Bluebirds Unite

Tough times ahead,nothing to what's coming.Could you elaborate please nuc.

Tan will run the show but the guy buying In is a real fruitcake. And this guy loves the red and wants a totally red club and he would not invest if it wasn't. There is not a cat in hells chance of going back to blue at the moment unless some extremely rich City fan buys them out. And that aint gonna happen chief

cheers nuc.what's the investors name ?

Kenny

Great post and this was something I said at the very first meeting when the news was given to us. The man is a loose cannon and those close to him can't even second guess him, I hear he is so stubborn he really will cut his own nose off to spite his face and he will do whatever it takes to prevent what he's see's as being trumped.

My view from the start was to thank him for the investment, and then turn up to every game wearing blue, not as a protest, just to show it means a lot to us and to show the sacrifice it was giving up the blue, but for a price worth paying in the majority's eyes.

All the calls for not buying season tickets, not buying programmes, not buying food and drink etc. would just hit the finances of the club, yes his club, his finances but that's how it works and we would be hurting our own club's chances as I seen it, and still do.

I don't think he got into this for the money, more a case for massaging his ego, and prestige, how much more money does the man need? it's all about being seen as successful and having the "Midas touch" well I think now he realises there's no business like football business, let alone show business.

Well let's allow him the prestige of making us a top club, let's allow him to make money, but by taking the simple action of supporting the team fully but not singing songs about red, or his name and wearing blue, it will have an affect.

We don't need to drive him out, he'll go of his own accord if he can't get his own way totally, and I think that is finally starting to hit home to him, he can't afford to fail, and not in monetary terms, more in getting his own way fully.

It could all have been so different, it wasn't and it is what it is, so make the most of it before the good times pass you by.

I dont know you Gwyn and have disagreed with some of what you have said in the past, but, credit where its due, that is the most sense I have read on the old fool.

Its got to a stage now its all about Bluebirds unite and not about Cardiff City. On merchandise there is nothing about Cardiff City on there. That is strange as they can have our name and Bluebirds unite on tops being sold. It sems some are now more into self image, and fans are now being turned off in droves.

A great idea but it is more about personalities than the objective.

The sad thing is marches etc will not make an impact. The sit in after the jacks game was a good idea but needed a lot more bodies than was there.

But the truth is the club will not be back tracking on this red shit as our future has been decided and red it is, But we as fans can do our bit to protect our identity by not wearing the red and keeping tbe ground blue is the way to piss Tan off. That way its a visual not even Tan and Lim can suppress.

Totally agree Nukes (thats twice ive said that in the past 6 months now and its getting weird ).
The way BU belittle the fans they needed to join them meant it was mission impossible for them.
Never liked the groups attitude and its no surprise Tan ignores them, which is silly as its the complete opposite they needed.

The "I don't need to sell my soul" slogan and merchandise was pretty much the nail in the coffin for a ;lot of people I've spoke with. Id rather just wear my own blue top with City's real badge on it.

Yes well Luke the truth does hurt and some people don't like hearing it.

So buy shirt off BU at a cost and you haven't sold your soul, it's laughable. The only person I could respect in that top is someone who no longer goes to games.

Great post and this was something I said at the very first meeting when the news was given to us. The man is a loose cannon and those close to him can't even second guess him, I hear he is so stubborn he really will cut his own nose off to spite his face and he will do whatever it takes to prevent what he's see's as being trumped.

My view from the start was to thank him for the investment, and then turn up to every game wearing blue, not as a protest, just to show it means a lot to us and to show the sacrifice it was giving up the blue, but for a price worth paying in the majority's eyes.

All the calls for not buying season tickets, not buying programmes, not buying food and drink etc. would just hit the finances of the club, yes his club, his finances but that's how it works and we would be hurting our own club's chances as I seen it, and still do.

I don't think he got into this for the money, more a case for massaging his ego, and prestige, how much more money does the man need? it's all about being seen as successful and having the "Midas touch" well I think now he realises there's no business like football business, let alone show business.

Well let's allow him the prestige of making us a top club, let's allow him to make money, but by taking the simple action of supporting the team fully but not singing songs about red, or his name and wearing blue, it will have an affect.

We don't need to drive him out, he'll go of his own accord if he can't get his own way totally, and I think that is finally starting to hit home to him, he can't afford to fail, and not in monetary terms, more in getting his own way fully.

It could all have been so different, it wasn't and it is what it is, so make the most of it before the good times pass you by.

