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Re: " Could we crash or get stronger ? "

Fri Dec 27, 2013 4:55 pm

I fear crash and burn I am afraid :old:

Re: " Could we crash or get stronger ? "

Fri Dec 27, 2013 4:55 pm

1899 wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Bluemellons wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Cos 65m in 2 seasons isnt proper backing???


Not to get to the Premier League and survive, no.Its peanuts. Anyway If you read my post I said not in a monetary way. I'm talking about the constant undermining, the telling him to pick players, going in the dressing room and upsetting the players and ultimately telling him to resign or be sacked. Really helpful. :(

Rebrand aside, Tan is no different to most other prem owners. Its just been played out in public.


You are right, a painter and decorator could get the post of Head of Recruitment at loads of clubs :roll:

That was just undermining Malky. You dont think he had any power do you?

Re: " Could we crash or get stronger ? "

Fri Dec 27, 2013 4:59 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:
1899 wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Bluemellons wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Cos 65m in 2 seasons isnt proper backing???


Not to get to the Premier League and survive, no.Its peanuts. Anyway If you read my post I said not in a monetary way. I'm talking about the constant undermining, the telling him to pick players, going in the dressing room and upsetting the players and ultimately telling him to resign or be sacked. Really helpful. :(

Rebrand aside, Tan is no different to most other prem owners. Its just been played out in public.


You are right, a painter and decorator could get the post of Head of Recruitment at loads of clubs :roll:

That was just undermining Malky. You dont think he had any power do you?


You are right, loads of owners spend the season just undermining their manager :roll:

Re: " Could we crash or get stronger ? "

Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:01 pm

Tan will back the new manager in the transfer window as he won't want to lose face,I believe we will go forward.

Re: " Could we crash or get stronger ? "

Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:01 pm

JamesC wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Bluemellons wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Cos 65m in 2 seasons isnt proper backing???


Not to get to the Premier League and survive, no.Its peanuts. Anyway If you read my post I said not in a monetary way. I'm talking about the constant undermining, the telling him to pick players, going in the dressing room and upsetting the players and ultimately telling him to resign or be sacked. Really helpful. :(

Rebrand aside, Tan is no different to most other prem owners. Its just been played out in public.


Yes he is,

He bought and rebranded the club,
flaunts himself in the media
HUGELY egotistical
No understanding of the game or the business he's in

He isn't like other owners at all


What about hull? Blackburn? Wolves?Birmingham? Lots more out there!! :thumbright:

Re: " Could we crash or get stronger ? "

Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:03 pm

We'l be fine every player will be fairly judged and given a chance that in itself is like having a new squad.

we now have a chance to buy players and assemble a stronger side whilest teams around us prob wont have much cash

Re: " Could we crash or get stronger ? "

Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:04 pm

1899 wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
1899 wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Bluemellons wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Cos 65m in 2 seasons isnt proper backing???


Not to get to the Premier League and survive, no.Its peanuts. Anyway If you read my post I said not in a monetary way. I'm talking about the constant undermining, the telling him to pick players, going in the dressing room and upsetting the players and ultimately telling him to resign or be sacked. Really helpful. :(

Rebrand aside, Tan is no different to most other prem owners. Its just been played out in public.


You are right, a painter and decorator could get the post of Head of Recruitment at loads of clubs :roll:

That was just undermining Malky. You dont think he had any power do you?


You are right, loads of owners spend the season just undermining their manager :roll:

They do when they want them to quit

Re: " Could we crash or get stronger ? "

Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:06 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:
1899 wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
1899 wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Bluemellons wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Cos 65m in 2 seasons isnt proper backing???


Not to get to the Premier League and survive, no.Its peanuts. Anyway If you read my post I said not in a monetary way. I'm talking about the constant undermining, the telling him to pick players, going in the dressing room and upsetting the players and ultimately telling him to resign or be sacked. Really helpful. :(

Rebrand aside, Tan is no different to most other prem owners. Its just been played out in public.


