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Re: This is to all the parents

Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:40 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Ian, Their FB page is vetted, Ive virtually stopped posting on there, I use to post 10 times a week at least, but then they decided all posts had to be vetted and refused about 9 posts of mine :lol: So now I have posted once in the last 2 months.

annis I'm curious,you shout loud and proud for a return to blue why would they turn down your posts?

Re: This is to all the parents

Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:42 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Ian, Their FB page is vetted, Ive virtually stopped posting on there, I use to post 10 times a week at least, but then they decided all posts had to be vetted and refused about 9 posts of mine :lol: So now I have posted once in the last 2 months.


Yes I know Annis.

That parent thread was by one of the admins. This admin though I am told is not a committee member. I just feel that page is there for a reaction more than a policy.

Re: This is to all the parents

Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:44 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Ian, Their FB page is vetted, Ive virtually stopped posting on there, I use to post 10 times a week at least, but then they decided all posts had to be vetted and refused about 9 posts of mine :lol: So now I have posted once in the last 2 months.


Yes I know Annis.

That parent thread was by one of the admins. This admin though I am told is not a committee member. I just feel that page is there for a reaction more than a policy.

Semantics

Re: This is to all the parents

Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:49 pm

If I had kids then I would educate them about our history, but at the end of the day if they want to wear red then you should let them.

Re: This is to all the parents

Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:50 pm

JonCCFC wrote:If I had kids then I would educate them about our history, but at the end of the day if they want to wear red then you should let them.

You will have to adopt you homo

Re: This is to all the parents

Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:53 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:If I had kids then I would educate them about our history, but at the end of the day if they want to wear red then you should let them.

You will have to adopt you homo

Unlike you I don't take it up the arse

Re: This is to all the parents

Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:51 am

CraigCCFC wrote:
Bluebird64 wrote:This is an important issue though.
It is always going to be difficult to stop your kids from wanting the latest football top and being kids, they do not really care about the politics behind the rebrand.
When your kids reach a certain age however then you can at least educate them on a the merits of making a judgement call on the morals involved.
Like most things in life, there will be parents who will take the time to point out this moral dilema in a bid to educate their kids and make them more rounded individuals but equally there will be parents who will miss this opportunity and show their kids that their principles can sacrificed for no more than a free red scarf. :ayatollah:

What drivel.

Kids can decide for themselves without the politics of their parents (rebrand) ideas.

I suppose to educate your kids about morals then a prerequisite would be that the parents posess some in the first place. Parents who choose to wear red who are clearly morally bankrupt need not apply.

Re: This is to all the parents

Sun Nov 17, 2013 8:27 am

Bluebird64 wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Bluebird64 wrote:This is an important issue though.
It is always going to be difficult to stop your kids from wanting the latest football top and being kids, they do not really care about the politics behind the rebrand.
When your kids reach a certain age however then you can at least educate them on a the merits of making a judgement call on the morals involved.
Like most things in life, there will be parents who will take the time to point out this moral dilema in a bid to educate their kids and make them more rounded individuals but equally there will be parents who will miss this opportunity and show their kids that their principles can sacrificed for no more than a free red scarf. :ayatollah:

What drivel.

Kids can decide for themselves without the politics of their parents (rebrand) ideas.

I suppose to educate your kids about morals then a prerequisite would be that the parents posess some in the first place. Parents who choose to wear red who are clearly morally bankrupt need not apply.

Why is someone who decides to wear red morally bankrupt?

To some people, there are far more important things in life than the colour of a football shirt. What gives you the right to judge them?

Re: This is to all the parents

Mon Nov 18, 2013 2:05 am

CraigCCFC wrote:
Bluebird64 wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Bluebird64 wrote:This is an important issue though.
It is always going to be difficult to stop your kids from wanting the latest football top and being kids, they do not really care about the politics behind the rebrand.
When your kids reach a certain age however then you can at least educate them on a the merits of making a judgement call on the morals involved.
Like most things in life, there will be parents who will take the time to point out this moral dilema in a bid to educate their kids and make them more rounded individuals but equally there will be parents who will miss this opportunity and show their kids that their principles can sacrificed for no more than a free red scarf. :ayatollah:

What drivel.

Kids can decide for themselves without the politics of their parents (rebrand) ideas.

I suppose to educate your kids about morals then a prerequisite would be that the parents posess some in the first place. Parents who choose to wear red who are clearly morally bankrupt need not apply.

Why is someone who decides to wear red morally bankrupt?

To some people, there are far more important things in life than the colour of a football shirt. What gives you the right to judge them?

