Grow a pair FFS!

we are premier league getting sell out crowds every game nearly debt free the ground is being extended we are buying 10 million pound players why???

Debt free..............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

Yet are now turning on Tan for not lending you more than £50m (yep FIFTY) to spend on players.

Way to get your debt back

Stop taking such a defeatist attitude. There's certain to be more like minded supporters than you think. Most on here seem to want the madman out. That's a good starting point isn't it??

Stop taking such a defeatist attitude. There's certain to be more like minded supporters than you think. Most on here seem to want the madman out. That's a good starting point isn't it??

Most on here are true cardiff fans. Most in the stadium ain't.

Stop taking such a defeatist attitude. There's certain to be more like minded supporters than you think. Most on here seem to want the madman out. That's a good starting point isn't it??

Most on here are true cardiff fans. Most in the stadium ain't.

So why don't you Murphy from Tonyrefail start the revolution? Mighty oaks from little acorns grow. You'll find many a sympathetic ear on this forum I suspect. This is your time Murph. Be a leader of men...

"Freedom lies in being bold"

There simply isn't the numbers Magic Daps.. I've tried myself:

I've set up a protest group, chaired two public meetings, written a petition with over 1,000 signatures, appeared on Radio Wales several times to discuss the issue... helped others draft letters to the club about further rebranding before renewing STs. There's only so much you can do when the vast majority disagree with you.

Sad, but true.

There simply isn't the numbers Magic Daps.. I've tried myself:

I've set up a protest group, chaired two public meetings, written a petition with over 1,000 signatures, appeared on Radio Wales several times to discuss the issue... helped others draft letters to the club about further rebranding before renewing STs. There's only so much you can do when the vast majority disagree with you.

Sad, but true.

Respect to you Barry. Shocking level of apathy shown by others.

There simply isn't the numbers Magic Daps.. I've tried myself:

I've set up a protest group, chaired two public meetings, written a petition with over 1,000 signatures, appeared on Radio Wales several times to discuss the issue... helped others draft letters to the club about further rebranding before renewing STs. There's only so much you can do when the vast majority disagree with you.

Sad, but true.

When all these changes are just down to one man, the convemtional protests are clearly not going to work. I dont wish to discredit you as you have done more than most - but

1000 sigs on an online petition - do you really think that will make a blind bit of difference to Tan? He had already stated that he doesnt care about the minority.

Public meetings - public meetings do naff all unless as a result of the public meeting you do something about it. Talking about stuff changes nothing

Talking on radio wales - again, thats talk. Giving your opinion that you dont like it wont change a thing unless you DO something about it.

IF you guys really want to stop him then you must get together and ACTUALLY DO something that will affect Tan. It maybe a bit late now as you said in another thread you will just be swallowed up by the majority.

Done my best - as I said, there's not much you can do when you are in such a minority.

Done my best - as I said, there's not much you can do when you are in such a minority.

What do you think the split is? In terms of those who would actively protest if a stand was called for.

Done my best - as I said, there's not much you can do when you are in such a minority.

What do you think the split is? In terms of those who would actively protest if a stand was called for.

Honestly? Of a capacity crowd, 5% - if that.

Done my best - as I said, there's not much you can do when you are in such a minority.

What do you think the split is? In terms of those who would actively protest if a stand was called for.

Honestly? Of a capacity crowd, 5% - if that.

You just get better Chuckle bunny. The echo received over 2000 anti tan messages yesterday alone. If you are going to make rash statements get your fact straight.

Done my best - as I said, there's not much you can do when you are in such a minority.

What do you think the split is? In terms of those who would actively protest if a stand was called for.

Honestly? Of a capacity crowd, 5% - if that.

Thats a sad state of affairs really isnt it.

Thats 1200-1300 roughly and probably indicative of your petition. You should at least have your core which is 6000-7000 that came up the league with you that is chomping at the bit to get your club back. It seems everyones morals have got turned for a bit of cash and their "line in the sand" keeps getting rubbed out and re-set.

Even when the name change comes it will be "at least we have kept the cardiff bit" - "if that goes - im off" bla bla bla...

Done my best - as I said, there's not much you can do when you are in such a minority.

