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Re: Liberty Stadium could be up for sale

Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:11 pm

DandoCCFC wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:Finally have an expansion? You been knocking on the councils door to expand but been denied many times and won't take the lower option. Surely if you was hoping to help extra fans you would take the lower option.


What "lower option" is this you speak of?


I only heard this back when you went up.. it was talk of it going on for the first season in the Prem or if you stay up and for the next season that you wanted 4,000-7,000 around there but you got turned down. The lower option was around 1,000-2,000.

I thought you would have took it even though it was low but just to get the extra supporters in.


There was no such option put forward (other than some talk last summer of changing the configuration inside the stadium regarding the press area which would have created extra seating).

The planning application that is in is for an extra 12,000 seats in 3 stages of 4,000. The issue with the application as far as I'm aware is the travel plan. To be honest I'm not surprised as public transport to the stadium is poor and parking is an issue. In the original plans there was a train station to be built at Landore to service the stadium. This was pulled though. It really needs to be built imo as it would make the whole thing a lot easier.

Re: Liberty Stadium could be up for sale

Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:15 pm

DandoCCFC wrote:
64JACK wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:Finally have an expansion? You been knocking on the councils door to expand but been denied many times and won't take the lower option. Surely if you was hoping to help extra fans you would take the lower option.


What "lower option" is this you speak of?


I only heard this back when you went up.. it was talk of it going on for the first season in the Prem or if you stay up and for the next season that you wanted 4,000-7,000 around there but you got turned down. The lower option was around 1,000-2,000.

I thought you would have took it even though it was low but just to get the extra supporters in.


This is fascinating stuff! So we've had planning permission turned down, but offered an alternative? And not one person in the whole of Swansea is aware of this, but apparently you are! :laughing6:


If you can read it means you wanted a bit too much because of whatever reason I don't know.

I wouldn't really make something like this up as it wouldn't achieve anything, it is something I heard a while back. :thumbup:


I'm not saying you are making anything up! Obviously what I'm saying is that you 'heard' but no one down this way has! Quite amazing really don't you think? What I'm suggesting here is your source of 'info' might be kind of spreading crap! :laughing6:

:o Hang on! It wasn't Sven ghalli was it? He does seem to be a fly on the wall of the Swansea boardroom! :lol:

Re: Liberty Stadium could be up for sale

Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:16 pm

The person who did tell me is a Swansea fan their self and has a family member who works for you lot. No lie on my source.

Re: Liberty Stadium could be up for sale

Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:40 pm

DandoCCFC wrote:The person who did tell me is a Swansea fan their self and has a family member who works for you lot. No lie on my source.


Your not quite getting this are you? The fundamental point here being that YOU have HEARD that planning permission has been turned down, yet not a single person in the whole of Swansea or SCFC's fanbase is aware of this! Are the alarm bells starting too ring yet? Was planning permission denied and it was kept a complete secret from everyone except your 'source of info'? C'mon my boy get that brain of yours clicked into gear! THINK THINK THINK! :lol:

Re: Liberty Stadium could be up for sale

Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:58 pm

64JACK wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:The person who did tell me is a Swansea fan their self and has a family member who works for you lot. No lie on my source.


Your not quite getting this are you? The fundamental point here being that YOU have HEARD that planning permission has been turned down, yet not a single person in the whole of Swansea or SCFC's fanbase is aware of this! Are the alarm bells starting too ring yet? Was planning permission denied and it was kept a complete secret from everyone except your 'source of info'? C'mon my boy get that brain of yours clicked into gear! THINK THINK THINK! :lol:


Well it isn't exactly something Swansea City would want to release as major news?

Re: Liberty Stadium could be up for sale

Sat Dec 07, 2013 12:11 am

DandoCCFC wrote:
64JACK wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:The person who did tell me is a Swansea fan their self and has a family member who works for you lot. No lie on my source.


Your not quite getting this are you? The fundamental point here being that YOU have HEARD that planning permission has been turned down, yet not a single person in the whole of Swansea or SCFC's fanbase is aware of this! Are the alarm bells starting too ring yet? Was planning permission denied and it was kept a complete secret from everyone except your 'source of info'? C'mon my boy get that brain of yours clicked into gear! THINK THINK THINK! :lol:


Well it isn't exactly something Swansea City would want to release as major news?


Local media attend planning committee meetings as a matter of course. Are you saying that a public decision (which is what it would have to have been to meet what you're suggesting) wouldn't have made the press?

Seriously?

Re: Liberty Stadium could be up for sale

Sat Dec 07, 2013 12:27 am

64JACK wrote:
Aramore wrote:
PremierJacks wrote:
llangainbluebird wrote:
scotsjack wrote:If there was any truth behind this, then it will be the Swans who buy it. Smart move by the council, sell it on to the football club and then they wont cop the blame off the Ospreys fans when they move on back to the Gnoll or St.Helens?

Everyone is a winner, Council dodge the flak and swell the coffers a bit, Swans can finally look at expansion on their own terms, Ospreys get to play their matches at grounds that reflect attendances.


All sounds very fair. Best thing Tan has done with us is get rid of the egg-chasers. I went to see Wales v Austria at the Liberty back in February, and was surprised to see all the egg stuff in the stadium. Had forgotten that they were still there. They can't be doing your paying surface any good!


Voted best pitch in the Premiership by other clubs last year!


Not quite true though is it?


You were voted Grounds staff of the year because of how well they cope with the Rugby.


I'm afraid too say that it is true. Yes the rugby is taken into account but it's not the only contributing factor. And indeed it does stand as the only award there is of it's type. Arsenal won it the year before. You only need to google 'best playing surface in the premier league'. ;)

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news ... award.html

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news ... award.html


That says groundsman of the year award as I said :?

