' Malky and Tan '

If we hadn't been in the middle of an international break, this would have been a much smaller story.

No-one gets to be a billionaire by being stupid. I don't think Mr Tan is quite the simpleton that people seem to think. He obviously thought Moody had to go for the good of the club and the business. Whether he is right or wrong will be judged by what happens on the field, not the board room.

agree but people still want to keep the circus running and running

The Circus is world wide now and it needs an ending ASAP , it is on going and wont be resolved for another 2 weeks, so how do you think Malky must be feeling? Not good in my opinion going in to two tough away games, so on Saturday those who go to Chelsea, then Norwich, must show our appreciation louder than ever for Malky

Hopefully a win at Chelsea will end it for now lol

Wez, On this point you are spot on, a win at Chelsea really would. Also if we had been playing games lately that would of helped.

Fingers crossed The players know the pressure Malky is under, and Bellamy and the rest come flying out and working even harder than normal to show their support for Malky, we pick up some outstanding results and everyone lives happily ever after

If we hadn't been in the middle of an international break, this would have been a much smaller story.

No-one gets to be a billionaire by being stupid. I don't think Mr Tan is quite the simpleton that people seem to think. He obviously thought Moody had to go for the good of the club and the business. Whether he is right or wrong will be judged by what happens on the field, not the board room.

agree but people still want to keep the circus running and running

The Circus is world wide now and it needs an ending ASAP , it is on going and wont be resolved for another 2 weeks, so how do you think Malky must be feeling? Not good in my opinion going in to two tough away games, so on Saturday those who go to Chelsea, then Norwich, must show our appreciation louder than ever for Malky

Hopefully a win at Chelsea will end it for now lol

Wez, On this point you are spot on, a win at Chelsea really would. Also if we had been playing games lately that would of helped.

every international break I dread cause over the last few years something blows up under Sam's ,risdale s and tans time can't wait till Saturday to watch the game lol

Fingers crossed The players know the pressure Malky is under, and Bellamy and the rest come flying out and working even harder than normal to show their support for Malky, we pick up some outstanding results and everyone lives happily ever after

At 10/1 I'm putting 50 on for Saturday got a feeling all the bullshit will bring the players together

Fingers crossed The players know the pressure Malky is under, and Bellamy and the rest come flying out and working even harder than normal to show their support for Malky, we pick up some outstanding results and everyone lives happily ever after

This would be the perfect ending to a low time at our club

Who ever said there's nothing we can do is wrong

The only reason Malky still has a job is because dictator tan had seen all the fans ready to jump back on the blue bandwagon.
He knows that all you would hear is Tan Out

Tan has shown his weakness and we should take advantage to make the man understand that success comes from investing in the team
Not ripping a clubs history apart for the sake of superstition
Fact is because we lost in the playoffs he thought blue is unlucky
Wrong we list because we had an English manager with zero passion coaching a bunch of loan players
These players had no idea where they would be the following season so that's it
Stop backing his ridiculous red rubbish and remember who we are
Bluebirds!!!

Putting this on here is not stirring because this is what i am led to believe is happening behind the scenes, probably not much of a secret to some anyway.

Malky didn't need the headache/pressure before tough games like Chelsea, Norwich and Swansea, it is hard enough as it is without all this going on.

Malky's agent is unhappy with everything that has happened and that's why he has been speaking out in the media.

There is no stirring here, no winding anyone up, its what I am told and I thought this all along, but had it confirmed to me yesterday.

I am led to believe that everything is not rosy in the garden between Malky and Tan and the next two weeks could be crucial to whether Malky stays.

In the board meeting on Monday, Malky insisted he wanted the final say on all transfers and it was Mehmet Dalman who convinced Tan that this should be the case.

Had Malky not got the guarantee that he would have the final say over the transfers then, I am told and I believe it, Malky was ready to walk.

In a fortnight Tan flys over ahead of the Swansea game and a meeting is arranged between Malky, Dalman and Tan.

This meeting will be the first face to face Malky and Tan will have had since the removal of Iain Moody.

Thumbs up to Mehmet Dalman keep up the good work and hopefully all will be resolved in two weeks and we beat the Jacks as well.

MAYBE IT SHOULD STAY BEHIND THE SCENES ANNIS AND NOT IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN WE GOT 3 MASSIVE GAMES COMING UP

Tell that to Tan the c**t, he's the one taking the piss out of our club

No one knows what's really gone on apart from the leaders/owners of the football club.

Of tan wanted malky gone he would be gone.

