Bluebirds Unite

Why has malky and his team been brought into Bu's cause.
Just stick to trying to get blue back.Bu seem to be getting desperate.
They have an add in the echo Monday about the march and have been told they can't use malkys image in the add.

I think that even though the return of Cardiff City's traditional identity, quite rightly, remains as BU's primary aim, it would be remiss of them not to challenge Tan's general running of the club - in the light of Iain Moody's departure and the well publicised unrest behind the scenes. Any protest organisation should always look to exploit opportunities. BU are doing what any similar body would do under the circumstances.

I don't agree with your comment that "BU seem to be getting desperate." I am quite sure that the good people running Bluebirds Unite are fully aware that this will be a long haul.

If Mackay is uncomfortable about having his image used in an advert, in my opinion, BU are doing the right thing by dropping it.

All hear say and should not really be believed.. I think the BU should stick to campaigning against the rebrand and not Tan out stuff.. The more Tan see's a small section of fans wanting him out he may dig his heals in more..

Where is all this Tan out stuff?

At the stadium after the swansea game.. on here by 37.. The BU can do what they want but in my opinion should leave the Tan Out stuff out of it and any other club matters other than the rebrand.

37 ffs.

Why has malky and his team been brought into Bu's cause.
Just stick to trying to get blue back.Bu seem to be getting desperate.
They have an add in the echo Monday about the march and have been told they can't use malkys image in the add.

I think that even though the return of Cardiff City's traditional identity, quite rightly, remains as BU's primary aim, it would be remiss of them not to challenge Tan's general running of the club - in the light of Iain Moody's departure and the well publicised unrest behind the scenes. Any protest organisation should always look to exploit opportunities. BU are doing what any similar body would do under the circumstances.

I don't agree with your comment that "BU seem to be getting desperate." I am quite sure that the good people running Bluebirds Unite are fully aware that this will be a long haul.

If Mackay is uncomfortable about having his image used in an advert, in my opinion, BU are doing the right thing by dropping it.

All hear say and should not really be believed.. I think the BU should stick to campaigning against the rebrand and not Tan out stuff.. The more Tan see's a small section of fans wanting him out he may dig his heals in more..

Where is all this Tan out stuff?

Bu sell tan out t shirts

I've not seen any.

go on onersigns web site who do all their gear,click onto bluebirds unite and you'll see two tan out t shirts.

One Signs. Basically a 3rd party on the gravy train.

I just pointed you in the right direction bake ,make of it what you want.

I just pointed you in the right direction bake ,make of it what you want.

Not exactly a driving force though is it. Just people picking a point and making it an issue.

Apart from the blue /red issue fans are happy with tan on the whole.
I would advise Bu to just stick with asking for a return to blue,the reason they were formed ,anything else just muddy's the water.

Apart from the blue /red issue fans are happy with tan on the whole.
I would advise Bu to just stick with asking for a return to blue,the reason they were formed ,anything else just muddy's the water.

BU are douing that. Its just people on here making an issue on the smallest thing they can do to belittle BU.

At least BU have made a stand for the blue. Thats a lot more than the whingers on here.

Apart from the blue /red issue fans are happy with tan on the whole.
I would advise Bu to just stick with asking for a return to blue,the reason they were formed ,anything else just muddy's the water.

BU are douing that. Its just people on here making an issue on the smallest thing they can do to belittle BU.

At least BU have made a stand for the blue. Thats a lot more than the whingers on here.

Like I said earlier baked BU are not seen as credible and it gets worse and worse every week for them

I read your long response regarding my initial post and nothing about there credibility just rambling a about blue

I stand by my original post and nothing posted since has even remotely boosted the credibility of BU just furthered discredited them, I feel that as passionate as some of our fans joining the BU are they are absolutely clueless as to what they should and should not say or even do, you've obviously got a few people at BU working really hard to make a point to the world and vinny about our traditions and identity and what it means then a load of buffoons marching with stupid banners and tan out ts hurts which completely detracts from BU's initial
Mission statement!

