Lets say I run a chain of pine shops

What a bizarre post!

You post questions to members, but get abusive if you don't get the answers you want?



If you aren't trying to compare a football club to a pine shop - what the hell are you going on about?!

Thats where Tan is being naive and as such losing credibility.

As you say any other business and hes probably in the right. Not going about it in the right way but ive no doubt in his own head hes 100% right.

Footballs different. For some reason even though its a bilionaire industry its not controlled by billionaires its controlled ny 50-100k a year journalists.

AVB was earning that a week but as soon as he took them on there was only one outcome.

Its slghtly different with owners as they cant just be sacked. However you only have to look ay Blackburn to see how powerful the media can be if they got it in for you.

I cant see how he can get out of this unscathed and the sooner he and Malky move on the better.

Ideally new owner, new manager but easier said than done.

Your right polo the journalists smell blood.
The best time for tan to sack malky was after the palace game,you'd have had a fraction of the protesting you have now and by now it would've been over with.

It's fairly important -if you can -to keep your cool and remain rational as others around you lose their heads.Malky seems to do this well but he wouldn't be a football manager if he couldn't.

Anyway,
lets say I'm a Chinaman by the name of Whu Fuk Doris Day and amongst other interests I run a chain of pine shops which I took over shortly before it went bust. I'm viewed as a saviour and have loads of bucks.I turn out to be a ruthless b*stard but aren't we all.
I appoint a new but relatively inexperienced ops director who brings in new staff and sorts things out. Sales are up and the business expands. The od agrees a business plan with me and the sales targets are achieved leading to further expansion.All is wonderful and I have my photo taken with the od and there is the odd party.
Then things slowly turn sour.
I invest millions more with new targets agreed with a view to a stock market flotation and the pressure is on the od, which he knows and accepts as part of his job like anyone else in his role.But he starts to clash with me. His chief buyer fucks up on his budgets - at least thats how I see it and he is fired.Sales targets aren't met and the style of merchandising is not pleasing. Things are only just above water. I can't see an improvement coming.The year end targets and flotation are at risk.Issues grow and I lose confidence in the od.I can't risk committing further funds.All business people recognise such a state of affairs is terminal and things must change.
I decide there is too much money-and the business - at risk and that the od has to go as I can make a change now before it's too late. Od rallies some fellow od's and customers who kick up a major fuss and there is bad publicity.Od leaks info and makes a fight of it.......contracts blah blah..he's a nice guy, fine and upstanding and all that ... but this is business. The vast majority of disgruntled customers will come round in the end, and most of them very quickly.
I have a new experienced od in the wings who I will back with investment and who I am confident will meet the targets and ensure the success of the flotation.

Whu Fuk has to make a decision.

If you were Whu Fuk what would you do? (in considering your answer the situation has nothing to do with football and your football club)


p.s. No agenda here just trying to introduce some rationality.

See that is the problem....

Not many on this forum have a business mind! To me the above is common sense, I've always agreed with tan, nothing personal against MM I'm sure he is a lovely bloke but in business you need to make rational decisions.. I believe MM will be gone tomorrow and tan will surprise us with his replacement, after all Mr Tan wants the team to survive as well as we do...

What a bizarre post!

You post questions to members, but get abusive if you don't get the answers you want?



If you aren't trying to compare a football club to a pine shop - what the hell are you going on about?!

Is the correct answer

Your right polo the journalists smell blood.
The best time for tan to sack malky was after the palace game,you'd have had a fraction of the protesting you have now and by now it would've been over with.

because of the rebrand the timing is never going to be right.

The media are into him. I see no way out of this for Tan tbh.

It's fairly important -if you can -to keep your cool and remain rational as others around you lose their heads.Malky seems to do this well but he wouldn't be a football manager if he couldn't.

Anyway,
lets say I'm a Chinaman by the name of Whu Fuk Doris Day and amongst other interests I run a chain of pine shops which I took over shortly before it went bust. I'm viewed as a saviour and have loads of bucks.I turn out to be a ruthless b*stard but aren't we all.
I appoint a new but relatively inexperienced ops director who brings in new staff and sorts things out. Sales are up and the business expands. The od agrees a business plan with me and the sales targets are achieved leading to further expansion.All is wonderful and I have my photo taken with the od and there is the odd party.
Then things slowly turn sour.
I invest millions more with new targets agreed with a view to a stock market flotation and the pressure is on the od, which he knows and accepts as part of his job like anyone else in his role.But he starts to clash with me. His chief buyer fucks up on his budgets - at least thats how I see it and he is fired.Sales targets aren't met and the style of merchandising is not pleasing. Things are only just above water. I can't see an improvement coming.The year end targets and flotation are at risk.Issues grow and I lose confidence in the od.I can't risk committing further funds.All business people recognise such a state of affairs is terminal and things must change.
I decide there is too much money-and the business - at risk and that the od has to go as I can make a change now before it's too late. Od rallies some fellow od's and customers who kick up a major fuss and there is bad publicity.Od leaks info and makes a fight of it.......contracts blah blah..he's a nice guy, fine and upstanding and all that ... but this is business. The vast majority of disgruntled customers will come round in the end, and most of them very quickly.
I have a new experienced od in the wings who I will back with investment and who I am confident will meet the targets and ensure the success of the flotation.