Baz, True, but not True as Tan does not want to part with a whopping £1mill just like that,he knows how to earn money and has no intentions of giving it away that easy.

Malky aint going to walk away from a million either...............
other clubs though.........are now aware that Malky isnt happy, and neither is Tan.........and maybe an approach might suit everyone,without having a huge compo demand...?????????????????...........maybe

Fingers crossed The players know the pressure Malky is under, and Bellamy and the rest come flying out and working even harder than normal to show their support for Malky, we pick up some outstanding results and everyone lives happily ever after

At 10/1 I'm putting 50 on for Saturday got a feeling all the bullshit will bring the players together

12/1 on Skybet

Some fans still defending Tan. Pathetic. What about your fellow fan?

This club used to be proud like Roma, Liverpool, West Ham and could have got to Europe the right way in blue (albeit it would have taken longer most likely) and have been known around the world for being a true passionate and hostile club. We could have marched with fellow bluebirds proudly and waved the Cardiff flag in a way that was true to us and our way of being.

If we ever get to Europe it will just be a bigger platform for others to take verbal shots at us and put us more in the limelight for all the rubbish and circus we've become totally negating from the amazing time we should have. The only way to get rid of the stigma is to rise up and fight for what we truly believe in and show the world that we are not prepared to be backed into a corner at whatever cost.

Absolute joke of a club we've become.

Some fans still defending Tan. Pathetic. What about your fellow fan?

This club used to be proud like Roma, Liverpool, West Ham and could have got to Europe the right way in blue (albeit it would have taken longer most likely) and have been known around the world for being a true passionate and hostile club. We could have marched with fellow bluebirds proudly and waved the Cardiff flag in a way that was true to us and our way of being.

If we ever get to Europe it will just be a bigger platform for others to take verbal shots at us and put us more in the limelight for all the rubbish and circus we've become totally negating from the amazing time we should have. The only way to get rid of the stigma is to rise up and fight for what we truly believe in and show the world that we are not prepared to be backed into a corner at whatever cost.

Absolute joke of a club we've become.

You need to have a word with Tans puppet Wez as Tan does no wrong according to him

It's a strange scenario, because if Tan wanted rid of Malky then he would have said no someone else gets final say on transfers.
Then malky walks.

Cause he doesnt want rid of malky he wanted rid of moody cause he thinks he done a shit job maybe ?

Why are you defending hitler tan for?

Bonus Robbie Savage: Cardiff City fans and Malky Mackay have every right to see red
17 Oct 2013 22:30
First the kit colour changes, now a slap in the face for the manager who finally took them back to the top flight after 50 years



Check out all the latest News, Sport & Celeb gossip at Mirror.co.uk http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... z2i1iIBJ2v

Annis, a late response I know, but I can't help having the (positive) feeling that Tan has had a bit of a wake-up call over recent events and whilst he won't go so far as an apology, I think what has happened n recent days is about as close to a 'climb down' as anyone will ever see from him (Tan)

I may well be wrong, but the changes that have been made (Moody apart) despite the apparent public fallout have on the whole been positive and, on the surface, strengthened Malky's grip within the club

Whether that is true remains to be seen, but I think Mehmet is the major player here and if he has persuaded Tan to back both Club and Malky in the way portrayed to date, then it all looks good for the immediate future

Of course, a big factor will be how Tan meets and greets Malky at their first meeting. IMHO he doesn't need to apologise, but a warm handshake and maybe a 'man hug' would go a million miles towards healing any remaining wounds

Some fans still defending Tan. Pathetic. What about your fellow fan?

This club used to be proud like Roma, Liverpool, West Ham and could have got to Europe the right way in blue (albeit it would have taken longer most likely) and have been known around the world for being a true passionate and hostile club. We could have marched with fellow bluebirds proudly and waved the Cardiff flag in a way that was true to us and our way of being.

If we ever get to Europe it will just be a bigger platform for others to take verbal shots at us and put us more in the limelight for all the rubbish and circus we've become totally negating from the amazing time we should have. The only way to get rid of the stigma is to rise up and fight for what we truly believe in and show the world that we are not prepared to be backed into a corner at whatever cost.

Absolute joke of a club we've become.

All of a sudden you care about fellow fans?

Stop altering your stance every second minute. You look like an idiot. Nobody takes anything you say seriously anymore.