It's that kind of stuff that really dissolves their credibility and why whilst TAN is in charge he will just laugh at them, and anyone that looks at it without the Cardiff tinted glasses on will say exactly the same

The only way to try and sort it out is through dialogue with the only man who can ever change it and that's TAN himself and let's face it BU are about as close to that as I am a millionaire the trust is the only way to do this and it has to be done in the proper manner

But as I said before do I think it will make any difference? No I don't not while tan is in charge of the club and I think most of BU's members agree with this point and that's why they have now staring reverting to TAN out because logically it's the only thing they can think of next, and it's the worst idea they'll ever have

Keep wearing blue and singing blue for the world to here is what I say you'll hit far more pairs of ears in televised games than any other form of protest ever will

That's my two pennies worth anywyas

Well said smakerz

Like I said earlier baked BU are not seen as credible and it gets worse and worse every week for them

I read your long response regarding my initial post and nothing about there credibility just rambling a about blue

I stand by my original post and nothing posted since has even remotely boosted the credibility of BU just furthered discredited them, I feel that as passionate as some of our fans joining the BU are they are absolutely clueless as to what they should and should not say or even do, you've obviously got a few people at BU working really hard to make a point to the world and vinny about our traditions and identity and what it means then a load of buffoons marching with stupid banners and tan out ts hurts which completely detracts from BU's initial
Mission statement!

It's that kind of stuff that really dissolves their credibility and why whilst TAN is in charge he will just laugh at them, and anyone that looks at it without the Cardiff tinted glasses on will say exactly the same

The only way to try and sort it out is through dialogue with the only man who can ever change it and that's TAN himself and let's face it BU are about as close to that as I am a millionaire the trust is the only way to do this and it has to be done in the proper manner

But as I said before do I think it will make any difference? No I don't not while tan is in charge of the club and I think most of BU's members agree with this point and that's why they have now staring reverting to TAN out because logically it's the only thing they can think of next, and it's the worst idea they'll ever have

Keep wearing blue and singing blue for the world to here is what I say you'll hit far more pairs of ears in televised games than any other form of protest ever will

That's my two pennies worth anywyas

Well my personal feelings are guy like yourself judge BU on what you hear on this forum.

However much discredit you want to give them they are the only organisation to make a stand and get attention. You can't take that away from them and I will go further. Without their stand the blue would be dead in the water.

The wearing of blue in the ground was growing and gathering momentum before Bu came on the scene.They can't take credit for that.As for dead in the water,no.

The wearing of blue in the ground was growing and gathering momentum before Bu came on the scene.They can't take credit for that.As for dead in the water,no.

Was it bollocks.

Start of the season there was loads of red. I cant say how it is now as I've not been down since Totenham but then there was enough red to make you wonder if the fight had been lost.

The wearing of blue in the ground was growing and gathering momentum before Bu came on the scene.They can't take credit for that.As for dead in the water,no.

Was it bollocks.

Start of the season there was loads of red. I cant say how it is now as I've not been down since Totenham but then there was enough red to make you wonder if the fight had been lost.

People are wearing coats now ffs. When it was t shirt weather it was more red than blue, sad but true.

The wearing of blue in the ground was growing and gathering momentum before Bu came on the scene.They can't take credit for that.As for dead in the water,no.

Was it bollocks.

Start of the season there was loads of red. I cant say how it is now as I've not been down since Totenham but then there was enough red to make you wonder if the fight had been lost.

People are wearing coats now ffs. When it was t shirt weather it was more red than blue, sad but true.

Aye

The wearing of blue in the ground was growing and gathering momentum before Bu came on the scene.They can't take credit for that.As for dead in the water,no.

Agree.

If BU start taking credit for people wearing blue ill sadly have to stop wearing blue for the first time. I wont want to be associated with them bully types.

The wearing of blue in the ground was growing and gathering momentum before Bu came on the scene.They can't take credit for that.As for dead in the water,no.

Agree.

If BU start taking credit for people wearing blue ill sadly have to stop wearing blue for the first time. I wont want to be associated with them bully types.

What a load of baloney.

The wearing of blue in the ground was growing and gathering momentum before Bu came on the scene.They can't take credit for that.As for dead in the water,no.

Agree.

If BU start taking credit for people wearing blue ill sadly have to stop wearing blue for the first time. I wont want to be associated with them bully types.

Ffs

The wearing of blue in the ground was growing and gathering momentum before Bu came on the scene.They can't take credit for that.As for dead in the water,no.

Agree.

If BU start taking credit for people wearing blue ill sadly have to stop wearing blue for the first time. I wont want to be associated with them bully types.