What do you think the split is? In terms of those who would actively protest if a stand was called for.

Honestly? Of a capacity crowd, 5% - if that.

You just get better Chuckle bunny. The echo received over 2000 anti tan messages yesterday alone. If you are going to make rash statements get your fact straight.

Do all them attend though? He said from a capacity crowd.

26,000 home fans is 1300.

You just get better Chuckle bunny. The echo received over 2000 anti tan messages yesterday alone. If you are going to make rash statements get your fact straight.

Apologies - that would make it a massive 7%.

However, I gathered roughly 1500 signatures on a petition about the rebrand. That roughly equates to 5%.

You just get better Chuckle bunny. The echo received over 2000 anti tan messages yesterday alone. If you are going to make rash statements get your fact straight.

Apologies - that would make it a massive 7%.

However, I gathered roughly 1500 signatures on a petition about the rebrand. That roughly equates to 5%.

I am talking 1 day chuckle bunny how many days did yours take you pedantic ol sod.

I am talking 1 day chuckle bunny how many days did yours take you pedantic ol sod.

You've lost me now. I can imagine the Echo would receive more, seeing as they have a much wider audience than I do.

However, I don't purchase the Echo, so I don't know what you are talking about.

I am talking 1 day chuckle bunny how many days did yours take you pedantic ol sod.

You've lost me now. I can imagine the Echo would receive more, seeing as they have a much wider audience than I do.

However, I don't purchase the Echo, so I don't know what you are talking about.

Then look before you get pedantic.Or maybe even open your eyes at matches instead of your mouth. I dont purchase it either but I have a glimpse at the football section online,

Then look before you get pedantic.Or maybe even open your eyes at matches instead of your mouth. I dont purchase it either but I have a glimpse at the football section online,

I wasn't getting pedantic... you were the one arguing over 2% Grumpy.

Then look before you get pedantic.Or maybe even open your eyes at matches instead of your mouth. I dont purchase it either but I have a glimpse at the football section online,

I wasn't getting pedantic... you were the one arguing over 2% Grumpy.

Cant you ever accept you are wrong you arrogant man. I bet you were bullied at school

Grumpyguts is the new forum clown it seems.

Grumpyguts is the new forum clown it seems.

At least I only have one account.

Cant you ever accept you are wrong you arrogant man. I bet you were bullied at school

I was asked the number of supporters against Tan/rebrand.

I said "roughly 5%". You claim it is 7%...

Surely 7% IS roughly 5% & it was a pretty good estimate?

Cant you ever accept you are wrong you arrogant man. I bet you were bullied at school

I was asked the number of supporters against Tan/rebrand.

I said "roughly 5%". You claim it is 7%...

Surely 7% IS roughly 5% & it was a pretty good estimate?

I never mentioned 7% or indeed any percentage

Grumpyguts is the new forum clown it seems.

At least I only have one account.

Id prefer you to have 20 sensible ones than 1 in which you offer nothing apart from being a bit of a tool.

I never mentioned 7% or indeed any percentage

No, but you mentioned 2000, which is 7.1% of a capacity crowd at the CCS.

Which "roughly 5%" would fit into. Which means I was right with my estimation.

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Grumpyguts is the new forum clown it seems.

At least I only have one account.

Id prefer you to have 20 sensible ones than 1 in which you offer nothing apart from being a bit of a tool.

Im off I am just feeding you two.

Thank goodness for that, your contribution to the threads ive seen today has been shocking. Now off with you.

Grumpyguts is the new forum clown it seems.

At least I only have one account.

Id prefer you to have 20 sensible ones than 1 in which you offer nothing apart from being a bit of a tool.

And you can offer........?

Grumpyguts is the new forum clown it seems.

At least I only have one account.

Id prefer you to have 20 sensible ones than 1 in which you offer nothing apart from being a bit of a tool.

And you can offer........?

Sense

Grumpyguts is the new forum clown it seems.

At least I only have one account.

Id prefer you to have 20 sensible ones than 1 in which you offer nothing apart from being a bit of a tool.

And you can offer........?

Sense

Ah, when was this this then , it must have been a minuscule portion.