Thats why you threatened me and at that uni meeting did to other blues, thats why you and your family bought red and wore it

And what threat was that then, heard lot's of claims and accusations, but yet to read of one actual threat made by me, dream on. My wife can buy and wear what she wants to, she don't do politics, she wears what colour the team plays in, her choice.

Tough times ahead,nothing to what's coming.Could you elaborate please nuc.

Tan will run the show but the guy buying In is a real fruitcake. And this guy loves the red and wants a totally red club and he would not invest if it wasn't. There is not a cat in hells chance of going back to blue at the moment unless some extremely rich City fan buys them out. And that aint gonna happen chief

cheers nuc.what's the investors name ?

He has been mentioned on here before many times and his initials are PL
Hmmmmmm

Tough times ahead,nothing to what's coming.Could you elaborate please nuc.

Tan will run the show but the guy buying In is a real fruitcake. And this guy loves the red and wants a totally red club and he would not invest if it wasn't. There is not a cat in hells chance of going back to blue at the moment unless some extremely rich City fan buys them out. And that aint gonna happen chief

cheers nuc.what's the investors name ?

He has been mentioned on here before many times and his initials are PL
Hmmmmmm

Guy who tried to buy Liverpool?

Tough times ahead,nothing to what's coming.Could you elaborate please nuc.

Tan will run the show but the guy buying In is a real fruitcake. And this guy loves the red and wants a totally red club and he would not invest if it wasn't. There is not a cat in hells chance of going back to blue at the moment unless some extremely rich City fan buys them out. And that aint gonna happen chief

cheers nuc.what's the investors name ?

He has been mentioned on here before many times and his initials are PL
Hmmmmmm

Guy who tried to buy Liverpool?

Hmmmmm Fruitcake

Its got to a stage now its all about Bluebirds unite and not about Cardiff City. On merchandise there is nothing about Cardiff City on there. That is strange as they can have our name and Bluebirds unite on tops being sold. It sems some are now more into self image, and fans are now being turned off in droves.

A great idea but it is more about personalities than the objective.

The sad thing is marches etc will not make an impact. The sit in after the jacks game was a good idea but needed a lot more bodies than was there.

But the truth is the club will not be back tracking on this red shit as our future has been decided and red it is, But we as fans can do our bit to protect our identity by not wearing the red and keeping tbe ground blue is the way to piss Tan off. That way its a visual not even Tan and Lim can suppress.

Agree with all but the last paragraph. Though that's not the point, the rest is top drawer

Tough times ahead,nothing to what's coming.Could you elaborate please nuc.

Tan will run the show but the guy buying In is a real fruitcake. And this guy loves the red and wants a totally red club and he would not invest if it wasn't. There is not a cat in hells chance of going back to blue at the moment unless some extremely rich City fan buys them out. And that aint gonna happen chief

cheers nuc.what's the investors name ?

He has been mentioned on here before many times and his initials are PL
Hmmmmmm

Guy who tried to buy Liverpool?

Kenny Huang.

Tough times ahead,nothing to what's coming.Could you elaborate please nuc.

Tan will run the show but the guy buying In is a real fruitcake. And this guy loves the red and wants a totally red club and he would not invest if it wasn't. There is not a cat in hells chance of going back to blue at the moment unless some extremely rich City fan buys them out. And that aint gonna happen chief

cheers nuc.what's the investors name ?

He has been mentioned on here before many times and his initials are PL
Hmmmmmm

Guy who tried to buy Liverpool?

Hmmmmm Fruitcake

Another rich fruitcake, what is it with Cardiff City and rich fruitcakes onwers

Tough times ahead,nothing to what's coming.Could you elaborate please nuc.

Tan will run the show but the guy buying In is a real fruitcake. And this guy loves the red and wants a totally red club and he would not invest if it wasn't. There is not a cat in hells chance of going back to blue at the moment unless some extremely rich City fan buys them out. And that aint gonna happen chief

cheers nuc.what's the investors name ?

He has been mentioned on here before many times and his initials are PL
Hmmmmmm

Guy who tried to buy Liverpool?

Hmmmmm Fruitcake

Another rich fruitcake, what is it with Cardiff City and rich fruitcakes onwers

That is so true.

Its got to a stage now its all about Bluebirds unite and not about Cardiff City. On merchandise there is nothing about Cardiff City on there. That is strange as they can have our name and Bluebirds unite on tops being sold. It sems some are now more into self image, and fans are now being turned off in droves.

A great idea but it is more about personalities than the objective.

The sad thing is marches etc will not make an impact. The sit in after the jacks game was a good idea but needed a lot more bodies than was there.