Ffs

The wearing of blue in the ground was growing and gathering momentum before Bu came on the scene.They can't take credit for that.As for dead in the water,no.

Agree.

If BU start taking credit for people wearing blue ill sadly have to stop wearing blue for the first time. I wont want to be associated with them bully types.

I assume that you will also stop attending Cardiff City games forthwith, also?

Clearly, you are a man of impeccable principles and don't wish " to be associated with them bully types," so given that the biggest bully in this whole saga has been Cardiff City's controlling shareholder, I guess that's the end of the road for you in terms of watching the team - until Vincent Tan departs.

Huge respect to you, for your stance

The wearing of blue in the ground was growing and gathering momentum before Bu came on the scene.They can't take credit for that.As for dead in the water,no.

Agree.

If BU start taking credit for people wearing blue ill sadly have to stop wearing blue for the first time. I wont want to be associated with them bully types.

I assume that you will also stop attending Cardiff City games forthwith, also?

Clearly, you are a man of impeccable principles and don't wish " to be associated with them bully types," so given that the biggest bully in this whole saga has been Cardiff City's controlling shareholder, I guess that's the end of the road for you in terms of watching the team - until Vincent Tan departs.

Huge respect to you, for your stance

Talking shit like that is why people just cant be bothered with BU, you come across so far up your own ass it must hurt.
I don't do anything to associate myself with Tan and don't want to be associated with BU.

I will however support my team Cardiff City

We will not be silenced.

BLUEBIRD UNITE

We will not be silenced.

BLUEBIRD UNITE

Jog on you tool

Your more boring than chuckles

Apart from the blue /red issue fans are happy with tan on the whole.
I would advise Bu to just stick with asking for a return to blue,the reason they were formed ,anything else just muddy's the water.

BU are douing that. Its just people on here making an issue on the smallest thing they can do to belittle BU.

At least BU have made a stand for the blue. Thats a lot more than the whingers on here.

correct my friend.i genuinly cannot see what all the fuss is about .ok a few bu posting comments up on a fb page.i dare say there are a few disgruntled man utd fans posting on man utd sites who doubt moyes.does that make it a offical statement of that message board?this alledged cult of personality thing is rediculous.vincent tan is the one inflicting his personality /ego on people.vinny t must be laughing his nuts of having ccfc fans argueing amongst each other over the only resistance show in town.

The wearing of blue in the ground was growing and gathering momentum before Bu came on the scene.They can't take credit for that.As for dead in the water,no.

Agree.

If BU start taking credit for people wearing blue ill sadly have to stop wearing blue for the first time. I wont want to be associated with them bully types.

I assume that you will also stop attending Cardiff City games forthwith, also?

Clearly, you are a man of impeccable principles and don't wish " to be associated with them bully types," so given that the biggest bully in this whole saga has been Cardiff City's controlling shareholder, I guess that's the end of the road for you in terms of watching the team - until Vincent Tan departs.

Huge respect to you, for your stance

Talking shit like that is why people just cant be bothered with BU, you come across so far up your own ass it must hurt.
I don't do anything to associate myself with Tan and don't want to be associated with BU.

I will however support my team Cardiff City

I'm not directly involved with BU. I simply support their core aims.

I was, of course, being facetious when I suggested that you'll begin boycotting matches because the man running Cardiff City is a bully - even though he clearly is.

Look, in varying degrees, the majority of us want to see Cardiff City's traditional colours restored. Whether BU will prove to be a useful lever towards that aim, only time will tell but the constant misrepresentation of BU and its methods and goals by a number of people in 'internet land' isn't helpful.

I prefer to look at facts: several well attended and peaceful BU meetings, a well stewarded and well behaved march that around a thousand City fans took part in and a billboard that was entirely inoffensive.

Those are the facts. Too many people would prefer to focus in on a few idiots on Facebook and messageboards. I prefer 'real life.'

The wearing of blue in the ground was growing and gathering momentum before Bu came on the scene.They can't take credit for that.As for dead in the water,no.

Agree.

If BU start taking credit for people wearing blue ill sadly have to stop wearing blue for the first time. I wont want to be associated with them bully types.

I assume that you will also stop attending Cardiff City games forthwith, also?

