Fri Nov 22, 2013 8:17 pm
Old school BLUE wrote:With all due respect lads I'd sooner drink my dogs piss![]()
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Fri Nov 22, 2013 8:51 pm
BABluebird wrote:Old school BLUE wrote:With all due respect lads I'd sooner drink my dogs piss![]()
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Crack on then fella
Fri Nov 22, 2013 8:54 pm
np20 wrote:BABluebird wrote:Old school BLUE wrote:With all due respect lads I'd sooner drink my dogs piss![]()
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Crack on then fella
No better way than to finish an evenings drinks. Normally go from red wine to whisky these days
Wed Nov 27, 2013 3:31 pm
Old school BLUE wrote:With all due respect lads I'd sooner drink my dogs piss![]()
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Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:38 am
Sat Nov 30, 2013 9:49 am
RICK+CCFC wrote:Worth a mention, & new this Xmas at Lidle, a triple cask blend called Abrachan, @ £17.99 a bottle.
Blended by Master blender Richard Paterson. Got one yesterday (early present). Not cheap for a blend,,,but this is a top notch Scotch. It really doe's taste like is says on the bottle.
Sat Nov 30, 2013 1:34 pm
popeye21 wrote:Bluebird64 wrote:popeye21 wrote:Denzil wrote:Ardbeg renaissance...........wont get much change out of £50.
Benromach.........just as nice and around £30 a bottle.
Bushmills..........is a nice smooth drink and a decent price.
I agree with on the Bushmills and most of the Irish stuff is good value because it is distilled 3 times as opposed to twice for the Scotch. I have tried £20 - 30 Irish 10 - 12 year olds that have been better than 18 year old Scotch costing double or treble the amount. The Royal and Ancient Millennium blend is still my favourite and the Midleton Very Rare is not far behind. I only buy this quality at auction as I can't afford to pay hundreds per bottle (Midleton Very Rare 1987 = £250, yet I have paid £55 at auction for the 2005).
Do not be fooled by the fact that if something is triple distilled then it is automatically better quality.
The best example I can give you to explain this is that if you distill a mash once then you are left with say 65% alcohol by volume and if you distill it again then this will increase to say 80% and this will further increase to over 90% when triple distilled.
This 90% triple distilled mash is quite a pure product at this stage granted but the problem is that it is not sold as 90% volume and it is then watered down to acheive a drinkable volume of say 40% by volume. So by increasing the amount of times it is distilled to make a more pure product is then spoilt by the extra amount of water you have to then add to make it a drinkable product for the market which would be typically 40% by volume.
When spirits are distilled it is not just alcohol (ethanol C2H5OH) that is obtained, but also higher alcohols (more carbon atoms)and other volatile compounds like Phenols, Esters and Aldehydes. Some of these compounds add to the taste (Laphroaig is very Phenolic tasting), but others do not. This is why better quality comes from triple distilling as the distiller can remove either at the start of the condensate run-off or near the end. For example if each time only 10% of the unwanted compounds were to remain, after the second distillation there would be 1% and after the third 0.1%. It is about taste not the strength of the distillate. Furthermore, the bottle percentage by volume is not always achieved by adding water, but by the reduction through the 'Angels Share' (natural evaporation through the wood, which when maturing Pussers Rum for example results in 1 bottle left after 15 years in cask for every 16 at the start). There are a lot of good malts sold at cask strength, Springbank 15 year old is 46% and Erdarour 10 year old 2002 Barolo is 56.8%. Also, any addition of water to the finished bottle will not affect the taste (the same source water will be used) as doesn't contain the harsh compounds found prior to distillation.
Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:45 pm
np20 wrote:RICK+CCFC wrote:Worth a mention, & new this Xmas at Lidle, a triple cask blend called Abrachan, @ £17.99 a bottle.
Blended by Master blender Richard Paterson. Got one yesterday (early present). Not cheap for a blend,,,but this is a top notch Scotch. It really doe's taste like is says on the bottle.
Good bottle to keep tucked away to give out when you don't want to give your best away by the sounds of it.
Had a glenfarcras 105 opened and added to the collection yesterday. Stunning drop.
Got told the 10 yr old is a top drink for the price you can buy it for
Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:16 pm
RICK+CCFC wrote:np20 wrote:RICK+CCFC wrote:Worth a mention, & new this Xmas at Lidle, a triple cask blend called Abrachan, @ £17.99 a bottle.
Blended by Master blender Richard Paterson. Got one yesterday (early present). Not cheap for a blend,,,but this is a top notch Scotch. It really doe's taste like is says on the bottle.
Good bottle to keep tucked away to give out when you don't want to give your best away by the sounds of it.
