Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:40 am
Bluebird_87 wrote:paulh_85 wrote:Bluebird_87 wrote:paulh_85 wrote:Upset that ive had to come to this conclusion after todays game as I like him as a man, and as a manager he will have a successful career for another 20 years im sure..... but this football is killng me. Its not the result, as a point away to stoke is fine. Its the manner of the way they went about it. Not just the performance which was dreadful. But the set up, lact of change of approach. Reluctantness to bring on any subs to alter the game and willingnes to apparently accept 0-0 every away game is boring me to tears.
Malky may well keep us up..... just..... but I want more, and with the money we spent we should be getting it.
About today's match.... how f*cking hard is it for a professional footballer to cross the ball higher than 6ft for fucks sake! Pure, pure dreadful game! Might have snatched it with a penalty, but got more than we deserved as it was!
I really, really don't understand where you want us to finish? We are a newly promoted club, playing in a new league, pundits and bookies go against us every single game, yet we come away from places like hull, Norwich and stoke with a point and you want malky gone? Safety is the key this year, not top 10. It's a work in progress. Sounding like one of them arsenal/ man utd fans I work with who want a change of manager every time they don't win the champions league.
where i want, or rather expect us to finish is 13th.
And we're 15th? Jesus Christ, we're well on course for that. Stop being so fickle.
Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:44 am
paulh_85 wrote:Bluebird_87 wrote:paulh_85 wrote:Bluebird_87 wrote:paulh_85 wrote:Upset that ive had to come to this conclusion after todays game as I like him as a man, and as a manager he will have a successful career for another 20 years im sure..... but this football is killng me. Its not the result, as a point away to stoke is fine. Its the manner of the way they went about it. Not just the performance which was dreadful. But the set up, lact of change of approach. Reluctantness to bring on any subs to alter the game and willingnes to apparently accept 0-0 every away game is boring me to tears.
Malky may well keep us up..... just..... but I want more, and with the money we spent we should be getting it.
About today's match.... how f*cking hard is it for a professional footballer to cross the ball higher than 6ft for fucks sake! Pure, pure dreadful game! Might have snatched it with a penalty, but got more than we deserved as it was!
I really, really don't understand where you want us to finish? We are a newly promoted club, playing in a new league, pundits and bookies go against us every single game, yet we come away from places like hull, Norwich and stoke with a point and you want malky gone? Safety is the key this year, not top 10. It's a work in progress. Sounding like one of them arsenal/ man utd fans I work with who want a change of manager every time they don't win the champions league.
where i want, or rather expect us to finish is 13th.
And we're 15th? Jesus Christ, we're well on course for that. Stop being so fickle.
its not fickle though is it? as i said, im expecting 13th, where we are in the league now doesnt really matter. 4 points above the relegation zone with a crucial game coming up saturday.
Said a few times in this thread that i think Malky will keep us up with these tactics, now for some, that will be enough. But for me we have brought in two players in Caulker and Medel who are above the level we are currently at, and are being let down but a total lack of inability further up the field. An inability that 50% of the players not being good enough at this level, and 50% malkys approach to football.
Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:50 am
Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:53 am
Bluebird1977 wrote:Here f*cking here pal, as I'm now just a customer for the club as vincent kindly reminded us all, I want to be entertained watching the games but there's more entertainment in watching a fly buzzing about in your living room after the missis left the front door open, we are shocking so f**k MM off and have a go atleast so I can be entertained this season.
Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:54 am
paulh_85 wrote:i do get behind the team, and will be at my 4th away game this season on saturday. Why are no negative/constructive views allowed exactly?
We were a championship winning team by 8 points by the way. Swansea and Norwich southampton and West ham. Neither of these teams won the championship but finished 11th, 12th, 14th and 10th respectivly in their first seasons in the premier league.
on top of this we spent 20m building a solid base, two great signings that will ultimately keep us in the league. I apologise to you for wanting a little more however, not perhaps in terms of results and league position, but certainly in terms of performance.
Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:55 am
Bluebird_87 wrote:paulh_85 wrote:i do get behind the team, and will be at my 4th away game this season on saturday. Why are no negative/constructive views allowed exactly?
We were a championship winning team by 8 points by the way. Swansea and Norwich southampton and West ham. Neither of these teams won the championship but finished 11th, 12th, 14th and 10th respectivly in their first seasons in the premier league.
on top of this we spent 20m building a solid base, two great signings that will ultimately keep us in the league. I apologise to you for wanting a little more however, not perhaps in terms of results and league position, but certainly in terms of performance.
You have a funny way of showing it at times. Yes we can expect more, but how are teams who also got promoted got on? Lets judge us towards of the end of the season. It's obvious how malky is setting up. Go for it at home and to contain away. I couldn't care less how other teams have done, we can only concentrate on ourselves. The priority this year is survival and if we do that, then it's objective met.
Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:57 am
paulh_85 wrote:Bluebird_87 wrote:paulh_85 wrote:i do get behind the team, and will be at my 4th away game this season on saturday. Why are no negative/constructive views allowed exactly?
We were a championship winning team by 8 points by the way. Swansea and Norwich southampton and West ham. Neither of these teams won the championship but finished 11th, 12th, 14th and 10th respectivly in their first seasons in the premier league.
on top of this we spent 20m building a solid base, two great signings that will ultimately keep us in the league. I apologise to you for wanting a little more however, not perhaps in terms of results and league position, but certainly in terms of performance.
You have a funny way of showing it at times. Yes we can expect more, but how are teams who also got promoted got on? Lets judge us towards of the end of the season. It's obvious how malky is setting up. Go for it at home and to contain away. I couldn't care less how other teams have done, we can only concentrate on ourselves. The priority this year is survival and if we do that, then it's objective met.
that wouldnt be my objective if im honest. With what we have spend staying up shouldnt be in question.
Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:01 pm
nobody wants to buy it now as the plastic manc fans will be back next season, as a customer unlike you I want entertainment watching city not div 2 standard football weekly as if we are playing in a gale force wind tactic with the hoofing.Arrow wrote:Bluebird1977 wrote:Here f*cking here pal, as I'm now just a customer for the club as vincent kindly reminded us all, I want to be entertained watching the games but there's more entertainment in watching a fly buzzing about in your living room after the missis left the front door open, we are shocking so f**k MM off and have a go atleast so I can be entertained this season.
Don't watch it then, i forgot you don't you sell your ticket instead
Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:12 pm
Bluebird1977 wrote:nobody wants to buy it now as the plastic manc fans will be back next season, as a customer unlike you I want entertainment watching city not div 2 standard football weekly as if we are playing in a gale force wind tactic with the hoofing.Arrow wrote:Bluebird1977 wrote:Here f*cking here pal, as I'm now just a customer for the club as vincent kindly reminded us all, I want to be entertained watching the games but there's more entertainment in watching a fly buzzing about in your living room after the missis left the front door open, we are shocking so f**k MM off and have a go atleast so I can be entertained this season.
Don't watch it then, i forgot you don't you sell your ticket instead
Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:57 pm
paulh_85 wrote:Upset that ive had to come to this conclusion after todays game as I like him as a man, and as a manager he will have a successful career for another 20 years im sure..... but this football is killng me. Its not the result, as a point away to stoke is fine. Its the manner of the way they went about it. Not just the performance which was dreadful. But the set up, lact of change of approach. Reluctantness to bring on any subs to alter the game and willingnes to apparently accept 0-0 every away game is boring me to tears.
Malky may well keep us up..... just..... but I want more, and with the money we spent we should be getting it.
About today's match.... how f*cking hard is it for a professional footballer to cross the ball higher than 6ft for fucks sake! Pure, pure dreadful game! Might have snatched it with a penalty, but got more than we deserved as it was!
Thu Dec 05, 2013 3:20 pm
paulh_85 wrote:do norwich, villa, stoke and west ham have far superior squads? what about hull and Palace?
we are comepting with sides who have very similar squads to ours, i certainly wouldnt say far superior.
We have spend a shed load, he identified a winger (ince) almost straight away, and ended up getting no one in!
we are completely inept in an attacking sense, and after 14 games i think its a fair assessment, and also a fair amount of time to judge not only performances from players, but the manager too.
Thu Dec 05, 2013 3:24 pm
Bluebird64 wrote:paulh_85 wrote:do norwich, villa, stoke and west ham have far superior squads? what about hull and Palace?
we are comepting with sides who have very similar squads to ours, i certainly wouldnt say far superior.
We have spend a shed load, he identified a winger (ince) almost straight away, and ended up getting no one in!
we are completely inept in an attacking sense, and after 14 games i think its a fair assessment, and also a fair amount of time to judge not only performances from players, but the manager too.
Its not a fair assessment at all. What about our performances against Man City coming from behind twice and beating them or twice coming from behind against Man Utd and earning a point.There is no manager currenty out there who would be capable of getting any more effort out of the current squad so be a little more realistic and give the guy a break.
Thu Dec 05, 2013 3:24 pm
Bluebird64 wrote:paulh_85 wrote:do norwich, villa, stoke and west ham have far superior squads? what about hull and Palace?
we are comepting with sides who have very similar squads to ours, i certainly wouldnt say far superior.
We have spend a shed load, he identified a winger (ince) almost straight away, and ended up getting no one in!
we are completely inept in an attacking sense, and after 14 games i think its a fair assessment, and also a fair amount of time to judge not only performances from players, but the manager too.
Its not a fair assessment at all. What about our performances against Man City coming from behind twice and beating them or twice coming from behind against Man Utd and earning a point.There is no manager currenty out there who would be capable of getting any more effort out of the current squad so be a little more realistic and give the guy a break.