" I can not believe Some of our fans ? "

The whole point about this season is staying up.....A good hard earned point on the road should be viewed as a point gained.

There is a lot of negativity with a section of our fan base.....what where they expecting that we would be challenging for Europe? This club has come along way in the past 13 years from Division 3 to the Premier league.

Malky has assembled a squad that will compete at this level and as long as we are safe before we play Chelsea ....I'll be happy

I can't believe that people are actually calling for him to be replaced, The only manager that has actually delivered top flight football in the past 52 years, we may not play champagne football but one thing is guarnateed he has got a squad that will fight to keep us there.

we should never get rid of Malky, he is doing a great job! But Stoke were there for the taking last night, they couldn't hit the target! We should of attacked them! Whittingham had a bad game, Gunnarsson wasn't in it! Should of got Noone on the pitch! I was disappointed to leave with a point! It will be a tougher game Saturday. Other teams are picking up wins and we are drawing games. We need to some points on the board.

Gunnarsson was the Western mail reporters "star man"!!!!!!!!!!

I cannot recall him doing anything, like Cowie.

ps. Time for Cowie now to sit out

Just got back from Stoke.

I am happy with a draw away

Scrappy/battling game/Fair result in my opinion.

But some of our fans moaning saying the result not good enough
A few saying sack Malky and on here and other forum
But everyone is allowed their opinions/beliefs, I am just shocked by them on this.


First of all a point away in the Premier League to a team above us in my opinion is a good point, as long as we beat teams like Stoke at home

As to saying Sack Malky, what planet are some fans on? Malky in his 3rd season as our manager has brought us nothing but success after success and deserves this full season no matter what happens in my opinion.

So Malky makes mistakes, dont all managers?

Malky is still learning is he not?

So if we sack Malky, whats plan B?

Do these players not give their all for Malky?

Is it not so long ago that Malky won the Championship at a canter,short memories?

Another question to everyone, what do u think Stoke fans will be thinking? Surely they would of expected to beat Cardiff City at home?


Does Malky or not stand up when its needed and get us over the final hurdle, Promotion,wins against clubs like Man City/Jacks, draw against Man United and grind out results at places like Hull & Stoke ?

Surely Malky deserves this full season?

Annis, you must be easily pleased is all I can say. Stoke last night, were there for the taking, no argument, so were we, come to that and neither manager had the balls or confidence in his team to go all out for it. If we took 3 pts last night, that takes the pressure off the next game. Moving onto Saturday, play like that against Palace and they will do us, IF that happens then we come away with 1 point from two winnable games. Now, there's a lot of ifs and buts there but it's my belief that you have to take all the points when the opportunity presents itself and we didn't try to do that last night. As you say, I really hope Malky is learning from these experiences.

What do u think Stoke fans will be thinking? Surely they would of expected to beat Cardiff City at home?
I never said the football was pretty or good, I said a point was good away from home, Stoke prob thought we were there for the taking?

As to easily pleased, prob I am after 9 years in the fourth division travelling to Hartlepool and Darlington 7 times each.

Annis, I completely disagree.

We were terrible last night, worse than Stoke - and that's saying something. If they had a decent striker it could have been 3 or 4-0. Whittingham and Medel were terrible in particular.

I rarely criticise Malky but I think he got his tactics completely wrong last night. I couldn't understand why he didn't go for the win at a place like Stoke. Even more in the second half when the game could have gone either way.

We deserved nothing from yesterday, and had we lost then I don't think Malky could have had any complaints.

Only positive was how loud us fans were at times, and great to see us all and the team wearing blue.

Apart from the result, it was a great away day.

We have to improve a lot if we're to get anything at Palace - and we need a win.

Annis malky plays shit football week in week out people want more for there custom, you mention plan B yet I don't know if malky knows what that means, its the most boring football I've seen for years, yes we got a point but if we can not string 5 passes together vs teams around us down there we are fucked.

This is the thing that grates the most. How is Malky to blame for our players not being about to string a few passes together?