You are right, a painter and decorator could get the post of Head of Recruitment at loads of clubs :roll:

That was just undermining Malky. You dont think he had any power do you?


You are right, loads of owners spend the season just undermining their manager :roll:

They do when they want them to quit

And thats the problem :malky:

Re: " Could we crash or get stronger ? "

Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:10 pm

Wear blue and don't renew your season ticket for next season unless we are in blue

Re: " Could we crash or get stronger ? "

Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:14 pm

Forever Blue wrote:With Vincen Tan in total control of everything and with his football Knowledge & his £Millions etc

A question for everyone

Could we get stronger and rise in the Premier League?

or Crash down two Leagues like many other ex Premier Clubs have?



Much much stronger, he wants European football, he needs to take stock and appoint the right manager and invest in January and massively at the end of the season.

Southampton are looking miles better after sacking nice man Adkins, Onwards and Upwards :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: " Could we crash or get stronger ? "

Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:32 pm

Bluebina wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:With Vincen Tan in total control of everything and with his football Knowledge & his £Millions etc

A question for everyone

Could we get stronger and rise in the Premier League?

or Crash down two Leagues like many other ex Premier Clubs have?



Much much stronger, he wants European football, he needs to take stock and appoint the right manager and invest in January and massively at the end of the season.

Southampton are looking miles better after sacking nice man Adkins, Onwards and Upwards :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:



It obviously depends on this appointment, its a massive one as there is only eight points from Tenth to twentieth, so ten teams are in a half season relegation battle !!!!

Re: " Could we crash or get stronger ? "

Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:38 pm

This whole season is mental. Its like nothing I've ever seen in nearly 40 years of watching City........and interestingly, for all their bragging and seemingly 'brilliant,total football', the Jacks are also in the shite. Relegation could happen to any of the bottom half.
Weird. :roll:

Re: " Could we crash or get stronger ? "

Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:42 pm

Forever Blue wrote:With Vincen Tan in total control of everything and with his football Knowledge & his £Millions etc

A question for everyone

Could we get stronger and rise in the Premier League?

or Crash down two Leagues like many other ex Premier Clubs have?


Either. Tan is a money man, who knows nothing about football. It's hit and miss.

Re: " Could we crash or get stronger ? "

Fri Dec 27, 2013 6:01 pm

Bluemellons wrote:This whole season is mental. Its like nothing I've ever seen in nearly 40 years of watching City........and interestingly, for all their bragging and seemingly 'brilliant,total football', the Jacks are also in the shite. Relegation could happen to any of the bottom half.
Weird. :roll:




Definitely mate there are ten of us in it, we had to act !!!

Re: " Could we crash or get stronger ? "

Fri Dec 27, 2013 6:04 pm

Let's just watch and find out. Get behind the next manager and the players and support the team. If a director of football comes in, I think that will help the new manager and improve communication from the top to the bottom of the club. So stronger for me. :thumbup:

Re: " Could we crash or get stronger ? "

Fri Dec 27, 2013 6:14 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:Cos 65m in 2 seasons isnt proper backing???


And what do you benefit if you gain the whole world but lose your own soul?

Most people who think it is worth it, weren't there when the club was in the lower leagues.

Re: " Could we crash or get stronger ? "

Fri Dec 27, 2013 6:18 pm

It could honestly go either way. It's awkward whichever way I look at it, because...

If the team hit the ground running tomorrow and win comfortably, a new manager takes over and has us playing better football and keeps us in the Prem (like Southampton have done), I'll be happy for the team but it'll look like a victory for Tan and people will say he made the right choice; he won't be going anywhere if this happens.

I will always be behind the team and part of me thinks we should get behind whoever is brought in, because the team always comes first. However, the way VT has gone about things has left a sour taste in the mouth - the rebrand, the Moody saga, and the way he has treated Malky.

For this reason, there is also a part of me that isn't bothered if we get relegated and VT fucks off, because I want our identity back too.

