West Brom attendance

A Swansea fan trying to mock another club about attendances is like a Cardiff fan mocking Hull about their farcical rebrand.

26,632. Eighth home game of the first Premier League season. Fail to sell out. Shocking!

We sold our home ends

The usual definition of "selling out" as I understand it is that you have bums on every seat. Don't quite see how your response addresses that issue.

Don't let fans not sitting on their seats and being in the concourse because it was hammering down be a hitch to your agenda.

So are you suggesting that they didn't come through the turnstiles, then, because if they had then surely they would be included in the attendance of 26,632, which is not capacity

We were down I agree, but that's down to a few factors. One being that the club messed up by not saying tickets were available until late notice. I know fans who didn't go as they assumed there was none left. Second, west brom didn't not sell their allocation and we didn't act upon this by releasing tickets for our fans and thirdly as I mentioned, fans were in the concourse due to adverse weather conditions. I mentioned nothing about people coming through turnstiles, I was simply relying to your remark about 'bums on seats'.

So you agree that there was not a capacity crowd. Pretty amateurish ticketing system as well by the sounds of it

Yes our ticket system always has been amateurish, it can't handle demand and has been like it for years. It was hard to tell as due to the weather and fans being in the concourse, you can't really tell can you if it's an unsold seat or not. I know for a fact though that west brom DID NOT sell their allocation, the same as Newcastle.

But the point is, Mr. Chuckles, that this forum gives us stick for our capacity, yet you are unable to achieve your capacity for only your eighth PL home game. Clearly the home ends weren't sold out as tickets were available to Cardiff fans but not taken up.

The home end was originally sold out. The club late in the day tried to re jig the segregation to allow extra home support & released extra home end tickets on the Friday - only one day before the actual fixture.

Too late in the day - many people assume they are all gone or they will have made alternative plans.

Simple enough really.

Swansea very very rarely achieve capacity, if you want to go down that road.

26,632. Eighth home game of the first Premier League season. Fail to sell out. Shocking!

Wow - you really need to get a life. Last time you were threatening to report this forum and attempt to close it down, now this.



Home ends were totally sold out. Club announced that extra tickets were available at short notice, due to west Brom not bringing allocation & were possibly at too short notice for many.

This is all trivial anyway, as it's :

A) only a few thousand off your record EVER attendance.
B) thousands more than you could ever muster at the Liberty.

But the point is, Mr. Chuckles, that this forum gives us stick for our capacity, yet you are unable to achieve your capacity for only your eighth PL home game. Clearly the home ends weren't sold out as tickets were available to Cardiff fans but not taken up.

But if they are not told to the fans then what can we do? Are you grasping this?

He's struggling 87, bless him.

He tried to shut down this forum the other day and threatened to report it to the police - god knows why, obviously has no life other than fishing for bites on a rival football forum.

26,632. Eighth home game of the first Premier League season. Fail to sell out. Shocking!

Wow - you really need to get a life. Last time you were threatening to report this forum and attempt to close it down, now this.



Home ends were totally sold out. Club announced that extra tickets were available at short notice, due to west Brom not bringing allocation & were possibly at too short notice for many.

This is all trivial anyway, as it's :

A) only a few thousand off your record EVER attendance.
B) thousands more than you could ever muster at the Liberty.

But the point is, Mr. Chuckles, that this forum gives us stick for our capacity, yet you are unable to achieve your capacity for only your eighth PL home game. Clearly the home ends weren't sold out as tickets were available to Cardiff fans but not taken up.

But if they are not told to the fans then what can we do? Are you grasping this?

You are clearly not grasping the fact that, for whatever reason, capacity was not reached. The reasons are irrelevant. 26,632 is not capacity, is it?

He's struggling 87, bless him.

He tried to shut down this forum the other day and threatened to report it to the police - god knows why, obviously has no life other than fishing for bites on a rival football forum.

I think it's funny how he can have a go at us about attendances when they couldn't even sell out against Valencia, arguably their biggest game to date.

But the point is, Mr. Chuckles, that this forum gives us stick for our capacity, yet you are unable to achieve your capacity for only your eighth PL home game. Clearly the home ends weren't sold out as tickets were available to Cardiff fans but not taken up.

The home end was originally sold out. The club late in the day tried to re jig the segregation to allow extra home support & released extra home end tickets on the Friday - only one day before the actual fixture.

