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Re: MALKY DID NOT WANT VELIKONJA

Fri Nov 01, 2013 1:07 am

adr wrote:All the stirring up about tan is not doing the club any favours. The article below has a quote from malky saying that he nearly signed velikonja for watford and had been tracking him for 2 years!! Why would he lie?

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... ay-2027400

If veilikonja had been tracked for 2 years that means that moody had been putting together a thorough portfolio on velikonja and in the end wasted £2m. Sacking any coincidence?





You have a point, fella ;) :ayatollah:

Re: MALKY DID NOT WANT VELIKONJA

Fri Nov 01, 2013 1:17 am

CardiffKid wrote:
Jinks wrote:
JBCCFC1927 wrote:http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/oct/31/cardiff-city-etien-velikonja-malky-mackay?CMP=twt_gu

Another reason to force Tan out.


It says in a newspaper so we all better believe it :roll: Will you believe newspapers when we are linked to everyone in the next transfer window :roll:
If it was official fair enough but to many on here are to quick to believe the bullshit because it suits
..


Don't you feel a bit stupid defending Vincent Tan all the time?


Not defending Tan nor do i like Tan but i only believe official news not newspapers or bullshit.. :thumbright:

Re: MALKY DID NOT WANT VELIKONJA

Fri Nov 01, 2013 1:21 am

JBCCFC1927 wrote:http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/oct/31/cardiff-city-etien-velikonja-malky-mackay?CMP=twt_gu

Another reason to force Tan out.


theguardian.....

The Civil Service propaganda rag? As "newspapers" go, that one is pushing the Daily Sport off bottom spot of complete and utter shite. It's a children's paper, for those upper class fuckwits with more money than brain cells.

guardian my arse.

Re: MALKY DID NOT WANT VELIKONJA

Fri Nov 01, 2013 6:43 am

Sven Ghali wrote:
adr wrote:All the stirring up about tan is not doing the club any favours. The article below has a quote from malky saying that he nearly signed velikonja for watford and had been tracking him for 2 years!! Why would he lie?

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... ay-2027400

If veilikonja had been tracked for 2 years that means that moody had been putting together a thorough portfolio on velikonja and in the end wasted £2m. Sacking any coincidence?





You have a point, fella ;) :ayatollah:

perhaps malky was covering his bosses arse to avoid him embarrasment. probably before he saw him in those trousers though :lol:

Re: MALKY DID NOT WANT VELIKONJA

Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:11 am

steve davies wrote:
Sven Ghali wrote:
adr wrote:All the stirring up about tan is not doing the club any favours. The article below has a quote from malky saying that he nearly signed velikonja for watford and had been tracking him for 2 years!! Why would he lie?

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... ay-2027400

If veilikonja had been tracked for 2 years that means that moody had been putting together a thorough portfolio on velikonja and in the end wasted £2m. Sacking any coincidence?





You have a point, fella ;) :ayatollah:

perhaps malky was covering his bosses arse to avoid him embarrasment. probably before he saw him in those trousers though :lol:



Steve, whoops, some people on here don't like to read or hear the truth.

Re: MALKY DID NOT WANT VELIKONJA

Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:45 am

This thread is bollocks malky and moody were tracking him before at Watford ,funny how the same posters twisting things to suit there anti tan / club agenda ,this board is going down hill rapidly

Re: MALKY DID NOT WANT VELIKONJA

Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:58 am

wez1927 wrote:This thread is bollocks malky and moody were tracking him before at Watford ,funny how the same posters twisting things to suit there anti tan / club agenda ,this board is going down hill rapidly


Yet you were quite happy to assume a post the other day about another head of recruitment, because it suited your own agenda.... :laughing6:

Re: MALKY DID NOT WANT VELIKONJA

Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:05 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
wez1927 wrote:This thread is bollocks malky and moody were tracking him before at Watford ,funny how the same posters twisting things to suit there anti tan / club agenda ,this board is going down hill rapidly


Yet you were quite happy to assume a post the other day about another head of recruitment, because it suited your own agenda.... :laughing6:

Chuckles when he signed malky said in the press conference that he had been ,you really are a arsehole ,stop your trolling

Re: MALKY DID NOT WANT VELIKONJA

Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:09 am

wez1927 wrote:Chuckles when he signed malky said in the press conference that he had been ,you really are a arsehole ,stop your trolling


You're having a go at people for believing this for their "agenda", when you did something yourself only a few days ago - when you believed a message board rumour as fact & used it to have a go at me... There's only one troll here. The person abusing someone else. :laughing6:

Re: MALKY DID NOT WANT VELIKONJA

Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:10 am

JBCCFC1927 wrote:http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/oct/31/cardiff-city-etien-velikonja-malky-mackay?CMP=twt_gu

Another reason to force Tan out.