Annis malky plays shit football week in week out people want more for there custom, you mention plan B yet I don't know if malky knows what that means, its the most boring football I've seen for years, yes we got a point but if we can not string 5 passes together vs teams around us down there we are fucked.

This is the thing that grates the most. How is Malky to blame for our players not being about to string a few passes together?

Who the f**k is to blame for the way we set up and combine with each other then?

Dave Jones?

Says the one who is happy to make up and stir things up with getting Malky saked just to get hits to generate views and money? Annis if you honestly believed on Malky you would stop making crap lies about him getting sacked in the near future. Hypocritical to say the least.

although i can see your sentiments do you think a loss against palace and a draw against west brom would not see malky pushed out the door.
i believe the moment we were to drop into the bottom three tan would push the panic button and malky would be gone

I have to agree with Steve on this one although I think we are doing OK, I do think if we drop into the bottom 3 then Tan will pull the trigger. I hope not as in my opinion last night was a good point gained against a very physical team and after all our target this year is to stay up by hook or by crook. If ugly football is what it takes at times then i'm on board!

Says the one who is happy to make up and stir things up with getting Malky saked just to get hits to generate views and money? Annis if you honestly believed on Malky you would stop making crap lies about him getting sacked in the near future. Hypocritical to say the least.

although i can see your sentiments do you think a loss against palace and a draw against west brom would not see malky pushed out the door.
i believe the moment we were to drop into the bottom three tan would push the panic button and malky would be gone

Dando,

One thing I am not is a liar, so your totally on the wrong forum.

Malicious name calling is not for this forum, debate/opinions are

Everything I have posted and stated is either true or I honestly believe to be true.

Steve, you know me and you also know the truth

Says the one who is happy to make up and stir things up with getting Malky saked just to get hits to generate views and money? Annis if you honestly believed on Malky you would stop making crap lies about him getting sacked in the near future. Hypocritical to say the least.

although i can see your sentiments do you think a loss against palace and a draw against west brom would not see malky pushed out the door.
i believe the moment we were to drop into the bottom three tan would push the panic button and malky would be gone

Dando,

One thing I am not is a liar, so your totally on the wrong forum.

Malicious name calling is not for this forum, debate/opinions are

Everything I have posted and stated is either true or I honestly believe to be true.

Steve, you know me and you also know the truth

i agree with you annis a good point and one less we need for premier league football next season.I also echo what Steve says regarding what tan will do if we drop into the bottom three,hopefully it doesn't come to that.
As for dando,well he wears his sisters Hollister gear,enough said.

It's a decent point and moves us up the table a little. There is some pressure now for the palace game as I don't think 2 or 1 pt from the two games would be good enough

It's a decent point and moves us up the table a little. There is some pressure now for the palace game as I don't think 2 or 1 pt from the two games would be good enough

yeah we heard you first time kev

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Anthony Rivers(City Gent) You're spot on Annis. Unfortunately for some of our so-called fans everything is black and white. It's the usual suspects every game. Some aren't educated enough to appreciate we've got a good manager who is in his first season in the top flight. I did notice more positivity on the forum last night though.
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Anthony John Morse well boys, after reading some of the comments. what we should check is how many promoted teams r regulated the first season. dunno about u but id be happy with 17th place. staying up should be our goal this season.
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Barry Murphy Im a huge malky fan and survival is my only wish this season. Have to agree tho that last nite and villa away were both games we could hav won with a bit more attacking. Lack of pace and creativity is a concern for me. Not great to watch at times
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Wayne Dibs Anderson Agree Barry
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Anthony Rivers(City Gent) There's a huge difference in realising we have a few issues to deal with like the above, or to want him sacked every game, which some of our beauts do. We've got the foundations of a good top flight side but I don't think Malky will be here to complete the job. Surprised he's lasted this long tbh!
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Dave Lewis we've proved we can more than up hold our own up there,Malky's doing a great job little negative at times but still grabbing points.we desperately need to get another striker who can hold the ball up and pull two out wide,everything's going through the middle and it's to congested.think i'd have kept hold of mason and harris just for there pace and both great players,would thrive on the big stage.BLOOOOOOOOOOBIRDS
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Steve Day Points make prizes
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Jamie Rees It's all well and good saying it was a good point v stoke last night but i traveled to villa and stoke and both games were there for us to win if we wanted it but Malky was happy to try to hang on for a point in both from the 1st minute .... We came a...See More
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ffs guys enjoy the prem while it lasts it could and has been a lot worse
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The whole point about this season is staying up.....A good hard earned point on the road should be viewed as a point gained.

