Clueless fans

I think some of you on here are starting to believe that because we now play in red that we are Man Utd or Liverpool, we're Cardiff City in our first ever season in the Premier League and you want the manager sacked. Un f*cking believeable!

Malky Mackay deserves at least one season in the Premier League, he got us here yet you'd cast him off before half the season is complete?

The rebrand is the reason I am boycotting but to be honest a large proportion of our current fanbase are a joke and living on another planet.

The argument I'm given when I say I would rather Tan pissed off back to Malaysia is, "who would buy the club" well I'll turn that around, "what manager would want to come to our club at the moment"? Tan turning us into a laughing stock and fans on the managers back and we're not even in the bottom three.

Some idiot mentioned Gary Neville would be a good replacement and people actually agreed with him, Gary f.ucking Neville! No experience in solo first team management whatsoever, honestly the day I read that I think I lost all faith in mankind.

The grass isn't always greener, remember a lot of you have sold our clubs history down the drain for the Premier League experience and now you're complaining about it ha ha, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

the problem i see is that we are a good attacking team that is being held back by the manager...

The question regarding who you would like to see as an alternative to Malky was hypothetical and in case you hadn't noticed Gary Neville is currently employed as part of the England set up, so not only is he is a highly respected pundit for his reading and analysis of the game, but is also an international coach that will be working at next years world cup - obviously that means he is not good enough to be considered for us Personally, if Malky was to get sacked [which incidentally I hope doesn't happen as he undoubtedly has the best interest of this club at heart and I have never called for his head] then I think we could do a lot worse than Neville.

I would prefer we played in blue, but am not going to stop going to watch the club I have supported and been watching for 45 years. Stupid me though I forgot you aren't supposed to be free thinking here:- you must sing don't sack Mackay or we'll always be blue or better still abandon the club altogether - only then will you be a real fan and gain any credibility. Its not the people who don't cry every five minutes about the rebrand that make me despair, its the modern day martyrs who believe themselves to be the true voice of all Cardiff City fans.

Incidentally, my first away game was Bury 1976 the night we won promotion - probably a few years before a lot of you who shout the loudest and put other supporters down ever went to Ninian Park never mind an away game. FFS - just get on with not going if that's your choice and leave those of us who do still support our team week in, week out to have an opinion on team matters and how the club is run without getting bad mouthed.

We may go down whatever manager we have. It's a gamble either way but if it ends in failure we can be sure the people who didn't get their way will blame the others. This season is going to be very hard and now we have another issue dividing the fans. That division will become obvious to the people who need to make it happen on the field, it will damage confidence and enthusiasm and will likely be the cause of our failure.

its a gamble with or without Malky..........what is not a gamble is it will remain dour should he stay.

PL survival may not be the place to find the kind of entertainment some fans want. It's an expensive sport to follow if you are looking for something that is simply not possible for a Club that needs to survive. People are entertained in different ways and some may see 0-0 at Stoke as very rewarding, others won't. I have always spent my time on what I find entertaining.

The question regarding who you would like to see as an alternative to Malky was hypothetical and in case you hadn't noticed Gary Neville is currently employed as part of the England set up, so not only is he is a highly respected pundit for his reading and analysis of the game, but is also an international coach that will be working at next years world cup - obviously that means he is not good enough to be considered for us Personally, if Malky was to get sacked [which incidentally I hope doesn't happen as he undoubtedly has the best interest of this club at heart and I have never called for his head] then I think we could do a lot worse than Neville.

I would prefer we played in blue, but am not going to stop going to watch the club I have supported and been watching for 45 years. Stupid me though I forgot you aren't supposed to be free thinking here:- you must sing don't sack Mackay or we'll always be blue or better still abandon the club altogether - only then will you be a real fan and gain any credibility. Its not the people who don't cry every five minutes about the rebrand that make me despair, its the modern day martyrs who believe themselves to be the true voice of all Cardiff City fans.

Incidentally, my first away game was Bury 1976 the night we won promotion - probably a few years before a lot of you who shout the loudest and put other supporters down ever went to Ninian Park never mind an away game. FFS - just get on with not going if that's your choice and leave those of us who do still support our team week in, week out to have an opinion on team matters and how the club is run without getting bad mouthed.