But the truth is the club will not be back tracking on this red shit as our future has been decided and red it is, But we as fans can do our bit to protect our identity by not wearing the red and keeping tbe ground blue is the way to piss Tan off. That way its a visual not even Tan and Lim can suppress.

Totally agree Nukes (thats twice ive said that in the past 6 months now and its getting weird ).
The way BU belittle the fans they needed to join them meant it was mission impossible for them.
Never liked the groups attitude and its no surprise Tan ignores them, which is silly as its the complete opposite they needed.

The "I don't need to sell my soul" slogan and merchandise was pretty much the nail in the coffin for a ;lot of people I've spoke with. Id rather just wear my own blue top with City's real badge on it.

Yes well Luke the truth does hurt and some people don't like hearing it.

So buy shirt off BU at a cost and you haven't sold your soul, it's laughable. The only person I could respect in that top is someone who no longer goes to games.

Oh I see because someone continues to go to the games after speaking out you have no respect for them. I'm taking it you stopped going to games when you had an issue with the club then or have you never had a problem with the regime?

Its got to a stage now its all about Bluebirds unite and not about Cardiff City. On merchandise there is nothing about Cardiff City on there. That is strange as they can have our name and Bluebirds unite on tops being sold. It sems some are now more into self image, and fans are now being turned off in droves.

A great idea but it is more about personalities than the objective.

The sad thing is marches etc will not make an impact. The sit in after the jacks game was a good idea but needed a lot more bodies than was there.

But the truth is the club will not be back tracking on this red shit as our future has been decided and red it is, But we as fans can do our bit to protect our identity by not wearing the red and keeping tbe ground blue is the way to piss Tan off. That way its a visual not even Tan and Lim can suppress.

I totally disagree with you.

Firstly, there is a F off great bluebird on Bluebirds Unite's logo. If they had Cardiff City on stuff, then fans would criticise them and say they are a pressure group and that it is not appropriate to use the clubs name. They can't win with some moaners!

Secondly, you say the marches etc won't make an impact? Really? They had UK wide media attention, and unless you claim to be a time traveler, you simply don't know what the future holds, so don't claim to.

Thirdly, you then say the sit in was a good idea (but the march was bad? erm?!) but not enough went..so now you want Bluebirds Unite to push for a sit in or not? You slagging them off doesn't help!

Finally, and most importantly, fans are coming on board to Bluebirds Unite. Fans aren't being turned off in their droves at all.. you cannot back up that statement whatsoever!

I'm tired of people on here whingeing and whingeing because Bluebirds Unite don't suit their own personal goals.

FFS, Bluebirds Unite have got off their arse and are organising stuff, and you are going to slag them off because they don't have the right letters on their logo?

I'm sorry, but you are using that as an excuse to sit on the fence. If you truly cared about City's identity you'd overlook it for the greater good of getting our colours back.

Can't agree with this nukes,it's pretty clear Bluebirds Unite are Cardiff fans, they're not making Cardiff shirts they're missing stuff to promote Bluebirds Unite. Can't understand constant negativity about a group trying to get blue back, makes me wonder why we bother at times.

Some are looking for the "perfect protest", but with so many opinions and thoughts, that's never going to happen.

For what it's worth, I feel BU should stick to the blue issue & not get into Tan out politics.

As you all know I hate the red with a passion everything about it. But it was vincent Tans plan from the very start with his best buddy (who actually wants the red not Tan) which will soon become reality when the club is floated.Without the red the club will not be floated.
But I can see very tough times ahead, as this is nothing to what is coming and the fans need to turn on there own. We are Cardiff City the Bluebirds and anyone that cares even slightly about our history will end up heart broken. And it will be left to us the fans to unite and to remind the world who we are.
I stated this when the rebrand first happened. Bluebirds Unite is a fantastic idea and they have done well but they now need to adapt or die a slow death. They need to make this about Cardiff City the Bluebirds not about Bluebirds unite.

Only time will tell if this prophecy comes to light. I would not bet on it not happening though.

What I would bet on though is that if BU had not risen then the blue would have been dead by now.

Can't agree with this nukes,it's pretty clear Bluebirds Unite are Cardiff fans, they're not making Cardiff shirts they're missing stuff to promote Bluebirds Unite. Can't understand constant negativity about a group trying to get blue back, makes me wonder why we bother at times.

Exactly.

I'm sick of people saying

"Well I dont support Bluebirds Unite because they don't have Cardiff City on their logo"

"Well I don't support Bluebirds Unite because some members swear on facebook"

"Well I don't support Bluebirds Unite because I like to have a beer before the game, not march"

"Well I don't support Bluebirds Unite because I want a detailed breakdown of their expenditure.

