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Re: What was Dave Jones biggest mistake

Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:46 pm

Arrow wrote:Blaming Matthews for loosing us that game, that's the way to tread a young player :shock:


He did lose us that game though :lol:

Re: What was Dave Jones biggest mistake

Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:51 pm

Halifax93 wrote:Lack of tactical flexibility and failure to instill mental strength into players.

However, he did well with so many cast offs and loan players overall.

History will judge him more kindly.


tactical flexibility is what all fans say..its said about malky,,west ham say it of sam..fulham say it about jol...no plan b..as ive said earlier........these players he failed with..are they in madrid..milan ? the prem even...
and i dont think its history..i think its our fans dont judge him fairly let alone kindly ..ignorant,arrogant , not media friendly.......i can think of a dozen top top managers that fit that discription..........wave , smile,say the right things do the ayahttolah and every one is happy.
maybe it was time for change, but the venom is insane

Re: What was Dave Jones biggest mistake

Tue Dec 03, 2013 8:45 am

soulofthesea wrote:
Halifax93 wrote:Lack of tactical flexibility and failure to instill mental strength into players.

However, he did well with so many cast offs and loan players overall.

History will judge him more kindly.


tactical flexibility is what all fans say..its said about malky,,west ham say it of sam..fulham say it about jol...no plan b..as ive said earlier........these players he failed with..are they in madrid..milan ? the prem even...
and i dont think its history..i think its our fans dont judge him fairly let alone kindly ..ignorant,arrogant , not media friendly.......i can think of a dozen top top managers that fit that discription..........wave , smile,say the right things do the ayahttolah and every one is happy.
maybe it was time for change, but the venom is insane


I think Malky is far more flexible in his approach thanJones but I accept a lot if what you say - Jones was largely a success at Cardiff on relatively small (by Malky standards) bydgets certainly. I don't get the venom either.

Re: What was Dave Jones biggest mistake

Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:02 pm

Probably not leaving us for WBA in Autumn 2006 when his stock was at it's highest here. He probably would have gone up with them and his career may have gone down a different path.

Instead he virtually keeps Cardiff in business with his success whilst selling top players and gets nothing but abuse from a vocal section of our support.

Wish DJ all the best in his next role.

Re: What was Dave Jones biggest mistake

Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:11 pm

mjw6150 wrote:Probably not leaving us for WBA in Autumn 2006 when his stock was at it's highest here. He probably would have gone up with them and his career may have gone down a different path.

Instead he virtually keeps Cardiff in business with his success whilst selling top players and gets nothing but abuse from a vocal section of our support.

Wish DJ all the best in his next role.

agree............at the time..the vocal section as you call them,would have you believe he had this huge budget.............he got slaughtered for having loan players?........what manager wants a bunch of people in the main unwanted and stagnating at their parent club over real signings...he was in my eyes a victim of his own success.....

Re: What was Dave Jones biggest mistake

Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:21 pm

So many despite an early glorious rule. The treatment of Adam Mathews, uninspirational, treatment of fans, lack of plan B and his biggest downfall. Not starting Aaron Ramsey in a game which could have changed his career a lot earlier than it has taken. Ramsey scores, confidence soars, City win the FA Cup. Had we won that game I believe we'd have won promotion the following year as the squad would have been so much more up for it!

Re: What was Dave Jones biggest mistake

Tue Dec 03, 2013 6:15 pm

people don't like him coz he never arse licked the fans :thumbup:

Re: What was Dave Jones biggest mistake

Tue Dec 03, 2013 7:09 pm

soulofthesea wrote:
bluespeers wrote:
Shinobipony wrote:Whilst Manager of Cardiff City....

Being up his own ass, picking on the kids, Matthews yet wouldn't say boo to the big stars, No bottle, Cup Final no guts to win it, by playing safe even at 1 nil down, and then he brings on Matthews in his last game against Reading in the play offs to try and save his bacon, after shitting on him, CLASS.

He will eventually end up managing Newport, so god help them, the only thing he will be interested in now is hhow much he can screw out of Wednesday :ayatollah: :malky:

and you know the ins and outs of what happened between him and Mathews?


Yes I do, now get yourself out of DJ ass and get a life :ayatollah: :malky: :malky: :malky: :malky:

Re: What was Dave Jones biggest mistake

Tue Dec 03, 2013 7:29 pm

bluespeers wrote:
soulofthesea wrote:
bluespeers wrote:
Shinobipony wrote:Whilst Manager of Cardiff City....

Being up his own ass, picking on the kids, Matthews yet wouldn't say boo to the big stars, No bottle, Cup Final no guts to win it, by playing safe even at 1 nil down, and then he brings on Matthews in his last game against Reading in the play offs to try and save his bacon, after shitting on him, CLASS.

