Smoking at away games

Smokers are selfish....that's the nature of addiction.

But the government love us as we bring in billions in taxes.

That is an urban legend started by smokers. You will eventually cost a hell of a lot more than you have paid in taxes. If we had to pay for private health care like they do in USA you may have a point.

On my phone but when home I'll prove you wrong but in the meantime then do some research into how much smokers cost the NHS and what they pay. You'll be surprised that with out smokers then taxes would go through the roof.

Thats why the government wouldn't ever ban smokers.

I'll be back later. Happy research

Was impressed at Stoke, they let us out at half time

Millwall let us out and so do Reading - Coventry - Bristol City. We have asked our club to adopt the same approach as the above clubs but they're not having it.

Yeah, they let us out at City. Just think they might as well at every ground, it's not causing them any issues. All they have to do is stick a few stewards outside, and it stops people breaking the law in the toilet.

People who say smokers are selfish are, to be frank, idiots. Would love to know their explanation for those comments.

How much does it cost the NHS in smoking related illnesses a year? Oh but of

in 2013, a 20 a day smoker of a premium cigarette brand will spend about £2,900 a year on cigarettes. Estimates for the total amount spent on tobacco in the UK in 2013 range from £15.3 billion to £18.3 billion.

Research commissioned by ASH in 2013 has shown that the cost to the NHS of treating
diseases caused by smoking is approximately £2.7 billion a year.

With out us smokers then instead of paying 20p in the pound then tax payers would be paying at least 40p in the pound so you non smokers want back off.

or more in the pound, 50p in the pound or more? so all these people who say us smokers should be hanged etc should think again. Us smokers give non smokers the life they live.

Anyone want a cigar

Was impressed at Stoke, they let us out at half time

Millwall let us out and so do Reading - Coventry - Bristol City. We have asked our club to adopt the same approach as the above clubs but they're not having it.

Yeah, they let us out at City. Just think they might as well at every ground, it's not causing them any issues. All they have to do is stick a few stewards outside, and it stops people breaking the law in the toilet.

People who say smokers are selfish are, to be frank, idiots. Would love to know their explanation for those comments.

How much does it cost the NHS in smoking related illnesses a year? Oh but of

in 2013, a 20 a day smoker of a premium cigarette brand will spend about £2,900 a year on cigarettes. Estimates for the total amount spent on tobacco in the UK in 2013 range from £15.3 billion to £18.3 billion.

Research commissioned by ASH in 2013 has shown that the cost to the NHS of treating
diseases caused by smoking is approximately £2.7 billion a year.

With out us smokers then instead of paying 20p in the pound then tax payers would be paying at least 40p in the pound so you non smokers want back off.

First of all the debate is why do our fans think they have the right to smoke in grounds when it is banned in grounds and secondly if you’re going to publish facts then copy and paste everything. Here are the bits you missed out......especially the bit where the actual costs are £13.74 billion. It's not just the NHS bill you have to take into consideration.


Research commissioned by ASH in 2010 has shown that the cost to the NHS of treating diseases caused by smoking is approximately £2.7 billion a year Another study put the estimated cost as high as £5.2 billion. A report by the Policy Exchange in 2010 estimated the total cost to society of smoking to be £13.74 billion. This includes the £2.7bn cost to the NHS but also the loss in productivity from smoking breaks (£2.9bn) and increased absenteeism (£2.5bn). Other costs include: cleaning up cigarette butts (£342 million), the cost of fires (£507m), the loss of economic output from the death of smokers (£4.1bn) and passive smokers (£713m).8 However, it is also estimated that about £380 million a year is being saved by the NHS as a result of public health strategies such as the ban on tobacco advertising and the creation of the stop smoking services which have resulted in fewer people smoking.

In the 2011-12 financial year the Government spent £88.2 million on the stop smoking services in England plus an additional £66.4m on medicinal aids (e.g. nicotine replacement therapy). Expenditure on mass media health campaigns on smoking in 2010-11 was £460,000

Cigarettes and other smoking materials are the primary cause of fatal accidental fires in the home and have claimed the lives of 1,231 people in the UK over the past ten years. In 2011- 12, smokers’ materials accounted for 31 deaths in Great Britain - over a third of all accidental dwelling fire deaths. Smokers’ materials are also the third biggest cause of non-fatal casualties in dwelling fires (after cooking materials and other electrical appliances). In 2011-12, there were 781 casualties.


A study commissioned by the US tobacco company Philip Morris examined the economic impact of smoking on the Czech Republic. It concluded that tobacco smoking provided a net benefit to the economy, largely because of “reduced health care costs” and “savings on pensions and housing costs for the elderly” that would not have to be paid since smokers die earlier than non-smokers. In fact, the smoking costs were shown to be 13 times greater than the ‘benefits’. A Danish study has shown that tobacco imposes a net cost to society even when taking life expectancy into consideration both in direct and indirect costs while a study of the economic effects of a decline in smoking prevalence in New South Wales, Australia, found that the only sector that would be seriously affected would be the tobacco industry.