Jesus, some of you sound like a bunch of school kids.

You need to overlook the petty differences and get behind (implicity or otherwise) the onyl group in town that is ready and willing to fight for our identity.

Of course Bluebirds Unite isn't perfect for everyone, but see the greater good FFS, or else we'll be stuck in the filthy red forever.

Tan want's us divided. Don't give him the pleasure.

Its got to a stage now its all about Bluebirds unite and not about Cardiff City. On merchandise there is nothing about Cardiff City on there. That is strange as they can have our name and Bluebirds unite on tops being sold. It sems some are now more into self image, and fans are now being turned off in droves.

A great idea but it is more about personalities than the objective.

The sad thing is marches etc will not make an impact. The sit in after the jacks game was a good idea but needed a lot more bodies than was there.

But the truth is the club will not be back tracking on this red shit as our future has been decided and red it is, But we as fans can do our bit to protect our identity by not wearing the red and keeping tbe ground blue is the way to piss Tan off. That way its a visual not even Tan and Lim can suppress.

Totally agree Nukes (thats twice ive said that in the past 6 months now and its getting weird ).
The way BU belittle the fans they needed to join them meant it was mission impossible for them.
Never liked the groups attitude and its no surprise Tan ignores them, which is silly as its the complete opposite they needed.

The "I don't need to sell my soul" slogan and merchandise was pretty much the nail in the coffin for a ;lot of people I've spoke with. Id rather just wear my own blue top with City's real badge on it.

Yes well Luke the truth does hurt and some people don't like hearing it.

So buy shirt off BU at a cost and you haven't sold your soul, it's laughable. The only person I could respect in that top is someone who no longer goes to games.

Oh I see because someone continues to go to the games after speaking out you have no respect for them. I'm taking it you stopped going to games when you had an issue with the club then or have you never had a problem with the regime?

I have no objection to that but other than buy a cheap and nasty TShirt they haven't done anything different to the guy wearing a red top. It must make them feel better but it makes them look very silly to me. How haven't they sold their soul?

The selling the soul thing refers to people who wear red, not people who go to games.

Not sure I agree with the sentiment either way.

Cardiff Kid Bluebirds Unite is an excellent idea and started of so well. But I feel now its more about individuals and not about the cause.
Also its about Cardiff City, its about getting our blue back. Its about our badge our nickname. Its about our whole history which feels like it is being erased. Not to antagonise it was started as a celebration of our history and im gonna sound hypocritical here as I started calling fans sell outs and sold our souls and in many ways us as fans have for the price of success.But the t shirts with sold your souls has turned fans away. And the against modern football which confuses the fook out of me.
My belief has always been to persude the fans to ditch the red and wear blue at games as this is the visual effect that will remind everyone that Cardiff City are blue.

As you all know I hate the red with a passion everything about it. But it was vincent Tans plan from the very start with his best buddy (who actually wants the red not Tan) which will soon become reality when the club is floated.Without the red the club will not be floated.
But I can see very tough times ahead, as this is nothing to what is coming and the fans need to turn on there own. We are Cardiff City the Bluebirds and anyone that cares even slightly about our history will end up heart broken. And it will be left to us the fans to unite and to remind the world who we are.
I stated this when the rebrand first happened. Bluebirds Unite is a fantastic idea and they have done well but they now need to adapt or die a slow death. They need to make this about Cardiff City the Bluebirds not about Bluebirds unite.

Only time will tell if this prophecy comes to light. I would not bet on it not happening though.

What I would bet on though is that if BU had not risen then the blue would have been dead by now.

The blue would never have been dead

As you all know I hate the red with a passion everything about it. But it was vincent Tans plan from the very start with his best buddy (who actually wants the red not Tan) which will soon become reality when the club is floated.Without the red the club will not be floated.
But I can see very tough times ahead, as this is nothing to what is coming and the fans need to turn on there own. We are Cardiff City the Bluebirds and anyone that cares even slightly about our history will end up heart broken. And it will be left to us the fans to unite and to remind the world who we are.
I stated this when the rebrand first happened. Bluebirds Unite is a fantastic idea and they have done well but they now need to adapt or die a slow death. They need to make this about Cardiff City the Bluebirds not about Bluebirds unite.

Only time will tell if this prophecy comes to light. I would not bet on it not happening though.

What I would bet on though is that if BU had not risen then the blue would have been dead by now.

