Safety point mark to be higher this year...

Always got me has that one. My brain instantly takes 3 away from 20 (177 and i write 17th. But im sure you all know what i meant.

No it isnt. The top 6 consists of roughly a third of the teams in the league.

After 8 games you should have played 3 top 6 teams which you have, ours has been abnormally high. No idea why you are adding Everton if they finish in the top 6 ill give away my bollocks.

Your first 8 games difficulty is a fair representation of what you are to face the whole year. 3 top 6 contenders, 3 mid table teams and two relegation candidates.

We have had 5 top 6 contenders, 1 mad table team and 2 relegation candidates.

I ve put the surgeon on stand by roathie

No it isnt. The top 6 consists of roughly a third of the teams in the league.

After 8 games you should have played 3 top 6 teams which you have, ours has been abnormally high. No idea why you are adding Everton if they finish in the top 6 ill give away my bollocks.

Your first 8 games difficulty is a fair representation of what you are to face the whole year. 3 top 6 contenders, 3 mid table teams and two relegation candidates.

We have had 5 top 6 contenders, 1 mad table team and 2 relegation candidates.

I ve put the surgeon on stand by roathie

Feel free, there is no way they are a top 6 team this year, just as they rarely ever are.

No it isnt. The top 6 consists of roughly a third of the teams in the league.

After 8 games you should have played 3 top 6 teams which you have, ours has been abnormally high. No idea why you are adding Everton if they finish in the top 6 ill give away my bollocks.

Your first 8 games difficulty is a fair representation of what you are to face the whole year. 3 top 6 contenders, 3 mid table teams and two relegation candidates.

We have had 5 top 6 contenders, 1 mad table team and 2 relegation candidates.

I ve put the surgeon on stand by roathie

Feel free, there is no way they are a top 6 team this year, just as they rarely ever are.

Everton are one of those teams that always pull of results against the top teams,and always seem to be around the top, a top 6 finish ain't impossible,they struggled to find a top finisher,but with lukaku(or however u spell it)now there,that's now sorted,so they can push on

No it isnt. The top 6 consists of roughly a third of the teams in the league.

After 8 games you should have played 3 top 6 teams which you have, ours has been abnormally high. No idea why you are adding Everton if they finish in the top 6 ill give away my bollocks.

Your first 8 games difficulty is a fair representation of what you are to face the whole year. 3 top 6 contenders, 3 mid table teams and two relegation candidates.

We have had 5 top 6 contenders, 1 mad table team and 2 relegation candidates.

I ve put the surgeon on stand by roathie

Feel free, there is no way they are a top 6 team this year, just as they rarely ever are.

Everton are one of those teams that always pull of results against the top teams,and always seem to be around the top, a top 6 finish ain't impossible,they struggled to find a top finisher,but with lukaku(or however u spell it)now there,that's now sorted,so they can push on

Theres no convincing me im afriad. They have lost their manager and best midfielder, yes they have got Lukaku but that isnt enough. There is no way anyone can regard them as a "top side" as has been attempted on this thread. 8th or 9th is their place for me.

Just because Roathie doesn't rate Everton, nobody is allowed to call them a top side? What nonsense.

Just because Roathie doesn't rate Everton, nobody is allowed to call them a top side? What nonsense.

They havent even finished in the top 3 in premier league history. Finished in the top 4 once.

How anyone can call them a top side is beyond me and just simply wrong, like it or not. Those are the facts and they speak for themselves.

It's going to be interesting, but I still reckon we'll stay up comfortably

I foresee nothing comfortable about this season, I agree with Roathie the whole season will be very very tight down there for the last relegation spot.

They havent even finished in the top 3 in premier league history. Finished in the top 4 once.

How anyone can call them a top side is beyond me and just simply wrong, like it or not. Those are the facts and they speak for themselves.

They are a top 6 contender for me, making them one of the top sides in my book.

Just because Roathie doesn't rate Everton, nobody is allowed to call them a top side? What nonsense.

They havent even finished in the top 3 in premier league history. Finished in the top 4 once.

How anyone can call them a top side is beyond me and just simply wrong, like it or not. Those are the facts and they speak for themselves.

All about opinions roathie,I don't think they'd get back to the team they were mid 80s,but a top 7/8 finish ain't bad,they haven't the financial backing to compete top 4 level,but don't rule then out a top 6 finish is well within the reach,and only time will give us the answers,best u freeze some,just in case that operation necessary

They havent even finished in the top 3 in premier league history. Finished in the top 4 once.

How anyone can call them a top side is beyond me and just simply wrong, like it or not. Those are the facts and they speak for themselves.

They are a top 6 contender for me, making them one of the top sides in my book.

A top side with no chance of finishing top, never compete in the modern day champions league (once maybe) and never finished in the top 3 in Prem history. Give over ffs

Theres being pedantic and then theres just being argumentative for the sake of it. Stop now because i have far more stats to pull out

Just because Roathie doesn't rate Everton, nobody is allowed to call them a top side? What nonsense.

They havent even finished in the top 3 in premier league history. Finished in the top 4 once.

How anyone can call them a top side is beyond me and just simply wrong, like it or not. Those are the facts and they speak for themselves.

This Everton side that you dont rate currently holds the Premier league record for attempt at goal during a match, that total is 33 and was against you at the Liberty last season in their 3-0 win, Not such a bad side after all are they.

Just because Roathie doesn't rate Everton, nobody is allowed to call them a top side? What nonsense.

They havent even finished in the top 3 in premier league history. Finished in the top 4 once.

How anyone can call them a top side is beyond me and just simply wrong, like it or not. Those are the facts and they speak for themselves.

All about opinions roathie,I don't think they'd get back to the team they were mid 80s,but a top 7/8 finish ain't bad,they haven't the financial backing to compete top 4 level,but don't rule then out a top 6 finish is well within the reach,and only time will give us the answers,best u freeze some,just in case that operation necessary

Being "not bad" and a "top side" are world apart.

I havent called them a bad side, they are just not a top side - clearly. Thats not even up for debate. A debate on that would be lunacy given their league record. A top side yet never finished in the top 3.

If you want to call them a potential top 6 side however then i guess thats up to you. I dont consider them as that at all and i have bet with my bollocks.

This Everton side that you dont rate currently holds the Premier league record for attempt at goal during a match, that total is 33 and was against you at the Liberty last season in their 3-0 win, Not such a bad side after all are they.

European champions in the making then? Jesus Christ

Ive never called them a bad side, i said they are not a top side.... Which they clearly arent... no matter how you want to argue it. Thats clear.

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A top side with no chance of finishing top, never compete in the modern day champions league (once maybe) and never finished in the top 3 in Prem history. Give over ffs

Theres being pedantic and then theres just being argumentative for the sake of it. Stop now because i have far more stats to pull out

Top 6 contenders, that's what they are. Most definitely. Makes them one of the top sides in my book.

Top 6 contenders, that's what they are. Most definitely. Makes them one of the top sides in my book.

Well your book is wrong.

A top side with no chance of finishing top.... Ever.. heard it all

Well your book is wrong.

A top side with no chance of finishing top, heard it all

I'd say any team that is challenging for top 6 in the English pyramid system is one of the top sides in the league. Especially if they've done it consistently over several seasons.

Well your book is wrong.

A top side with no chance of finishing top, heard it all

I'd say any team that is challenging for top 6 in the English pyramid system is one of the top sides in the league. Especially if they've done it consistently over several seasons.

I dont care.

To be a top side you have to be consistantly qualifying for the top competitions, thats the champions league. You cant be a top side when your ultimate goal each year is to qualify for the Europa league.

Hide behind "its my opinion" all you like but they are not a top side. Just as Newcastle arent a bottom side.

Norwich, Cardiff, Stoke and West ham all have less points than games played so far this season (or the same).