Of course this is an article from our never tell lies national press, now if this is true then yes i would agree with your comment, but there is no direct comments from people involved with the club and people on here are saying the truth will come out, well from who will the truth come out??? another poster on this forum??? now unless it comes from tan or malky then it is just another story to sell a newspaper.

Re: MALKY DID NOT WANT VELIKONJA

Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:20 am

Sorry JB, there are no quotes no facts just lazy journalism but another trash paper.

Ive seen a few interviews by Malky suggesting that himself and his recruitment team had Etien watched for a while.

Lets get one things sorted, YES we all want BLUE, YES we all would like a change in OWNERSHIP, but everyday is like groundhog day on here sometimes and I really feel instead of banging the same drum, pointing the same fingers and saying the same things, lets just get behind the team until things change, its utter and totally boring.

Oh, and unless you got £140-£200m stashed away, change the record on Tan.

We got Swansea on Sunday, lets just support the bloody team.

Re: MALKY DID NOT WANT VELIKONJA

Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:26 am

caerdydd_78 wrote:Sorry JB, there are no quotes no facts just lazy journalism but another trash paper.

Ive seen a few interviews by Malky suggesting that himself and his recruitment team had Etien watched for a while.

Lets get one things sorted, YES we all want BLUE, YES we all would like a change in OWNERSHIP, but everyday is like groundhog day on here sometimes and I really feel instead of banging the same drum, pointing the same fingers and saying the same things, lets just get behind the team until things change, its utter and totally boring.

Oh, and unless you got £140-£200m stashed away, change the record on Tan.

We got Swansea on Sunday, lets just support the bloody team.


What a load of tripe.

You don't have to have the money to criticise Tan. How ridiculous!

Thought you loved Tan anyway? :?

Re: MALKY DID NOT WANT VELIKONJA

Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:30 am

So f*cking what if it is true,Does anybody on here think Abramovich has nothing to do with some of the signings made by Chelsea?It goes on all the time.Its is shit stirring by the media but thats what they do.Seeing a rift at a club and exploiting it is how they sell papers.Its not exactly a world exclusive is it but people on here who want to see the back of Tan will get a hard-on over this as if this has only ever happened at our club,And Annis,your favourite saying is the truth will come out in the end but why is it were still waiting for the truth about Hamman. :lol:

Re: MALKY DID NOT WANT VELIKONJA

Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:34 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
caerdydd_78 wrote:Sorry JB, there are no quotes no facts just lazy journalism but another trash paper.

Ive seen a few interviews by Malky suggesting that himself and his recruitment team had Etien watched for a while.

Lets get one things sorted, YES we all want BLUE, YES we all would like a change in OWNERSHIP, but everyday is like groundhog day on here sometimes and I really feel instead of banging the same drum, pointing the same fingers and saying the same things, lets just get behind the team until things change, its utter and totally boring.

Oh, and unless you got £140-£200m stashed away, change the record on Tan.

We got Swansea on Sunday, lets just support the bloody team.


What a load of tripe.

You don't have to have the money to criticise Tan. How ridiculous!

Thought you loved Tan anyway? :?


Read it again you numpty, if Tan walked that's the kind of Money if not more than what he will demand, did I once say you need money to criticise Tan? No

Loved Tan?? utter shite, he prevented the club from being liquidated, anyone with a single brain cell knew he was the only option avaiable to the club at the time, also I didnt see thousands of city fans screaming at the gate about the re-brand so don't you dare jump at anyone who agreed with what he did to save this club.

Regardless of what he has done, this club is still here and can be changed in the future because of his money.

So its not LOVE its BUSINESS,

Stupid tw*t.

Re: MALKY DID NOT WANT VELIKONJA

Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:46 am

Just because he was tracking him at Watford, it doesn't necessarily mean he wanted him at Cardiff. After all, Watford were mid table, and we were going for promotion and a higher standard of player. Of course he might have wanted him and has fucked up, I doubt we'll ever know the whole truth on this one

Re: MALKY DID NOT WANT VELIKONJA

Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:49 am

caerdydd_78 wrote:
Read it again you numpty, if Tan walked that's the kind of Money if not more than what he will demand, did I once say you need money to criticise Tan? No

Loved Tan?? utter shite, he prevented the club from being liquidated, anyone with a single brain cell knew he was the only option avaiable to the club at the time, also I didnt see thousands of city fans screaming at the gate about the re-brand so don't you dare jump at anyone who agreed with what he did to save this club.

