Russell Brand interviewed by J Paxman

so whos job is it then?

i dont know. Certainly not Russell Brand's . The nation has to wake up first and demand a change then we can go from there.

the current system?

does Brand want to take credit for a revolution without putting any work in?

I dont think Russell has claimed he is leading the revolution. He was simply asked why he doesnt vote, he encouraged others however to do the same if they want change. Im pretty sure hes not taking credit for anything.

Politics is all about views if you dont air your views its wasted not voting is wasting your view. If you dont vote and nothing changes dont complain because you havent done anything to either maintain the status quo or change the system.

but his and others views arent being represented so why vote? I love an analogy me... If Malky said in order to solve our wingers gap we are giving you the opportunity to decide who we sign... They are all rubbish though. a 34 year old from Altringham town, a 34 year old from Alfreton and a 34 year old from Airbus UK all as bad as eachother. The vote would be futile if you wanted none.

I dont see a lot wrong with our political system, the way our system is used is wrong. This country has neglected to teach its citizens how the system works apart from a few elite who use it for personal gain.

What this country does need to do is educate its population.

This current generation needs to pick itself up and stop blaming everything on other people take some responsibility and get involved, voting would be a start.

Thats the whole point, there is nobody worthy of a vote. Whats the point?

stand for election

its a lack of effort

whats the point? is the laziest opinion ever, our political system has changed many times through peoples hard work not by moaning and doing nothing

bored of this cant abide lazy people who give up

stand for election

its a lack of effort

whats the point? is the laziest opinion ever, our political system has changed many times through peoples hard work not by moaning and doing nothing

bored of this cant abide lazy people who give up

Thats a complete lack of understanding of the situation.

People who notice a change is needed may not have the ability to change them themselves. People have lives to live and they are living it to the best of their ability, people have businesses to run jobs to go to. Standing for election doesn't pay the bills.

Do you think that those Palace fans saying Holloway needs to go are being lazy and should be writing their CV? Im sure they realise they couldn't do the job any better, but none of them are claiming to be managers. Thats not to say the cant have voice and vocalise what obviously isnt working.

To not be happy with the current set up does not mean they can do better. It means they want a person, or in this case, a overhaul of the system who can carry out what they believe in. As soon as someone with the ability to lead this movement comes up with something then they will vote for them. But at this present time why vote for something you dont believe in?

stand for election

its a lack of effort

whats the point? is the laziest opinion ever, our political system has changed many times through peoples hard work not by moaning and doing nothing

bored of this cant abide lazy people who give up

Thats a complete lack of understanding of the situation.

People who notice a change is needed may not have the ability to change them themselves. People have lives to live and they are living it to the best of their ability, people have businesses to run jobs to go to. Standing for election doesn't pay the bills.

Do you think that those Palace fans saying Holloway needs to go are being lazy and should be writing their CV? Im sure they realise they couldn't do the job any better, but none of them are claiming to be managers. Thats not to say the cant have voice and vocalise what obviously isnt working.

To not be happy with the current set up does not mean they can do better. It means they want a person, or in this case, a overhaul of the system who can carry out what they believe in. As soon as someone with the ability to lead this movement comes up with something then they will vote for them. But at this present time why vote for something you dont believe in?

stop comparing football with politics

Holloway was an employee not elected

if they believed that then they did do something they called for him to be sacked

though thats football not goverment.

I understand the situation rather well, the situation is that nobody really cares enough to enact change, its lazy

If you want to chage vote for the person who you think will bring change, you dont do nothing.

I have no respect and dont listen to people who refuse to vote

Interesting concept coming from you-does that mean that you don't vote in Aust when an election comes?

Interesting concept coming from you-does that mean that you don't vote in Aust when an election comes?

I dont have the right to vote, i dont have citizenship.

stand for election

its a lack of effort

whats the point? is the laziest opinion ever, our political system has changed many times through peoples hard work not by moaning and doing nothing

bored of this cant abide lazy people who give up

Thats a complete lack of understanding of the situation.

People who notice a change is needed may not have the ability to change them themselves. People have lives to live and they are living it to the best of their ability, people have businesses to run jobs to go to. Standing for election doesn't pay the bills.

Do you think that those Palace fans saying Holloway needs to go are being lazy and should be writing their CV? Im sure they realise they couldn't do the job any better, but none of them are claiming to be managers. Thats not to say the cant have voice and vocalise what obviously isnt working.