I'm sure if I could have gone down at minus four years old I would have. So you're allowed an opinion but because I am boycotting not, right. Well I've never been one to hold back and will continue to speak mind thanks

We may go down whatever manager we have. It's a gamble either way but if it ends in failure we can be sure the people who didn't get their way will blame the others. This season is going to be very hard and now we have another issue dividing the fans. That division will become obvious to the people who need to make it happen on the field, it will damage confidence and enthusiasm and will likely be the cause of our failure.

its a gamble with or without Malky..........what is not a gamble is it will remain dour should he stay.

PL survival may not be the place to find the kind of entertainment some fans want. It's an expensive sport to follow if you are looking for something that is simply not possible for a Club that needs to survive. People are entertained in different ways and some may see 0-0 at Stoke as very rewarding, others won't. I have always spent my time on what I find entertaining.

was 0-2 at Palace rewarding as well?..two terrible games .
never f*cking tried to win it..............and as for spending my time........ive watched Cardiff for longer than this manager has lived.....and will continue to when he is fist pumping , and waving to another clubs fans.

We may go down whatever manager we have. It's a gamble either way but if it ends in failure we can be sure the people who didn't get their way will blame the others. This season is going to be very hard and now we have another issue dividing the fans. That division will become obvious to the people who need to make it happen on the field, it will damage confidence and enthusiasm and will likely be the cause of our failure.

its a gamble with or without Malky..........what is not a gamble is it will remain dour should he stay.

PL survival may not be the place to find the kind of entertainment some fans want. It's an expensive sport to follow if you are looking for something that is simply not possible for a Club that needs to survive. People are entertained in different ways and some may see 0-0 at Stoke as very rewarding, others won't. I have always spent my time on what I find entertaining.

was 0-2 at Palace rewarding as well?..two terrible games .
never f*cking tried to win it..............and as for spending my time........ive watched Cardiff for longer than this manager has lived.....and will continue to when he is fist pumping , and waving to another clubs fans.

Was palace rewarding? Its like life, there are disappointments along the way.
Ultimately most people find that the highs make up for the lows.

The question regarding who you would like to see as an alternative to Malky was hypothetical and in case you hadn't noticed Gary Neville is currently employed as part of the England set up, so not only is he is a highly respected pundit for his reading and analysis of the game, but is also an international coach that will be working at next years world cup - obviously that means he is not good enough to be considered for us Personally, if Malky was to get sacked [which incidentally I hope doesn't happen as he undoubtedly has the best interest of this club at heart and I have never called for his head] then I think we could do a lot worse than Neville.

I would prefer we played in blue, but am not going to stop going to watch the club I have supported and been watching for 45 years. Stupid me though I forgot you aren't supposed to be free thinking here:- you must sing don't sack Mackay or we'll always be blue or better still abandon the club altogether - only then will you be a real fan and gain any credibility. Its not the people who don't cry every five minutes about the rebrand that make me despair, its the modern day martyrs who believe themselves to be the true voice of all Cardiff City fans.

Incidentally, my first away game was Bury 1976 the night we won promotion - probably a few years before a lot of you who shout the loudest and put other supporters down ever went to Ninian Park never mind an away game. FFS - just get on with not going if that's your choice and leave those of us who do still support our team week in, week out to have an opinion on team matters and how the club is run without getting bad mouthed.

I'm sure if I could have gone down at minus four years old I would have. So you're allowed an opinion but because I am boycotting not, right. Well I've never been one to hold back and will continue to speak mind thanks

I never said that you shouldn't have an opinion and of course you are entitled to one. What I object to is being called a clueless fan because I happen to have an alternative opinion to yours. I too will speak my mind and whilst I respect your choice, it doesn't mean I have to agree with it.

Fair enough mate, I apologise, clueless was a bit strong. As you say, life is all about opinions

We may go down whatever manager we have. It's a gamble either way but if it ends in failure we can be sure the people who didn't get their way will blame the others. This season is going to be very hard and now we have another issue dividing the fans. That division will become obvious to the people who need to make it happen on the field, it will damage confidence and enthusiasm and will likely be the cause of our failure.

its a gamble with or without Malky..........what is not a gamble is it will remain dour should he stay.

PL survival may not be the place to find the kind of entertainment some fans want. It's an expensive sport to follow if you are looking for something that is simply not possible for a Club that needs to survive. People are entertained in different ways and some may see 0-0 at Stoke as very rewarding, others won't. I have always spent my time on what I find entertaining.

was 0-2 at Palace rewarding as well?..two terrible games .
never f*cking tried to win it..............and as for spending my time........ive watched Cardiff for longer than this manager has lived.....and will continue to when he is fist pumping , and waving to another clubs fans.

Was palace rewarding? Its like life, there are disappointments along the way.
Ultimately most people find that the highs make up for the lows.

ive had far more lows than highs supporting this club.........dont mind the lows..this should be a massive high......massive......Stoke and Palace were shite. this is the most negative manager we have ever had, and he happens to have out spent ALLthe rest combined in 2 years

Simon, of course you want malky to stay because you want us to get relegated.

Ha ha not true. As much as I've tried I can't want Cardiff to lose, do I think the club as a whole is a Joke at this current moment in time, yes. Is the euphoria of winning the same for me this season, no, do I feel bad when we lose, yes but no way as bad as I did..did I spend today getting ribbed in work because Cardiff lost, f**k yeah and I defended them to the hilt. I've finally come to relative peace with the rebrand, while TAN is there we play in red, while he is there and we're in red I don't go down. Still want my local team to win though as Much as I tried to dissociate myself with it at the beginning.

it is true you've said it many times on bu's Facebook page.

I think some of you on here are starting to believe that because we now play in red that we are Man Utd or Liverpool, we're Cardiff City in our first ever season in the Premier League and you want the manager sacked. Un f*cking believeable!

Malky Mackay deserves at least one season in the Premier League, he got us here yet you'd cast him off before half the season is complete?

The rebrand is the reason I am boycotting but to be honest a large proportion of our current fanbase are a joke and living on another planet.

The argument I'm given when I say I would rather Tan pissed off back to Malaysia is, "who would buy the club" well I'll turn that around, "what manager would want to come to our club at the moment"? Tan turning us into a laughing stock and fans on the managers back and we're not even in the bottom three.

Some idiot mentioned Gary Neville would be a good replacement and people actually agreed with him, Gary f.ucking Neville! No experience in solo first team management whatsoever, honestly the day I read that I think I lost all faith in mankind.

The grass isn't always greener, remember a lot of you have sold our clubs history down the drain for the Premier League experience and now you're complaining about it ha ha, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

It's the nature of the beast of being in the premiership, if things are not quite going right on the field and the fans cant understand why the manager is reluctant to change his tactics they will want someone who will change it around. We haven't got the only fans in the world that do this, there are fans who wanted D Jones out now moaning about the ones that want Malky out, what do we all say "only at Cardiff", you also say a lot of fans sold our clubs history down the drain how did we do that, just because you don't go any more doesn't mean that the rest of us that go sold the clubs history, with some of the stuff you say in you post it sounds to me that you think of your self as Cardiff City fc No 1 fan just because you use to go when we were in the lower divisions, well you weren't the only one but some of us don't keep on about it.

The question regarding who you would like to see as an alternative to Malky was hypothetical and in case you hadn't noticed Gary Neville is currently employed as part of the England set up, so not only is he is a highly respected pundit for his reading and analysis of the game, but is also an international coach that will be working at next years world cup - obviously that means he is not good enough to be considered for us Personally, if Malky was to get sacked [which incidentally I hope doesn't happen as he undoubtedly has the best interest of this club at heart and I have never called for his head] then I think we could do a lot worse than Neville.

I would prefer we played in blue, but am not going to stop going to watch the club I have supported and been watching for 45 years. Stupid me though I forgot you aren't supposed to be free thinking here:- you must sing don't sack Mackay or we'll always be blue or better still abandon the club altogether - only then will you be a real fan and gain any credibility. Its not the people who don't cry every five minutes about the rebrand that make me despair, its the modern day martyrs who believe themselves to be the true voice of all Cardiff City fans.

Incidentally, my first away game was Bury 1976 the night we won promotion - probably a few years before a lot of you who shout the loudest and put other supporters down ever went to Ninian Park never mind an away game. FFS - just get on with not going if that's your choice and leave those of us who do still support our team week in, week out to have an opinion on team matters and how the club is run without getting bad mouthed.

Simon, of course you want malky to stay because you want us to get relegated.

Ha ha not true. As much as I've tried I can't want Cardiff to lose, do I think the club as a whole is a Joke at this current moment in time, yes. Is the euphoria of winning the same for me this season, no, do I feel bad when we lose, yes but no way as bad as I did..did I spend today getting ribbed in work because Cardiff lost, f**k yeah and I defended them to the hilt. I've finally come to relative peace with the rebrand, while TAN is there we play in red, while he is there and we're in red I don't go down. Still want my local team to win though as Much as I tried to dissociate myself with it at the beginning.

