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Re: Bloody foreign drivers!!!

Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:26 am

Mario Polotelli wrote:Happy to employ them and pay them less than minimum wage though eh :roll:


Lies again Polo

Re: Bloody foreign drivers!!!

Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:33 am

JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Shinobipony wrote:Yeah they should have to sit an assessment test to show competence on our roads.....

But when we travel abroad it's fine, as we are all good drivers...... :lol:



Do you actually consider the amount of foreign drivers are on our roads ?
Or how many British drivers are on continental roads?




Face it every driver ignores the basic rules of the road pretty much 70% of the time...

How many of you check your blind spots before pulling away?
How many of you check your mirrors on a regular basis?
How many of you know what MSM or S L O W mean?


The standard of driving tests are at a far higher standard than Romania or any other country in the former eastern block. Sorry but I thought being in the EU meant that everything should be to the same standard or is was that just spin from Pro-EU supporters


not a lot of difference between a Romanian driving test and a British one so makes your argument null and void

sorry to hear about your accident but lets face it accidents happen regardless of who is behind the wheel

and as for same standard have you tried to pass your test in Sweden?


Even the chairman of the Alliance of British Drivers agrees with me and I would take his word over yours any day of the week!!! http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/368915 ... iving-test

Re: Bloody foreign drivers!!!

Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:35 am

I would like to repeatedly smash into 'Minnie Driver' from behind and then spray her airbags with my windscreen wash.

Re: Bloody foreign drivers!!!

Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:46 am

paulh_85 wrote:
ronnieconradsflatcap wrote: eastern european scumbags




bit harsh....


I agree what an idiot he is

Re: Bloody foreign drivers!!!

Fri Oct 25, 2013 9:29 am

Junta it cannot,and I mean cannot be enforced....

Haulage and Coach drivers are expected to sit a test when they enter the country....

This has f**k all to do with Drivibg standards this is just politics...

If you say you'd rather debate it with the express and not posters on here then why post on here...?

Re: Bloody foreign drivers!!!

Fri Oct 25, 2013 9:36 am

My point being that comments from that link show that there are individuals in far better position to comment than Johnny the nampy pamby liberial.

Re: Bloody foreign drivers!!!

Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:05 am

Military Junta wrote:My point being that comments from that link show that there are individuals in far better position to comment than Johnny the nampy pamby liberial.


And from what link did you get the idea for this story (along with numerous others) Walter?

Re: Bloody foreign drivers!!!

Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:13 am

It's clearly got other agendas and the fact he is trying to Palm it of as just driving issues is rather embarrassing :lol:

Re: Bloody foreign drivers!!!

Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:27 am

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Re: Bloody foreign drivers!!!

Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:29 am

Shinobipony wrote:It's clearly got other agendas and the fact he is trying to Palm it of as just driving issues is rather embarrassing :lol:


Mr Mitty is of trawling the net and local newspapers to see if he can serialise another story into his own life.

A very vivid imagination:thumbup:

Re: Bloody foreign drivers!!!

Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:46 am

Shinobipony wrote:It's clearly got other agendas and the fact he is trying to Palm it of as just driving issues is rather embarrassing :lol:


Seems to be a very real issue according to the article.

The only agenda on here is lefties and nampy pamby liberials trying to deflect from the real issues

Re: Bloody foreign drivers!!!

Fri Oct 25, 2013 11:04 am

Military Junta wrote:
Shinobipony wrote:It's clearly got other agendas and the fact he is trying to Palm it of as just driving issues is rather embarrassing :lol:


Seems to be a very real issue according to the article.

The only agenda on here is lefties and nampy pamby liberials trying to deflect from the real issues



Real issue is the standard of drivers on the road is shocking.

There nationality is irrelevant ...

Re: Bloody foreign drivers!!!

Fri Oct 25, 2013 11:04 am

Military Junta wrote:
Shinobipony wrote:It's clearly got other agendas and the fact he is trying to Palm it of as just driving issues is rather embarrassing :lol:


Seems to be a very real issue according to the article.

