Who will buy us?

Our club is now a very viable club, big stadium, big support and future owners now know we are potentially a massive club with 260,000 fans now on our database. Listen the quicker he goes the better, we can once again be a proud club and yes our fans have never always agreed, but never divided like we are nowadays.

There is always a buyer out there some where and that is a true, Ive seen us at deaths door on at least 5 occasions over the 40 odd years Ive supported City and sometimes with an hour to go and that was when we were not a viable club.

What if the new owners won't go back to blue? will you want them out aswell?

YES

Did you want other owners who changed our badge out Annis

Jinks, when Sam changed our badge with the backing of certain fans, I never spoke to him for a year and I refused to ever buy anything with it on, but at least he kept us Welsh, not Lebanese or Malayasian, True?

Our club is now a very viable club, big stadium, big support and future owners now know we are potentially a massive club with 260,000 fans now on our database. Listen the quicker he goes the better, we can once again be a proud club and yes our fans have never always agreed, but never divided like we are nowadays.

There is always a buyer out there some where and that is a true, Ive seen us at deaths door on at least 5 occasions over the 40 odd years Ive supported City and sometimes with an hour to go and that was when we were not a viable club.

What if the new owners won't go back to blue? will you want them out aswell?

YES

Did you want other owners who changed our badge out Annis

Jinks, when Sam changed our badge with the backing of certain fans, I never spoke to him for a year and I refused to ever buy anything with it on, but at least he kept us Welsh, not Lebanese or Malayasian, True?

But we were completely bust.

Our club is now a very viable club, big stadium, big support and future owners now know we are potentially a massive club with 260,000 fans now on our database. Listen the quicker he goes the better, we can once again be a proud club and yes our fans have never always agreed, but never divided like we are nowadays.

There is always a buyer out there some where and that is a true, Ive seen us at deaths door on at least 5 occasions over the 40 odd years Ive supported City and sometimes with an hour to go and that was when we were not a viable club.

What if the new owners won't go back to blue? will you want them out aswell?

YES

Did you want other owners who changed our badge out Annis

Jinks, when Sam changed our badge with the backing of certain fans, I never spoke to him for a year and I refused to ever buy anything with it on, but at least he kept us Welsh, not Lebanese or Malayasian, True?

True..
But he had the idea of rebranding us to green and having a sycamore tree on the badge it never came off but he wanted to do it ..
Malaysia flags are in the stadium and shirts as they are our main sponsors i'm sure if peters pies were our main sponsors then we would have peters pies everywhere..

Annis. The perception you have regarding the requirements for takeover are about 30 years out of date.

The size of the stadium or local fanbase (on a level such as cardiff) has little to no baring on viabilility of investment for owners. Its small fry. Only a small percentage of revenue comes from these shores, marketing is big business globally which is why Tan fobs off the welsh market place to concentrate on the eastern market.... Vastly under estimating the task in hand some may say and which i assume now he is realising also.

30,000 stadium is still one of the smallest in the league anyway. The extra 4,000 tickets able to be sold would stack up to about £1.8m extra income after tax and thats if sold out for every league game. Its absolutely nothing really is it?

260,000 on a database is useless too, unless those 260,000 are clamouring to buy gear and tickets to which they clearly arent. In fact not even an 8th of that number.

So in order for you to be taken over for the sums of money Tan will require to recoup what he has invested then your "brand" will have to reach far and wide. It isnt doing so and probably never will. In my opinion this is why Tan doesnt like Malky, has the brand of football he plays ever reached into the global market through any side before? Not to my memory it hasnt.

Tan is staying regardless. He is just threatening you so its a smooth ride. However he isnt going to piss away £100 odd million coz some want him out. Hes here until the club gets attractive on a global scale. Your guess is as good as mine when this will happen. However the honest among you will realise this isnt anything just around the corener.

Any new owner who would be prepared to buy us and turn us back to blue would be an instant cult hero. There are plenty of rich investors who would like their egos enhanced and the good publicity would be priceless.

Tan's end game is obvious.

1. Rebrand to appeal to an Asian market - check
2. Increase the stadium capacity to chip into monthly losses - in progress
3. Convert debt to equity so that the club in terms of finance is seen as an attractive prospect - to be done
4. Float the club in Asia and hope for investment - to be done
5. Use the investment to take the club to the next level where profit margins can be increased further - to be done

How does each stage help?

1. The rebrand to red and yellow are both strong colours in terms of image in Asia. The Chinese flag is enough evidence
2. Increasing the stadium capacity helps chip into monthly losses. A club making money is healthy and more attractive to any potential buyer
3. Converting the debt to equity again removes debt and opens up plenty of financing options such as receiving loans from the bank. If a club is financially in a position whereby it can service loans plus accrued interest then the bank is more willing to lend. This money can be reinvested into the team meaning Tan doesn't have to fund transfers out of pocket.
4. Float the club and hope for a new investor to come on board for an instant cash injection to boost the club further up the table. Finishing higher in the table brings more money in plus makes you a more attractive prospect not only to the likes of Sky but also globally to fans who Tan wants to buy the shirts on the back of success
5. Explained in 3 and 4.

I believe Tan has brought the rebrand in early on purpose. He knows fans here won't take too kindly to it so he's brought it in early when we struggling financially but also when we were desperate to go up as well after years of failure. Not only that but had we got big (top 6-8 team) and then he brings the changes in there would be even more uproar.

By the time we reach those heights, if we do, it could be 10 years down the line and I believe Tan is hoping by the time we are big enough to appeal to the Asian market (which wants success) we'll be too tired to fight and have given up and will have just accepted the changes. At that point there's no negativity on Tan or the club and the new Asian fans that join on the premise of success won't really give a damn about the colours and so on.

Tan created the fire early and had hoped that it would fizzle out by the time marketing the club massively had come along. I believe he was prepared for small time problems and uproar hence his 25% quote and that he knew, further down the road when things in terms of investment and marketing got serious the majority would either just accept things. The problem for Tan is that he keeps pouring petrol on the fire to keep it burning over with things like Scarfgate and the Moody incidents.

Tan is currently his own worst enemy and bringing most damage upon himself. Tan is interfering because he needs the club to stay up to get any sort of return on his investment. The problem is that, unlike his other businesses where he can chop and change for better who'll get results by working long into the night at his demand because they need the salary he's paying, football is a funny game where results aren't guaranteed. Tan needs to learn this. He's nervous as he wants his end game, his profit and a return on what he has put in. Fair enough I suppose from a business perspective but he needs to learn football is not just any business and brings along its own complications.

Tan's lack of understanding of football as a business model is whats causing the most problems. All of his ways and learnings in other types of businesses are not applicable in the footballing business world. Football is not 'provide a service, sell it for more than it costs you in overheads or production and make a profit, repeat and repeat'. Football has plenty more variables out of Tan's control and its got him on edge. Situations he's used to dealing with himself in his other businesses he unfortunately has to rely on Malky to cope with in the footballing world. Tan is no football expert and he's no manager. In another business Tan may know a lot about office management, team leadership so its easy for him to fire and hire a replacement who suits his needs. He has no clue about football and when you venture into the unknown its not so easy.

who the f**k would want to buy us with the fans we got??????

You.

Time to get Mid Glamorgan Decorators on all the boards in the stadium Baz.

f*cking no chance, wait till the grass is too green squad start performing, we have the most miserable fuckers ever following us if we were top of the league playing in blue in ninian park here would still be some sort of movement going on here to moan

How right are you well said bunch of miserable moaning ungrateful bastards