FIGHT IN THE TOILETS YESTERDAY

Don't have to claim i didn't threaten anyone at the meeting, because it's just fact, don't you think logically after all this time and all these accusations, you would have actually have read one threat made by me and backed up with proof and first hand statements rather than, Billly Jones friend's cousin heard of a mates sister that I supposedly threatened someone.

And where have I claimed to be proud of needing counselling, a lot of the problem's have to do with bereavement issues and dealing with that and some of the anger and frustration that goes with it, I'm not proud,far from it, wish i didn't need any help, and wish there was no need to seek any.

Fair enough Gwyn. I don't believe for a second that you threatened anyone because if you had, there'd have been complaints made to the police. I was just stating that some may take the fact you've mentioned anger management sessions and deduce from that, that you are indeed capable of threatening someone else as some have claimed you did at the meeting. You know what people can be like on here with their tails wagging ready to jump to assumptions at any opportunity to have a go. You've faced it both barrels on here and on the other board only recently whereby they've attacked because of the poster and not the point.

but I have just had seven sessions of anger management counselling

Hmm. See, when you admit things like this and then claim you didn't threaten anyone at the meeting it doesn't really come across well does it Gwyn? Why you'd post this on the board regardless I don't know. Nothing to be proud of having to be counselled so that you can keep your emotions in check.

Don't have to claim i didn't threaten anyone at the meeting, because it's just fact, don't you think logically after all this time and all these accusations, you would have actually have read one threat made by me and backed up with proof and first hand statements rather than, Billly Jones friend's cousin heard of a mates sister that I supposedly threatened someone.

And where have I claimed to be proud of needing counselling, a lot of the problem's have to do with bereavement issues and dealing with that and some of the anger and frustration that goes with it, I'm not proud,far from it, wish i didn't need any help, and wish there was no need to seek any.

many years ago my mother passed away at 42 i was 21,i wish counselling was more
prominent then,the slightess thing would set me off, only when you get older an wiser
do you realise the frustration an pain is what is coming out,as you are aware gwyn it does get easier
but never goes away

Don't have to claim i didn't threaten anyone at the meeting, because it's just fact, don't you think logically after all this time and all these accusations, you would have actually have read one threat made by me and backed up with proof and first hand statements rather than, Billly Jones friend's cousin heard of a mates sister that I supposedly threatened someone.

And where have I claimed to be proud of needing counselling, a lot of the problem's have to do with bereavement issues and dealing with that and some of the anger and frustration that goes with it, I'm not proud,far from it, wish i didn't need any help, and wish there was no need to seek any.

Fair enough Gwyn. I don't believe for a second that you threatened anyone because if you had, there'd have been complaints made to the police. I was just stating that some may take the fact you've mentioned anger management sessions and deduce from that, that you are indeed capable of threatening someone else as some have claimed you did at the meeting. You know what people can be like on here with their tails wagging ready to jump to assumptions at any opportunity to have a go. You've faced it both barrels on here and on the other board only recently whereby they've attacked because of the poster and not the point.

i think you owe Gwynn an apology malky is my god.

i think you owe Gwynn an apology malky is my god.

Gwyn knows I have respect for what he went through and I am not going to even pretend to know how it must feel.

The point I was making was that some people (trolls) will deduce from the fact he's had anger management that he could be capable of someone making threats. As proven with Johnny in this thread, logic isn't this board's strong point.

Ask Gwyn himself and he'll tell you he gets flack all the time for being Gwyn. Only this last week was his post jumped all over and was he personally attacked because of who he is, not because of the actual post and had it been anyone else it would not have happened.

If I did offend Gwyn then I sincerely apologise Gwyn but that is not the point I was trying to make.

Someone who has had anger management.
Someone who has been alleged to have made threats to someone.
Someone who had been very vocal in his opposition to Bluebirds Unite/KCB early on.

People will make assumptions on that front because they do that on here and Gwyn knows that first hand. Like I said before, had Gwyn made threats then why didn't these people go to the police? I would if someone made threats towards myself or my family and thats the truth. That won't stop people assuming though.

My point was by Gwyn mentioning he had anger management he's just dangling more bait for the idiots to use against him. Im fed up of reading every week about how Gwyn was vocal for the rebrand in the beginning and allegedly threatened people, then you have the other idiots who even thought Sam got Gwyn a house then the other stories about how the forum is only about hits, how Carl is wrong or whatever etc. and this constantly being brought up. There seems to be a few on here only intent on attacking other members.

Lets focus on the footy.

i think you owe Gwynn an apology malky is my god.