Annis, a late response I know, but I can't help having the (positive) feeling that Tan has had a bit of a wake-up call over recent events and whilst he won't go so far as an apology, I think what has happened n recent days is about as close to a 'climb down' as anyone will ever see from him (Tan)

I may well be wrong, but the changes that have been made (Moody apart) despite the apparent public fallout have on the whole been positive and, on the surface, strengthened Malky's grip within the club

Whether that is true remains to be seen, but I think Mehmet is the major player here and if he has persuaded Tan to back both Club and Malky in the way portrayed to date, then it all looks good for the immediate future

Of course, a big factor will be how Tan meets and greets Malky at their first meeting. IMHO he doesn't need to apologise, but a warm handshake and maybe a 'man hug' would go a million miles towards healing any remaining wounds

Chris, you might be right, it shows Tan is human after all and this could be a wake up call for him, in 2 weeks time, I hope there are real handshakes and we can finally move on from the circus fiasco

Annis, a late response I know, but I can't help having the (positive) feeling that Tan has had a bit of a wake-up call over recent events and whilst he won't go so far as an apology, I think what has happened n recent days is about as close to a 'climb down' as anyone will ever see from him (Tan)

I may well be wrong, but the changes that have been made (Moody apart) despite the apparent public fallout have on the whole been positive and, on the surface, strengthened Malky's grip within the club

Whether that is true remains to be seen, but I think Mehmet is the major player here and if he has persuaded Tan to back both Club and Malky in the way portrayed to date, then it all looks good for the immediate future

Of course, a big factor will be how Tan meets and greets Malky at their first meeting. IMHO he doesn't need to apologise, but a warm handshake and maybe a 'man hug' would go a million miles towards healing any remaining wounds

Chris, you might be right, it shows Tan is human after all and this could be a wake up call for him, in 2 weeks time, I hope there are real handshakes and we can finally move on from the circus fiasco

We can all dream, mate!

I did not want to make any further comments on this matter until Mackay had left the club,but i feel i have to........Tan is a very shrewd businessman and is playing the long game,i think he wants Mackay out,but is not willing to pay him off,no he will be prepared to let Mackay carry on losing games,in the sure knowledge that in time even Mackays most loyal supporters will start to question the scotmans ability to manage at this level.......the real question will be, how long will Tan wait?

I did not want to make any further comments on this matter until Mackay had left the club,but i feel i have to........Tan is a very shrewd businessman and is playing the long game,i think he wants Mackay out,but is not willing to pay him off,no he will be prepared to let Mackay carry on losing games,in the sure knowledge that in time even Mackays most loyal supporters will start to question the scotmans ability to manage at this level.......the real question will be, how long will Tan wait?

if we lose our matches against norwich,villa and the jacks games malky should be sacked no one expects us to win against chelsea ,i think if tan really wanted him gone he would put him on gardening leave and get compo off which ever club could come in for him ,i dont think its about money with tan ,hes got enough of it

If we hadn't been in the middle of an international break, this would have been a much smaller story.

No-one gets to be a billionaire by being stupid. I don't think Mr Tan is quite the simpleton that people seem to think. He obviously thought Moody had to go for the good of the club and the business. Whether he is right or wrong will be judged by what happens on the field, not the board room.

This business of billionaires haven't made their money by being stupid is now a well worn cliche.
That doesnt mean they have never done anything stupid. Are you actually saying that The Mad Emperor was sensible during the last ten days?

The man is a disrepectful bully who is going to find out the hard way that Welsh folk wont be bullied.
Chelsea.......1
Cardiff City..2

All of a sudden you care about fellow fans?

Stop altering your stance every second minute. You look like an idiot. Nobody takes anything you say seriously anymore.

Do one.

i fully agree that malky should be the last say on transfers... 100%

how many times have we seen before if a team does bad... the manager gets sacked

well ifthat said manager has nothas his hand in all the transfers then it does seem to be harsh at times when managers are sacked in that case

and it seems to be clear as said not exactly new news but its clear malky is saying he has not been involved in all signings... velikonja perhaps for one ? who really knows

but yes if malkys head is the one who rolls then it should be the case that he has the 1st and last word on who is signed

sam hamann needs to keep out of the Cardiff affairs to

Malky and Sam seem to be from different worlds I dont think Malky is the sort of fella to give Sam the time of day. And I think that the relationship between Malky/Tan is gone forever.

Judging today's interview this is stirring.

No one knows what's really gone on apart from the leaders/owners of the football club.

Of tan wanted malky gone he would be gone.

Baz, True, but not True as Tan does not want to part with a whopping £1mill just like that,he knows how to earn money and has no intentions of giving it away that easy.