Regardless of what he has done, this club is still here and can be changed in the future because of his money.

So its not LOVE its BUSINESS,

Stupid tw*t.


Yes you did... You said

caerdydd_78 wrote:
Oh, and unless you got £140-£200m stashed away, change the record on Tan.


I'll do what I want thanks. :thumbup: by the way, any need for the abuse? :lol: stick to annoying Hudson by flirting with his missus. :oops:

Re: MALKY DID NOT WANT VELIKONJA

Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:53 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
caerdydd_78 wrote:
Read it again you numpty, if Tan walked that's the kind of Money if not more than what he will demand, did I once say you need money to criticise Tan? No

Loved Tan?? utter shite, he prevented the club from being liquidated, anyone with a single brain cell knew he was the only option avaiable to the club at the time, also I didnt see thousands of city fans screaming at the gate about the re-brand so don't you dare jump at anyone who agreed with what he did to save this club.

Regardless of what he has done, this club is still here and can be changed in the future because of his money.

So its not LOVE its BUSINESS,

Stupid tw*t.


Read it again.... Where in that quote does it state you cannot jump on Tan?? its boring with you Chucks because you go around in circles spouting crap? where??

What else did we have other than Tan?? come on straight up, what other options were available at the 11th hour when the club was on the brink? lets hear a full and accurate reply other than crap?

The whole forum is watching?? lets have it? no ifs or buts, no possibles, just a straight answer?

Yes you did... You said

caerdydd_78 wrote:
Oh, and unless you got £140-£200m stashed away, change the record on Tan.


I'll do what I want thanks. :thumbup: by the way, any need for the abuse? :lol: stick to annoying Hudson by flirting with his missus. :oops:

Re: MALKY DID NOT WANT VELIKONJA

Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:57 am

I've already quoted it once. :thumbup: you are obviously too busy throwing the toys out of the pram and a using people instead. :roll:

Where did I say there was an alternative at the time? Although I do believe that He said he will seek other means of investment just not from him, so dont think we would have gone bust...

You then said

caerdydd_78 wrote:
Oh, and unless you got £140-£200m stashed away, change the record on Tan.


Which implies that if I haven't got the money, I can't give my poor view on him. :roll:

Re: MALKY DID NOT WANT VELIKONJA

Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:59 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
caerdydd_78 wrote:
Read it again you numpty, if Tan walked that's the kind of Money if not more than what he will demand, did I once say you need money to criticise Tan? No

Loved Tan?? utter shite, he prevented the club from being liquidated, anyone with a single brain cell knew he was the only option avaiable to the club at the time, also I didnt see thousands of city fans screaming at the gate about the re-brand so don't you dare jump at anyone who agreed with what he did to save this club.

Regardless of what he has done, this club is still here and can be changed in the future because of his money.

So its not LOVE its BUSINESS,

Stupid tw*t.


Yes you did... You said

caerdydd_78 wrote:
Oh, and unless you got £140-£200m stashed away, change the record on Tan.


I'll do what I want thanks. :thumbup: by the way, any need for the abuse? :lol: stick to annoying Hudson by flirting with his missus. :oops:


Again ill say, where in that lines does it say that?? as always 1000% assumption and Chuckles, its making you look like a right tool..... a right tool.

Lets have it out, here and now. At the 11th Hour when the club was on the brink of going into liquidation and disappearing, who else was there to pick? who else had the clout to prevent the obvious? who came running???

Come on, no crap, no ifs no possibles, just a honest answer? remember this is not about the rebrand, this is about good hard British pounds changing hands to save this club at the time it was on its knees?

Come on Chuckles the forum is waiting! lets see how intelligent you really are?

Re: MALKY DID NOT WANT VELIKONJA

Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:02 am

caerdydd_78 wrote:
Again ill say, where in that lines does it say that?? as always 1000% assumption and Chuckles, its making you look like a right tool..... a right tool.

Lets have it out, here and now. At the 11th Hour when the club was on the brink of going into liquidation and disappearing, who else was there to pick? who else had the clout to prevent the obvious? who came running???

Come on, no crap, no ifs no possibles, just a honest answer? remember this is not about the rebrand, this is about good hard British pounds changing hands to save this club at the time it was on its knees?

Come on Chuckles the forum is waiting! lets see how intelligent you really are?


Again I'll say... I've already quoted you where it shows and answered you... You're either blind or too dull to understand. :laughing6:

This is about you telling people to "change the record" on Tan, when people can say whatever they want about that head case dictator. Yes he saved the club, that doesn't mean the supporters have to accept every crackpot decision he makes with complete apathy. ALL OPINIONS WELCOME.