Re: " Could we crash or get stronger ? "

Fri Dec 27, 2013 6:19 pm

xajax wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Cos 65m in 2 seasons isnt proper backing???


And what do you benefit if you gain the whole world but lose your own soul?

Most people who think it is worth it, weren't there when the club was in the lower leagues.


what :?

Re: " Could we crash or get stronger ? "

Fri Dec 27, 2013 6:20 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:Cos 65m in 2 seasons isnt proper backing???

£65m? f**k me it just keeps rising :lol:

Re: " Could we crash or get stronger ? "

Fri Dec 27, 2013 6:29 pm

CantonJack wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Cos 65m in 2 seasons isnt proper backing???

£65m? f**k me it just keeps rising :lol:


£50m this season and £12m last season.

so, apologies, £62m

Re: " Could we crash or get stronger ? "

Fri Dec 27, 2013 6:31 pm

Managers come and go - MM has gone. He had done a great job toget us up - diolch yn fawr. BUT
In my view he was struggling badly this year and some of the tactics and team selections were very odd. I think we would have gone down under MM. Therefore I dont think we will do worse.
I think the new manager will be a decent choice (ie not an off thewall one). If it works we will be stronger and if it doesnt we will be inthe same plight as if MM stayed - relegated.
Whoever is the new manager we must get 100 percent behind him. We have 3 away games coming up where we would have got NIL points under MM. Therefore we need to be PATIENT and not immediately get on Tans,the players, and the new managers backs.
It would be a great statement by Tan if he brought back the blue but that is prob just dreaming ...... :ayatollah:

Re: " Could we crash or get stronger ? "

Fri Dec 27, 2013 6:38 pm

I'll be there Pink, Blue, Red or Orange,.......... Premier, Championship or Second division, ......Hamman , Risdale or Tan because Cardiff City are my team, unlike some people with ulterior motives / agendas I am not in it to make money indirectly from my football club. :roll:.

Re: " Could we crash or get stronger ? "

Fri Dec 27, 2013 7:10 pm

Tan Isn't going anywhere...

You would be Naive to think otherwise...

Re: " Could we crash or get stronger ? "

Fri Dec 27, 2013 7:29 pm

Annjis 1 thing for certain if we crashed and went down 5 leagues, the likes of us will still be there. I remember seeing u up in Carlisle only about 50 Cardiff there :ayatollah:

Re: " Could we crash or get stronger ? "

Fri Dec 27, 2013 8:43 pm

Money talks, bullshit walks.

Tan will throw another 15-20 mill at us and expect European football. It's that simple.

As for whom is next in line...... Ole Gunner most likely.

If not Borat. Either way January looks like an interesting month.

City on sky tomorrow. Good for us exiles.

Re: " Could we crash or get stronger ? "

Fri Dec 27, 2013 8:48 pm

The good thing to come out of this, is we've shown the youngsters what solidarity means! Its not all about the good times, it's about being there when nobody else is. Not leaving early. Being there for the team. Being a supporter. Being a Bluebird!

Re: " Could we crash or get stronger ? "

Fri Dec 27, 2013 8:50 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Dahboy wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:With Vincen Tan in total control of everything and with his football Knowledge & his £Millions etc

A question for everyone

Could we get stronger and rise in the Premier League?

or Crash down two Leagues like many other ex Premier Clubs have?

Annis we needed the change lets not look back now onwards and upwards.


Its a question and a debate

We do need a change TAN OUT :thumbup:


Do you agree with the sacking annis do u think we needed a new manager?


Onwards & Upwards :ayatollah:

Re: " Could we crash or get stronger ? "

Fri Dec 27, 2013 10:32 pm

johnnybbird wrote:The good thing to come out of this, is we've shown the youngsters what solidarity means! Its not all about the good times, it's about being there when nobody else is. Not leaving early. Being there for the team. Being a supporter. Being a Bluebird!


Umphhhhh :knob: