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Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:16 am

Forever Blue wrote:' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?


The Media have turned against him, even some of the Malaysian media have.

Every tabloid I read on Sunday and yesterday had sarcastic digs at him in most of the Chelsea/Cardiff write ups.
The week leading up to the match, many said he had made us a laughing stock.

Fans in my opinion, have lost respect for him. I'm talking about fans that are not my friends, local shop keepers,to bank staff to fans I bump in to in the streets of Cardiff.

At Chelsea many fans said they had no time for him anymore.

FB, some fans have turned evil against him.

Maybe I am wrong and there is still big support for him?
One thing Tan does not like is the media against him and he likes to be worshipped.

Whats your honest opinion of Vincent Tan nowadays ?

Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

No Sarcasm to each other please or name calling, a proper debate/opinions please :thumbup:


Apart from the rebrand he's been great for Cardiff City.. I hope he stays for many years or sells to a group of decent investors.. Many fans have short memories..

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:17 am

JONNY012697 wrote:
why did Tan sack him?

when you can answer that then you can say Tan 100% undermined Malky


The fact that he was paid off, rather than dismissed says it all.

If he was sacked for misconduct, there would be no pay off.

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:24 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
why did Tan sack him?

when you can answer that then you can say Tan 100% undermined Malky


The fact that he was paid off, rather than dismissed says it all.

If he was sacked for misconduct, there would be no pay off.


shows how little knowledge of high end business you have

contracts get paid off because its cheaper than launching investigations and it saves all the employment laws

you fail to state that Moody left as well, why didnt he fight for his job?

this is all very boring really

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:25 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
why did Tan sack him?

when you can answer that then you can say Tan 100% undermined Malky


The fact that he was paid off, rather than dismissed says it all.

If he was sacked for misconduct, there would be no pay off.


I see where your coming from but again its a pointless argument as nobody knows what's really happened..
Moody could have fought for his job Tan could have sacked him. Both looks like both have agreed to part amicably.
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Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:27 am

JONNY012697 wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
np20 wrote:Nobody knows what this kazak does. Let's forget him. The guy got a title, he doesn't do the job I'd bet. And malky has the last say so what does it matter. We have a team of scouts, its not like we lost them all,


No, let's not just "forget" him.

Tan undermined MM by ditching his right hand man & replaced with "this Kazakh". I can't believe that some fans are still willing to ignore Tan's actions because he lent some money to the club.


why did Tan sack him?

when you can answer that then you can say Tan 100% undermined Malky


An excellent point.None of us know yet and it maybe that chuckles is right but until we know for sure what went on its pointless to use that to illustrate a point.And Chuckles,you talk about Tan lending us money as if thats some insight that no-one else has.The fact is that at the moment like it or not TAN is the club or very nearly will be when he's bought everyone out.

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:29 am

JONNY012697 wrote:
shows how little knowledge of high end business you have

contracts get paid off because its cheaper than launching investigations and it saves all the employment laws

you fail to state that Moody left as well, why didnt he fight for his job?

this is all very boring really


Still doesn't answer my point though, why was someone as inexperienced selected as his replacement... Surely not because he's mates with Tan's son?! :laughing6:

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:30 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
shows how little knowledge of high end business you have

contracts get paid off because its cheaper than launching investigations and it saves all the employment laws

you fail to state that Moody left as well, why didnt he fight for his job?

this is all very boring really


Still doesn't answer my point though, why was someone as inexperienced selected as his replacement... Surely not because he's mates with Tan's son?! :laughing6:


Was this guy even mentioned in the meeting or club statement after it?

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:31 am

Jinks wrote:Was this guy even mentioned in the meeting or club statement after it?


No, which is why fans have been angered... but he was brought up in Malky's press conference - so he must exist. :lol:

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:38 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
shows how little knowledge of high end business you have

contracts get paid off because its cheaper than launching investigations and it saves all the employment laws

you fail to state that Moody left as well, why didnt he fight for his job?

this is all very boring really


Still doesn't answer my point though, why was someone as inexperienced selected as his replacement... Surely not because he's mates with Tan's son?! :laughing6:


is he still there?

he wasnt mentioned in the directors meeting as far as I am aware

my feeling is this, Tan got rid of Moody for reasons we are not too sure, regardless it left a void where a head of recruitment that needed filling. Rightly or wrongly instead of recruiting a brand new head of recruitment and leave a void Tan put 'the painter' in on a temporary basis (your acting like it was permanent). Now reading between the lines of the directors meeting I dont think we have a head of recruitment anymore, so recruiting a new one would have been a waste of time and if 'the painter' is capable of picking up a telephone and running messages to Malky why not employ him.

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:42 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Jinks wrote:Was this guy even mentioned in the meeting or club statement after it?


No, which is why fans have been angered... but he was brought up in Malky's press conference - so he must exist. :lol:


If cardiff city are a premiership side for years to come nobody will give two fecks about moody leaving..
If however it goes tits up and they are not in the premiership because of the moody/painter/Tans sons mate you keep going on about then you will have a point. :thumbright:
I wont reply on this thread again or you will drag it to a few threads of boring shit as usual :thumbright:

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:45 am

It's like Tan is the Devil and Malky is the Angel trying to save us

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:46 am

JONNY012697 wrote:is he still there?

he wasnt mentioned in the directors meeting as far as I am aware.


As you like to do this to others...

Were you at the meeting? :roll:

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:46 am

Where does Vincent Tan go from here? Home hopefully but I doubt very much that there is a magic wand.

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:47 am

Jinks wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
Jinks wrote:Was this guy even mentioned in the meeting or club statement after it?


No, which is why fans have been angered... but he was brought up in Malky's press conference - so he must exist. :lol:


If cardiff city are a premiership side for years to come nobody will give two fecks about moody leaving..
If however it goes tits up and they are not in the premiership because of the moody/painter/Tans sons mate you keep going on about then you will have a point. :thumbright:
I wont reply on this thread again or you will drag it to a few threads of boring shit as usual :thumbright:


Again, it's not about moody leaving, it's about Tan's ideas of who is suitable as a replacement. :thumbright:

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:49 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:is he still there?

he wasnt mentioned in the directors meeting as far as I am aware.


As you like to do this to others...

Were you at the meeting? :roll:


oh dear I dont think ive ever said that

right im off not going down this route with you

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:50 am

JONNY012697 wrote:oh dear I dont think ive ever said that

right im off not going down this route with you


You often say things like that.. You did it in this thread regarding Moody. :lol:

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:54 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:oh dear I dont think ive ever said that

right im off not going down this route with you


You often say things like that.. You did it in this thread regarding Moody. :lol:


did I where? I asked you why Moody was sacked

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:55 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Jinks wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
Jinks wrote:Was this guy even mentioned in the meeting or club statement after it?


No, which is why fans have been angered... but he was brought up in Malky's press conference - so he must exist. :lol:


If cardiff city are a premiership side for years to come nobody will give two fecks about moody leaving..
If however it goes tits up and they are not in the premiership because of the moody/painter/Tans sons mate you keep going on about then you will have a point. :thumbright:
I wont reply on this thread again or you will drag it to a few threads of boring shit as usual :thumbright:


Again, it's not about moody leaving, it's about Tan's ideas of who is suitable as a replacement. :thumbright:


If cardiff city are still a premiership side in years to come nobody will give a f**k moody left or who he's replaced by..
If however it goes tits up and they are not in the premiership because of the moody/painter/Tans sons mate you keep going on about then you will have a point.
Until then bringing up moodys replacement all the time is getting f*cking boring.. I think you do it just to be an argumentative c**t..
You got an extra post out of me that's it now no more..
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Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:55 am

Thought you were going?

So you weren't at the meeting & therefore cannot post with complete fact about it then?

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:59 am

wez1927 wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Change the record chuckles ,a painter lol that's what he done in uni did he ? He probably a lot brighter than me ,you or most of us on this message board


So I'm not allowed to post my thoughts on that? Why not? :?

I don't know what he got a degree in, but it's widely reported that he was painting the corridors of the CCS.

He may well be brighter than many (though that's just a guess from you) but intelligence doesn't mean he would be any good at a football club.