:thumbup:

Re: MALKY DID NOT WANT VELIKONJA

Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:07 am

caerdydd_78 wrote:
Loved Tan?? utter shite.

Stupid tw*t.


Funny that... I've just found this quote from you...

caerdydd_78 wrote:

In a non gay way... I actually think I love him.



:lol: :lol:

Re: MALKY DID NOT WANT VELIKONJA

Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:10 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
caerdydd_78 wrote:
Again ill say, where in that lines does it say that?? as always 1000% assumption and Chuckles, its making you look like a right tool..... a right tool.

Lets have it out, here and now. At the 11th Hour when the club was on the brink of going into liquidation and disappearing, who else was there to pick? who else had the clout to prevent the obvious? who came running???

Come on, no crap, no ifs no possibles, just a honest answer? remember this is not about the rebrand, this is about good hard British pounds changing hands to save this club at the time it was on its knees?

Come on Chuckles the forum is waiting! lets see how intelligent you really are?


Again I'll say... I've already quoted you where it shows and answered you... You're either blind or too dull to understand. :laughing6:

This is about you telling people to "change the record" on Tan, when people can say whatever they want about that head case dictator. Yes he saved the club, that doesn't mean the supporters have to accept every crackpot decision he makes with complete apathy. ALL OPINIONS WELCOME.

:thumbup:



Sums you up really, same crap.

All i asked was for a simple answer but as always you spout utter crap.

im sorry Chuckles you are one of the reasons this forum is simply full of keyboard warriors.

I'm also always free if you wish to insult me to my face. :thumbup:

Re: MALKY DID NOT WANT VELIKONJA

Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:13 am

caerdydd_78 wrote:Sums you up really, same crap. All i asked was for a simple answer but as always you spout utter crap.

the very answer which I've given you three times now, you clearly cannot understand it. :lol:

im sorry Chuckles you are one of the reasons this forum is simply full of keyboard warriors.

says the man who dived in calling me a tw*t for disagreeing with him.

I'm also always free if you wish to insult me to my face. :thumbup:

sorry, weren't you the one that started getting abusive by calling me a numpties and a tw*t? Don't be such a hypocrite.

Re: MALKY DID NOT WANT VELIKONJA

Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:15 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
caerdydd_78 wrote:
Again ill say, where in that lines does it say that?? as always 1000% assumption and Chuckles, its making you look like a right tool..... a right tool.

Lets have it out, here and now. At the 11th Hour when the club was on the brink of going into liquidation and disappearing, who else was there to pick? who else had the clout to prevent the obvious? who came running???

Come on, no crap, no ifs no possibles, just a honest answer? remember this is not about the rebrand, this is about good hard British pounds changing hands to save this club at the time it was on its knees?

Come on Chuckles the forum is waiting! lets see how intelligent you really are?


Again I'll say... I've already quoted you where it shows and answered you... You're either blind or too dull to understand. :laughing6:

This is about you telling people to "change the record" on Tan, when people can say whatever they want about that head case dictator. Yes he saved the club, that doesn't mean the supporters have to accept every crackpot decision he makes with complete apathy. ALL OPINIONS WELCOME.

:thumbup:


Aye,right enough Chuckles,and its jolly nice of you to acknowledge that fact because lets face it if he hadn't saved the club what the hell would you be doing right now.Crying into your beer like the rest of us I imagine.Its a pity you don't concentrate less on childish pointscoring and semantics because your clearly not stupid.

Re: MALKY DID NOT WANT VELIKONJA

Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:16 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
caerdydd_78 wrote:Sums you up really, same crap. All i asked was for a simple answer but as always you spout utter crap.

the very answer which I've given you three times now, you clearly cannot understand it. :lol:

im sorry Chuckles you are one of the reasons this forum is simply full of keyboard warriors.

says the man who dived in calling me a tw*t for disagreeing with him.

I'm also always free if you wish to insult me to my face. :thumbup:

sorry, weren't you the one that started getting abusive by calling me a numpties and a tw*t? Don't be such a hypocrite.


You say you've told me several times about the investment in this club? where you tool?

Ill ask for a FORTH time, give me an intelligent reply regarding this club at the time Tan invested, ill ask again no crap please or keep going in bloody circles. A straight answer please.

And if you think calling you a tw*t is remotely insulting or abuse, you need to man up and just answer my questions above.

But i don't think you can, i honestly think you neither have the intelligence or know how to answer the question.

Ill let you prove me wrong.