Too late in the day - many people assume they are all gone or they will have made alternative plans.

Simple enough really.

Swansea very very rarely achieve capacity, if you want to go down that road.

WBA only took an allocation of 1,800 so why did your club leave it until the day before to re jig and put the other tickets on sale that they would have been aware of weeks earlier?

We sold out every home PL game for the 1st 2 and a bit years

A friend of mine who has been in The Dominion Republic for the last 6 years, came back with his family on a short break, phoned the ticket office to try for 4 tickets, but was told that as he was not a season ticket holder, and not a gold or silver member, then he could not buy tickets until the day of the match, and because they had all been sold there was very little chance of him getting one

26,632. Eighth home game of the first Premier League season. Fail to sell out. Shocking!

Wow - you really need to get a life. Last time you were threatening to report this forum and attempt to close it down, now this.



Home ends were totally sold out. Club announced that extra tickets were available at short notice, due to west Brom not bringing allocation & were possibly at too short notice for many.

This is all trivial anyway, as it's :

A) only a few thousand off your record EVER attendance.
B) thousands more than you could ever muster at the Liberty.

But the point is, Mr. Chuckles, that this forum gives us stick for our capacity, yet you are unable to achieve your capacity for only your eighth PL home game. Clearly the home ends weren't sold out as tickets were available to Cardiff fans but not taken up.

But if they are not told to the fans then what can we do? Are you grasping this?

You are clearly not grasping the fact that, for whatever reason, capacity was not reached. The reasons are irrelevant. 26,632 is not capacity, is it?

Jesus Christ Are you thick? Have you read anything we've said? If this is an attempt to fish for a bite, it's awful.

A friend of mine who has been in The Dominion Republic for the last 6 years, came back with his family on a short break, phoned the ticket office to try for 4 tickets, but was told that as he was not a season ticket holder, and not a gold or silver member, then he could not buy tickets until the day of the match, and because they had all been sold there was very little chance of him getting one

WBA only took an allocation of 1,800 so why did your club leave it until the day before to re jig and put the other tickets on sale that they would have been aware of weeks earlier?

We sold out every home PL game for the 1st 2 and a bit years

I don't know, why don't you ask them? you know how amateur our ticket operation is!

I think even the smallest of clubs would sell out the Liberty in the premiership. we were getting bigger attendances than that in the second tier & at our old ground, well before you even got to the prem.

But the point is, Mr. Chuckles, that this forum gives us stick for our capacity, yet you are unable to achieve your capacity for only your eighth PL home game. Clearly the home ends weren't sold out as tickets were available to Cardiff fans but not taken up.

The home end was originally sold out. The club late in the day tried to re jig the segregation to allow extra home support & released extra home end tickets on the Friday - only one day before the actual fixture.

Too late in the day - many people assume they are all gone or they will have made alternative plans.

Simple enough really.

Swansea very very rarely achieve capacity, if you want to go down that road.

WBA only took an allocation of 1,800 so why did your club leave it until the day before to re jig and put the other tickets on sale that they would have been aware of weeks earlier?

We sold out every home PL game for the 1st 2 and a bit years

We have an amateurish ticket system team. I said this earlier, they couldn't run a bath. Not down to demand because its there, hence the expansion going on.

What's happened with selling out with you now? People not renewing? What's gone on with the stadium expansion with you now?

WBA only took an allocation of 1,800 so why did your club leave it until the day before to re jig and put the other tickets on sale that they would have been aware of weeks earlier?

We sold out every home PL game for the 1st 2 and a bit years

I don't know, why don't you ask them? you know how amateur our ticket operation is!

I think even the smallest of clubs would sell out the Liberty in the premiership.

A minute ago you were saying we hardly ever sell out ffs

I don't know, why don't you ask them? you know how amateur our ticket operation is!

I think even the smallest of clubs would sell out the Liberty in the premiership.

A minute ago you were saying we hardly ever sell out ffs [/quote]

Your fellow supporter was using the fact that WBA didn't take full allocation; that capacity wasn't reached - well in the case, Swansea very rarely reach full capacity. Not often you see over 20k at the Liberty.

You can't use one set of parameters to measure us & then different ones to compare yourselves.

But the point is, Mr. Chuckles, that this forum gives us stick for our capacity, yet you are unable to achieve your capacity for only your eighth PL home game. Clearly the home ends weren't sold out as tickets were available to Cardiff fans but not taken up.