I'd much rather someone with excellent football experiences and references (Moody) than someone who has a first from Oxford, as an example.

:thumbup:

Your allowed your opinion but he isn't a painter is he ? So are you a painter cause you might have painted your kitchen in your house or a mechanical engineer cause you fixed a car or something ?



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Perhaps we should all refer to Chucks as a wanker, in my opinion he must have had at least one/ :lol: :lol:

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:00 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
np20 wrote:Nobody knows what this kazak does. Let's forget him. The guy got a title, he doesn't do the job I'd bet. And malky has the last say so what does it matter. We have a team of scouts, its not like we lost them all,


No, let's not just "forget" him.

Tan undermined MM by ditching his right hand man & replaced with "this Kazakh". I can't believe that some fans are still willing to ignore Tan's actions because he lent some money to the club.


Thats quite a statement. How do you know how i feel about tan, can you see into my mind?

Tan saved this club, nobody wanted us when we were in high courts, after looking down the sofa to find some cash to scrape together. nobody wanted us, or well nobody made it apparent they wanted us. tan was the offer and we needed him.

Now since we only know whats happened through sky sports and newspapers, nobody who knows anything has said anything. if you want to believe the papers, well good on you, we all know they love a story, and well if you believe sky im sure you believe them when they say that each game they show has been the greatest game ever seen.

Nobody knows anything, apart from Moody has gone

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:07 am

np20 wrote:Thats quite a statement. How do you know how i feel about tan, can you see into my mind?

Tan saved this club, nobody wanted us when we were in high courts, after looking down the sofa to find some cash to scrape together. nobody wanted us, or well nobody made it apparent they wanted us. tan was the offer and we needed him.

Now since we only know whats happened through sky sports and newspapers, nobody who knows anything has said anything. if you want to believe the papers, well good on you, we all know they love a story, and well if you believe sky im sure you believe them when they say that each game they show has been the greatest game ever seen.

Nobody knows anything, apart from Moody has gone


Where did I say I was talking about you? Unless your name is "some fans"? :?

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:10 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Your allowed your opinion but he isn't a painter is he ? So are you a painter cause you might have painted your kitchen in your house or a mechanical engineer cause you fixed a car or something ?


Well don't tell me to change the record then. :roll:

No, because I did that for myself. If I was doing it for someone else and getting something in return, I would be.

Still, doesn't cover your point that he's intelligent. Stephen Hawkin is one of the most intelligent men in the world, does that mean he would be better than Iain Moody?

:lol:

:roll: you keep say that hes a painter in every thread which you write about the moody situation which he is not is he ? just answer me this ????????????? are you lying to suit your own anti club/tan agenda ? ;)

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:12 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
np20 wrote:Thats quite a statement. How do you know how i feel about tan, can you see into my mind?

Tan saved this club, nobody wanted us when we were in high courts, after looking down the sofa to find some cash to scrape together. nobody wanted us, or well nobody made it apparent they wanted us. tan was the offer and we needed him.

Now since we only know whats happened through sky sports and newspapers, nobody who knows anything has said anything. if you want to believe the papers, well good on you, we all know they love a story, and well if you believe sky im sure you believe them when they say that each game they show has been the greatest game ever seen.

Nobody knows anything, apart from Moody has gone


Where did I say I was talking about you? Unless your name is "some fans"? :?

it doesnt suit his anti club / tan agenda :thumbup:

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:12 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
np20 wrote:Thats quite a statement. How do you know how i feel about tan, can you see into my mind?

Tan saved this club, nobody wanted us when we were in high courts, after looking down the sofa to find some cash to scrape together. nobody wanted us, or well nobody made it apparent they wanted us. tan was the offer and we needed him.

Now since we only know whats happened through sky sports and newspapers, nobody who knows anything has said anything. if you want to believe the papers, well good on you, we all know they love a story, and well if you believe sky im sure you believe them when they say that each game they show has been the greatest game ever seen.

