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Re: £900 per week on benefits!!!!

Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:37 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Should be 2 kids max, any others then youpay for them yourself.

Your kids should be your responsiblity not everyone elses!!!


again another idiotic speech from Adam


No not really as its very similar to what Ian Duncan Smith has recently stated and he has been praised by all sides of the House of Commons for his research on the subject

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... efits.html

Re: £900 per week on benefits!!!!

Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:43 pm

Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Should be 2 kids max, any others then youpay for them yourself.

Your kids should be your responsiblity not everyone elses!!!


again another idiotic speech from Adam


No not really as its very similar to what Ian Duncan Smith has recently stated and he has been praised by all sides of the House of Commons for his research on the subject

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... efits.html


is it being praised really?

why would you want to punish children who cant work? what are they supposed to do live on the streets sorry your the third kid how about a massive increase in the abortion rate (which this country would have to pay for) because they got pregnant for the third time knowing this country wont support them.

this policy assumes once you stop working you will never work again or have never worked. Its typical of the Conservatives that dont realise what the real word is like

Re: £900 per week on benefits!!!!

Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:47 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Should be 2 kids max, any others then youpay for them yourself.

Your kids should be your responsiblity not everyone elses!!!


again another idiotic speech from Adam


No not really as its very similar to what Ian Duncan Smith has recently stated and he has been praised by all sides of the House of Commons for his research on the subject

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... efits.html


is it being praised really?

why would you want to punish children who cant work? what are they supposed to do live on the streets sorry your the third kid how about a massive increase in the abortion rate (which this country would have to pay for) because they got pregnant for the third time knowing this country wont support them.

this policy assumes once you stop working you will never work again or have never worked. Its typical of the Conservatives that dont realise what the real word is like


'HE' is being praised!!!

Whatever has happened topersonal responsibility on this country..? If you cant afford children then put something on the end of it then!!!

Re: £900 per week on benefits!!!!

Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:52 pm

Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Should be 2 kids max, any others then youpay for them yourself.

Your kids should be your responsiblity not everyone elses!!!


again another idiotic speech from Adam


No not really as its very similar to what Ian Duncan Smith has recently stated and he has been praised by all sides of the House of Commons for his research on the subject

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... efits.html


is it being praised really?

why would you want to punish children who cant work? what are they supposed to do live on the streets sorry your the third kid how about a massive increase in the abortion rate (which this country would have to pay for) because they got pregnant for the third time knowing this country wont support them.

this policy assumes once you stop working you will never work again or have never worked. Its typical of the Conservatives that dont realise what the real word is like


'HE' is being praised!!!

Whatever has happened topersonal responsibility on this country..? If you cant afford children then put something on the end of it then!!!


Whichever way you put it you are agreeing with communist China that you want social engineering :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5:

Re: £900 per week on benefits!!!!

Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:53 pm

splottbluebird48 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Should be 2 kids max, any others then youpay for them yourself.

Your kids should be your responsiblity not everyone elses!!!


again another idiotic speech from Adam


No not really as its very similar to what Ian Duncan Smith has recently stated and he has been praised by all sides of the House of Commons for his research on the subject

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... efits.html


is it being praised really?

why would you want to punish children who cant work? what are they supposed to do live on the streets sorry your the third kid how about a massive increase in the abortion rate (which this country would have to pay for) because they got pregnant for the third time knowing this country wont support them.

this policy assumes once you stop working you will never work again or have never worked. Its typical of the Conservatives that dont realise what the real word is like


'HE' is being praised!!!

Whatever has happened topersonal responsibility on this country..? If you cant afford children then put something on the end of it then!!!


Whichever way you put it you are agreeing with communist China that you want social engineering :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5:


Are you really saying that UK Governments have never social enginnered anything in the past..? :lol:

Re: £900 per week on benefits!!!!

Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:54 pm

Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Should be 2 kids max, any others then youpay for them yourself.

Your kids should be your responsiblity not everyone elses!!!


again another idiotic speech from Adam


No not really as its very similar to what Ian Duncan Smith has recently stated and he has been praised by all sides of the House of Commons for his research on the subject

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... efits.html


is it being praised really?

why would you want to punish children who cant work? what are they supposed to do live on the streets sorry your the third kid how about a massive increase in the abortion rate (which this country would have to pay for) because they got pregnant for the third time knowing this country wont support them.

this policy assumes once you stop working you will never work again or have never worked. Its typical of the Conservatives that dont realise what the real word is like


'HE' is being praised!!!