This is complete scaremongering. You dont know if Tan wants Malky out or not. Malky and Tan have both said they are happy, the club have backed Malky and Malky has said it has all been cleared and sorted.

I would rather believe what comes from the horses mouth. If Tan wanted Malky out, he would be out. Simple as that.

Some fans still defending Tan. Pathetic. What about your fellow fan?

This club used to be proud like Roma, Liverpool, West Ham and could have got to Europe the right way in blue (albeit it would have taken longer most likely) and have been known around the world for being a true passionate and hostile club. We could have marched with fellow bluebirds proudly and waved the Cardiff flag in a way that was true to us and our way of being.

If we ever get to Europe it will just be a bigger platform for others to take verbal shots at us and put us more in the limelight for all the rubbish and circus we've become totally negating from the amazing time we should have. The only way to get rid of the stigma is to rise up and fight for what we truly believe in and show the world that we are not prepared to be backed into a corner at whatever cost.

Absolute joke of a club we've become.

Stop being a tool. If you have been following Cardiff for the past few years you would know that we are no longer a hostile club. This was after the move from Ninian Park nothing to do with the colour change.

If you go to away games you would know we still have one of the best vocal supporters in the League. Your points again are non valid.

Without Tan we wouldnt be marching to Europe. We would probably have entered administration as our debts were uncontrollable.

Stop being a tool.

Stop with the abuse? I suspect in person you'd say nothing. Of course you could take up the opportunity to prove otherwise if you'd like.

If you have been following Cardiff for the past few years you would know that we are no longer a hostile club. This was after the move from Ninian Park nothing to do with the colour change.

More fair weather fans joined upon the rebrand and that is the truth. To say 'we were no longer' is different. Had we done things the right way then we could have had a different end result so you never know.

If you go to away games you would know we still have one of the best vocal supporters in the League.

Not disputing that. However, the watering down and joke our image has become thanks to the antics by the club means no other fans in the world will take us seriously and will see as nothing more than a Welsh Red Bull Salzburg that sold out and took the easy option to try and achieve glory. We will become a European laughing stock.

Without Tan we wouldnt be marching to Europe. We would probably have entered administration as our debts were uncontrollable.

Swansea entered administration, worked their way up the divisions and are now in Europe. I guess that makes your point invalid, as you like to say.

Stop being a tool.

Stop with the abuse? I suspect in person you'd say nothing. Of course you could take up the opportunity to prove otherwise if you'd like.

If you have been following Cardiff for the past few years you would know that we are no longer a hostile club. This was after the move from Ninian Park nothing to do with the colour change.

More fair weather fans joined upon the rebrand and that is the truth. To say 'we were no longer' is different. Had we done things the right way then we could have had a different end result so you never know.

If you go to away games you would know we still have one of the best vocal supporters in the League.

Not disputing that. However, the watering down and joke our image has become thanks to the antics by the club means no other fans in the world will take us seriously and will see as nothing more than a Welsh Red Bull Salzburg that sold out and took the easy option to try and achieve glory. We will become a European laughing stock.

Without Tan we wouldnt be marching to Europe. We would probably have entered administration as our debts were uncontrollable.

Swansea entered administration, worked their way up the divisions and are now in Europe. I guess that makes your point invalid, as you like to say.

Im not going to get into a keyboard warrior style argument with you. However, if you knew me in person, you would know that I act and behave on here as I would in real life. The difference with you is that you have multiple personality dissorder.

And the difference between us and Swansea is our debt is around £60 million more than therez was when they entered administration. We would have had to liquidate the club. However, it is strange that you would be more willing to leave people millions out of pocket than through entering admin than 'sell-out'.

Im not going to get into a keyboard warrior style argument with you. However, if you knew me in person, you would know that I act and behave on here as I would in real life. The difference with you is that you have multiple personality dissorder.

Okay. First you say you don't wish to get into an argument with me then abuse me and claim, with no background in psychology whatsoever, that I have a disorder. Great. I have asked for a ban on my account as I have made my views clear and no longer wish to engage in people over club politics, especially when I am as of current disillusioned with the current regime at our club. I think its in the best interests if those who claim they are disillusioned step away i.e. TLG and ELY BOY instead of repeating the same stuff and annoy those who just wish to get on with things. Im sure you'll agree on this stance.

And the difference between us and Swansea is our debt is around £60 million more than therez was when they entered administration. We would have had to liquidate the club. However, it is strange that you would be more willing to leave people millions out of pocket than through entering admin than 'sell-out'.

Phoenix club like Leeds United. It can be done.