Simon you posted this on 22nd nov on bu's Facebook page.

can't make Sunday as i have previous plans and to be honest i am losing faith that we can do anything.The abuse this group gets is unbelievable,the only bunch of people willing to get off their arses and do something about it and we get ridiculed.The so called Cardiff fans left have the club they deserve,a total laughing stock.The same people will be revelling in the success if we ever turn back to blue,gutless bunch of success hungry wankers.This is my opinion and not the opinion of Bu before the usual tossers run us down on the message boards.I hope we get relegated then we'll see who the true Cardiff fans are,half of them won't be anywhere to be seen.Yes I'm pissed off if you hadn't noticed ha ha.

Simon well said, "we now have loads of premier league at all costs" muppets supporting our club, they were no where to be seen in the Div 4 days !!! And if we go down they will be off like a shot, back to supporting the red shite of Liverpool and Man Utd

Simon well said, "we now have loads of premier league at all costs" muppets supporting our club, they were no where to be seen in the Div 4 days !!! And if we go down they will be off like a shot, back to supporting the red shite of Liverpool and Man Utd

And there were loads that were there in the lower leagues, but they don't keep harping on about it

Simon well said, "we now have loads of premier league at all costs" muppets supporting our club, they were no where to be seen in the Div 4 days !!! And if we go down they will be off like a shot, back to supporting the red shite of Liverpool and Man Utd

And there were loads that were there in the lower leagues, but they don't keep harping on about it

How did you manage though when we were shite? Did you moan like you do now?

Simon well said, "we now have loads of premier league at all costs" muppets supporting our club, they were no where to be seen in the Div 4 days !!! And if we go down they will be off like a shot, back to supporting the red shite of Liverpool and Man Utd

And there were loads that were there in the lower leagues, but they don't keep harping on about it

How did you manage though when we were shite? Did you moan like you do now?

You think i'm moaning now, you need to get a life

Simon well said, "we now have loads of premier league at all costs" muppets supporting our club, they were no where to be seen in the Div 4 days !!! And if we go down they will be off like a shot, back to supporting the red shite of Liverpool and Man Utd

And there were loads that were there in the lower leagues, but they don't keep harping on about it

How did you manage though when we were shite? Did you moan like you do now?

You think i'm moaning now, you need to get a life

Yes I do actually, I would hate to see you moaning then if this is you normal. Are you one of those people who is happiest moaning?

Simon well said, "we now have loads of premier league at all costs" muppets supporting our club, they were no where to be seen in the Div 4 days !!! And if we go down they will be off like a shot, back to supporting the red shite of Liverpool and Man Utd

And there were loads that were there in the lower leagues, but they don't keep harping on about it

How did you manage though when we were shite? Did you moan like you do now?

You think i'm moaning now, you need to get a life

Yes I do actually, I would hate to see you moaning then if this is you normal. Are you one of those people who is happiest moaning?

Silly Billy aren't you

Some people are entitled to an opinion and some are making valid and true points on the negatives of Malkys football.. I think some people agree with the negatives but believe we need to stick with him.

Fair enough mate, I apologise, clueless was a bit strong. As you say, life is all about opinions

No worries - hope that you will one day be able to go back and watch the team that obviously means a lot to you.

People are talking about malkys targets this season. We've got to remember he is hitting any sensible fans target, above relegation all season so far. Most fans would take that at the end of the season.
I agree that we should have played some more attacking sides and formation but then again, what the f**k do any of us know (im assuming 99% of us have never actually managed a football team)
lucky that that no one of importance pays any attention to what's on here and the crowd on the day still get behind the team most of the time and that's what matters

People are talking about malkys targets this season. We've got to remember he is hitting any sensible fans target, above relegation all season so far. Most fans would take that at the end of the season.
I agree that we should have played some more attacking sides and formation but then again, what the f**k do any of us know (im assuming 99% of us have never actually managed a football team)
lucky that that no one of importance pays any attention to what's on here and the crowd on the day still get behind the team most of the time and that's what matters

People are talking about malkys targets this season. We've got to remember he is hitting any sensible fans target, above relegation all season so far. Most fans would take that at the end of the season.
I agree that we should have played some more attacking sides and formation but then again, what the f**k do any of us know (im assuming 99% of us have never actually managed a football team)
lucky that that no one of importance pays any attention to what's on here and the crowd on the day still get behind the team most of the time and that's what matters

you have stated what many are saying...nothing more than we need to play more attacking football...as if we dont then bottom 3 is awaiting our arrival....it is a simple as that...