There is a lot of negativity with a section of our fan base.....what where they expecting that we would be challenging for Europe? This club has come along way in the past 13 years from Division 3 to the Premier league.

Malky has assembled a squad that will compete at this level and as long as we are safe before we play Chelsea ....I'll be happy

I can't believe that people are actually calling for him to be replaced, The only manager that has actually delivered top flight football in the past 52 years, we may not play champagne football but one thing is guarnateed he has got a squad that will fight to keep us there.

How many of our managers in the last 52 years were at the top end of the Championship and given 10 million to spend?

The whole point about this season is staying up.....A good hard earned point on the road should be viewed as a point gained.

There is a lot of negativity with a section of our fan base.....what where they expecting that we would be challenging for Europe? This club has come along way in the past 13 years from Division 3 to the Premier league.

Malky has assembled a squad that will compete at this level and as long as we are safe before we play Chelsea ....I'll be happy

I can't believe that people are actually calling for him to be replaced, The only manager that has actually delivered top flight football in the past 52 years, we may not play champagne football but one thing is guarnateed he has got a squad that will fight to keep us there.

How many of our managers in the last 52 years were at the top end of the Championship and given 10 million to spend?

Exactly. People jsut want to forget this as it means giving Tan credit. Annis especially.

Annis malky plays shit football week in week out people want more for there custom, you mention plan B yet I don't know if malky knows what that means, its the most boring football I've seen for years, yes we got a point but if we can not string 5 passes together vs teams around us down there we are fucked.

This is the thing that grates the most. How is Malky to blame for our players not being about to string a few passes together?

There all malkys players, his set up, no width at all lastnight was dreadfull be honest. f**k me for 20grand a week you would think its possible for a few players to pass a ball to eachother but it don't help when we are camped on our own 18yard line so revert to hoofing it back to them.

Annis malky plays shit football week in week out people want more for there custom, you mention plan B yet I don't know if malky knows what that means, its the most boring football I've seen for years, yes we got a point but if we can not string 5 passes together vs teams around us down there we are fucked.

This is the thing that grates the most. How is Malky to blame for our players not being about to string a few passes together?

Who the f**k is to blame for the way we set up and combine with each other then?

Dave Jones?

Atleast jones knew how to attack but we will blame him as it couldn't be the team that malky bought now could it or him.

Annis malky plays shit football week in week out people want more for there custom, you mention plan B yet I don't know if malky knows what that means, its the most boring football I've seen for years, yes we got a point but if we can not string 5 passes together vs teams around us down there we are fucked.

This is the thing that grates the most. How is Malky to blame for our players not being about to string a few passes together?

Who the f**k is to blame for the way we set up and combine with each other then?

Dave Jones?

Atleast jones knew how to attack but we will blame him as it couldn't be the team that malky bought now could it or him.

Why you care you support Villa?

I am thankful for Malky getting us promoted, he got the job done, when many others wouldn't have, even with the extra funds given him by VT. However, lets get things in perspective, our little brothers down the road have got promoted, won a cup, got into Europe and generally play a very attractive brand of football and under 3 different managers. So, that is proof that it is possible to deliver both exciting, attractive and winning football and the fact that they have done it under different managers also proofs that its the system and not the individual that is important.
It's laughable how some of our supporters are calling for Malky to be sacked but just as laughable to be saying that Malky deserves a full season no matter what This is a results driven business that should also be entertaining, if Malky fails to live up to achieving the right results, then he will inevitably be shown the door and IMO rightly so. We aren't adding another 5000 seats to grind out a season in the Championship. Personally, I have faith that Malky will keep us fairly comfortably in this division, as he has the personality to be a top manager, however, that doesn't mean that some of his tactics can't be questioned. He was too negative last night and IMO gaining too many draws when wins are definately a possibilty brings its own unwanted pressures.