The fact that you need to ask these queations is the problem

Re: This is to all the parents

Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:32 am

Bluebird64 wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Bluebird64 wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Bluebird64 wrote:This is an important issue though.
It is always going to be difficult to stop your kids from wanting the latest football top and being kids, they do not really care about the politics behind the rebrand.
When your kids reach a certain age however then you can at least educate them on a the merits of making a judgement call on the morals involved.
Like most things in life, there will be parents who will take the time to point out this moral dilema in a bid to educate their kids and make them more rounded individuals but equally there will be parents who will miss this opportunity and show their kids that their principles can sacrificed for no more than a free red scarf. :ayatollah:

What drivel.

Kids can decide for themselves without the politics of their parents (rebrand) ideas.

I suppose to educate your kids about morals then a prerequisite would be that the parents posess some in the first place. Parents who choose to wear red who are clearly morally bankrupt need not apply.

Why is someone who decides to wear red morally bankrupt?

To some people, there are far more important things in life than the colour of a football shirt. What gives you the right to judge them?

The fact that you need to ask these queations is the problem

Id look closer at the dictator living in your own house rather than at a football club. Putting a colour before your own kids.....shocking

Re: This is to all the parents

Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:13 am

Fact is children will want to wear the colours of their idols at this present time, my niece/ nephew want the red kit as that is the kit that their team play in, Do that us what they will get. Some people need to get a reality check !

Re: This is to all the parents

Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:45 am

CraigCCFC wrote:
Bluebird64 wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Bluebird64 wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Bluebird64 wrote:This is an important issue though.
It is always going to be difficult to stop your kids from wanting the latest football top and being kids, they do not really care about the politics behind the rebrand.
When your kids reach a certain age however then you can at least educate them on a the merits of making a judgement call on the morals involved.
Like most things in life, there will be parents who will take the time to point out this moral dilema in a bid to educate their kids and make them more rounded individuals but equally there will be parents who will miss this opportunity and show their kids that their principles can sacrificed for no more than a free red scarf. :ayatollah:

What drivel.

Kids can decide for themselves without the politics of their parents (rebrand) ideas.

I suppose to educate your kids about morals then a prerequisite would be that the parents posess some in the first place. Parents who choose to wear red who are clearly morally bankrupt need not apply.

Why is someone who decides to wear red morally bankrupt?

To some people, there are far more important things in life than the colour of a football shirt. What gives you the right to judge them?

The fact that you need to ask these queations is the problem

Id look closer at the dictator living in your own house rather than at a football club. Putting a colour before your own kids.....shocking


Drama queen alert. If you took the trouble to read what I said: "It is always going to be difficult to stop your kids from wanting the latest football top and being kids, they do not really care about the politics behind the rebrand.
When your kids reach a certain age however then you can at least educate them on a the merits of making a judgement call on the morals involved"
It would appear that your rant is unfounded and I would not expect any parent to try and explain the politics of our situation to kids aged 7 and 3 but there comes an age when you can explain and then they are grown up to make their own choice.
As for calling me a dictator then I can always live up to that title by turning up at the stadium weraring red and wearing my trousers up to my armpits whilst telling Malky what tactics he could be adopting and sacking some backroom staff but I will leave that up to the real dictator. :ayatollah:

Re: This is to all the parents

Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:47 am

langley wrote:Fact is children will want to wear the colours of their idols at this present time, my niece/ nephew want the red kit as that is the kit that their team play in, Do that us what they will get. Some people need to get a reality check !

I refer you to the reply above given some moments ago. :ayatollah:

Re: This is to all the parents

Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:24 pm

Bluebird64 wrote:
langley wrote:Fact is children will want to wear the colours of their idols at this present time, my niece/ nephew want the red kit as that is the kit that their team play in, Do that us what they will get. Some people need to get a reality check !

I refer you to the reply above given some moments ago. :ayatollah:

Yes I read your reply, but what the op suggested is that upon telling the kids about our history we shld expect them not to want to wear red, well I don't agree with that , whether they are 3, 713 etc, their time now plays in red, end if, rightfully they don't want the politics rubbish spouted at them, they can be fully aware of our history of the club, be proud of our club, but lets just let them carry on enjoying supporting the club. I would also point out as a side issue, there are quite a few men on the terraces with a far far worse dress sense than Mr T , who also try to tell MAlky what tactics to play .

Re: This is to all the parents

Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:27 pm

Bluebird 37 wrote:Anthony Parris Bluebirds Unite committee member
This is to ALL the parents

Do us a favour, stop buying our kids red kit and start to educate them on our/your history and identity

It will stand them in good stead for the rest of their lives I promise

It's called pride and conscience

1Love BLUEBIRDS XXX


Red is also part of our history now like it or not.

Education is never a bad thing though but then they should be allowed to decide for themselves what they want to wear.