Whatever has happened topersonal responsibility on this country..? If you cant afford children then put something on the end of it then!!!


has he where? oh you mean by the conservative party shock horror that they would support one of their own

most child poverty organisations have damned this policy stating you are only punishing the innocent ie children who cannot work.

what do propose to do if the thing you put on the end of it doesnt work and you end up getting pregnant for the third time, whos responsibility is that then? will the government support a change in the law over abortion? will it support children being left in the street to fend for themselves because parents cant afford to look after them and the government wont support them

is that your policy Adam the mass murder of innocent lives?

Re: £900 per week on benefits!!!!

Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:55 pm

You are clearly stating that policy whats next Eugenics :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5:

Re: £900 per week on benefits!!!!

Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:56 pm

Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Should be 2 kids max, any others then youpay for them yourself.

Your kids should be your responsiblity not everyone elses!!!


again another idiotic speech from Adam


No not really as its very similar to what Ian Duncan Smith has recently stated and he has been praised by all sides of the House of Commons for his research on the subject

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... efits.html

Is this the same Iran Duncan smith,who gave senior civil service staff 99 800 of them bonus between them
Totalling. 43.8 million pounds while cutting benefits for people,he a good example

Re: £900 per week on benefits!!!!

Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:59 pm

They had SKY and Virgin inthe same house and couldn't work from home because the TV will be on!!!!

Re: £900 per week on benefits!!!!

Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:59 pm

sleepers wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
sleepers wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Should be 2 kids max, any others then youpay for them yourself.

Your kids should be your responsiblity not everyone elses!!!

so what happens if a man has been employed for a firm for 20 years paid contributions
then is firm goes bust,and he has 4 kids,what you want him to do sell 2.


No max 2 kids you get benefit for, simple really.

no wonder you never made it as a politician


Innit! I have never heard so much bollocks come from the mouth/fingers from someone involved in politics! What happens to the other children above 2? Do they starve to death? :shock:

I can just imagine Cameron coming out with this in prime ministers question time! He'd be forced to retire by the end of the day! :laughing6:

Re: £900 per week on benefits!!!!

Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:01 pm

They are taking the f@@king piss!!! Would they have had these kids if they had to pay for them hell no! The system is wrong but that doesn't make abusing it right. Thats whats wrong with this bloody country people think just because they can get away with something means they should. There is very little moral fibre left in society nowadays. :evil:

Re: £900 per week on benefits!!!!

Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:03 pm

64JACK wrote:
sleepers wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
sleepers wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Should be 2 kids max, any others then youpay for them yourself.

Your kids should be your responsiblity not everyone elses!!!

so what happens if a man has been employed for a firm for 20 years paid contributions
then is firm goes bust,and he has 4 kids,what you want him to do sell 2.


No max 2 kids you get benefit for, simple really.

no wonder you never made it as a politician


Innit! I have never heard so much bollocks come from the mouth/fingers from someone involved in politics! What happens to the other children above 2? Do they starve to death? :shock:

I can just imagine Cameron coming out with this in prime ministers question time! He'd be forced to retire by the end of the day! :laughing6:



IDS has already set-up a similar system FFS!!! :lol: Don't really follow politics do you..? No wonder Wales is fucked

Re: £900 per week on benefits!!!!

Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:08 pm

do you masturbate over photos of IDS to save having children

Re: £900 per week on benefits!!!!

Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:08 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:
Bluetwin wrote:
splottbluebird48 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
splottbluebird48 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Channel 5 now!!! :shock:


Which is appalling do you say the same about Tax dodgers?


yeah and your point being..?


Point being are you shocked as much if its people cheating tax?


Yes. Just as shocked.

Too many indolent lazy good for f**k all wasters are being given too much money!

The programme is about that tonight!

It may be tax dodgers another time.


Dont understand your point she has 11 kids no she doesnt work on that she should be punished maybe but 11 kids need feeding and a roof over their head something this country is responsible for, every family working or not working receives child benefit, I cant imagine £900 goes far when feeding 11 kids every week and why call the kids benefit scroungers most of them are not able to work because of their age cant really blame them for not working.


