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Re: Fellow S.A.D sufferers

Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:46 pm

Military Junta wrote:With all due respect Polo you really are un-educated about the subject of depression. Have you ever thought that people need to put a brave face on just to ensure that you don't bring others including family down with you..? And especially around Christmas time.

You seem to think that everyone who suffers from depression stay in their beds all day and to be honest if I was single and not working I probably would if when you have responsiblities then you can make things alot worse mentality. So rather than your comments maybe take time out and read upon the subject then you can make more informed comments.

I suffered from depression myself and took medication to get better so dont f*cking preach to me you clown.

Theres one thing putting on a brave face, theres another being an attention seeking, obnoxious tw*t like you.

Re: Fellow S.A.D sufferers

Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:49 pm

depression is one of the worst things anyone can have, ive had my fights with depression in the past got so bad I wouldn't leave my bed and would wake up constantly needing to throw up because I was just so anxious and scared of everything, thank god I aint been in a bad state of depression in the last 2 years, ive had depression in the last few years but nothing to stop be living and working like before

Re: Fellow S.A.D sufferers

Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:51 pm

Military Junta wrote:With all due respect Polo you really are un-educated about the subject of depression. Have you ever thought that people need to put a brave face on just to ensure that you don't bring others including family down with you..? And especially around Christmas time.

You seem to think that everyone who suffers from depression stay in their beds all day and to be honest if I was single and not working I probably would if when you have responsiblities then you can make things alot worse mentality. So rather than your comments maybe take time out and read upon the subject then you can make more informed comments.


to be honest you dont seem to know what your talking about either

putting on a brave face will make you worse as it will bring on more stress
worrying about your family more than yourself will make you worse as it will bring on more stress
worrying about christmas over getting better will make yourself worse

either stop talking bollocks or get a better doctor

Re: Fellow S.A.D sufferers

Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:56 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:With all due respect Polo you really are un-educated about the subject of depression. Have you ever thought that people need to put a brave face on just to ensure that you don't bring others including family down with you..? And especially around Christmas time.

You seem to think that everyone who suffers from depression stay in their beds all day and to be honest if I was single and not working I probably would if when you have responsiblities then you can make things alot worse mentality. So rather than your comments maybe take time out and read upon the subject then you can make more informed comments.


to be honest you dont seem to know what your talking about either

putting on a brave face will make you worse as it will bring on more stress
worrying about your family more than yourself will make you worse as it will bring on more stress
worrying about christmas over getting better will make yourself worse


either stop talking bollocks or get a better doctor


Is that not I meant then because you have to do it

Re: Fellow S.A.D sufferers

Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:59 pm

Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:With all due respect Polo you really are un-educated about the subject of depression. Have you ever thought that people need to put a brave face on just to ensure that you don't bring others including family down with you..? And especially around Christmas time.

You seem to think that everyone who suffers from depression stay in their beds all day and to be honest if I was single and not working I probably would if when you have responsiblities then you can make things alot worse mentality. So rather than your comments maybe take time out and read upon the subject then you can make more informed comments.


to be honest you dont seem to know what your talking about either

putting on a brave face will make you worse as it will bring on more stress
worrying about your family more than yourself will make you worse as it will bring on more stress
worrying about christmas over getting better will make yourself worse


either stop talking bollocks or get a better doctor


Is that not I meant then because you have to do it


no you dont youre ill your one priority would be to get better

any other illness you would concentrate on getting better why not this one

Re: Fellow S.A.D sufferers

Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:03 pm

plus I know your talking bollocks because you neglected to mention SAD when you were trying to join the RAF or did you ask them nicely you could only operate in hot areas and you would need a lot of time off in the winter

Re: Fellow S.A.D sufferers

Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:11 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:plus I know your talking bollocks because you neglected to mention SAD when you were trying to join the RAF or did you ask them nicely you could only operate in hot areas and you would need a lot of time off in the winter


Did you check my application then and you obviously haven't seen my medical records then have you as there clearly shows a record of depression on there. So do yourself a favour and rather than assuming then maybe you should come back with facts.

Re: Fellow S.A.D sufferers

Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:13 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:With all due respect Polo you really are un-educated about the subject of depression. Have you ever thought that people need to put a brave face on just to ensure that you don't bring others including family down with you..? And especially around Christmas time.

You seem to think that everyone who suffers from depression stay in their beds all day and to be honest if I was single and not working I probably would if when you have responsiblities then you can make things alot worse mentality. So rather than your comments maybe take time out and read upon the subject then you can make more informed comments.


to be honest you dont seem to know what your talking about either

putting on a brave face will make you worse as it will bring on more stress
worrying about your family more than yourself will make you worse as it will bring on more stress
worrying about christmas over getting better will make yourself worse


either stop talking bollocks or get a better doctor


Is that not I meant then because you have to do it


no you dont youre ill your one priority would be to get better

any other illness you would concentrate on getting better why not this one


because I normally go away at this time of year which helps due to the additional sunlight. Do you not know what this actually is or are you just making anti-adam brown comments for the sake of it..?