Gwyn knows I have respect for what he went through and I am not going to even pretend to know how it must feel.

The point I was making was that some people (trolls) will deduce from the fact he's had anger management that he could be capable of someone making threats. As proven with Johnny in this thread, logic isn't this board's strong point.

Ask Gwyn himself and he'll tell you he gets flack all the time for being Gwyn. Only this last week was his post jumped all over and was he personally attacked because of who he is, not because of the actual post and had it been anyone else it would not have happened.

If I did offend Gwyn then I sincerely apologise Gwyn but that is not the point I was trying to make.

Someone who has had anger management.
Someone who has been alleged to have made threats to someone.
Someone who had been very vocal in his opposition to Bluebirds Unite/KCB early on.

People will make assumptions on that front because they do that on here and Gwyn knows that first hand. Like I said before, had Gwyn made threats then why didn't these people go to the police? I would if someone made threats towards myself or my family and thats the truth. That won't stop people assuming though.

My point was by Gwyn mentioning he had anger management he's just dangling more bait for the idiots to use against him. Im fed up of reading every week about how Gwyn was vocal for the rebrand in the beginning and allegedly threatened people, then you have the other idiots who even thought Sam got Gwyn a house then the other stories about how the forum is only about hits, how Carl is wrong or whatever etc. and this constantly being brought up. There seems to be a few on here only intent on attacking other members.

Lets focus on the footy.

dont you dare try and use this situation to belittle me im not a troll.

youre in the wrong least thing you should do is apologise instead of trying to wriggle your way out of it

dont you dare try and use this situation to belittle me im not a troll.

I wasn't alluding to you. I mean others who come on here and attack the likes of Gwyn for alleged incidents in the past.

i think you owe Gwynn an apology malky is my god.

Gwyn knows I have respect for what he went through and I am not going to even pretend to know how it must feel.

The point I was making was that some people (trolls) will deduce from the fact he's had anger management that he could be capable of someone making threats. As proven with Johnny in this thread, logic isn't this board's strong point.

Ask Gwyn himself and he'll tell you he gets flack all the time for being Gwyn. Only this last week was his post jumped all over and was he personally attacked because of who he is, not because of the actual post and had it been anyone else it would not have happened.

If I did offend Gwyn then I sincerely apologise Gwyn but that is not the point I was trying to make.

Someone who has had anger management.
Someone who has been alleged to have made threats to someone.
Someone who had been very vocal in his opposition to Bluebirds Unite/KCB early on.

People will make assumptions on that front because they do that on here and Gwyn knows that first hand. Like I said before, had Gwyn made threats then why didn't these people go to the police? I would if someone made threats towards myself or my family and thats the truth. That won't stop people assuming though.

My point was by Gwyn mentioning he had anger management he's just dangling more bait for the idiots to use against him. Im fed up of reading every week about how Gwyn was vocal for the rebrand in the beginning and allegedly threatened people, then you have the other idiots who even thought Sam got Gwyn a house then the other stories about how the forum is only about hits, how Carl is wrong or whatever etc. and this constantly being brought up. There seems to be a few on here only intent on attacking other members.

Lets focus on the footy.

we're you really called malky is my god ?
if so it sounds like you were his no1 fan.what changed your mind?

we're you really called malky is my god ?
if so it sounds like you were his no1 fan.what changed your mind?

Yes. I still have a massive amount of respect for Malky, Legs 11. The problem is I do believe that he's out of his depth. I had respect and still do respect Ricky Hatton but I knew he'd be out of his depth against Floyd Mayweather as well. Identifying and accepting the truth is hard but it doesn't mean you still don't respect the person in question. Malky should always be respected for taking us up and I do think he'll eventually go on to be a top manager but are we a club that needs a learning manager or someone who knows his trade already? I think Malky is still learning and during that learning curve we may very well lose some vital points, hence my worry.

dont you dare try and use this situation to belittle me im not a troll.

I wasn't alluding to you. I mean others who come on here and attack the likes of Gwyn for alleged incidents in the past.

oh I see you were talking about yourself

I apologise for thinking your post was about me, despite you using my username, I hope you can forgive me

we're you really called malky is my god ?
if so it sounds like you were his no1 fan.what changed your mind?

Yes. I still have a massive amount of respect for Malky, Legs 11. The problem is I do believe that he's out of his depth. I had respect and still do respect Ricky Hatton but I knew he'd be out of his depth against Floyd Mayweather as well. Identifying and accepting the truth is hard but it doesn't mean you still don't respect the person in question. Malky should always be respected for taking us up and I do think he'll eventually go on to be a top manager but are we a club that needs a learning manager or someone who knows his trade already? I think Malky is still learning and during that learning curve we may very well lose some vital points, hence my worry.

do you want him to stay or go ?