To not be happy with the current set up does not mean they can do better. It means they want a person, or in this case, a overhaul of the system who can carry out what they believe in. As soon as someone with the ability to lead this movement comes up with something then they will vote for them. But at this present time why vote for something you dont believe in?

stop comparing football with politics

Holloway was an employee not elected
if they believed that then they did do something they called for him to be sacked
though thats football not goverment.
I understand the situation rather well, the situation is that nobody really cares enough to enact change, its lazy
If you want to chage vote for the person who you think will bring change, you dont do nothing.
I have no respect and dont listen to people who refuse to vote

Its the same concept.

You dont need to do the job yourself if you disagree how the country is being run. If you dont see credible leaders in a system you dont agree with in the first place then why vote? But that doesnt mean you have to become that person or create that resolution. Many dont have the ability to.

Russell Brand is a comedian and actor, im sure he will be the first to admit he doesnt have the necessary nouse to run a nation. Yet he is still well within his rights to say its not working, and hes roght in what hes saying. The global situation is dire.

stand for election

its a lack of effort

whats the point? is the laziest opinion ever, our political system has changed many times through peoples hard work not by moaning and doing nothing

bored of this cant abide lazy people who give up

Thats a complete lack of understanding of the situation.

People who notice a change is needed may not have the ability to change them themselves. People have lives to live and they are living it to the best of their ability, people have businesses to run jobs to go to. Standing for election doesn't pay the bills.

Do you think that those Palace fans saying Holloway needs to go are being lazy and should be writing their CV? Im sure they realise they couldn't do the job any better, but none of them are claiming to be managers. Thats not to say the cant have voice and vocalise what obviously isnt working.

To not be happy with the current set up does not mean they can do better. It means they want a person, or in this case, a overhaul of the system who can carry out what they believe in. As soon as someone with the ability to lead this movement comes up with something then they will vote for them. But at this present time why vote for something you dont believe in?

stop comparing football with politics

Holloway was an employee not elected
if they believed that then they did do something they called for him to be sacked
though thats football not goverment.
I understand the situation rather well, the situation is that nobody really cares enough to enact change, its lazy
If you want to chage vote for the person who you think will bring change, you dont do nothing.
I have no respect and dont listen to people who refuse to vote

Its the same concept.

You dont need to do the job yourself if you disagree how the country is being run. If you dont see credible leaders in a system you dont agree with in the first place then why vote? But that doesnt mean you have to become that person or create that resolution. Many dont have the ability to.

Russell Brand is a comedian and actor, im sure he will be the first to admit he doesnt have the necessary nouse to run a nation. Yet he is still well within his rights to say its not working, and hes roght in what hes saying. The global situation is dire.

WHAT?

you make no sense

it maybe similar concepts but on completely different spectrums

what qualifications do you need to be a politician? none as far as I am aware

in the job? we are the job politicians are our voice so we are linked unlike any other system

like ive said before this country doesnt teach how our political system works and how you can use it to benefit you, a point you continually ignore

It makes perfect sense.

I havent alluded to qualifications. Are you suggesting we could pluck your average 17 year old out of the dole office and stick him in charge of running the country and he/she would be fine?

Goal line technology has been a bug bear for many a fan. Does that mean they should ditch their lives and career paths and apply for FIFA president or they shouldnt criticise and are lazy? This applies to anything. You don't have to drop everything and become Education Minister if you disagreeing with the way school children are taught,

Its a very simplistic view of a complex situation.

It makes perfect sense.

I havent alluded to qualifications. Are you suggesting we could pluck your average 17 year old out of the dole office and stick him in charge of running the country and he/she would be fine?

Goal line technology has been a bug bear for many a fan. Does that mean they should ditch their lives and career paths and apply for FIFA president or they shouldnt criticise and are lazy? This applies to anything. You don't have to drop everything and become Education Minister if you disagreeing with the way school children are taught,

Its a very simplistic view of a complex situation.

if he can get enough votes then he/she gets elected

It makes perfect sense.

I havent alluded to qualifications. Are you suggesting we could pluck your average 17 year old out of the dole office and stick him in charge of running the country and he/she would be fine?

Goal line technology has been a bug bear for many a fan. Does that mean they should ditch their lives and career paths and apply for FIFA president or they shouldnt criticise and are lazy? This applies to anything. You don't have to drop everything and become Education Minister if you disagreeing with the way school children are taught,

Its a very simplistic view of a complex situation.

if he can get enough votes then he/she gets elected

Of course. But we could vote a pig in charge of the country, it doesn't mean it possesses the ability to successfully run the country for the people.