Re: Fellow S.A.D sufferers

Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:14 pm

Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:plus I know your talking bollocks because you neglected to mention SAD when you were trying to join the RAF or did you ask them nicely you could only operate in hot areas and you would need a lot of time off in the winter


Did you check my application then and you obviously haven't seen my medical records then have you as there clearly shows a record of depression on there. So do yourself a favour and rather than assuming then maybe you should come back with facts.


so trying to join up was a complete waste of time then

Re: Fellow S.A.D sufferers

Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:17 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:plus I know your talking bollocks because you neglected to mention SAD when you were trying to join the RAF or did you ask them nicely you could only operate in hot areas and you would need a lot of time off in the winter


Did you check my application then and you obviously haven't seen my medical records then have you as there clearly shows a record of depression on there. So do yourself a favour and rather than assuming then maybe you should come back with facts.


so trying to join up was a complete waste of time then


No not at all because I passed the medical stage so your next assumption is..?

Re: Fellow S.A.D sufferers

Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:19 pm

Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:plus I know your talking bollocks because you neglected to mention SAD when you were trying to join the RAF or did you ask them nicely you could only operate in hot areas and you would need a lot of time off in the winter


Did you check my application then and you obviously haven't seen my medical records then have you as there clearly shows a record of depression on there. So do yourself a favour and rather than assuming then maybe you should come back with facts.


so trying to join up was a complete waste of time then


No not at all because I passed the medical stage so your next assumption is..?


no you wouldnt have

Re: Fellow S.A.D sufferers

Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:20 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:plus I know your talking bollocks because you neglected to mention SAD when you were trying to join the RAF or did you ask them nicely you could only operate in hot areas and you would need a lot of time off in the winter


Did you check my application then and you obviously haven't seen my medical records then have you as there clearly shows a record of depression on there. So do yourself a favour and rather than assuming then maybe you should come back with facts.


so trying to join up was a complete waste of time then


No not at all because I passed the medical stage so your next assumption is..?


no you wouldnt have


Sorry do you have personal experience of the application process then..?

Re: Fellow S.A.D sufferers

Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:21 pm

Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:plus I know your talking bollocks because you neglected to mention SAD when you were trying to join the RAF or did you ask them nicely you could only operate in hot areas and you would need a lot of time off in the winter


Did you check my application then and you obviously haven't seen my medical records then have you as there clearly shows a record of depression on there. So do yourself a favour and rather than assuming then maybe you should come back with facts.


so trying to join up was a complete waste of time then


No not at all because I passed the medical stage so your next assumption is..?


no you wouldnt have


Sorry do you have personal experience of the application process then..?


yes

Re: Fellow S.A.D sufferers

Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:22 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:plus I know your talking bollocks because you neglected to mention SAD when you were trying to join the RAF or did you ask them nicely you could only operate in hot areas and you would need a lot of time off in the winter


Did you check my application then and you obviously haven't seen my medical records then have you as there clearly shows a record of depression on there. So do yourself a favour and rather than assuming then maybe you should come back with facts.


so trying to join up was a complete waste of time then


No not at all because I passed the medical stage so your next assumption is..?


no you wouldnt have


Sorry do you have personal experience of the application process then..?


yes


So when did you do it..?

Re: Fellow S.A.D sufferers

Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:27 pm

Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:plus I know your talking bollocks because you neglected to mention SAD when you were trying to join the RAF or did you ask them nicely you could only operate in hot areas and you would need a lot of time off in the winter


Did you check my application then and you obviously haven't seen my medical records then have you as there clearly shows a record of depression on there. So do yourself a favour and rather than assuming then maybe you should come back with facts.


so trying to join up was a complete waste of time then


No not at all because I passed the medical stage so your next assumption is..?


no you wouldnt have


Sorry do you have personal experience of the application process then..?


yes


So when did you do it..?


whats that got to do with anything

medical bars for entry in the armed services

no more than 2 acute depressive episodes with treatment lasting no more than 12 weeks

if you have in fact got SAD you would suffer every year recording far more than 2 episodes and it wouldnt be acute it will be endogenous depression which would rule you out altogether

Re: Fellow S.A.D sufferers

Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:29 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:plus I know your talking bollocks because you neglected to mention SAD when you were trying to join the RAF or did you ask them nicely you could only operate in hot areas and you would need a lot of time off in the winter