He will eventually end up managing Newport, so god help them, the only thing he will be interested in now is hhow much he can screw out of Wednesday :ayatollah: :malky:

and you know the ins and outs of what happened between him and Mathews?


Yes I do, now get yourself out of DJ ass and get a life :ayatollah: :malky: :malky: :malky: :malky:

if you did know you wouldnt be mouthing off so much tbh

Re: What was Dave Jones biggest mistake

Tue Dec 03, 2013 7:32 pm

ccfc blue wrote:people don't like him coz he never arse licked the fans :thumbup:

correct....

Re: What was Dave Jones biggest mistake

Tue Dec 03, 2013 8:22 pm

soulofthesea wrote:
bluespeers wrote:
soulofthesea wrote:
bluespeers wrote:
Shinobipony wrote:Whilst Manager of Cardiff City....

Being up his own ass, picking on the kids, Matthews yet wouldn't say boo to the big stars, No bottle, Cup Final no guts to win it, by playing safe even at 1 nil down, and then he brings on Matthews in his last game against Reading in the play offs to try and save his bacon, after shitting on him, CLASS.

He will eventually end up managing Newport, so god help them, the only thing he will be interested in now is hhow much he can screw out of Wednesday :ayatollah: :malky:

and you know the ins and outs of what happened between him and Mathews?


Yes I do, now get yourself out of DJ ass and get a life :ayatollah: :malky: :malky: :malky: :malky:

if you did know you wouldnt be mouthing off so much tbh


Not mouthing off, DJ is up his own ass with you up there with him by the sound of it., if i am honest he started off ok and done well, however he then blows it,like he always does, he has no respect for the fans, and it is always someone else fault.ask Bellers
As I said big man picking on a boy, because he made a mistake by giving a pen away, big, big man, :ayatollah: :malky: :malky: :malky: :malky: :malky:

Re: What was Dave Jones biggest mistake

Tue Dec 03, 2013 10:39 pm

bluespeers wrote:
soulofthesea wrote:
bluespeers wrote:
soulofthesea wrote:
bluespeers wrote:
Shinobipony wrote:Whilst Manager of Cardiff City....

Being up his own ass, picking on the kids, Matthews yet wouldn't say boo to the big stars, No bottle, Cup Final no guts to win it, by playing safe even at 1 nil down, and then he brings on Matthews in his last game against Reading in the play offs to try and save his bacon, after shitting on him, CLASS.

He will eventually end up managing Newport, so god help them, the only thing he will be interested in now is hhow much he can screw out of Wednesday :ayatollah: :malky:

and you know the ins and outs of what happened between him and Mathews?


Yes I do, now get yourself out of DJ ass and get a life :ayatollah: :malky: :malky: :malky: :malky:

if you did know you wouldnt be mouthing off so much tbh


Not mouthing off, DJ is up his own ass with you up there with him by the sound of it., if i am honest he started off ok and done well, however he then blows it,like he always does, he has no respect for the fans, and it is always someone else fault.ask Bellers
As I said big man picking on a boy, because he made a mistake by giving a pen away, big, big man, :ayatollah: :malky: :malky: :malky: :malky: :malky:


He may not have been the most media/ fan friendly bloke but u live with what he had to deal with and you see if your a happy go lucky type?
He got abided by fans from all different clubs for something he didn't do and has had to live with the false allegations ever since being chanted at from the terraces and put out in the media as a peadophile quite in accurately by all different streams of the media and you wonder why he had no time for fans and the media in general after that?

Neither would I!

Yes he had his faults but so does every manager, the fact we stayed in the championship season after season had a FA cup final to attend is just a sign of how well he actually done here and IMO we overachieved every season bar one under jones

Anyone spouting about sizeable budgets is a buffoon as he never got one, his final budget was large for wages and that's it he had no transfer money so brought in players on big wages who simply didn't have the heart for a fight that's the onto thing I can fault him on but in fairness if you can't buy them then you hav to loan them and you are left with premier league outcasts and you have no clue whether they will perform or not and sadly they didn't live up to the bill

Had he been given £10m plus a big wage bill Im certain he'd have for us promoted but he never got that and that is a fact!

Re: What was Dave Jones biggest mistake

Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:44 am

smakerzthebluebird wrote:
bluespeers wrote:
soulofthesea wrote:
bluespeers wrote:
soulofthesea wrote:
bluespeers wrote:
Shinobipony wrote:Whilst Manager of Cardiff City....

Being up his own ass, picking on the kids, Matthews yet wouldn't say boo to the big stars, No bottle, Cup Final no guts to win it, by playing safe even at 1 nil down, and then he brings on Matthews in his last game against Reading in the play offs to try and save his bacon, after shitting on him, CLASS.

He will eventually end up managing Newport, so god help them, the only thing he will be interested in now is hhow much he can screw out of Wednesday :ayatollah: :malky:

and you know the ins and outs of what happened between him and Mathews?