So if Brand theoretically sees these "leaders" as your proverbial pig then why vote? He has no faith in them or the system they would be voted into.

It makes perfect sense.

I havent alluded to qualifications. Are you suggesting we could pluck your average 17 year old out of the dole office and stick him in charge of running the country and he/she would be fine?

Goal line technology has been a bug bear for many a fan. Does that mean they should ditch their lives and career paths and apply for FIFA president or they shouldnt criticise and are lazy? This applies to anything. You don't have to drop everything and become Education Minister if you disagreeing with the way school children are taught,

Its a very simplistic view of a complex situation.

if he can get enough votes then he/she gets elected

Of course. But we could vote a pig in charge of the country, it doesn't mean it possesses the ability to successfully run the country for the people.

So if Brand theoretically sees these "leaders" as your proverbial pig then why vote? He has no faith in them or the system they would be voted into.

thats what the civil service is for

Well hopefully you now see where he, I and others are coming from.

Whether you agree or not is up to you.

Well hopefully you now see where he, I and others are coming from.

Whether you agree or not is up to you.

what?

I dont agree with you thought that would be obvious

Ive always seen where you come from funnily enough though just because you think it doesnt make everyone suddenly agree with you

Well hopefully you now see where he, I and others are coming from.

Whether you agree or not is up to you.

what?

I dont agree with you thought that would be obvious

Ive always seen where you come from funnily enough though just because you think it doesnt make everyone suddenly agree with you

That makes no sense to what I just typed.

I told you it was up to you whether you agree or not. How can you take that as me wanting you to suddenly agree with me?

You didnt see where we were coming from thats been clear from your replies and lack of understanding why people like Russell shouldnt necessarily change career paths.

Well hopefully you now see where he, I and others are coming from.

Whether you agree or not is up to you.

what?

I dont agree with you thought that would be obvious

Ive always seen where you come from funnily enough though just because you think it doesnt make everyone suddenly agree with you

That makes no sense to what I just typed.

I told you it was up to you whether you agree or not. How can you take that as me wanting you to suddenly agree with me?

You didnt see where we were coming from thats been clear from your replies and lack of understanding why people like Russell shouldnt necessarily change career paths.

boring

bye

wtf

:lol: wtf

I see no point in continuing we will never agree and just go round in circles

my points are valid as much as yours are, such is the joys of politics

I see no point going round and round and round

:lol: wtf

I see no point in continuing we will never agree and just go round in circles

my points are valid as much as yours are, such is the joys of politics

I see no point going round and round and round

Nobody is asking you to agree.

However you made certain presumptions regarding someone holding the opposing opinion to you which I told you were not the case for obvious reasons.

You are well within your rights to stop debating it, however the way you went about it was straight from the textbook of a 7 year old and completely not in line with the thread up to this point. Bizarre

:lol: wtf

I see no point in continuing we will never agree and just go round in circles

my points are valid as much as yours are, such is the joys of politics

I see no point going round and round and round

Nobody is asking you to agree.

However you made certain presumptions regarding someone holding the opposing opinion to you which I told you were not the case for obvious reasons.

You are well within your rights to stop debating it, however the way you went about it was straight from the textbook of a 7 year old and completely not in line with the thread up to this point. Bizarre

maybe I got bored of being intelligent sorry if that confused you

:lol: wtf

I see no point in continuing we will never agree and just go round in circles

my points are valid as much as yours are, such is the joys of politics

I see no point going round and round and round

Nobody is asking you to agree.

However you made certain presumptions regarding someone holding the opposing opinion to you which I told you were not the case for obvious reasons.

You are well within your rights to stop debating it, however the way you went about it was straight from the textbook of a 7 year old and completely not in line with the thread up to this point. Bizarre

maybe I got bored of being intelligent sorry if that confused you

Back to the 7 year old then?

:lol: wtf

I see no point in continuing we will never agree and just go round in circles

my points are valid as much as yours are, such is the joys of politics

I see no point going round and round and round

Nobody is asking you to agree.

However you made certain presumptions regarding someone holding the opposing opinion to you which I told you were not the case for obvious reasons.

You are well within your rights to stop debating it, however the way you went about it was straight from the textbook of a 7 year old and completely not in line with the thread up to this point. Bizarre

maybe I got bored of being intelligent sorry if that confused you

Back to the 7 year old then?

well why not I find you dont have to think as much lol

Roathie, you've made him look absolutely daft here.