The only agenda on here is lefties and nampy pamby liberials trying to deflect from the real issues


I'm seeing comparisons:

Mitty is a meek, mild man with a vivid fantasy life: in a few dozen paragraphs he imagines himself a wartime pilot, an emergency-room surgeon, and a devil-may-care killer. The character's name has come into more general use to refer to an ineffectual dreamer, appearing in several dictionaries.[2] The American Heritage Dictionary defines a Walter Mitty as "an ordinary, often ineffectual person who indulges in fantastic daydreams of personal triumphs".[3] The most famous of Thurber's inept male protagonists, the character is considered "the archetype for dreamy, hapless, Thurber Man".[4]

:thumbup:

Re: Bloody foreign drivers!!!

Fri Oct 25, 2013 6:25 pm

Jinks wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
ronnieconradsflatcap wrote: eastern european scumbags




bit harsh....


I agree what an idiot he is



A bit harsh but im just a concerned motorist who uses the main transport routes on a regular basis & its frightening

Do you ever use roads jinks & ever get these foreign lorry drivers pull out on you then?

Here are some articles

Last Sunday I was travelling home from London on the M25 with my other half, was going past Heathrow airport when a Polish lorry driver decided to plough his vehicle into the side of our car! We were in the middle lane doing about 35mph (there was a long line of slow moving traffic due to an imposed speed restriction of 40mph), we overtook a lorry who was on the inside lane, and as about 3/4 of our car had passed him he decided to pull out into the middle lane,despite there being about 6 car lengths of room in front of him in the inside lane.

Well of course he went straight into the back of our car, scratching it all down the side and denting the back bumper as he dragged us along the motorway! I was in the passenger side so leaned out of the window and indicated for him to follow us to the hard shoulder. I might add that he only decided to do this when I got out of the car as if I was going to run across the carriageway and kick his door in!

At the side of the road he patted the damage to the car and in very broad Polish, "Is small car... I did not see!", to which my reply was "If it had been a guy on a motorbike you would have killed him you ass-hole!"

He only gave me his insurance details when a lovely lady pulled over and said she had seen what happened, he had simply not looked and pulled out into our car! She has kindly said she would be our witness - thank God there are honest people about!

I am so cross, luckily both myself and my other half are OK but the car is FUBAR, it could have been so much worse. Lorry drivers are a liability at the best of times, but the foreign ones drive like maniacs! Only 10 minutes before we had been cut up by a Portuguese lorry driver doing 50mph (in the 40mph zone). If they can't read simple signs (like how fast you should be going) and abide by the Highway Code (Mirror Signal Manoeuvre) they shouldn't be driving in this country!

Furthermore, since the accident we have been told we are unable to claim for the damage to the car. The driver did not report the accident to his insurance company and they have no record of the accident or the lorry. The lady that I spoke to at the call centre said that all we could do was to either contact their insurance company ourselves (which I have done by email already) and wait for a response or to have the repairs done ourselves and keep all receipts and then take the matter out with an independent solicitor.

She said that when people are hit by Polish drivers in this country, more often than not the case is never resolved. If an English man or woman had a RTA abroad the foreign police/authorities can contact the DVLA in Swansea and get all our personal details, but as the driver was Polish and has Polish insurance, due to some stupid EU regulation the British police cannot force the Polish authorities to trace this individual. How is this right?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... f-six.html


http://www.chelmsfordweeklynews.co.uk/n ... ed/?ref=rc


http://www.thisislincolnshire.co.uk/VID ... z2iku3ClVv

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-w ... ns-5162833

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Foreign+t ... 0143376881

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-259340074.html

TRUCKERS breaking the speed limit, flouting rest times and driving unroadworthy vehicles remains a massive concern for A55 drivers.

Just under 60% (309) said they did not think enough was being done to police lorries on the roads, while only 20% thought enforcement was strong enough. Nearly 60% of people also thought there were not enough rest facilities for truckers to take their breaks.

One reader said: “The foreign trucks and vans are in a terrible condition and are not respecting their tachograph rules. Foreign trucks and vans, some of which do not use 56mph limiters as they are not a legal requirement in their country, are going at 80mph.”

Another said: “I have had a number of frightening incidents with HGV vehicles crossing over the white line, pulling out without indicating, speeding and shooting across the Penmaenmawr roundabout without slowing down. Additional policing needs to be in place all along the A55 when the ferries are due to leave or dock in Holyhead.”

In response, Vosa area manager David Collings said: “I welcome the feedback from the Daily Post readers. The work Vosa has done in conjunction with North Wales Police has led to a marked reduction in serious accidents involving HGVs on the A55 in recent years. Two year ago the Commercial Vehicle Unit was launched – a specialist road safety team dedicated to improving standards on roads. In this time the unit has removed many dangerous vehicles and drivers from our roads, preventing countless accidents waiting to happen.

“Vosa has also launched numerous special campaigns to reduce accidents. We have given out special lenses to HGV drivers to prevent incidents of ‘side-swiping’; we launched a campaign to target drivers using magnets to interfere with their tachographs and drive for longer than they should; and we have worked with our counterparts across Europe to educate hauliers from outside of Britain who use the A55.

“Vosa is working tirelessly to improve road safety in North Wales and will continue to target those who break the rules and put other road users in jeopardy.”

Gareth Jones, head of road safety at North Wales Police, said they continued to work with Vosa to tackle HGV drivers and operators who break the rules.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales ... ng-2423116

http://www.eastlondonforum.com/viewtopi ... =14&t=2236

HE full deadly menace of foreign truckers on British roads can be revealed today.

Almost half of overseas drivers stopped in roadside checks over the last month were found to be breaking the law.

Many had failed to take adequate rest breaks and were driving dangerously overloaded vehicles with clocked mileages and forged paperwork.

And more than a third of the lorries had potentially fatal defects ranging from faulty brakes to bald tyres and missing wheel nuts.

However, prosecuting foreign drivers is largely a waste of time, with police powerless to act over unpaid fines.

The scale of the problem was exposed when the Sunday Mirror spent a night with government vehicle inspectors last week.

Out of 45 foreign-registered HGVs stopped, 27 were breaking the law.

They included an overloaded Hungarian truck with disconnected brakes to its trailer, an Irish lorry whose Polish driver had taken only three and a half hours rest in 33 hours on the road and another Irish truck with broken front brake discs.

Official figures show there has been an eight per cent increase in the number of unroadworthy trucks in the past four months, while the number of offences involving tachographs - which log a vehicle's mileage and how long a driver has been on the road - jumped by 12 per cent.

Last night UK haulage operators called for tougher penalties to stop overseas truckers wreaking havoc on our roads - and getting away with it.

They called for British police to be given the power to issue on-the-spot fines like many of their European counterparts.

One lorry boss said: "Some foreign drivers park where they like, speed when they like, drive all the hours they like. We're the only ones playing by the rules."

A record 15,000 foreign lorries now use British roads every day. Lower wages and fuel prices make them cheaper than UK lorries, meaning three-quarters of lorries crossing the Channel are registered abroad. A decade ago, half were British.

In one recent crackdown in Holyhead - the port which links North Wales to Dublin - 80 per cent of lorries, mainly from Ireland, were found to have defects. Ninety-one were taken off the road but only two drivers were fined.

North Wales police chief Richard Brunstrom called the fines, normally pounds 250, "derisory" and said: "Big business needs big penalties."

Aspokesman for the Vehicle Operator Services Agency, which oversees UK licensing and testing, said: "We do have a problem with lorries from Ireland and Eastern Europe."

On-the-spot fines are due to be introduced in next year's Road Safety Bill.

s.hayward@sundaymirror.co.uk

CAPTION(S):

Under pressure... an inspector checks if a lorry is roadworthy' Spot check... safety inspectors' CAUGHT Tyre so bald the metal thread inside shows through the worn rubber' CAUGHT Missing wheel nut (like the one circled) is a road disaster ready to happen' CAUGHT This foreign juggernaut has an entire wheel missing from one of its axles' CAUGHT Speed limiter (keeps truck at 56mph) illegally rewired to allow higher speeds

http://transportoperator.co.uk/2013/03/ ... -anglesey/


Hungarian lorry driver has been jailed for four days and fined £2,500 for "one of the most serious breaches of drivers' hours" North Wales Police has seen.