Yes I do, now get yourself out of DJ ass and get a life :ayatollah: :malky: :malky: :malky: :malky:

if you did know you wouldnt be mouthing off so much tbh


Not mouthing off, DJ is up his own ass with you up there with him by the sound of it., if i am honest he started off ok and done well, however he then blows it,like he always does, he has no respect for the fans, and it is always someone else fault.ask Bellers
As I said big man picking on a boy, because he made a mistake by giving a pen away, big, big man, :ayatollah: :malky: :malky: :malky: :malky: :malky:


He may not have been the most media/ fan friendly bloke but u live with what he had to deal with and you see if your a happy go lucky type?
He got abided by fans from all different clubs for something he didn't do and has had to live with the false allegations ever since being chanted at from the terraces and put out in the media as a peadophile quite in accurately by all different streams of the media and you wonder why he had no time for fans and the media in general after that?

Neither would I!

Yes he had his faults but so does every manager, the fact we stayed in the championship season after season had a FA cup final to attend is just a sign of how well he actually done here and IMO we overachieved every season bar one under jones

Anyone spouting about sizeable budgets is a buffoon as he never got one, his final budget was large for wages and that's it he had no transfer money so brought in players on big wages who simply didn't have the heart for a fight that's the onto thing I can fault him on but in fairness if you can't buy them then you hav to loan them and you are left with premier league outcasts and you have no clue whether they will perform or not and sadly they didn't live up to the bill

Had he been given £10m plus a big wage bill Im certain he'd have for us promoted but he never got that and that is a fact!

not 10mill..........just able to bring in a striker the quality of FC in the january window............he got 100k..we got john parkin.......our crowds rose..our season ticket sales increased from uner 3 to over 17 thousand, because we became worth watching......the players he brought in were under achievers. . talented but flawed.. they mostly left and still are under achievers......he got more out of them than anyone else has......and anyone who came off..well we sold them.

Re: What was Dave Jones biggest mistake

Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:46 am

bluespeers wrote:
soulofthesea wrote:
bluespeers wrote:
soulofthesea wrote:
bluespeers wrote:
Shinobipony wrote:Whilst Manager of Cardiff City....

Being up his own ass, picking on the kids, Matthews yet wouldn't say boo to the big stars, No bottle, Cup Final no guts to win it, by playing safe even at 1 nil down, and then he brings on Matthews in his last game against Reading in the play offs to try and save his bacon, after shitting on him, CLASS.

He will eventually end up managing Newport, so god help them, the only thing he will be interested in now is hhow much he can screw out of Wednesday :ayatollah: :malky:

and you know the ins and outs of what happened between him and Mathews?


Yes I do, now get yourself out of DJ ass and get a life :ayatollah: :malky: :malky: :malky: :malky:

if you did know you wouldnt be mouthing off so much tbh


Not mouthing off, DJ is up his own ass with you up there with him by the sound of it., if i am honest he started off ok and done well, however he then blows it,like he always does, he has no respect for the fans, and it is always someone else fault.ask Bellers
As I said big man picking on a boy, because he made a mistake by giving a pen away, big, big man, :ayatollah: :malky: :malky: :malky: :malky: :malky:

so you dont know

Re: What was Dave Jones biggest mistake

Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:49 pm

soulofthesea wrote:
bluespeers wrote:
soulofthesea wrote:
bluespeers wrote:
soulofthesea wrote:
bluespeers wrote:
Shinobipony wrote:Whilst Manager of Cardiff City....

Being up his own ass, picking on the kids, Matthews yet wouldn't say boo to the big stars, No bottle, Cup Final no guts to win it, by playing safe even at 1 nil down, and then he brings on Matthews in his last game against Reading in the play offs to try and save his bacon, after shitting on him, CLASS.

He will eventually end up managing Newport, so god help them, the only thing he will be interested in now is hhow much he can screw out of Wednesday :ayatollah: :malky:

and you know the ins and outs of what happened between him and Mathews?


Yes I do, now get yourself out of DJ ass and get a life :ayatollah: :malky: :malky: :malky: :malky:

if you did know you wouldnt be mouthing off so much tbh


Not mouthing off, DJ is up his own ass with you up there with him by the sound of it., if i am honest he started off ok and done well, however he then blows it,like he always does, he has no respect for the fans, and it is always someone else fault.ask Bellers
As I said big man picking on a boy, because he made a mistake by giving a pen away, big, big man, :ayatollah: :malky: :malky: :malky: :malky: :malky:

so you dont know


Listen soul up ur own ass, DJ said it in the papers the very next day when he slated the lad, or don't you read the papers.( all of the paper had it ) So lets sack Malky and bring DJ, is that what you really want!!!!!!! If yes then we will soon be back where he started and yes it won't be his fault it will always be someone else's fault, hence why he was sacked again by SW, now sod off because you are really started to bore me