Now on to the real issue at hand.

Brand is pretty much right although I'd say not one the hope/change bit even if he does come across as a bit of a tool at times and his constant desire to drag things off topic just undermine his argument to a point where some won't take him seriously. Of course he says facetious can be funny but if he truly believes that then he should just put it across in a manner thats worthy of such a belief.

I could have voted at the last election but didn't as there's no party that represents me or my beliefs in the UK. Whilst Russell Brand may think his beliefs give him credence for not voting I feel the same way although we may funnily enough have entirely different beliefs on the spectrum given how narrow the current options of political parties are.

I think the current main parties are all one and the same and only out, as Brand said, for themselves and the corporations who serve them and they serve. Its the you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours mentality whilst the vast majority are living part of the rat race in the real world. Some make it up the ladder alluding to this dream, a facade, that it can be done but the simple fact is this is for a minority who notice the way the system works early, those who have people with a foot firmly in the upper class bracket and can be assisted on the climb of the ladder. This is not the case for the majority.

Not voting is the biggest fight you have left within you other than starting your own party and campaigning for change. Tell me how that has worked out for others who have had their views suppressed by a biased media influenced by political agenda. Answer me that. That itself, seeing those try and fail, kills of competition. People start to lose belief they can work their way up and create change. People start to lose belief that they can take on these big political groups who are actually brands and propaganda machines preying on the policies of yesteryear and the small few. Its no different from the local store fearing the big supermarkets and as we've seen there, they get phased out.

The notion they are elected and its different from any business is absurd. They are employees as they get paid by the taxpayer. If you put up a lion, a zebra and a donkey up for election and one of them got enough votes to rule does that mean its a good idea or they are fit to rule or does it alert you to a bigger problem whereby the options available are all not suitable for the task at hand?

Labour, The Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats are the same meal all served on differently branded plates. I for one refuse to be forced to sit at the table and eat with no choice. They continue to spread this notion of a democracy but a democracy isn't a democracy when the close knit groups all work together to make sure outsiders trying to have a voice are damaged goods by the time they get anywhere near that level.

I would refer you to UKIP of whom have brought a lot of damage upon themselves but I'd also like to make it clear how the media has blown a lot of it out of proportion, the other parties have repeatedly stated they should have no part in any televised debates and how Farage is constantly made to look the buffoon with his true views misinterpreted purposely by an agenda led propaganda machine.

Farage has battled but he is fighting a losing battle for the people of this nation have been brainwashed and condition in a manner that Hitler himself would have been proud of. People see a status symbol and they immediately think of something. Starbucks, premium high quality coffee. Cardiff City, the club that sold its soul for success. Ralph Lauren, smart and expensive designer wear. Prejudice is everything. A lot of people vote through blind loyalty and faith before they even get their slip or get to the polls. Its their affinity and its done on an emotional basis that they've been conditioned into, not a logical thought out decision made on the manifesto or interpreted facts on offer.

Identifiers are quick and easy and politics being the marketing game it is of brands is no different. Labour have for years played the Robin Hood card trying to cater for those at the bottom and the working class to prop up their votes. Now they are trying to rebrand as the Labour of the old when in fact its just a facade to prop up their damaged image from the last regime. The Conservatives have taken the alternative route appeasing to those in the corporations to get their votes and continuously berating Labour but its all circular and part of the circus act. Someone might take the lead role but they are still a part of the same film and being paid for their roles quite tidily. The next film comes out (re-election) and someone else might take the lead but they are still all there getting paid. A few might have retired and others promoted to more senior parts in the laughable movie called Politics.

Many vote for Labour not on what they offer today but because of hatred of Thatcher and their deep rooted views of the Conservatives/Tories that stems from it. There are Conservative haters who didn't even live during her tenure but still hate her and the Tories because they've been brainwashed by an agenda led press that likes to twist the truth to sell a good story. I've asked people my age why they dislike Thatcher and some have told me because their parents disliked her. This is the sort of sheepish feckless country we live in where people have no thought of their own so just go with the general consensus and its that lazy attitude the politicians prey on every election to continually blindly vote them in.

Change won't happen because the current system doesn't allow change. The current system is not a democracy, its a facade. A group of parties that refuse to let fringe parties gain a foothold and try to kick them about until the media help them on their merry way. The puppets of society then, easily influenced by the media, jump on the bandwagon and spread the nonsense via whatever communication medium they can find be it word of mouth, Twitter, blogging or elsewhere. These puppets do all the work for the politicians through their blind loyalty or preset agenda.