Roland Banfalvi, 38, drove 4,277km (2,658 miles) in a week, and destroyed tachographs showing he had driven further, Caernarfon magistrates heard.

His 38-tonne lorry had defected tyres when stopped on the A55 in Bangor, Gwynedd.

The lorry has been forfeited to police.

When stopped by officers from the Commercial Vehicle Unit on 13 October, Banfalvi produced documents claiming he taken rest periods, when he had driven throughout Europe without taking the required rest since 15 September.

He was sentenced for not taking the required rest breaks and producing false documents.

After the hearing on Friday, Caernarfon, Sgt Ifan Jones of North Wales Police said: "This is one of the most serious breaches of drivers' hours that the Commercial Vehicle Unit has uncovered.

"It is disappointing that hauliers continue to allow tired drivers with defective vehicles to travel on our roads."


HEY NO PROBLEMS ON THE ROADS OF BRITAIN?

Re: Bloody foreign drivers!!!

Fri Oct 25, 2013 6:39 pm

There's plenty of British muppets on the road too... Yet I don't see you calling them "British scum"...

:roll:

Re: Bloody foreign drivers!!!

Fri Oct 25, 2013 6:44 pm

Xcasual wrote:The worst drivers I see on the road are over 60's :old: I think they should take another driving test when you reach 60




imo it's young women drivers, panic like f**k at the slightest small gap or my bus coming towards them. :o

Re: Bloody foreign drivers!!!

Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:00 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:There's plenty of British muppets on the road too... Yet I don't see you calling them "British scum"...

:roll:


Hey I agree loads of British scum on the roads especially them damn white van man lot.

:D :D :D

Re: Bloody foreign drivers!!!

Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:19 pm

Military Junta wrote:
underthebridge47 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
underthebridge47 wrote:It's a farce that they can come here and just drive with an EU license


I must admit that I shit myself because I knew that there was f**k all I could do about it

All sorted now though?


Yeah had to wait for the police to arrive because of they were changing their story all the time and refused to give me their insurance details but everything is ok apart from my cars front end in bits :(



They weren't refusing, they just couldn't understand you, even though they spoke fluent English. :lol: :lol:

Re: Bloody foreign drivers!!!

Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:22 pm

Military Junta wrote:
underthebridge47 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
underthebridge47 wrote:It's a farce that they can come here and just drive with an EU license


I must admit that I shit myself because I knew that there was f**k all I could do about it

All sorted now though?


Yeah had to wait for the police to arrive because of they were changing their story all the time and refused to give me their insurance details but everything is ok apart from my cars front end in bits :(



They probably haven't got any valid insurance, that was probably why they were trying to change the name of the driver....

Re: Bloody foreign drivers!!!

Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:25 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:There's plenty of British muppets on the road too... Yet I don't see you calling them "British scum"...

:roll:



The number of young girls I see 17 to 25 texting travelling down the M4 is unbelievable, some of them are all over the road.....

Re: Bloody foreign drivers!!!

Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:34 pm

We were in the middle lane doing about 35mph (there was a long line of slow moving traffic due to an imposed speed restriction of 40mph)

I'm aghast, you shouldn't be allowed in a vehicle or near a car. Take this crap to CCMB where the leftie fools will agree and do a ten pager.

f*cking idiot

Re: Bloody foreign drivers!!!

Sat Oct 26, 2013 7:32 am

Walters Theme Of The Day:
'I am convinced that the US has been tapping my phoneline and taking my business as no-one has responded to my advert for 2 hours toilet cleaning work in Magor'.

Re: Bloody foreign drivers!!!

Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:42 am

Military Junta wrote:My point being that comments from that link show that there are individuals in far better position to comment than Johnny the nampy pamby liberial.


love your idiotic attempts to abuse me

so fundamentally what your saying is if we got rid of foreign drivers there would be no accidents on the road (fascinating theory that)

tell you what we could do if your worried is we align ourselves with Europe to make driving easier for all, such as driving on the other side of the road (you know like the rest of Europe)

but no lets not be sensible that just wouldnt be British would it Mr. Brown lets just stick with we are right and superior and they are wrong and inferior