A recent World Health Organization study found that 7.4 million lives could be saved through tobacco control measures. The biggest impact was found to be increasing cigarette taxes to 75% of their price which averted 3.5 million lives while ‘smoke-free air laws’ saved 2.5 million lives.

Was impressed at Stoke, they let us out at half time

Millwall let us out and so do Reading - Coventry - Bristol City. We have asked our club to adopt the same approach as the above clubs but they're not having it.

Yeah, they let us out at City. Just think they might as well at every ground, it's not causing them any issues. All they have to do is stick a few stewards outside, and it stops people breaking the law in the toilet.

People who say smokers are selfish are, to be frank, idiots. Would love to know their explanation for those comments.

How much does it cost the NHS in smoking related illnesses a year? Oh but of

in 2013, a 20 a day smoker of a premium cigarette brand will spend about £2,900 a year on cigarettes. Estimates for the total amount spent on tobacco in the UK in 2013 range from £15.3 billion to £18.3 billion.

Research commissioned by ASH in 2013 has shown that the cost to the NHS of treating
diseases caused by smoking is approximately £2.7 billion a year.

With out us smokers then instead of paying 20p in the pound then tax payers would be paying at least 40p in the pound so you non smokers want back off.

First of all the debate is why do our fans think they have the right to smoke in grounds when it is banned in grounds and secondly if you’re going to publish facts then copy and paste everything. Here are the bits you missed out......especially the bit where the actual costs are £13.74 billion. It's not just the NHS bill you have to take into consideration.


Research commissioned by ASH in 2010 has shown that the cost to the NHS of treating diseases caused by smoking is approximately £2.7 billion a year Another study put the estimated cost as high as £5.2 billion. A report by the Policy Exchange in 2010 estimated the total cost to society of smoking to be £13.74 billion. This includes the £2.7bn cost to the NHS but also the loss in productivity from smoking breaks (£2.9bn) and increased absenteeism (£2.5bn). Other costs include: cleaning up cigarette butts (£342 million), the cost of fires (£507m), the loss of economic output from the death of smokers (£4.1bn) and passive smokers (£713m).8 However, it is also estimated that about £380 million a year is being saved by the NHS as a result of public health strategies such as the ban on tobacco advertising and the creation of the stop smoking services which have resulted in fewer people smoking.

In the 2011-12 financial year the Government spent £88.2 million on the stop smoking services in England plus an additional £66.4m on medicinal aids (e.g. nicotine replacement therapy). Expenditure on mass media health campaigns on smoking in 2010-11 was £460,000

Cigarettes and other smoking materials are the primary cause of fatal accidental fires in the home and have claimed the lives of 1,231 people in the UK over the past ten years. In 2011- 12, smokers’ materials accounted for 31 deaths in Great Britain - over a third of all accidental dwelling fire deaths. Smokers’ materials are also the third biggest cause of non-fatal casualties in dwelling fires (after cooking materials and other electrical appliances). In 2011-12, there were 781 casualties.


A study commissioned by the US tobacco company Philip Morris examined the economic impact of smoking on the Czech Republic. It concluded that tobacco smoking provided a net benefit to the economy, largely because of “reduced health care costs” and “savings on pensions and housing costs for the elderly” that would not have to be paid since smokers die earlier than non-smokers. In fact, the smoking costs were shown to be 13 times greater than the ‘benefits’. A Danish study has shown that tobacco imposes a net cost to society even when taking life expectancy into consideration both in direct and indirect costs while a study of the economic effects of a decline in smoking prevalence in New South Wales, Australia, found that the only sector that would be seriously affected would be the tobacco industry.

A recent World Health Organization study found that 7.4 million lives could be saved through tobacco control measures. The biggest impact was found to be increasing cigarette taxes to 75% of their price which averted 3.5 million lives while ‘smoke-free air laws’ saved 2.5 million lives.

Yes you're right the debate is why the fans think it's ok to smoke in the ground but then it should be why it is alright for fans to stand when it's banned? Can't have it both ways mucker. Can't pick and choose as both are banned so why pick on the smokers?

As a smoker myself, I wouldn't dream of lighting up in my seat, even if it was allowed.

I have a designated area where I can go, and, out of consideration for other fans, will stick to that.

The electronic cigs don't bother me at all, not sure what trhe grounds rules are on them (never bothered to check them out) but if they are allowed, then they can crack on.

It's just about being considerate towards other people

Yrah, how's about we vote for FECA! The Freedom to Enjoy Clean Air