Nothing will change until people start seeing things for what they are and stop letting the media and outside influence continuously influence them be it externally or subconsciously. Whilst there are people who vote on the back of loyalty or affinity their will always be a political party ready to take advantage of them.

Its all political conditioning and brainwashing. Its not much different to Nike with Just Do It trying to sell you their stuff. The difference is the political parties are selling you an ideology, a belief system.

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Exile didn't last long then,as for the content of your last post-pure plagurised garbage.Not an original thought in it.Try writing something you've made up yourself.

Exile didn't last long then,as for the content of your last post-pure plagurised garbage.Not an original thought in it.Try writing something you've made up yourself.

I've been on another forum I use now. I only popped on to have a browse. I have not posted since last Friday and only commented on this as its part of a similar debate Im in on another forum.

As for plagiarised garbage. Again, thats wrong. This is my opinion and I'll stand by it. I won't vote because I strongly believe they are all one and the same. Then again, I'm not going to take the opinion of someone who can't even spell plagiarised correctly seriously anyway am I? Work it out yourself.

Enjoy your response and consider yourself honoured that I even took the time to address you. Back to exile I go.

He is simply expressing the same frustration that every generation has done before him and will after him.
For society to work someone has to make decisions and that someone gets a bit close to the money and when money is involved people get crazy and want it.

Exile didn't last long then,as for the content of your last post-pure plagurised garbage.Not an original thought in it.Try writing something you've made up yourself.

I've been on another forum I use now. I only popped on to have a browse. I have not posted since last Friday and only commented on this as its part of a similar debate Im in on another forum.

As for plagiarised garbage. Again, thats wrong. This is my opinion and I'll stand by it. I won't vote because I strongly believe they are all one and the same. Then again, I'm not going to take the opinion of someone who can't even spell plagiarised correctly seriously anyway am I? Work it out yourself.

Enjoy your response and consider yourself honoured that I even took the time to address you. Back to exile I go.

You immature little prick.When people stoop to correcting spelling mistakes on an internet forum you know you've got them.At least my work is my own.Back to exile eh? bullshitter, you'll be back.Looking forward to your next incarnation.

Roathie, you've made him look absolutely daft here.

Now on to the real issue at hand.

Brand is pretty much right although I'd say not one the hope/change bit even if he does come across as a bit of a tool at times and his constant desire to drag things off topic just undermine his argument to a point where some won't take him seriously. Of course he says facetious can be funny but if he truly believes that then he should just put it across in a manner thats worthy of such a belief.

I could have voted at the last election but didn't as there's no party that represents me or my beliefs in the UK. Whilst Russell Brand may think his beliefs give him credence for not voting I feel the same way although we may funnily enough have entirely different beliefs on the spectrum given how narrow the current options of political parties are.

I think the current main parties are all one and the same and only out, as Brand said, for themselves and the corporations who serve them and they serve. Its the you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours mentality whilst the vast majority are living part of the rat race in the real world. Some make it up the ladder alluding to this dream, a facade, that it can be done but the simple fact is this is for a minority who notice the way the system works early, those who have people with a foot firmly in the upper class bracket and can be assisted on the climb of the ladder. This is not the case for the majority.

Not voting is the biggest fight you have left within you other than starting your own party and campaigning for change. Tell me how that has worked out for others who have had their views suppressed by a biased media influenced by political agenda. Answer me that. That itself, seeing those try and fail, kills of competition. People start to lose belief they can work their way up and create change. People start to lose belief that they can take on these big political groups who are actually brands and propaganda machines preying on the policies of yesteryear and the small few. Its no different from the local store fearing the big supermarkets and as we've seen there, they get phased out.

The notion they are elected and its different from any business is absurd. They are employees as they get paid by the taxpayer. If you put up a lion, a zebra and a donkey up for election and one of them got enough votes to rule does that mean its a good idea or they are fit to rule or does it alert you to a bigger problem whereby the options available are all not suitable for the task at hand?

Labour, The Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats are the same meal all served on differently branded plates. I for one refuse to be forced to sit at the table and eat with no choice. They continue to spread this notion of a democracy but a democracy isn't a democracy when the close knit groups all work together to make sure outsiders trying to have a voice are damaged goods by the time they get anywhere near that level.