Simon, of course you want malky to stay because you want us to get relegated.

Ha ha not true. As much as I've tried I can't want Cardiff to lose, do I think the club as a whole is a Joke at this current moment in time, yes. Is the euphoria of winning the same for me this season, no, do I feel bad when we lose, yes but no way as bad as I did..did I spend today getting ribbed in work because Cardiff lost, f**k yeah and I defended them to the hilt. I've finally come to relative peace with the rebrand, while TAN is there we play in red, while he is there and we're in red I don't go down. Still want my local team to win though as Much as I tried to dissociate myself with it at the beginning.

Simon you posted this on 22nd nov on bu's Facebook page.

can't make Sunday as i have previous plans and to be honest i am losing faith that we can do anything.The abuse this group gets is unbelievable,the only bunch of people willing to get off their arses and do something about it and we get ridiculed.The so called Cardiff fans left have the club they deserve,a total laughing stock.The same people will be revelling in the success if we ever turn back to blue,gutless bunch of success hungry wankers.This is my opinion and not the opinion of Bu before the usual tossers run us down on the message boards.I hope we get relegated then we'll see who the true Cardiff fans are,half of them won't be anywhere to be seen.Yes I'm pissed off if you hadn't noticed ha ha.

It's fair to say I was wound up at that point (as usual when it comes to this topic), I hope we get relegated was the wrong way of putting it, what I should have said was I'd like to see who sticks around should we get relegated.

I think some of you on here are starting to believe that because we now play in red that we are Man Utd or Liverpool, we're Cardiff City in our first ever season in the Premier League and you want the manager sacked. Un f*cking believeable!

Last season Cardiff scored 4 goals V palace, after far more investment I think asking for more than two shots on target isn't too much to ask.

Malky Mackay deserves at least one season in the Premier League, he got us here yet you'd cast him off before half the season is complete?

No he doesn't, he deserves to be treated in line with how good a job he's doing. At the moment it's terrible, he's scared of Crystal Palace.

The rebrand is the reason I am boycotting but to be honest a large proportion of our current fanbase are a joke and living on another planet.

More "I'm better than you" attitude from the BU which is why they alienate so much of the fan base.

The argument I'm given when I say I would rather Tan pissed off back to Malaysia is, "who would buy the club" well I'll turn that around, "what manager would want to come to our club at the moment"? Tan turning us into a laughing stock and fans on the managers back and we're not even in the bottom three.

Hull have similar controversy, a stupid owner and less budget, doing far better and at least having a go. I've got no issue with losing but what's the point of being here if Cardiff are just going to defend for 38games.

Some idiot mentioned Gary Neville would be a good replacement and people actually agreed with him, Gary f.ucking Neville! No experience in solo first team management whatsoever, honestly the day I read that I think I lost all faith in mankind.

Getting a new manager would give Cardiff a chance of playing some better stuff, not a guarantee. Personally I'd prefer a proven manager who is known to play some attacking football.

The grass isn't always greener, remember a lot of you have sold our clubs history down the drain for the Premier League experience and now you're complaining about it ha ha, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

More "I'm better than you" attitude from the BU which is why they alienate so much of the fan base.

Your stand by Malky attitude is commendable, if fans still stand by him I get it he's done a lot of good in two and a half years especially through three very tough periods. Post DJ with no squad and the Jacks in the Prem, The rebrand and the Moody-situation. He's brought some good players to this club, changed the off field philosophy at the club from non existent to exceptional.

But we are in the Premiership and he has some responsibilities. If he isn't up to it he should go. It's all well and good playing 4-5-Atlantic Ocean-1 when you play Man City and Arsenal etc. But when it's Crystal Palace it's an absolute joke.

Good points apart from the "better than you" comments, I am boycotting, that is my choice, everyone else is entitled to theirs, doesn't mean I am going to agree with it. Not once have I said I am better than anyone.

Simon well said, "we now have loads of premier league at all costs" muppets supporting our club, they were no where to be seen in the Div 4 days !!! And if we go down they will be off like a shot, back to supporting the red shite of Liverpool and Man Utd

I think the rebrand and Tan have far more alienated our fanbase than BU could ever do...

I think the rebrand and Tan have far more alienated our fanbase than BU could ever do...

Yes of course the rebrand has done that, but wasn't BU set up to unite Cardiff fans,well as far as I can see that hasn't happened either. Wearing Blue to the games is a good of way of showing Tan how we feel