the best.

Hasta la vista , I won't be back

Maybe he was wearing the same colour as the team ran out in?

Craig, why has he not done this before today then?

Annis, I share your concerns and have reservations about how quickly he can adapt and recruit assuming he has been given the green light to bring players in.
The key for me is his back up team, if as some have suggested Phelan comes to assist this would give me more confidence.
It seems inevitable that OGS will be confirmed and if so we as fans have a huge responsibility to show him our great our support can be and get right behind him and the team.
Hopefully, we can beat West Ham, don't expect anything from Man City or Man Utd ( but you never know ), in which case we won't be cut adrift.
Malky whether we liked or disliked him & his playing style is gone and it's time to support the NEW manager

If he gets a very good back up team, that totally changes things

Maybe he was wearing the same colour as the team ran out in?

Craig, why has he not done this before today then?

No idea, I dont pay much attention to his attire

First I see us dropping into the bottom three in January unless we beat West Ham and get a point at either Man City or Man Utd, once your in that bottom three it is very hard to get out as history shows.

Once again today Vincent Tan showed how much of a clown he is by wearing blue, is it sarcasm ? Is it a piss take ? Or is he giving us our identity back ? No chance on the third one.

Our debt, I reckon it could reach £180m come June 2014 unless he does what he stated 18 months ago that he would turn the debt to equity. I have been told that he intends to convert in February, let's hope it turns out to be true.

It is good to see we still got battling performances left in us but once again no quality up front and Whittingham is a waste of time.

Our new manager, of course we must all give him the full backing but I have massive doubts, worries and concerns about him, the Norwegian league is no better than the Irish league, no managerial experience in the English League, turned us down originally and is going straight into a managers job with a club struggling to survive in this league and with a lunatic of an owner behind him.

Of course this is my opinion and beliefs but a lot of facts with it, shoot me down but honestly I am very worried, West Ham is the most important game so far this season, it actually could define the season and yes I was proud of the players today, that's all I ask for is 100% and every player gave that today. Our fans once again were superb today.

The Norwegian league is currently ranked 26 of the 53 National Association in the latest Uefa Coefficient table whilst the Irish League (Republic) is ranked 43 and the Northern Ireland league 47th. So the Norwegian league is better than your giving it credit for there.

We have a huge challenge ahead of us to stay in this League but, in my opinion, the West Ham game will not define our season far more likely results through February and March as there are games which will give us an opportunity to go on a run of good results.

Having said that we currently have a 21% win rate and to get to the standard 40 point is safety mark we will need to win 38% of our remaining games, The big question is will it need 40 points to be safe and are there 3 worse teams than us.

History would tell us that Sunderland are doomed so are there two worse teams than us.

Gary, I love your facts

I have been to see Top Norwegian teams play Irish teams in Europe, both very very poor.

Reading your posts, you seem very worried as well about how were going to do for the remainder of the season.

First I see us dropping into the bottom three in January unless we beat West Ham and get a point at either Man City or Man Utd, once your in that bottom three it is very hard to get out as history shows.

Once again today Vincent Tan showed how much of a clown he is by wearing blue, is it sarcasm ? Is it a piss take ? Or is he giving us our identity back ? No chance on the third one.

Our debt, I reckon it could reach £180m come June 2014 unless he does what he stated 18 months ago that he would turn the debt to equity. I have been told that he intends to convert in February, let's hope it turns out to be true.

It is good to see we still got battling performances left in us but once again no quality up front and Whittingham is a waste of time.

Our new manager, of course we must all give him the full backing but I have massive doubts, worries and concerns about him, the Norwegian league is no better than the Irish league, no managerial experience in the English League, turned us down originally and is going straight into a managers job with a club struggling to survive in this league and with a lunatic of an owner behind him.

Of course this is my opinion and beliefs but a lot of facts with it, shoot me down but honestly I am very worried, West Ham is the most important game so far this season, it actually could define the season and yes I was proud of the players today, that's all I ask for is 100% and every player gave that today. Our fans once again were superb today.

Fully agree and it wasn't long ago a guy called Ståle Solbakken was the next best Norweigian manager to hit the English leagues and look what he done to Wolves!!!

This man is completely different to solbaken as ogs has learnt from probably the best manager ever

It's a shame to hear so much negativity but you do seem to look for it these days in anything that Tan does or even now wears it seems.

Any managerial appointment is a gamble but Malky was not up to it and we are where we are because of him asmuch as you would like to blame Tan for it. Hoddle, your preferred choice would have been just as much a gamble having been 7 years out of front-line football. OGS is someone who has been at the top Premiership football club, trained as a coach at that very club and has succeeded in turning an average football club into a double title winning club. We could have ended up with Jones, Sven or Ince ffs....I for one am pleased.

Any manager is a gamble, but not as big as one when you come from a very poor league.

Forget Tan on this as I know he will back him with £millions. Lets hope we get the right players and back room staff

It's a shame to hear so much negativity but you do seem to look for it these days in anything that Tan does or even now wears it seems.

Any managerial appointment is a gamble but Malky was not up to it and we are where we are because of him asmuch as you would like to blame Tan for it. Hoddle, your preferred choice would have been just as much a gamble having been 7 years out of front-line football. OGS is someone who has been at the top Premiership football club, trained as a coach at that very club and has succeeded in turning an average football club into a double title winning club. We could have ended up with Jones, Sven or Ince ffs....I for one am pleased.

Any manager is a gamble, but not as big as one when you come from a very poor league.

Forget Tan on this as I know he will back him with £millions. Lets hope we get the right players and back room staff

If he brings in mike phelan with him ,I think it would be great