I would refer you to UKIP of whom have brought a lot of damage upon themselves but I'd also like to make it clear how the media has blown a lot of it out of proportion, the other parties have repeatedly stated they should have no part in any televised debates and how Farage is constantly made to look the buffoon with his true views misinterpreted purposely by an agenda led propaganda machine.

Farage has battled but he is fighting a losing battle for the people of this nation have been brainwashed and condition in a manner that Hitler himself would have been proud of. People see a status symbol and they immediately think of something. Starbucks, premium high quality coffee. Cardiff City, the club that sold its soul for success. Ralph Lauren, smart and expensive designer wear. Prejudice is everything. A lot of people vote through blind loyalty and faith before they even get their slip or get to the polls. Its their affinity and its done on an emotional basis that they've been conditioned into, not a logical thought out decision made on the manifesto or interpreted facts on offer.

Identifiers are quick and easy and politics being the marketing game it is of brands is no different. Labour have for years played the Robin Hood card trying to cater for those at the bottom and the working class to prop up their votes. Now they are trying to rebrand as the Labour of the old when in fact its just a facade to prop up their damaged image from the last regime. The Conservatives have taken the alternative route appeasing to those in the corporations to get their votes and continuously berating Labour but its all circular and part of the circus act. Someone might take the lead role but they are still a part of the same film and being paid for their roles quite tidily. The next film comes out (re-election) and someone else might take the lead but they are still all there getting paid. A few might have retired and others promoted to more senior parts in the laughable movie called Politics.

Many vote for Labour not on what they offer today but because of hatred of Thatcher and their deep rooted views of the Conservatives/Tories that stems from it. There are Conservative haters who didn't even live during her tenure but still hate her and the Tories because they've been brainwashed by an agenda led press that likes to twist the truth to sell a good story. I've asked people my age why they dislike Thatcher and some have told me because their parents disliked her. This is the sort of sheepish feckless country we live in where people have no thought of their own so just go with the general consensus and its that lazy attitude the politicians prey on every election to continually blindly vote them in.

Change won't happen because the current system doesn't allow change. The current system is not a democracy, its a facade. A group of parties that refuse to let fringe parties gain a foothold and try to kick them about until the media help them on their merry way. The puppets of society then, easily influenced by the media, jump on the bandwagon and spread the nonsense via whatever communication medium they can find be it word of mouth, Twitter, blogging or elsewhere. These puppets do all the work for the politicians through their blind loyalty or preset agenda.

Nothing will change until people start seeing things for what they are and stop letting the media and outside influence continuously influence them be it externally or subconsciously. Whilst there are people who vote on the back of loyalty or affinity their will always be a political party ready to take advantage of them.

Its all political conditioning and brainwashing. Its not much different to Nike with Just Do It trying to sell you their stuff. The difference is the political parties are selling you an ideology, a belief system.

look like a fool?

pretty sure what youve just said is along the same lines as what I said, except I didnt feel the need to write a short essay the only difference between you and me is I do believe people can change things and I dont believe not voting is a credible option. I chose not to continue the debate with Roathie because I could see how it was going to go and couldnt be bothered listening to him repeat himself and me repeating myself for page after page.

In my opinion what this country needs to do is teach politics to everybody and not leave it a small elite, which has whats happened (which will end the us v them situation we have now)

on to making me look like a fool, I wasnt aware this was a competition.

so whos job is it then?

i dont know. Certainly not Russell Brand's . The nation has to wake up first and demand a change then we can go from there.

the current system?

does Brand want to take credit for a revolution without putting any work in?

I dont think Russell has claimed he is leading the revolution. He was simply asked why he doesnt vote, he encouraged others however to do the same if they want change. Im pretty sure hes not taking credit for anything.

Politics is all about views if you dont air your views its wasted not voting is wasting your view. If you dont vote and nothing changes dont complain because you havent done anything to either maintain the status quo or change the system.

but his and others views arent being represented so why vote? I love an analogy me... If Malky said in order to solve our wingers gap we are giving you the opportunity to decide who we sign... They are all rubbish though. a 34 year old from Altringham town, a 34 year old from Alfreton and a 34 year old from Airbus UK all as bad as eachother. The vote would be futile if you wanted none.

Your analogies are getting more and more creative (fair play) but some are still not getting them or deliberately twisting them

Always the case Moonie.

I love an analogy

Amongst his obssesive use of some the best vocab that the English dictionary has to offer, he is on point! He makes you realise that that you feel & think the same but he articulates himself 1000 times better....thats kinda what inspirational people do i suppose. Maybe olde Brand has found his true calling. lol.