Annis malky plays shit football week in week out people want more for there custom, you mention plan B yet I don't know if malky knows what that means, its the most boring football I've seen for years, yes we got a point but if we can not string 5 passes together vs teams around us down there we are fucked.

This is the thing that grates the most. How is Malky to blame for our players not being about to string a few passes together?

Who the f**k is to blame for the way we set up and combine with each other then?

Dave Jones?

Atleast jones knew how to attack but we will blame him as it couldn't be the team that malky bought now could it or him.

Why you care you support Villa?

oh my god you got me then how do you know these things, I nearly believed you for a second then but realised your names frank butcher on here who's a chelsea fan so why do you care, where's this board finding such whoopers like you who claim I'm a villa fan.

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Barry Murphy Id love to see malky get a full season but we all know what VT is like. He probably expects us to be challenging for champions league places. Do wanna see a bit more positivity in our play mind. Toothless last nite
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Paul Ccfc Ames Dean Gover.
I agree with you on that.
Before every one jumps down my throat. I think Malky has done an amazing job so far but I do think we would benefit from a more experienced premiership manager.
Malky plays a defensive game and we lack any ambition up front. We can't keep relying on Campbell all the time we should have 2 upfront more often.
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Annis Abraham Jnr Barry, I believe and feel Malky deserves this whole season no matter what, how would u feel if Tan replaces Malky and we are relegated?
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Annis Abraham Jnr Leigh, I agree we need to be more adventurous, hopefully Malky will and I do believe he is not stubborn and has a plan B.
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Barry Murphy I agree. He deserves a full chance but persnally think he wont be there come january. Purely down to tan's madness. However if er dont pick up a win before xmas, will feelings change towards malky?
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Dean Gover How would you feel if tan didn't replace malky and we are relegated
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Annis Abraham Jnr Barry, Sadly I believe the same, Mad man Tan will sack Malky sooner than later.
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Annis Abraham Jnr Barry, I reckon if we dropped in the bottom 3 fans would turn on Malky, I wont.
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Leigh Boulter vt prob wont do anything till next years season tickets are sold being a business man an not a footie fan !
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Lee Beames Malkey sets city up the way he does because he has not got the personnel to play a more attacking game ..I don't mean in his strikers which are not to bad at this level . He does not play 442 because he does not have enough in midfield to play with onl...See More
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Leigh Boulter dalman now saying they dont have anyone on the board that has a football brain haha
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Paul Ccfc Ames There is no room for sentiment in football if Malky does not start to get wins then there is every chance he won't be here all season. He spent 30m and for that sort of money plus the players we already had he should be getting better results.
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John Robinson Should recall sum the players who took us up noone will b a great start
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Glenn Agnew Couldn't have said it better myself. In malky we trust
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Anthony Rivers Agree with that Lee Beames. There is strong talk of the Montero deal already wrapped up and also a Mexican left back. I wouldn't be surprised if we get another striker in. Cornelius is a work in progress and doubtful he'll get much game time this season
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Before the game I'd have settled for a point away from home on a cold Wednesday night in Stoke.
During and after the game however, it was plain to see for all the travelling fans that Stoke were a fecking awful, shambles of a team, who were there for the taking. They were easily the worst team we have played this season.

Ok, Malky likes to set the team up to be tight and not concede. I can live with that to a point. He likes to play a lone striker who runs himself into the ground for 60-70 minutes and then gets replaced with fresh legs. Yeah we know all about that one. He also prefers to play industrious mid fielders rather than flair players wide. This sometimes works when we come up against better opposition but rarely when we play similar quality sides.
My gripe with Malky (and I'm still happy he's the man for the job) is that he doesn't have the tactical intelligence or flexibility to change the tactics when the opportunity is there to be taken. He's like a striker who passes up the chance to shoot when put in the clear. He's simply too cautious.
Everyone could see that Whittingham was having a mare last night, although he wasn't the only one. Why couldn't he have given Noone half an hour to run at Stoke and create something positive? No one's suggesting we go all gung ho and throw all the good work away but we have to have other options when Plan A isn't good enough.
On the way home last night in the car it felt like a defeat rather than a point earned. That could be a reflection on how far we've come as a club or the realisation that teams like Stoke need to be put to the sword when they are obviously short on confidence and form.
Rant over, onwards to Palarse. Please Malky show us that you've got more than one string to your bow on Saturday.