Did you check my application then and you obviously haven't seen my medical records then have you as there clearly shows a record of depression on there. So do yourself a favour and rather than assuming then maybe you should come back with facts.


so trying to join up was a complete waste of time then


No not at all because I passed the medical stage so your next assumption is..?


no you wouldnt have


Sorry do you have personal experience of the application process then..?


yes


So when did you do it..?


whats that got to do with anything

medical bars for entry in the armed services

no more than 2 acute depressive episodes with treatment lasting no more than 12 weeks

if you have in fact got SAD you would suffer every year recording far more than 2 episodes and it wouldnt be acute it will be endogenous depression which would rule you out altogether


So you have no personal experience of it then!!!! :lol: I'm starting another application Johnny in March so maybe I will photocopy everything for your acceptance this time around. lol

Re: Fellow S.A.D sufferers

Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:35 pm

Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:plus I know your talking bollocks because you neglected to mention SAD when you were trying to join the RAF or did you ask them nicely you could only operate in hot areas and you would need a lot of time off in the winter


Did you check my application then and you obviously haven't seen my medical records then have you as there clearly shows a record of depression on there. So do yourself a favour and rather than assuming then maybe you should come back with facts.


so trying to join up was a complete waste of time then


No not at all because I passed the medical stage so your next assumption is..?


no you wouldnt have


Sorry do you have personal experience of the application process then..?


yes


So when did you do it..?


whats that got to do with anything

medical bars for entry in the armed services

no more than 2 acute depressive episodes with treatment lasting no more than 12 weeks

if you have in fact got SAD you would suffer every year recording far more than 2 episodes and it wouldnt be acute it will be endogenous depression which would rule you out altogether


So you have no personal experience of it then!!!! :lol: I'm starting another application Johnny in March so maybe I will photocopy everything for your acceptance this time around. lol


more experience than you know

depression being my biggest bug bear resulting in a year long battle with the MOD trying to convince them there is nothing wrong with me, ive written letters to my MP the Prime MInister even the Surgeon General. I drove my GP insane asking constant questions on have you missed something have you diagnosed me wrong, what is wrong with me.

so yes by all means post your application and give me all your information it would be a great help in my case

Re: Fellow S.A.D sufferers

Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:48 pm

So you are still in a battle with the MOD then Johnny are you..? How old are you then Johnny and with all due respect your liberial views on life would never have put you down as someone who would want to go into the forces especially as you have criticised the forces for focusing on unemployment black spots to recruit from in the past

Re: Fellow S.A.D sufferers

Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:53 pm

Military Junta wrote:So you are still in a battle with the MOD then Johnny are you..? How old are you then Johnny and with all due respect your liberial views on life would never have put you down as someone who would want to go into the forces especially as you have criticised the forces for focusing on unemployment black spots to recruit from in the past


all of that is none of your business and doesnt seem to explain the reasons why your granted special dispensation as your medical records clearly show a history of depression same as mine I presume so what makes you different?

No im not in battle with the MOD anymore because I won :D though if you seem to get in automatically its very interesting maybe I should look at your case and sue the MOD for slander or medical discrimination

Re: Fellow S.A.D sufferers

Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:56 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:So you are still in a battle with the MOD then Johnny are you..? How old are you then Johnny and with all due respect your liberial views on life would never have put you down as someone who would want to go into the forces especially as you have criticised the forces for focusing on unemployment black spots to recruit from in the past


all of that is none of your business and doesnt seem to explain the reasons why your granted special dispensation as your medical records clearly show a history of depression same as mine I presume so what makes you different?

No im not in battle with the MOD anymore because I won :D though if you seem to get in automatically its very interesting maybe I should look at your case and sue the MOD for slander or medical discrimination


Maybe because I was going for ther reserves and you may not have been..? Maybe different times..? I'm sure there can be alot of different reasons but because you wont answer my questions I'm sure there could be alot of reasons.

Re: Fellow S.A.D sufferers

Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:04 pm

Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:So you are still in a battle with the MOD then Johnny are you..? How old are you then Johnny and with all due respect your liberial views on life would never have put you down as someone who would want to go into the forces especially as you have criticised the forces for focusing on unemployment black spots to recruit from in the past


all of that is none of your business and doesnt seem to explain the reasons why your granted special dispensation as your medical records clearly show a history of depression same as mine I presume so what makes you different?