Re: MALKY DID NOT WANT VELIKONJA

Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:17 am

Sneggyblubird wrote:
Aye,right enough Chuckles,and its jolly nice of you to acknowledge that fact because lets face it if he hadn't saved the club what the hell would you be doing right now.Crying into your beer like the rest of us I imagine.Its a pity you don't concentrate less on childish pointscoring and semantics because your clearly not stupid.


Where have I said that he didn't rescue the club? I've said it many times... What I don't agree with, is that we should just allow him to do whatever he wants with this club, just because he saved it.

The apathy about some of this loon's decisions, it's amazing, quite frankly. For the record, I don't believe this is true. I'd rather believe a Malky press conference with actual quotes, rather than a newspaper article with no quotes & a message board with a clear agenda.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... ay-2027400

Re: MALKY DID NOT WANT VELIKONJA

Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:21 am

caerdydd_78 wrote:
You say you've told me several times about the investment in this club? where you tool?

in a post above.. Aimed at you. :roll:

Ill ask for a FORTH time, give me an intelligent reply regarding this club at the time Tan invested, ill ask again no crap please or keep going in bloody circles. A straight answer please.

I'll answer for a fourth time.. I've already done it. :roll:

And if you think calling you a tw*t is remotely insulting or abuse, you need to man up and just answer my questions above.

youre the one going on about wanting to meet me, you strange man.

But i don't think you can, i honestly think you neither have the intelligence or know how to answer the question.

I've already done it in this thread. I don't think you have the intelligence or know how to actually read it though. :thumbup:

Ill let you prove me wrong.

Re: MALKY DID NOT WANT VELIKONJA

Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:26 am

To help you out, I've posted it again - it seems you need extra help. :thumbup:

Barry Chuckle wrote: I do believe that He said he will seek other means of investment just not from him, so dont think we would have gone bust...


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-sout ... s-18022700

In this article it says this too. Are you really suggesting that a billionaire like a Tan wouldn't have rich friends? :laughing6:

There's no denying that Tan rescued this club... But to claim we would be closed if he didn't is no more accurate than me saying we would be fine otherwise... Even our CEO said it was never red or dead.

Re: MALKY DID NOT WANT VELIKONJA

Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:27 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:
Aye,right enough Chuckles,and its jolly nice of you to acknowledge that fact because lets face it if he hadn't saved the club what the hell would you be doing right now.Crying into your beer like the rest of us I imagine.Its a pity you don't concentrate less on childish pointscoring and semantics because your clearly not stupid.


Where have I said that he didn't rescue the club? I've said it many times... What I don't agree with, is that we should just allow him to do whatever he wants with this club, just because he saved it.

The apathy about some of this loon's decisions, it's amazing, quite frankly.


Barry, you acknowledge he saved the club, you are right you don't have to throw rose petals at his feet, chant his name of wear his merchandise, all im trying to point out is that without him regardless of what he has done since, we wouldn't have a club, there would not have been any other outcome than liquidation. We simply would not have agreed a CVA to maintain even Football League status, we would have simply vanished.

Please understand that simple line.

If you think owners in this modern era in football are simply going to do a Jack Walker and throw countless millions at the club without a return, you are deluded. Football regardless of what anyone says, is a Business. Any investor be it a group of or a simple investor, will want a return on his money.

Look at Chelsea, if Abramovic walks, Chelsea will disappear as they rely heavily on his money. the club will simply not survive. Thankfully along as we can maintain Premier League football and stick to strict financial restraints, we can stay afloat without the need for millions on a monthly basis from an investor.

Re: MALKY DID NOT WANT VELIKONJA

Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:30 am

caerdydd_78 wrote:
Barry, you acknowledge he saved the club, you are right you don't have to throw rose petals at his feet, chant his name of wear his merchandise, all im trying to point out is that without him regardless of what he has done since, we wouldn't have a club, there would not have been any other outcome than liquidation. We simply would not have agreed a CVA to maintain even Football League status, we would have simply vanished.

that's simply a prediction, just as much as mine is. Nobody actually knows, so cut out the facts crap.

Please understand that simple line.

If you think owners in this modern era in football are simply going to do a Jack Walker and throw countless millions at the club without a return, you are deluded. Football regardless of what anyone says, is a Business. Any investor be it a group of or a simple investor, will want a return on his money.

where am I against that? All I'm saying is that this loon has made some stupid decisions - mainly the rebrand.

Look at Chelsea, if Abramovic walks, Chelsea will disappear as they rely heavily on his money. the club will simply not survive. Thankfully along as we can maintain Premier League football and stick to strict financial restraints, we can stay afloat without the need for millions on a monthly basis from an investor.