Clearly, you are a man of impeccable principles and don't wish " to be associated with them bully types," so given that the biggest bully in this whole saga has been Cardiff City's controlling shareholder, I guess that's the end of the road for you in terms of watching the team - until Vincent Tan departs.

Huge respect to you, for your stance

Talking shit like that is why people just cant be bothered with BU, you come across so far up your own ass it must hurt.
I don't do anything to associate myself with Tan and don't want to be associated with BU.

I will however support my team Cardiff City

I'm not directly involved with BU. I simply support their core aims.

I was, of course, being facetious when I suggested that you'll begin boycotting matches because the man running Cardiff City is a bully - even though he clearly is.

Look, in varying degrees, the majority of us want to see Cardiff City's traditional colours restored. Whether BU will prove to be a useful lever towards that aim, only time will tell but the constant misrepresentation of BU and its methods and goals by a number of people in 'internet land' isn't helpful.

I prefer to look at facts: several well attended and peaceful BU meetings, a well stewarded and well behaved march that around a thousand City fans took part in and a billboard that was entirely inoffensive.

Those are the facts. Too many people would prefer to focus in on a few idiots on Facebook and messageboards. I prefer 'real life.'

First person to really come up with any sense and answer part of my critisicm on a big post on page 1

Thanks for a better response regarding the plus side of decent members of BU and not mindless tools on the internet

Where do you stand on all the new people joining the blue cause?

In my original post I questioned baked on the fact that's it's taken two years to oppose the red and that many people are just jumping on the bandwagon now which I find hypocritical and now want tan out after he's ploughed close to £130m into the club as I say too many wanting the cake and eating it too!

For me you can't have it all ways as a fan base the majority agreed with red for the investment now we've virtually relieved all the investment they are crying for blue back and to me that is just double standards

The fans who have stepped away from supporting have my utmost respect and I hope blue returns for those as do a few others who have been set against red from day one but really can't year themselves away from something they've followed for 30/40 years but these last few hundred that are joining the bandwagon really grate my arse!

They are chameleons we want the money so well accept red we've now got the money we want tan out

At least tan made his intentions clear that the £100m came with red and that's it like it or lump it he hasn't wilted and is sticking by his guns unlike these chameleons

I'll be honest there's one thing I can't stand and that's a hypocrite/ liar double standards

First person to really come up with any sense and answer part of my critisicm on a big post on page 1

Thanks for a better response regarding the plus side of decent members of BU and not mindless tools on the internet

Where do you stand on all the new people joining the blue cause?

In my original post I questioned baked on the fact that's it's taken two years to oppose the red and that many people are just jumping on the bandwagon now which I find hypocritical and now want tan out after he's ploughed close to £130m into the club as I say too many wanting the cake and eating it too!

For me you can't have it all ways as a fan base the majority agreed with red for the investment now we've virtually relieved all the investment they are crying for blue back and to me that is just double standards

The fans who have stepped away from supporting have my utmost respect and I hope blue returns for those as do a few others who have been set against red from day one but really can't year themselves away from something they've followed for 30/40 years but these last few hundred that are joining the bandwagon really grate my arse!

They are chameleons we want the money so well accept red we've now got the money we want tan out

At least tan made his intentions clear that the £100m came with red and that's it like it or lump it he hasn't wilted and is sticking by his guns unlike these chameleons

I'll be honest there's one thing I can't stand and that's a hypocrite/ liar double standards

I answered your post.

First person to really come up with any sense and answer part of my critisicm on a big post on page 1

Thanks for a better response regarding the plus side of decent members of BU and not mindless tools on the internet

Where do you stand on all the new people joining the blue cause?

In my original post I questioned baked on the fact that's it's taken two years to oppose the red and that many people are just jumping on the bandwagon now which I find hypocritical and now want tan out after he's ploughed close to £130m into the club as I say too many wanting the cake and eating it too!

For me you can't have it all ways as a fan base the majority agreed with red for the investment now we've virtually relieved all the investment they are crying for blue back and to me that is just double standards

The fans who have stepped away from supporting have my utmost respect and I hope blue returns for those as do a few others who have been set against red from day one but really can't year themselves away from something they've followed for 30/40 years but these last few hundred that are joining the bandwagon really grate my arse!

They are chameleons we want the money so well accept red we've now got the money we want tan out

At least tan made his intentions clear that the £100m came with red and that's it like it or lump it he hasn't wilted and is sticking by his guns unlike these chameleons

I'll be honest there's one thing I can't stand and that's a hypocrite/ liar double standards

I answered your post.