Had a glenfarcras 105 opened and added to the collection yesterday. Stunning drop.
Got told the 10 yr old is a top drink for the price you can buy it for
I've not tried any of the Glenfarclas whisky's yet, but I've heard a lot of good things about them,,,,comparable to The Macallan,,, which produces some of the best Speyside whisky's, imho.
Tue Dec 03, 2013 6:49 am
np20 wrote:RICK+CCFC wrote:np20 wrote:RICK+CCFC wrote:Worth a mention, & new this Xmas at Lidle, a triple cask blend called Abrachan, @ £17.99 a bottle.
Blended by Master blender Richard Paterson. Got one yesterday (early present). Not cheap for a blend,,,but this is a top notch Scotch. It really doe's taste like is says on the bottle.
Good bottle to keep tucked away to give out when you don't want to give your best away by the sounds of it.
Had a glenfarcras 105 opened and added to the collection yesterday. Stunning drop.
Got told the 10 yr old is a top drink for the price you can buy it for
I've not tried any of the Glenfarclas whisky's yet, but I've heard a lot of good things about them,,,,comparable to The Macallan,,, which produces some of the best Speyside whisky's, imho.
I would love to try a macallan. I always forget about it as I've never tried it.
What's a good starter macallan
Tue Dec 03, 2013 7:23 am
RICK+CCFC wrote:np20 wrote:RICK+CCFC wrote:np20 wrote:RICK+CCFC wrote:Worth a mention, & new this Xmas at Lidle, a triple cask blend called Abrachan, @ £17.99 a bottle.
Blended by Master blender Richard Paterson. Got one yesterday (early present). Not cheap for a blend,,,but this is a top notch Scotch. It really doe's taste like is says on the bottle.
Good bottle to keep tucked away to give out when you don't want to give your best away by the sounds of it.
Had a glenfarcras 105 opened and added to the collection yesterday. Stunning drop.
Got told the 10 yr old is a top drink for the price you can buy it for
I've not tried any of the Glenfarclas whisky's yet, but I've heard a lot of good things about them,,,,comparable to The Macallan,,, which produces some of the best Speyside whisky's, imho.
I would love to try a macallan. I always forget about it as I've never tried it.
What's a good starter macallan
Try starting with a 10 yr old fine oak,,,,Costco sell a bottle for about £25. The serried oak varieties are very good, Ive tried the 12 yr old, but a bit on the pricey side.
http://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/twesea ... q=macallan
http://www.themacallan.com/the-whisky/sherry-oak/
thank you good man, will have a look round this weekendMon Oct 06, 2014 10:26 am
Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:44 am
Old school BLUE wrote:With all due respect lads I'd sooner drink my dogs piss![]()
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Mon Oct 06, 2014 12:26 pm
Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:37 pm
Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:04 pm
Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:35 pm
McNaughtyButNice wrote:Seems quite a few fans of Talisker - I'm not really into the very smoky peaty malts and prefer the lighter more floral offerings such as GlenKinchie or Jura Origina which is a real bargain generally.
Recently visited the distillery at Oban and bought a bottle of the 14 yr old - very nice middle of the map malt!
Tue Oct 07, 2014 12:39 am
np20 wrote:Is the auction available by internet or telephone?
Would love to pick up a bottle.
Was enjoying an ardbeg Corryvreckan Fri night, nicer than Uigeadail IMO
Tue Oct 07, 2014 6:06 am
RICK+CCFC wrote:McNaughtyButNice wrote:Seems quite a few fans of Talisker - I'm not really into the very smoky peaty malts and prefer the lighter more floral offerings such as GlenKinchie or Jura Origina which is a real bargain generally.
Recently visited the distillery at Oban and bought a bottle of the 14 yr old - very nice middle of the map malt!
I've only tried the Talisker 10yr myself, not a fan personally. Of the Isle malts I've tried, Bunhabbabain & Bowmore are my favourites, along with Tobermory 16 yr,,,this is the business.
Hope to be up in Scotland soon to try something new, (or two).
Tue Oct 07, 2014 6:10 am
popeye21 wrote:np20 wrote:Is the auction available by internet or telephone?
Would love to pick up a bottle.
Was enjoying an ardbeg Corryvreckan Fri night, nicer than Uigeadail IMO
You have to register for online bidding :-
brightwells.com
I usually telephone commission bids, as if I want a few lots that are the same, they are not available online when there are 'similar subsequent lots at the same price.'