It may well take more than 40 points, but on present form one or more of those teams will get under 40 too, so far too early to say for sure i think.

had to laugh at a stat on Sky Sports after the game last night..... '6 of the last 12 teams who had 3 points from 8 games have survived' bit of a bizarre one, but also means that 6 havent!


Cant see any way out for Palace, Sunderland have hope if Poyet can do something magical (though it will take a lot)

after that we have us, Stoke, norwich, Hull (despite their good start) maybe west ham and west brom too.



Will be very interesting thats for sure.

RoathMagic was suggesting Southampton were a top side the other day & now he's claiming Everton aren't yet Southampton have done even less in the Premiership era than Everton. (Football did exist before 1992 mind). He's winding you all up and changing his views day by day just to get you all biting at him.

RoathMagic was suggesting Southampton were a top side the other day & now he's claiming Everton aren't yet Southampton have done even less in the Premiership era than Everton. (Football did exist before 1992 mind). He's winding you all up and changing his views day by day just to get you all biting at him.

Ive never called them a top side. I called them a top 6 contender did I not? I challenge you to prove otherwise.

As for 1992 what the hell has that got to do with anything presently? How many Everton players are playing still that started prior to the premier league era then?

If you are going to try and be obtuse then at east be accurate theres a good chap

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RoathMagic was suggesting Southampton were a top side the other day & now he's claiming Everton aren't yet Southampton have done even less in the Premiership era than Everton. (Football did exist before 1992 mind). He's winding you all up and changing his views day by day just to get you all biting at him.

Never,it is your first post,you ll soon catch on

RoathMagic was suggesting Southampton were a top side the other day & now he's claiming Everton aren't yet Southampton have done even less in the Premiership era than Everton. (Football did exist before 1992 mind). He's winding you all up and changing his views day by day just to get you all biting at him.

Never,it is your first post,you ll soon catch on

If it winds you up By me making the quite clear observation by saying a team that has never finished in the top 3 in premier league history is not a top side then you really need to find a new passtime..

Anyone can make up things, and i have never once called Southampton a top side.

RoathMagic was suggesting Southampton were a top side the other day & now he's claiming Everton aren't yet Southampton have done even less in the Premiership era than Everton. (Football did exist before 1992 mind). He's winding you all up and changing his views day by day just to get you all biting at him.

Never,it is your first post,you ll soon catch on

If it winds you up By me making the quite clear observation by saying a team that has never finished in the top 3 in premier league history is not a top side then you really need to find a new passtime..

Anyone can make up things, and i have never once called Southampton a top side.

Some poster don't know what a debate is,one between two people who agree won't last long and would be boring,one between two people who got different views,are the ones that gets the blood boiling,you got the ones who just take it in good spirit or the ones who start crying,what's the new poster?,a cry baby or not?

RoathMagic was suggesting Southampton were a top side the other day & now he's claiming Everton aren't yet Southampton have done even less in the Premiership era than Everton. (Football did exist before 1992 mind). He's winding you all up and changing his views day by day just to get you all biting at him.

Never,it is your first post,you ll soon catch on

If it winds you up By me making the quite clear observation by saying a team that has never finished in the top 3 in premier league history is not a top side then you really need to find a new passtime..

Anyone can make up things, and i have never once called Southampton a top side.

Some poster don't know what a debate is,one between two people who agree won't last long and would be boring,one between two people who got different views,are the ones that gets the blood boiling,you got the ones who just take it in good spirit or the ones who start crying,what's the new poster?,a cry baby or not?

I reckon its polo if im being honest. He keeps pretending that im on ignore, hes already replied to one of my posts today so doubt he has the minerals to do it again without looking even more of a bell.

So to answer your question, i reckon hes a crybaby certainly

RoathMagic was suggesting Southampton were a top side the other day & now he's claiming Everton aren't yet Southampton have done even less in the Premiership era than Everton. (Football did exist before 1992 mind). He's winding you all up and changing his views day by day just to get you all biting at him.

Just wondering what your usual user name?????,I see you added latest name this morning,but stated roathie quoted something about Southampton few days back