The home end was originally sold out. The club late in the day tried to re jig the segregation to allow extra home support & released extra home end tickets on the Friday - only one day before the actual fixture.

Too late in the day - many people assume they are all gone or they will have made alternative plans.

Simple enough really.

Swansea very very rarely achieve capacity, if you want to go down that road.

WBA only took an allocation of 1,800 so why did your club leave it until the day before to re jig and put the other tickets on sale that they would have been aware of weeks earlier?

We sold out every home PL game for the 1st 2 and a bit years

So was 19000 a sell-out ?
Are you sure you sold out every game -how do you explain this...

Lowest home attendance, 19,028 (20 August 2011 vs Wigan Athletic)

I think you may be unaware of how the tickets are sold these days at our club. There were only a few hundred tickets out of the extras put on sale after West Brom returned the 900. Until the last couple of days they were only available to members and even then on-line as the ticket office had struggled to cope for the previous 7, so they tried this as an experiment. Most didn't even know they had gone on general sale.

Safe to say the game could easily have sold out, but many fans had already given up hope of getting a ticket and it's not a sign of a drop in demand - Southampton is already virtually sold out https://www.eticketing.co.uk/cardiffcit ... emref=4091

Sunderland won't be taking their full allocation and there are tickets on sale for that one - but you'll need to be quick.

I don't know, why don't you ask them? you know how amateur our ticket operation is!

I think even the smallest of clubs would sell out the Liberty in the premiership.

A minute ago you were saying we hardly ever sell out ffs

Your fellow supporter was using the fact that WBA didn't take full allocation; that capacity wasn't reached - well in the case, Swansea very rarely reach full capacity. Not often you see over 20k at the Liberty.

You can't use one set of parameters to measure us & then different ones to compare yourselves. [/quote]

5 out of the 7 games PL games this season have surpassed that 20k that you say is not often seen

5 out of 7 games PL games have surpassed that 20k that you say is not often seen

Completely ignored my response I see. Know I'm right then?

Not until this season though. Quite used to seeing around 19k there.

As I've already said, bragging about continually selling out a stadium is a bit pointless when it's as small as yours... Well, I say "yours"...

& the JB's on the "so called" ST waiting list have been busting a gut to watch their beloved in Europe
West Brom didn't sell out & returned part of their requested allocation, but a bit late for many who didn't know, I blame our Marketing strategy which is poor.
We do have empty seats , which are ST holders which is disappointing and the club needs to find a better solution.

The bottom line here though is the crowd was approx 1400 short of our maximum crowd and West Brom took 1400 short of their potential allocation...get the picture?

Don't worry about us, if you've genuinely got fans on a waiting list looking for tickets, I think I'm right in saying you haven't sold out once in Europe. If this is true there are no fans and there is no waiting list!

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5 out of 7 games PL games have surpassed that 20k that you say is not often seen

Completely ignored my response I see. Know I'm right then?

Not until this season though. Quite used to seeing around 19k there.

As I've already said, bragging about continually selling out a stadium is a bit pointless when it's as small as yours... Well, I say "yours"...

Last season 17 of 19 games were over 20k

I'm not bragging about us selling out our stadium Baz, just providing the facts to prove your statements wrong

The fact is, for whatever reason you want to give, you didn't sell out all your home tickets for what was just your 8th (?) home PL game, and this with you being the almighty Capital of sleeping giants as well

Interestingly, it was also your first home game against what might be described as an also ran PL team (bar arguably Newcastle).

& the JB's on the "so called" ST waiting list have been busting a gut to watch their beloved in Europe
West Brom didn't sell out & returned part of their requested allocation, but a bit late for many who didn't know, I blame our Marketing strategy which is poor.
We do have empty seats , which are ST holders which is disappointing and the club needs to find a better solution.

The bottom line here though is the crowd was approx 1400 short of our maximum crowd and West Brom took 1400 short of their potential allocation...get the picture?

Don't worry about us, if you've genuinely got fans on a waiting list looking for tickets, I think I'm right in saying you haven't sold out once in Europe. If this is true there areno fans and there is no waiting list!

There are 8k on our waiting list which is detailed in our stadium expansion planning application.

As for the european games, it is season ticket holders who are not turning up for these. For a few of the games there has been hardly anyone in my section turn up who are ST holders but those seats have generally been taken by other fans.