The blue would never have been dead

Right

As you all know I hate the red with a passion everything about it. But it was vincent Tans plan from the very start with his best buddy (who actually wants the red not Tan) which will soon become reality when the club is floated.Without the red the club will not be floated.
But I can see very tough times ahead, as this is nothing to what is coming and the fans need to turn on there own. We are Cardiff City the Bluebirds and anyone that cares even slightly about our history will end up heart broken. And it will be left to us the fans to unite and to remind the world who we are.
I stated this when the rebrand first happened. Bluebirds Unite is a fantastic idea and they have done well but they now need to adapt or die a slow death. They need to make this about Cardiff City the Bluebirds not about Bluebirds unite.

Only time will tell if this prophecy comes to light. I would not bet on it not happening though.

What I would bet on though is that if BU had not risen then the blue would have been dead by now.

Fans would of worn Blue to games with BU or without BU, Blue would not be dead by now imo

Cardiff Kid Bluebirds Unite is an excellent idea and started of so well. But I feel now its more about individuals and not about the cause.
Also its about Cardiff City, its about getting our blue back. Its about our badge our nickname. Its about our whole history which feels like it is being erased. Not to antagonise it was started as a celebration of our history and im gonna sound hypocritical here as I started calling fans sell outs and sold our souls and in many ways us as fans have for the price of success.But the t shirts with sould your souls has turned fans away. And the against modern football which confuses the fook out of me.
My belief has always been to persude the fans to ditch the red and wear blue at games as this is the visual effect that will remind everyone that Cardiff City are blue.

Nuclear Blue, it is absolutely NOT about personalities. I think that is a really unkind thing to say. Of course, Sian Branson is now better known, but thats because Bluebirds Unite are in the media. Do you want Bluebirds Unite to get media attention, but the group founder to turn up in a balaclava called Mrs X? It is NOT about personalities, I really don't think you can say that.

Against Modern Football, Sold your soul, Tan Out..these aren't on Official B.U press releases, it's stuff that other pro-blues choose to wear. Bluebirds Unite has getting on for 4,000 members on Facebook alone. That's 4,000 different opinions on things. They are no more responsible for someone shouting 'Tan Out' than Annis is responsible for someone doing the same on here.

I agree with you..we need to convince fans to ditch the red and wear blue, but the marches, the sit ins, the media interviews, the billboards, the songs, the individuals wearing blue with or without bluebirds unites influence is doing that.

As said, Bluebirds Unite will never be all things to all men. That is a total impossibility, but I ask you, as a pro-blue, why spend your energy slagging them off and undermining them? I'd urge you to overlook any differences (as I do) and focus on the overwhelming positive, which is to fight for a return to blue.

Let's stay United in Blue, not divided in Red. As city fans we WILL win this, and Bluebirds Unite are helping big time and I am so thankful that they are here.

Making a stand?

If they were so serious about their beliefs then they wouldn't choose to do a march every so often, doing it once every 2 months just shows how passionate they are.

Making a stand?

If they were so serious about their beliefs then they wouldn't choose to do a march every so often, doing it once every 2 months just shows how passionate they are.

I literally have no idea what you are trying to say here..

Wouldn't bother Cardiff Kid, dando ccfc sums up the type of keyboard warrior negativity you'll get on here. Don't know why on bother coming on here. If this board is a representation of the fans down there now then I'm f*cking glad I'm boycotting.

Making a stand?

If they were so serious about their beliefs then they wouldn't choose to do a march every so often, doing it once every 2 months just shows how passionate they are.

I literally have no idea what you are trying to say here..

Well they done a march v Man City and are only now planning on doing one for Manchester United home, they are wasting a lot of time by doing it every few weeks or months, if they was so serious they would surely being doing a march every game.

Making a stand?

If they were so serious about their beliefs then they wouldn't choose to do a march every so often, doing it once every 2 months just shows how passionate they are.

I literally have no idea what you are trying to say here..

Kid your wasting your time with Dando on this subject. If BU marched every game the response from him would be on the lines of supporters will only get bored of marches or these marchers are an inconvenience because I have to walk around them or the colour of their blue shirts hurts my eyes.

Mind you it not just Dando but a few others who come under that category.

Cardiff kid against Man City I came out of central and saw the march start so I thought fook it and joined in. Yes people were clapping as we went along, and also wanted to slap that guy in Canton that was shouting we aint Cardiff City we are the Cardiff. But the more marches you have the amount attending will drop.
I must ask why wasnt Sian at the sit in ? instead sat in the pub !! I maybe wrong on that but im sure you will put me right if I am.

I