Re: This is to all the parents

Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:33 pm

I'm a parent, and when mine are old enough I'll explain why it's important to be yourself, stand up for what you believe in, and don't let someone boss you around. I'll explain why values are important and that money doesn't rule everything.

Personally, I wouldn't have got them a red Cardiff City shirt.

Other parents obviously do as they wish!

Re: This is to all the parents

Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:35 pm

CardiffKid wrote:I'm a parent, and when mine are old enough I'll explain why it's important to be yourself, stand up for what you believe in, and don't let someone boss you around. I'll explain why values are important and that money doesn't rule everything.

Personally, I wouldn't have got them a red Cardiff City shirt.

Other parents obviously do as they wish!


Thats sounds fair enough to me :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

But you wouldnt object to them having a red top obviously :ayatollah: i think thats the right attitude, people should make decision for themselves

Re: This is to all the parents

Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:41 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
CardiffKid wrote:I'm a parent, and when mine are old enough I'll explain why it's important to be yourself, stand up for what you believe in, and don't let someone boss you around. I'll explain why values are important and that money doesn't rule everything.

Personally, I wouldn't have got them a red Cardiff City shirt.

Other parents obviously do as they wish!


Thats sounds fair enough to me :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

But you wouldnt object to them having a red top obviously :ayatollah: i think thats the right attitude, people should make decision for themselves


Well someone else could buy them something I suppose, but I wouldn't. My family know my feelings on the rebrand and they know that I don't want my kids in red. It would be disrespectful to me for someone to buy them red City stuff as it goes against my thoughts.

There is a strong moral element to all this for me. What Tan has done is to insult a symbol, a culture that people hold dear without consulting them. I fundementally find that wrong.

I would just explain things to my kids and then they make their own decisions when they are old enough, but as I said, I wouldn't buy them a red shirt. I asked for plenty of crap when I was a kid. My parents said no plenty of times.

Kids shouldn't always get what they want in my opinion.

I respect that other parents would view things differently though.

Re: This is to all the parents

Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:47 pm

CardiffKid wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
CardiffKid wrote:I'm a parent, and when mine are old enough I'll explain why it's important to be yourself, stand up for what you believe in, and don't let someone boss you around. I'll explain why values are important and that money doesn't rule everything.

Personally, I wouldn't have got them a red Cardiff City shirt.

Other parents obviously do as they wish!


Thats sounds fair enough to me :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

But you wouldnt object to them having a red top obviously :ayatollah: i think thats the right attitude, people should make decision for themselves


Well someone else could buy them something I suppose, but I wouldn't. My family know my feelings on the rebrand and they know that I don't want my kids in red. It would be disrespectful to me for someone to buy them red City stuff as it goes against my thoughts.

There is a strong moral element to all this for me. What Tan has done is to insult a symbol, a culture that people hold dear without consulting them. I fundementally find that wrong.

I would just explain things to my kids and then they make their own decisions when they are old enough, but as I said, I wouldn't buy them a red shirt. I asked for plenty of crap when I was a kid. My parents said no plenty of times.

Kids shouldn't always get what they want in my opinion.

I respect that other parents would view things differently though.


I know what you mean, everyone knows not to buy me anything Red but I have bought the red top for my nephew, it was his choice and it was that or a red rugby top :lol: in fairness to him he has had every blue top since he was born he knows the history he still wears the blue tops that fit him but he also wanted the current top.

Problem you may have and other parents alike is that Red is what they know and will start to believe in it especially when so much of it will be in the play ground. Then it comes to a point where they are standing up for what they believe in...RED :( and then if they give in to blue they are allowing themselves to be bossed around.

Re: This is to all the parents

Mon Nov 18, 2013 2:43 pm

If Red is reduced to something you only find in the playgrounds, thats fine by me.

We can rank red shirts as something alongside Action Man, top trumps, marbles and conkers.

In fairness, I don't really have an issue with kids in red shirts. They know no better.

Adults, while of course it's a free country, I do have a problem with adults in red shirts. For me, it's shitting on the clubs identity and history. End of. I know other's disagree, but to me, adults in a red shirt should know better, and I view them as a kind of non violent version of the hooligans-something that shames the club and wider supporters.

Re: This is to all the parents

Mon Nov 18, 2013 3:14 pm

Bluebird 37 wrote:Anthony Parris Bluebirds Unite committee member
This is to ALL the parents

Do us a favour, stop buying our kids red kit and start to educate them on our/your history and identity

It will stand them in good stead for the rest of their lives I promise

It's called pride and conscience

1Love BLUEBIRDS XXX


What a knob!!!! If my kids want a red top I will buy them a red top, my aim in life is to see my children happy and safe. Who do you think you are telling what I can or cannot buy for my children. Get a life you total plank!