5 out of 7 games PL games have surpassed that 20k that you say is not often seen

Completely ignored my response I see. Know I'm right then?

Not until this season though. Quite used to seeing around 19k there.

As I've already said, bragging about continually selling out a stadium is a bit pointless when it's as small as yours... Well, I say "yours"...

Last season 17 of 19 games were over 20k

I'm not bragging about us selling out our stadium Baz, just providing the facts to prove your statements wrong

The fact is, for whatever reason you want to give, you didn't sell out all your home tickets for what was just your 8th (?) home PL game, and this with you being the almighty Capital of sleeping giants as well

Interestingly, it was also your first home game against what might be described as an also ran PL team (bar arguably Newcastle).

So when was the Wigan game when you only sold 19000 ?

Wasn't it your 1st home game in the Prem ?

Last season 17 of 19 games were over 20k

I'm not bragging about us selling out our stadium Baz, just providing the facts to prove your statements wrong

The fact is, for whatever reason you want to give, you didn't sell out all your home tickets for what was just your 8th (?) home PL game, and this with you being the almighty Capital of sleeping giants as well

Interestingly, it was also your first home game against what might be described as an also ran PL team (bar arguably Newcastle).

Fair enough - I'm not as obsessed as my rivals attendances as you lot seem to be.

The fact is, we sold out our home end until late in the day & extra tickets weren't picked up. Don't know why you find this so amusing - first season in Europe for many years & you get the most pitiful attendances home and away. End up having to give tickets away - even to your one big home game.



Hope you enjoy getting off on the fact that tickets released too late for many weren't snapped up. Maybe one day you will be able to dream about ONLY getting 26.5k at home.

5 out of 7 games PL games have surpassed that 20k that you say is not often seen

Completely ignored my response I see. Know I'm right then?

Not until this season though. Quite used to seeing around 19k there.

As I've already said, bragging about continually selling out a stadium is a bit pointless when it's as small as yours... Well, I say "yours"...

Last season 17 of 19 games were over 20k

I'm not bragging about us selling out our stadium Baz, just providing the facts to prove your statements wrong

The fact is, for whatever reason you want to give, you didn't sell out all your home tickets for what was just your 8th (?) home PL game, and this with you being the almighty Capital of sleeping giants as well

Interestingly, it was also your first home game against what might be described as an also ran PL team (bar arguably Newcastle).

Priceless, Caulker scored a winner for us at home against a crock of shit well below The Geordies

5 out of 7 games PL games have surpassed that 20k that you say is not often seen

Completely ignored my response I see. Know I'm right then?

Not until this season though. Quite used to seeing around 19k there.

As I've already said, bragging about continually selling out a stadium is a bit pointless when it's as small as yours... Well, I say "yours"...

Last season 17 of 19 games were over 20k

I'm not bragging about us selling out our stadium Baz, just providing the facts to prove your statements wrong

The fact is, for whatever reason you want to give, you didn't sell out all your home tickets for what was just your 8th (?) home PL game, and this with you being the almighty Capital of sleeping giants as well

Interestingly, it was also your first home game against what might be described as an also ran PL team (bar arguably Newcastle).

So when was the Wigan game when you only sold 19000 ?

Wasn't it your 1st home game in the Prem ?

That was the year before when for that season the away end wasn't configured to reduce the away capacity depending on away tickets required. The following summer it was changed so the away club can request either 1,000 or 2,000. If they take the lower allocation, the segregation is changed so the other 1,000 tickets go on sale to home fans.

Hope this clears things up for you

26,632. Eighth home game of the first Premier League season. Fail to sell out. Shocking!

Wow - you really need to get a life. Last time you were threatening to report this forum and attempt to close it down, now this.



Home ends were totally sold out. Club announced that extra tickets were available at short notice, due to west Brom not bringing allocation & were possibly at too short notice for many.

This is all trivial anyway, as it's :

A) only a few thousand off your record EVER attendance.
B) thousands more than you could ever muster at the Liberty.

But the point is, Mr. Chuckles, that this forum gives us stick for our capacity, yet you are unable to achieve your capacity for only your eighth PL home game. Clearly the home ends weren't sold out as tickets were available to Cardiff fans but not taken up.

But if they are not told to the fans then what can we do? Are you grasping this?

You are clearly not grasping the fact that, for whatever reason, capacity was not reached. The reasons are irrelevant. 26,632 is not capacity, is it?