Before the game I'd have settled for a point away from home on a cold Wednesday night in Stoke.
During and after the game however, it was plain to see for all the travelling fans that Stoke were a fecking awful, shambles of a team, who were there for the taking. They were easily the worst team we have played this season.

Ok, Malky likes to set the team up to be tight and not concede. I can live with that to a point. He likes to play a lone striker who runs himself into the ground for 60-70 minutes and then gets replaced with fresh legs. Yeah we know all about that one. He also prefers to play industrious mid fielders rather than flair players wide. This sometimes works when we come up against better opposition but rarely when we play similar quality sides.
My gripe with Malky (and I'm still happy he's the man for the job) is that he doesn't have the tactical intelligence or flexibility to change the tactics when the opportunity is there to be taken. He's like a striker who passes up the chance to shoot when put in the clear. He's simply too cautious.
Everyone could see that Whittingham was having a mare last night, although he wasn't the only one. Why couldn't he have given Noone half an hour to run at Stoke and create something positive? No one's suggesting we go all gung ho and throw all the good work away but we have to have other options when Plan A isn't good enough.
On the way home last night in the car it felt like a defeat rather than a point earned. That could be a reflection on how far we've come as a club or the realisation that teams like Stoke need to be put to the sword when they are obviously short on confidence and form.
Rant over, onwards to Palarse. Please Malky show us that you've got more than one string to your bow on Saturday.

Great post. One of the best ive read since last night.

Just got back from Stoke.

I am happy with a draw away

Scrappy/battling game/Fair result in my opinion.

But some of our fans moaning saying the result not good enough
A few saying sack Malky and on here and other forum
But everyone is allowed their opinions/beliefs, I am just shocked by them on this.


First of all a point away in the Premier League to a team above us in my opinion is a good point, as long as we beat teams like Stoke at home

As to saying Sack Malky, what planet are some fans on? Malky in his 3rd season as our manager has brought us nothing but success after success and deserves this full season no matter what happens in my opinion.

So Malky makes mistakes, dont all managers?

Malky is still learning is he not?

So if we sack Malky, whats plan B?

Do these players not give their all for Malky?

Is it not so long ago that Malky won the Championship at a canter,short memories?

Another question to everyone, what do u think Stoke fans will be thinking? Surely they would of expected to beat Cardiff City at home?


Does Malky or not stand up when its needed and get us over the final hurdle, Promotion,wins against clubs like Man City/Jacks, draw against Man United and grind out results at places like Hull & Stoke ?

Surely Malky deserves this full season?

Yes he does whats more thought we should have a pen and Twaty Adams should have walked, we are not getting the rub of green this season. Malky is the best thing to happen to this club, since Jimmy Schoular.

Annis malky plays shit football week in week out people want more for there custom, you mention plan B yet I don't know if malky knows what that means, its the most boring football I've seen for years, yes we got a point but if we can not string 5 passes together vs teams around us down there we are fucked.

This is the thing that grates the most. How is Malky to blame for our players not being about to string a few passes together?

Who the f**k is to blame for the way we set up and combine with each other then?

Dave Jones?

Atleast jones knew how to attack but we will blame him as it couldn't be the team that malky bought now could it or him.

Why you care you support Villa?

oh my god you got me then how do you know these things, I nearly believed you for a second then but realised your names frank butcher on here who's a chelsea fan so why do you care, where's this board finding such whoopers like you who claim I'm a villa fan.

It's well known your support villa give it a rest your not kidding any1

Just for interest I had a look at the sjoke oatcake board and we are easily the worst team they have seen, we were there for the taking and will be relegated - on the other hand they do from time to time acknowledge that we had the best chances! Walking away from the ground comments like 'Cardiff were up for it' and 'x player was bullied' made me laugh.