Whu Fuk has to make a decision.

If you were Whu Fuk what would you do? (in considering your answer the situation has nothing to do with football and your football club)


p.s. No agenda here just trying to introduce some rationality.

See that is the problem....

Not many on this forum have a business mind! To me the above is common sense, I've always agreed with tan, nothing personal against MM I'm sure he is a lovely bloke but in business you need to make rational decisions.. I believe MM will be gone tomorrow and tan will surprise us with his replacement, after all Mr Tan wants the team to survive as well as we do...

Having a business mind allows you to differentiate between businesses in certain fields - which is the clear error with this thread (and he knows it which is why he ran off after abusing anyone who pointed it out) .

The above would make sense if he were strictly talking about a "pine shop", its common sense, in fact. However he is not talking strictly about a pine shop regardless of the text, he is alluding to the fact that whatever answer you give then applies to the situation at Cardiff City. Anyone with a business mind will tell you it does not.

It's fairly important -if you can -to keep your cool and remain rational as others around you lose their heads.Malky seems to do this well but he wouldn't be a football manager if he couldn't.

Anyway,
lets say I'm a Chinaman by the name of Whu Fuk Doris Day and amongst other interests I run a chain of pine shops which I took over shortly before it went bust. I'm viewed as a saviour and have loads of bucks.I turn out to be a ruthless b*stard but aren't we all.
I appoint a new but relatively inexperienced ops director who brings in new staff and sorts things out. Sales are up and the business expands. The od agrees a business plan with me and the sales targets are achieved leading to further expansion.All is wonderful and I have my photo taken with the od and there is the odd party.
Then things slowly turn sour.
I invest millions more with new targets agreed with a view to a stock market flotation and the pressure is on the od, which he knows and accepts as part of his job like anyone else in his role.But he starts to clash with me. His chief buyer fucks up on his budgets - at least thats how I see it and he is fired.Sales targets aren't met and the style of merchandising is not pleasing. Things are only just above water. I can't see an improvement coming.The year end targets and flotation are at risk.Issues grow and I lose confidence in the od.I can't risk committing further funds.All business people recognise such a state of affairs is terminal and things must change.
I decide there is too much money-and the business - at risk and that the od has to go as I can make a change now before it's too late. Od rallies some fellow od's and customers who kick up a major fuss and there is bad publicity.Od leaks info and makes a fight of it.......contracts blah blah..he's a nice guy, fine and upstanding and all that ... but this is business. The vast majority of disgruntled customers will come round in the end, and most of them very quickly.
I have a new experienced od in the wings who I will back with investment and who I am confident will meet the targets and ensure the success of the flotation.

Whu Fuk has to make a decision.

If you were Whu Fuk what would you do? (in considering your answer the situation has nothing to do with football and your football club)


p.s. No agenda here just trying to introduce some rationality.

You failed to mention that you made the customers hate you after a few months

I believe MM will be gone tomorrow and tan will surprise us with his replacement, after all Mr Tan wants the team to survive as well as we do...

So what about this bit? Or are you also on the mole patrol, blinded by the MM punch and the Tan rebrand...?

It's fairly important -if you can -to keep your cool and remain rational as others around you lose their heads.Malky seems to do this well but he wouldn't be a football manager if he couldn't.

Anyway,
lets say I'm a Chinaman by the name of Whu Fuk Doris Day and amongst other interests I run a chain of pine shops which I took over shortly before it went bust. I'm viewed as a saviour and have loads of bucks.I turn out to be a ruthless b*stard but aren't we all.
I appoint a new but relatively inexperienced ops director who brings in new staff and sorts things out. Sales are up and the business expands. The od agrees a business plan with me and the sales targets are achieved leading to further expansion.All is wonderful and I have my photo taken with the od and there is the odd party.
Then things slowly turn sour.
I invest millions more with new targets agreed with a view to a stock market flotation and the pressure is on the od, which he knows and accepts as part of his job like anyone else in his role.But he starts to clash with me. His chief buyer fucks up on his budgets - at least thats how I see it and he is fired.Sales targets aren't met and the style of merchandising is not pleasing. Things are only just above water. I can't see an improvement coming.The year end targets and flotation are at risk.Issues grow and I lose confidence in the od.I can't risk committing further funds.All business people recognise such a state of affairs is terminal and things must change.
I decide there is too much money-and the business - at risk and that the od has to go as I can make a change now before it's too late. Od rallies some fellow od's and customers who kick up a major fuss and there is bad publicity.Od leaks info and makes a fight of it.......contracts blah blah..he's a nice guy, fine and upstanding and all that ... but this is business. The vast majority of disgruntled customers will come round in the end, and most of them very quickly.
I have a new experienced od in the wings who I will back with investment and who I am confident will meet the targets and ensure the success of the flotation.

Whu Fuk has to make a decision.

If you were Whu Fuk what would you do? (in considering your answer the situation has nothing to do with football and your football club)


p.s. No agenda here just trying to introduce some rationality.

See your point and your spot on!