Jesus Christ Are you thick? Have you read anything we've said? If this is an attempt to fish for a bite, it's awful.

You obviously havn't read some of is previous posts on this forum because he is as thick as sh*t.

Swansea v some Romanian team 12.000

Swansea v Valencia 17.000

Will you sell out against Napoli?

5 out of 7 games PL games have surpassed that 20k that you say is not often seen

Completely ignored my response I see. Know I'm right then?

Not until this season though. Quite used to seeing around 19k there.

As I've already said, bragging about continually selling out a stadium is a bit pointless when it's as small as yours... Well, I say "yours"...

Last season 17 of 19 games were over 20k

I'm not bragging about us selling out our stadium Baz, just providing the facts to prove your statements wrong

The fact is, for whatever reason you want to give, you didn't sell out all your home tickets for what was just your 8th (?) home PL game, and this with you being the almighty Capital of sleeping giants as well

Interestingly, it was also your first home game against what might be described as an also ran PL team (bar arguably Newcastle).

So when was the Wigan game when you only sold 19000 ?

Wasn't it your 1st home game in the Prem ?

That was the year before when for that season the away end wasn't configured to reduce the away capacity depending on away tickets required. The following summer it was changed so the away club can request either 1,000 or 2,000. If they take the lower allocation, the segregation is changed so the other 1,000 tickets go on sale to home fans.

Hope this clears things up for you

So the ground wasn't sold out.

5 out of 7 games PL games have surpassed that 20k that you say is not often seen

Completely ignored my response I see. Know I'm right then?

Not until this season though. Quite used to seeing around 19k there.

As I've already said, bragging about continually selling out a stadium is a bit pointless when it's as small as yours... Well, I say "yours"...

Last season 17 of 19 games were over 20k

I'm not bragging about us selling out our stadium Baz, just providing the facts to prove your statements wrong

The fact is, for whatever reason you want to give, you didn't sell out all your home tickets for what was just your 8th (?) home PL game, and this with you being the almighty Capital of sleeping giants as well

Interestingly, it was also your first home game against what might be described as an also ran PL team (bar arguably Newcastle).

So when was the Wigan game when you only sold 19000 ?

Wasn't it your 1st home game in the Prem ?

That was the year before when for that season the away end wasn't configured to reduce the away capacity depending on away tickets required. The following summer it was changed so the away club can request either 1,000 or 2,000. If they take the lower allocation, the segregation is changed so the other 1,000 tickets go on sale to home fans.

Hope this clears things up for you

So the ground wasn't sold out.

Well deduced. The home section was though.

5 out of 7 games PL games have surpassed that 20k that you say is not often seen

Completely ignored my response I see. Know I'm right then?

Not until this season though. Quite used to seeing around 19k there.

As I've already said, bragging about continually selling out a stadium is a bit pointless when it's as small as yours... Well, I say "yours"...

Last season 17 of 19 games were over 20k

I'm not bragging about us selling out our stadium Baz, just providing the facts to prove your statements wrong

The fact is, for whatever reason you want to give, you didn't sell out all your home tickets for what was just your 8th (?) home PL game, and this with you being the almighty Capital of sleeping giants as well

Interestingly, it was also your first home game against what might be described as an also ran PL team (bar arguably Newcastle).

So when was the Wigan game when you only sold 19000 ?

Wasn't it your 1st home game in the Prem ?

That was the year before when for that season the away end wasn't configured to reduce the away capacity depending on away tickets required. The following summer it was changed so the away club can request either 1,000 or 2,000. If they take the lower allocation, the segregation is changed so the other 1,000 tickets go on sale to home fans.

Hope this clears things up for you

So the ground wasn't sold out.

Well deduced. The home section was though.

So, you didn't sell out, just like we did. But unlike us you couldn't sell the spare seats because your ground was sh1t (or more technically 'not geared up for it')

Now when things are the same for both clubs you still don't sell out (Stoke/Hull) . Let's not forget we have 35% more capacity.

But of course this mysterious 8000 waiting list will fill your ground (I'd be interested to see some proof of this linked) ? But where were they for Hull and Stoke ?

I'm sure there will be a few more games not selling out next year and you can happily take the p1ss out of us not selling out a 33500 capacity ground while you get 19k in your 21k ground.

I think when it comes to taking the micky out of attendances you are on shitty ground.