I apologise for thinking your post was about me, despite you using my username, I hope you can forgive me

What are you banging on about now? If you're offended or whatever then take it up with me in person. Until then, goodbye.

I only mentioned you briefly in one statement 'As proven with Johnny in this thread, logic isn't this board's strong point.' and that was in regards to our debate on the indifferent thing which I clearly explained to you in the end.

The rest of the post was in regards to others who've in the past attacked the likes of Gwyn, myself, Chuckles, Carl, Annis, Polo, Dando, etc. and so on just because of the username and not the actual posting content.

Good grief you do go off on a tangent when you get stroppy. Heaven forbid you ever get your high vis jacket and whistle back.

do you want him to stay or go ?

It depends.

If he's to be fully backed in January I wont mind him staying.

If he's not backed which was what I believed to be the case given Tan saying there would be a lack of funds available, then I'd rather a new manager come in who Tan will not only back but also a manager with a fresh set of ideas to take this team to the next level I believe it can reach.

I would, being bluntly honest, rather him replaced and I am not afraid to admit it. QPR took too long to change things and got punished and in the end it was too late. Whilst I respect what he has done for this club I am a fan of the club first and foremost and that is my main concern.

I apologise for thinking your post was about me, despite you using my username, I hope you can forgive me

What are you banging on about now? If you're offended or whatever then take it up with me in person. Until then, goodbye.

I only mentioned you briefly in one statement 'As proven with Johnny in this thread, logic isn't this board's strong point.' and that was in regards to our debate on the indifferent thing which I clearly explained to you in the end.

The rest of the post was in regards to others who've in the past attacked the likes of Gwyn, myself, Chuckles, Carl, Annis, Polo, Dando, etc. and so on just because of the username and not the actual posting content.

Good grief you do go off on a tangent when you get stroppy. Heaven forbid you ever get your high vis jacket and whistle back.

wow

children should always remain quiet when adults are talking

you clearly have no spine or any sense of morals

I warned you you were digging yourself a hole didnt listen did you

Now you havent got the decency to apologise for your comments to gwyn, pretending you were only advising people how people may attack him and you expect people to buy that oh dear.

Now you havent got the decency to apologise for your comments to gwyn, pretending you were only advising people how people may attack him and you expect people to buy that oh dear.

I actually did apologise further up.

I give up with you honestly. Obvious troll is obvious. Like I have already said, if you want to discuss matters further we can do so like adults face to face as I fear through this communication medium we are just going around in circles.

Now you havent got the decency to apologise for your comments to gwyn, pretending you were only advising people how people may attack him and you expect people to buy that oh dear.

I actually did apologise further up.

I give up with you honestly. Obvious troll is obvious. Like I have already said, if you want to discuss matters further we can do so like adults face to face as I fear through this communication medium we are just going around in circles.

that wasnt an apology that was a an attempt to wash away blame and trying to pin it on others

oh and I thought I wasnt a troll, I thought I just struggle with logic?

make up your mind will you

that wasnt an apology that was a an attempt to wash away blame and trying to pin it on others

No, it was an apology.

'If I did offend Gwyn then I sincerely apologise Gwyn but that is not the point I was trying to make.'

oh and I thought I wasnt a troll, I thought I just struggle with logic?

make up your mind will you

Now you're trolling by continuing on.

that wasnt an apology that was a an attempt to wash away blame and trying to pin it on others

No, it was an apology.

'If I did offend Gwyn then I sincerely apologise Gwyn but that is not the point I was trying to make.'

oh and I thought I wasnt a troll, I thought I just struggle with logic?

make up your mind will you

Now you're trolling by continuing on.

no you start with 'If I did offend' which means youre not taking any responsibility and it was the point you were trying to make.

now im going to stop now because I have morals and a sense of decency I suggest you do the same

that wasnt an apology that was a an attempt to wash away blame and trying to pin it on others

No, it was an apology.

'If I did offend Gwyn then I sincerely apologise Gwyn but that is not the point I was trying to make.'

oh and I thought I wasnt a troll, I thought I just struggle with logic?

make up your mind will you

Now you're trolling by continuing on.

no you start with 'If I did offend' which means youre not taking any responsibility and it was the point you were trying to make.

now im going to stop now because I have morals and a sense of decency I suggest you do the same

Oh please shove your holier than thou attitude up your backside pal. If Gwyn was offended I'm sure he'd have let me know by now but I had no intention of offending Gwyn anyway.