Tue Oct 07, 2014 1:39 pm
Tue Oct 07, 2014 1:54 pm
Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:00 pm
np20 wrote:RICK+CCFC wrote:McNaughtyButNice wrote:Seems quite a few fans of Talisker - I'm not really into the very smoky peaty malts and prefer the lighter more floral offerings such as GlenKinchie or Jura Origina which is a real bargain generally.
Recently visited the distillery at Oban and bought a bottle of the 14 yr old - very nice middle of the map malt!
I've only tried the Talisker 10yr myself, not a fan personally. Of the Isle malts I've tried, Bunhabbabain & Bowmore are my favourites, along with Tobermory 16 yr,,,this is the business.
Hope to be up in Scotland soon to try something new, (or two).
I think the 10 is by far the worst talisker. But I'm a huge fan of some other taliskers.
I was disappointed by the jura 10, but do like jura Prophecy.
Any good deals and bottles worth trying are very much appreciated especially with xmas approaching and Santa needing to know what to bring!
Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:15 pm
McNaughtyButNice wrote:np20 wrote:RICK+CCFC wrote:McNaughtyButNice wrote:Seems quite a few fans of Talisker - I'm not really into the very smoky peaty malts and prefer the lighter more floral offerings such as GlenKinchie or Jura Origina which is a real bargain generally.
Recently visited the distillery at Oban and bought a bottle of the 14 yr old - very nice middle of the map malt!
I've only tried the Talisker 10yr myself, not a fan personally. Of the Isle malts I've tried, Bunhabbabain & Bowmore are my favourites, along with Tobermory 16 yr,,,this is the business.
Hope to be up in Scotland soon to try something new, (or two).
I think the 10 is by far the worst talisker. But I'm a huge fan of some other taliskers.
I was disappointed by the jura 10, but do like jura Prophecy.
Any good deals and bottles worth trying are very much appreciated especially with xmas approaching and Santa needing to know what to bring!
I can understand that the Jura "origin" would not be to your taste as like the Glenkinchie 12, it is the opposite end of the spectrum to Talisker. Given you preference for the richer, smokier malts, it may be worth trying Caol Ila 18 or Distillers Edition, as well as the Lagavulin 16 yr old or maybe Bowmore 12.
Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:25 pm
np20 wrote:popeye21 wrote:np20 wrote:Is the auction available by internet or telephone?
Would love to pick up a bottle.
Was enjoying an ardbeg Corryvreckan Fri night, nicer than Uigeadail IMO
You have to register for online bidding :-
brightwells.com
I usually telephone commission bids, as if I want a few lots that are the same, they are not available online when there are 'similar subsequent lots at the same price.'
Ive sadly never been to an auction, let us know what you've bought
Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:28 pm
np20 wrote:McNaughtyButNice wrote:np20 wrote:RICK+CCFC wrote:McNaughtyButNice wrote:Seems quite a few fans of Talisker - I'm not really into the very smoky peaty malts and prefer the lighter more floral offerings such as GlenKinchie or Jura Origina which is a real bargain generally.
Recently visited the distillery at Oban and bought a bottle of the 14 yr old - very nice middle of the map malt!
I've only tried the Talisker 10yr myself, not a fan personally. Of the Isle malts I've tried, Bunhabbabain & Bowmore are my favourites, along with Tobermory 16 yr,,,this is the business.
Hope to be up in Scotland soon to try something new, (or two).
I think the 10 is by far the worst talisker. But I'm a huge fan of some other taliskers.
I was disappointed by the jura 10, but do like jura Prophecy.
Any good deals and bottles worth trying are very much appreciated especially with xmas approaching and Santa needing to know what to bring!
I can understand that the Jura "origin" would not be to your taste as like the Glenkinchie 12, it is the opposite end of the spectrum to Talisker. Given you preference for the richer, smokier malts, it may be worth trying Caol Ila 18 or Distillers Edition, as well as the Lagavulin 16 yr old or maybe Bowmore 12.
I have bnoth the lagavulin 16 and bowmore 12 sat in my collection.
Im actually online at the moment looking for a couple of bottles, im out of talisker 57 north, so hunting around for the best price, I have taken your advice and added the Caol ila 18 and Dalmore Cigar malt, which is a personal fave.
Do you have any further suggestions? I budget 2 single malts a month upto 80 each.
Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:34 pm
Fri Oct 10, 2014 4:24 pm
Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:04 pm
McNaughtyButNice wrote:Sorry - not the Singleton edition, I meant the previous standard 12 yr old in the square bottle (singleton is in a round bottle)
The replaced the original with the Singleton, and it's the original I was looking for. Cheers!
Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:11 pm
Igovernor wrote:I have a bottle of Hedges and Butler Royal whisky it's over 30 years old, is this going to taste nice, and what is it worth?