Some of it mate yes and in fairness you were honest so appreciate that and I know blue means a lot to you hence why I haven't ridiculed you at all in this thread

Just can't stand these 20 post wonders mate that have more faces than Leigh Francis!

The wearing of blue in the ground was growing and gathering momentum before Bu came on the scene.They can't take credit for that.As for dead in the water,no.

Agree.

If BU start taking credit for people wearing blue ill sadly have to stop wearing blue for the first time. I wont want to be associated with them bully types.

I assume that you will also stop attending Cardiff City games forthwith, also?

Clearly, you are a man of impeccable principles and don't wish " to be associated with them bully types," so given that the biggest bully in this whole saga has been Cardiff City's controlling shareholder, I guess that's the end of the road for you in terms of watching the team - until Vincent Tan departs.

Huge respect to you, for your stance

Talking shit like that is why people just cant be bothered with BU, you come across so far up your own ass it must hurt.
I don't do anything to associate myself with Tan and don't want to be associated with BU.

I will however support my team Cardiff City

I'm not directly involved with BU. I simply support their core aims.

I was, of course, being facetious when I suggested that you'll begin boycotting matches because the man running Cardiff City is a bully - even though he clearly is.

Look, in varying degrees, the majority of us want to see Cardiff City's traditional colours restored. Whether BU will prove to be a useful lever towards that aim, only time will tell but the constant misrepresentation of BU and its methods and goals by a number of people in 'internet land' isn't helpful.

I prefer to look at facts: several well attended and peaceful BU meetings, a well stewarded and well behaved march that around a thousand City fans took part in and a billboard that was entirely inoffensive.

Those are the facts. Too many people would prefer to focus in on a few idiots on Facebook and messageboards. I prefer 'real life.'

First person to really come up with any sense and answer part of my critisicm on a big post on page 1

Thanks for a better response regarding the plus side of decent members of BU and not mindless tools on the internet

Where do you stand on all the new people joining the blue cause?

In my original post I questioned baked on the fact that's it's taken two years to oppose the red and that many people are just jumping on the bandwagon now which I find hypocritical and now want tan out after he's ploughed close to £130m into the club as I say too many wanting the cake and eating it too!

For me you can't have it all ways as a fan base the majority agreed with red for the investment now we've virtually relieved all the investment they are crying for blue back and to me that is just double standards

The fans who have stepped away from supporting have my utmost respect and I hope blue returns for those as do a few others who have been set against red from day one but really can't year themselves away from something they've followed for 30/40 years but these last few hundred that are joining the bandwagon really grate my arse!

They are chameleons we want the money so well accept red we've now got the money we want tan out

At least tan made his intentions clear that the £100m came with red and that's it like it or lump it he hasn't wilted and is sticking by his guns unlike these chameleons

I'll be honest there's one thing I can't stand and that's a hypocrite/ liar double standards

New people joining the "blue cause" is a real positive as far as I'm concerned. I don't care whether they've been supporting the club for five decades or five months, if they value Cardiff City's long established blue/bluebird identity then the more the merrier.

It's worth remembering that although Tan has pumped lots of money into the club, at present it is just loans. There are clearly plenty of people that want to see Tan sell up, hence the 'Tan Out' calls that have become more prevalent over the past 5 or 6 weeks. It is also worth remembering that Cardiff City are now a far more attractive saleable asset than they have been previously. I also think that the guaranteed £120m plus TV money that will swell Cardiff City's coffers is a 'game changer.' The time is right, in my opinion, to put some real pressure on Vincent Tan to either start listening to the fans or sell up.

As for fans having double standards regarding accepting the rebrand in return for the investment, well personally, I didn't accept the investment, the day that the rebrand was confirmed was the day I got a ST refund. I've not been back since. I don't think the fans who reluctantly accepted the rebrand for the investment are necessarily being duplicitous, either - Tan executed a very arrogant move with the rebrand and was always playing a high risk game. If the fans turn against him in large numbers, then as far as I'm concerned, he's reaping what he sowed...

Cardiffs income is about 80million + per season .Tans done the hard bit getting us to the premier,you really think he's going to sell up now and walk away?The publicity for him alone is priceless.