And it even says that the fact that the rugby was there was a major point in picking the liberty.

Re: Liberty Stadium could be up for sale

Sat Dec 07, 2013 12:29 am

Aramore wrote:
64JACK wrote:
Aramore wrote:
PremierJacks wrote:
llangainbluebird wrote:
scotsjack wrote:If there was any truth behind this, then it will be the Swans who buy it. Smart move by the council, sell it on to the football club and then they wont cop the blame off the Ospreys fans when they move on back to the Gnoll or St.Helens?

Everyone is a winner, Council dodge the flak and swell the coffers a bit, Swans can finally look at expansion on their own terms, Ospreys get to play their matches at grounds that reflect attendances.


All sounds very fair. Best thing Tan has done with us is get rid of the egg-chasers. I went to see Wales v Austria at the Liberty back in February, and was surprised to see all the egg stuff in the stadium. Had forgotten that they were still there. They can't be doing your paying surface any good!


Voted best pitch in the Premiership by other clubs last year!


Not quite true though is it?


You were voted Grounds staff of the year because of how well they cope with the Rugby.


I'm afraid too say that it is true. Yes the rugby is taken into account but it's not the only contributing factor. And indeed it does stand as the only award there is of it's type. Arsenal won it the year before. You only need to google 'best playing surface in the premier league'. ;)

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news ... award.html

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news ... award.html


That says groundsman of the year award as I said :?

And it even says that the fact that the rugby was there was a major point in picking the liberty.


Out of interest then, which Premier League club won best pitch of the year? Not being funny, just wondering if there is a separate award.

Re: Liberty Stadium could be up for sale

Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:21 am

DANDO the troll looking silly again. :laughing6:

Re: Liberty Stadium could be up for sale

Sat Dec 07, 2013 3:18 pm

Aramore wrote:
64JACK wrote:
Aramore wrote:
PremierJacks wrote:
llangainbluebird wrote:
scotsjack wrote:If there was any truth behind this, then it will be the Swans who buy it. Smart move by the council, sell it on to the football club and then they wont cop the blame off the Ospreys fans when they move on back to the Gnoll or St.Helens?

Everyone is a winner, Council dodge the flak and swell the coffers a bit, Swans can finally look at expansion on their own terms, Ospreys get to play their matches at grounds that reflect attendances.


All sounds very fair. Best thing Tan has done with us is get rid of the egg-chasers. I went to see Wales v Austria at the Liberty back in February, and was surprised to see all the egg stuff in the stadium. Had forgotten that they were still there. They can't be doing your paying surface any good!


Voted best pitch in the Premiership by other clubs last year!


Not quite true though is it?


You were voted Grounds staff of the year because of how well they cope with the Rugby.


I'm afraid too say that it is true. Yes the rugby is taken into account but it's not the only contributing factor. And indeed it does stand as the only award there is of it's type. Arsenal won it the year before. You only need to google 'best playing surface in the premier league'. ;)

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news ... award.html

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news ... award.html


That says groundsman of the year award as I said :?

And it even says that the fact that the rugby was there was a major point in picking the liberty.


Read the second paragraph, you tool

Re: Liberty Stadium could be up for sale

Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:00 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:DANDO the troll looking silly again. :laughing6:


Not at all.

Re: Liberty Stadium could be up for sale

Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:46 pm

DandoCCFC wrote:The person who did tell me is a Swansea fan their self and has a family member who works for you lot. No lie on my source.


I swear I read a jacks post a few years back saying the Liability could only get expanded to 22k due to the way it was built. :shock:

Re: Liberty Stadium could be up for sale

Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:08 pm

Bridgend_bluebird wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:The person who did tell me is a Swansea fan their self and has a family member who works for you lot. No lie on my source.


I swear I read a jacks post a few years back saying the Liability could only get expanded to 22k due to the way it was built. :shock:

I swear I read on here that milky oneye was the best young manager in the country. Moral of the story is the majority of stuff posted on here is horse shit.

Re: Liberty Stadium could be up for sale

Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:07 pm

NJ73 wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:Finally have an expansion? You been knocking on the councils door to expand but been denied many times and won't take the lower option. Surely if you was hoping to help extra fans you would take the lower option.


What "lower option" is this you speak of?


I only heard this back when you went up.. it was talk of it going on for the first season in the Prem or if you stay up and for the next season that you wanted 4,000-7,000 around there but you got turned down. The lower option was around 1,000-2,000.

I thought you would have took it even though it was low but just to get the extra supporters in.


There was no such option put forward (other than some talk last summer of changing the configuration inside the stadium regarding the press area which would have created extra seating).


The planning application that is in is for an extra 12,000 seats in 3 stages of 4,000. The issue with the application as far as I'm aware is the travel plan. To be honest I'm not surprised as public transport to the stadium is poor and parking is an issue. In the original plans there was a train station to be built at Landore to service the stadium. This was pulled though. It really needs to be built imo as it would make the whole thing a lot easier.


There was a request to increase the West Stand by 1200 seats but this was dropped when a application to increase the stadium by 11000 was submitted

Re: Liberty Stadium could be up for sale

Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:11 pm

The plans have been scaled back marginally according to this...

http://www.thisissouthwales.co.uk/Stadi ... z2n0QwgF4y

http://www.jacksons-security.co.uk/News ... -2690.aspx

looks like they won't start until next year at best (1st phase) - maybe ready for 15/16 season ?

Sensible way of doing things, similar to our expansion in 3 stages - although I don't expect we'll get as far as the 3rd stage, I'd be surprised if there was demand for 43000 here, unless things really take off.