Nobody knows anything, apart from Moody has gone


Where did I say I was talking about you? Unless your name is "some fans"? :?


well you are on about nobody then, since i doubt we have any fan called "some fans"

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:13 am

BigGwynram wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Change the record chuckles ,a painter lol that's what he done in uni did he ? He probably a lot brighter than me ,you or most of us on this message board


So I'm not allowed to post my thoughts on that? Why not? :?

I don't know what he got a degree in, but it's widely reported that he was painting the corridors of the CCS.

He may well be brighter than many (though that's just a guess from you) but intelligence doesn't mean he would be any good at a football club.

I'd much rather someone with excellent football experiences and references (Moody) than someone who has a first from Oxford, as an example.

:thumbup:

Your allowed your opinion but he isn't a painter is he ? So are you a painter cause you might have painted your kitchen in your house or a mechanical engineer cause you fixed a car or something ?



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Perhaps we should all refer to Chucks as a wanker, in my opinion he must have had at least one/ :lol: :lol:

:lol:

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:14 am

wez1927 wrote: :roll: you keep say that hes a painter in every thread which you write about the moody situation which he is not is he ? just answer me this ????????????? are you lying to suit your own anti club/tan agenda ? ;)


Still cannot answer my question regarding intelligence levels? Shame.

I call him the painter as it is well documented that he was painting the walls of the CCS during the summer... In all seriousness, he has absolutely NO football knowledge or any sort of experience suited to the job he has been put into.. You claim that he's more intelligent, So again, I ask - Stephen Hawkin is one of the most intelligent men in the world, would you want him to replace moody?

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:20 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
wez1927 wrote: :roll: you keep say that hes a painter in every thread which you write about the moody situation which he is not is he ? just answer me this ????????????? are you lying to suit your own anti club/tan agenda ? ;)


Still cannot answer my question regarding intelligence levels? Shame.

I call him the painter as it is well documented that he was painting the walls of the CCS during the summer... In all seriousness, he has absolutely NO football knowledge or any sort of experience suited to the job he has been put into.. You claim that he's more intelligent, So again, I ask - Stephen Hawkin is one of the most intelligent men in the world, would you want him to replace moody?

how can you compare stephen hawkin ? :roll: malky drove moody into training ground once does that mean hes his taxi driver ? ;)
the new guy isn't a painter he's a uni graduate and just starting his footballing journey ,hes definitely is not a painter is he chuckles ???? he might be very good in the short term at collecting the data from the scouting network we have, you don't know and i don't know if hes any good yet :roll:

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:26 am

wez1927 wrote:how can you compare stephen hawkin ? :roll: malky drove moody into training ground once does that mean hes his taxi driver ? ;)

Easy. You guessed that the guy was very intelligent & used that as a reason for his employment... So would you accept Hawkin as he's very intelligent too? Or, as I suspect, are you just looking for excuses to support Tan's crazy decision...

the new guy isn't a painter he's a uni graduate and just starting his footballing journey ,hes definitely is not a painter is he chuckles ???? he might be very good in the short term at collecting the data from the scouting network we have, you don't know and i don't know if hes any good yet :roll:

he's got no footballing experience at all, so I think it's safe to say he won't be as good as Moody was... Especially as Moody was particularly good, according to Mackay.

Re: ' Where does Vincent Tan go from here?

Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:40 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
wez1927 wrote:how can you compare stephen hawkin ? :roll: malky drove moody into training ground once does that mean hes his taxi driver ? ;)

Easy. You guessed that the guy was very intelligent & used that as a reason for his employment... So would you accept Hawkin as he's very intelligent too? Or, as I suspect, are you just looking for excuses to support Tan's crazy decision...

the new guy isn't a painter he's a uni graduate and just starting his footballing journey ,hes definitely is not a painter is he chuckles ???? he might be very good in the short term at collecting the data from the scouting network we have, you don't know and i don't know if hes any good yet :roll:

he's got no footballing experience at all, so I think it's safe to say he won't be as good as Moody was... Especially as Moody was particularly good, according to Mackay.

Chuckles your dodging the question is he a painter ? or a uni graduate ? are you lying and making him out to be a mug to suit your own agenda ? How do you know he hasn't got any football experience at all ? do you know him or are you just bullshiting and trolling around this forum ? ;) hmmmmmmmm