No im not in battle with the MOD anymore because I won :D though if you seem to get in automatically its very interesting maybe I should look at your case and sue the MOD for slander or medical discrimination


Maybe because I was going for ther reserves and you may not have been..? Maybe different times..? I'm sure there can be alot of different reasons but because you wont answer my questions I'm sure there could be alot of reasons.


nah whether you join the reserves or full time makes no difference to medical requirements

why would I want to answer your questions?

are you a doctor? no, mind you neither am I but I have had direct experience and the blatant discrimination the MOD threw at me and the several hoops I had to jump through.

my experiences are none of your business but I do now know the medical selection back to front because ive had to

to be honest id rather not talk about this because as a guy who has suffered from depression I would have thought you would have a bit more sympathy clearly not

Re: Fellow S.A.D sufferers

Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:07 pm

This thread is so depressing.

Re: Fellow S.A.D sufferers

Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:09 pm

Sorry Johnny but times change and with you not even willing to age your age it clearly shows that you understand that too.

Stop trying to pick holes in my statements just to make yourself feel good.

Re: Fellow S.A.D sufferers

Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:11 pm

Military Junta wrote:Sorry Johnny but times change and with you not even willing to age your age it clearly shows that you understand that too.

Stop trying to pick holes in my statements just to make yourself feel good.


this all started 3 years ago times havent changed that much

Re: Fellow S.A.D sufferers

Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:13 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:
nah whether you join the reserves or full time makes no difference to medical requirements

why would I want to answer your questions?

are you a doctor? no, mind you neither am I but I have had direct experience and the blatant discrimination the MOD threw at me and the several hoops I had to jump through.

my experiences are none of your business but I do now know the medical selection back to front because ive had to

to be honest id rather not talk about this because as a guy who has suffered from depression I would have thought you would have a bit more sympathy clearly not


You seem quite clued up on this Jonny and a reasonably sensible poster judging by your use of grammar, letter capitalisation aside, and spelling. I'd like to ask you a question in regards to depression. Has the fact you've been diagnosed with depression ever come to haunt you when seeking employment later in life or have you had to explain it to most employers who've run background checks on you? Im asking as a friend of mine is currently depressed but refuses to seek help as it may stop her working for MI5 as an investigator.

Kind regards.

TU.

Re: Fellow S.A.D sufferers

Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:13 pm

Social anxiety is literally crippling. I would say being sad over little sun light is not as serious. Then again, I don't know.

Re: Fellow S.A.D sufferers

Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:15 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Sorry Johnny but times change and with you not even willing to age your age it clearly shows that you understand that too.

Stop trying to pick holes in my statements just to make yourself feel good.


this all started 3 years ago times havent changed that much


so how old are you then Johnny and bearing in mind that you have been a liberial for all the years you've posted on here forgive me if I say that its bollox that you tried to join the forces 3 years ago. It was around 3 years ago you stated your dislike of the forces recuiting from less well off areas of the country!!!

Re: Fellow S.A.D sufferers

Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:19 pm

Military Junta wrote:I must admit that this year is the worst its been for me.

Anyone else getting it worse this year than ever before..?

when me and my ex split up in nov 2001 i had it bad in january 2002 and every january [only that month for some strange reason] for the next 2 years .... my mother bought me some herbal tablets called Rhodeloa and i took them the next year and it did the trick for me .... i still hate january though :lol:

Re: Fellow S.A.D sufferers

Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:24 pm

Tan's Unicorn wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
nah whether you join the reserves or full time makes no difference to medical requirements

why would I want to answer your questions?

are you a doctor? no, mind you neither am I but I have had direct experience and the blatant discrimination the MOD threw at me and the several hoops I had to jump through.

my experiences are none of your business but I do now know the medical selection back to front because ive had to

to be honest id rather not talk about this because as a guy who has suffered from depression I would have thought you would have a bit more sympathy clearly not


You seem quite clued up on this Jonny and a reasonably sensible poster judging by your use of grammar, letter capitalisation aside, and spelling. I'd like to ask you a question in regards to depression. Has the fact you've been diagnosed with depression ever come to haunt you when seeking employment later in life or have you had to explain it to most employers who've run background checks on you? Im asking as a friend of mine is currently depressed but refuses to seek help as it may stop her working for MI5 as an investigator.

Kind regards.

TU.


To be honest I dont mention it when it comes to jobs there is nothing wrong with me anymore so there is no need to tell them

trying to join the military has been hard been ive won eventually, all ive got to face now is if it ever comes out ive been depressed the question is as to the amount of bullying I will face by my colleagues as ive already received a fair whack being told that people would refuse to serve with me.

as the intelligence services I have no idea never tried to join so dont know it may stop her it may not, I would say get help as her health is far more important than a job

one piece of advice is find out if MI5 is signed up to the discrimination act or the equality act as its now called if MI5 have to adhere to it they need to present a genuine reason to why she could not perform her duties before they dismiss her and depending on what type of depression she has she will be able to fight it and win

contact the equality and human rights commission they were a great help to me

Re: Fellow S.A.D sufferers

Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:28 pm

Sorry Johnny but thats bollox