Re: This is to all the parents

Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:01 pm

Sometimes as a parent you have to tell your children no and stand up for what you believe in, bring your child up as a BLUEBIRD. You are only aiding Tan by buying your kids the red shirt, the next generation of Cardiff fans cannot be lost to this red disease.

Re: This is to all the parents

Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:12 pm

TheBlueWillRise wrote:Sometimes as a parent you have to tell your children no and stand up for what you believe in, bring your child up as a BLUEBIRD. You are only aiding Tan by buying your kids the red shirt, the next generation of Cardiff fans cannot be lost to this red disease.

As long as they are old enough to understand then it is also a good opportunity to explain ethics and morals which hopefully will go a long way to making them more balanced responsible adults later on in life. :ayatollah:

Re: This is to all the parents

Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:27 pm

CardiffKid wrote:If Red is reduced to something you only find in the playgrounds, thats fine by me.

We can rank red shirts as something alongside Action Man, top trumps, marbles and conkers.

In fairness, I don't really have an issue with kids in red shirts. They know no better.

Adults, while of course it's a free country, I do have a problem with adults in red shirts. For me, it's shitting on the clubs identity and history. End of. I know other's disagree, but to me, adults in a red shirt should know better, and I view them as a kind of non violent version of the hooligans-something that shames the club and wider supporters.


Problem is these kids grow up knowing red. 15 years you could have a generation annoyed people want to change the kit from Red to blue as it's what they know.

Re: This is to all the parents

Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:00 am

Bluebird 37 wrote:Anthony Parris Bluebirds Unite committee member
This is to ALL the parents

Do us a favour, stop buying our kids red kit and start to educate them on our/your history and identity

It will stand them in good stead for the rest of their lives I promise

It's called pride and conscience

1Love BLUEBIRDS XXX


I will be thrilled that my kids would want to wear a Cardiff shirt over a Utd/Liverpool etc shirt, no matter what colour it is.

Re: This is to all the parents

Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:22 am

mjw6150 wrote:
Bluebird 37 wrote:Anthony Parris Bluebirds Unite committee member
This is to ALL the parents

Do us a favour, stop buying our kids red kit and start to educate them on our/your history and identity

It will stand them in good stead for the rest of their lives I promise

It's called pride and conscience

1Love BLUEBIRDS XXX


I will be thrilled that my kids would want to wear a Cardiff shirt over a Utd/Liverpool etc shirt, no matter what colour it is.

But would you be even more thrilled if the colour of the shirt was blue?

Re: This is to all the parents

Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:45 am

I agree with the poster,if kids wear red in a few years the blue will be gone,now before anyone gets on their high horse,yes I know people can wear red or buy red,but what I don't understand is the adults who are against the red, but buy it for their kids,that to me means they should accept it themselves,because in doing so they are helping getting rid of the blue,they want to keep

Re: This is to all the parents

Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:56 am

Bluebird64 wrote:
mjw6150 wrote:
Bluebird 37 wrote:Anthony Parris Bluebirds Unite committee member
This is to ALL the parents

Do us a favour, stop buying our kids red kit and start to educate them on our/your history and identity

It will stand them in good stead for the rest of their lives I promise

It's called pride and conscience

1Love BLUEBIRDS XXX


I will be thrilled that my kids would want to wear a Cardiff shirt over a Utd/Liverpool etc shirt, no matter what colour it is.

But would you be even more thrilled if the colour of the shirt was blue?


Honestly wouldn't care, Cardiff City FC is so much more than a colour to me, and opening posts like the one on this thread just make me care less and less.

Re: This is to all the parents

Tue Nov 19, 2013 12:14 pm

JonCCFC wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:If I had kids then I would educate them about our history, but at the end of the day if they want to wear red then you should let them.

You will have to adopt you homo

Unlike you I don't take it up the arse


Ahhh you must be the giver then....


Sorry couldn't resist that opportunity :lol:


Carry on... :ayatollah:

Re: This is to all the parents

Tue Nov 19, 2013 2:04 pm

Let them be children, they dont need to know about the politics of the club. The time will come in later years when they will ask about the history or look for it themselves.

Children grow up far to quick these days. Let them enjoy watching cardiff city in the premier league. God i would have loved to have been a kid going to school in the shirt my team play in, knowing they are playin arsenal, united, chelsea etc.

You can actually join in the school banter about football, knowing your club, your local club is in the top 20 in the english league system, not about 80th like when i was growing up playing northampton and your mates are on about barnes, rush, mark hughes and you just want to talk about jason perry, carl dale and stanty.