What would most of you had been saying if we had lost?

Whitts didn't have the best game but he never hid and kept playing. To be fair that can be applied to the team as a whole. Mutch was knackered toward the end given the running he had done (my man of the match)but he kept going (with Malky shouting in his earhole all the time!).

I had more than a few groans at some of the passing and it wasn't pretty but it is horses for courses. Can't have been better than a 40/60 to take off a midfielder and put on Noone in a late attempt to win the game but a loss would have been devastating.

I think Fraser was taken off to save him for Saturday.

The whole point about this season is staying up.....A good hard earned point on the road should be viewed as a point gained.

There is a lot of negativity with a section of our fan base.....what where they expecting that we would be challenging for Europe? This club has come along way in the past 13 years from Division 3 to the Premier league.

Malky has assembled a squad that will compete at this level and as long as we are safe before we play Chelsea ....I'll be happy

I can't believe that people are actually calling for him to be replaced, The only manager that has actually delivered top flight football in the past 52 years, we may not play champagne football but one thing is guarnateed he has got a squad that will fight to keep us there.

How many of our managers in the last 52 years were at the top end of the Championship and given 10 million to spend?

What has that got to do with it? Malky used his budget well last season & got us promoted as champions whilst teams like Leicester, Forest & Wolves spent heavily and did not achieve promotion

Dave Jones assembled a team that should have walked the championship in 2010 - 2011he was backed heavily in the loan market - If Malky had that side we would have gone up

Annis malky plays shit football week in week out people want more for there custom, you mention plan B yet I don't know if malky knows what that means, its the most boring football I've seen for years, yes we got a point but if we can not string 5 passes together vs teams around us down there we are fucked.

This is the thing that grates the most. How is Malky to blame for our players not being about to string a few passes together?

Who the f**k is to blame for the way we set up and combine with each other then?

Dave Jones?

Atleast jones knew how to attack but we will blame him as it couldn't be the team that malky bought now could it or him.

Why you care you support Villa?

oh my god you got me then how do you know these things, I nearly believed you for a second then but realised your names frank butcher on here who's a chelsea fan so why do you care, where's this board finding such whoopers like you who claim I'm a villa fan.

It's well known your support villa give it a rest your not kidding any1

Yes clearly thats why i spend my past time on a city forum now and then with over 12k posts, i guess many people can vouch for you on here to.......NOT

Annis malky plays shit football week in week out people want more for there custom, you mention plan B yet I don't know if malky knows what that means, its the most boring football I've seen for years, yes we got a point but if we can not string 5 passes together vs teams around us down there we are fucked.

Sums it up perfectly

The whole point about this season is staying up.....A good hard earned point on the road should be viewed as a point gained.

There is a lot of negativity with a section of our fan base.....what where they expecting that we would be challenging for Europe? This club has come along way in the past 13 years from Division 3 to the Premier league.

Malky has assembled a squad that will compete at this level and as long as we are safe before we play Chelsea ....I'll be happy

I can't believe that people are actually calling for him to be replaced, The only manager that has actually delivered top flight football in the past 52 years, we may not play champagne football but one thing is guarnateed he has got a squad that will fight to keep us there.

How many of our managers in the last 52 years were at the top end of the Championship and given 10 million to spend?

What has that got to do with it? Malky used his budget well last season & got us promoted as champions whilst teams like Leicester, Forest & Wolves spent heavily and did not achieve promotion

Dave Jones assembled a team that should have walked the championship in 2010 - 2011he was backed heavily in the loan market - If Malky had that side we would have gone up

The fact is that we weren't in the Championship for 52 years and we were not a top Championship side all the time when we were in there. If Dave Jones was given 10 million Im sure he'd have taken us up.

Being backed in the loan market is nothing like being given 10 million to spend.

Annis malky plays shit football week in week out people want more for there custom, you mention plan B yet I don't know if malky knows what that means, its the most boring football I've seen for years, yes we got a point but if we can not string 5 passes together vs teams around us down there we are fucked.

Sums it up perfectly

Thats called being negative on here by most you know as where i call it being real