Come on Johnny, 11 kids for fucks sake. The woman should be put down for being a fecking idiot or given a free subscription to CCMB so the slipper wearing guardian reading sheep can chip in a few quid to "keep" her in the manner she's accustomed to. What the f**k has happened in Wales to have all this fecking bollocks Eh! I was brought up by my grandparents and one of the things I was taught, ney learned that avoiding paying tax was the prime directive, cash in hand when one could get it. Claiming "benefits" from the government was very, very much frowned upon. In fact when they had both passed, turned out that were entitled to thousands of unpaid benefit money that they'd never claimed or wished to. This sniveling, groveling attitude by, largely those who profess to be left, sickens me. Lastly the Country is not responsible for oiks breeding habits, they want to breed like pigs, let them live like pigs.

Rant over, well not quite.

Free Education for all should be top priority, take a leaf out of the ex socialist countries whereby everyone had a free education be it a nuclear scientist, a doctor, a bricklayer, waiter, labourer, whatever. Everyone was educated by the State and although there was a lot wrong with the system, corruption largely, it did work.

Most other countries I've lived in also have a genuinely free health care system, UK probably the most expensive pile of shite I've ever encountered, got to be up there with the yanks system as the worst in the world. Yes we (well you, I don't live in UK anymore) do have some of the some of greatest health care workers in the world, be it doctors, nurses, surgeons, para medics, ambulance drivers, great caring people. The whole system is run by complete and utter idiots though which is not sad it's worse. Unfortunately most such idiots infest football message boards.

Rant now over.

Re: £900 per week on benefits!!!!

Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:16 pm

Military Junta wrote:
64JACK wrote:
sleepers wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
sleepers wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Should be 2 kids max, any others then youpay for them yourself.

Your kids should be your responsiblity not everyone elses!!!

so what happens if a man has been employed for a firm for 20 years paid contributions
then is firm goes bust,and he has 4 kids,what you want him to do sell 2.


No max 2 kids you get benefit for, simple really.

no wonder you never made it as a politician


Innit! I have never heard so much bollocks come from the mouth/fingers from someone involved in politics! What happens to the other children above 2? Do they starve to death? :shock:

I can just imagine Cameron coming out with this in prime ministers question time! He'd be forced to retire by the end of the day! :laughing6:



IDS has already set-up a similar system FFS!!! :lol: Don't really follow politics do you..? No wonder Wales is fucked


Adam, No I don't normally follow politics, but is that seriously a reason as to why Wales is fucked? ...........So your point is?
I don't deny IDS (sounds like a disease) may have set up a similar system, it would not suprise me. But the whole crux of your arguement fell apart at the very beginning when you stated even if someone had worked for 20 years and had 4 kids they would only be able to claim for 2 should they fall out of employment!!!!!!!!!! Staggering! :laughing6:

Re: £900 per week on benefits!!!!

Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:16 pm

Willy the Wombat wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Bluetwin wrote:
splottbluebird48 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
splottbluebird48 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Channel 5 now!!! :shock:


Which is appalling do you say the same about Tax dodgers?


yeah and your point being..?


Point being are you shocked as much if its people cheating tax?


Yes. Just as shocked.

Too many indolent lazy good for f**k all wasters are being given too much money!

The programme is about that tonight!

It may be tax dodgers another time.


Dont understand your point she has 11 kids no she doesnt work on that she should be punished maybe but 11 kids need feeding and a roof over their head something this country is responsible for, every family working or not working receives child benefit, I cant imagine £900 goes far when feeding 11 kids every week and why call the kids benefit scroungers most of them are not able to work because of their age cant really blame them for not working.


Come on Johnny, 11 kids for fucks sake. The woman should be put down for being a fecking idiot or given a free subscription to CCMB so the slipper wearing guardian reading sheep can chip in a few quid to "keep" her in the manner she's accustomed to. What the f**k has happened in Wales to have all this fecking bollocks Eh! I was brought up by my grandparents and one of the things I was taught, ney learned that avoiding paying tax was the prime directive, cash in hand when one could get it. Claiming "benefits" from the government was very, very much frowned upon. In fact when they had both passed, turned out that were entitled to thousands of unpaid benefit money that they'd never claimed or wished to. This sniveling, groveling attitude by, largely those who profess to be left, sickens me. Lastly the Country is not responsible for oiks breeding habits, they want to breed like pigs, let them live like pigs.

Rant over, well not quite.

Free Education for all should be top priority, take a leaf out of the ex socialist countries whereby everyone had a free education be it a nuclear scientist, a doctor, a bricklayer, waiter, labourer, whatever. Everyone was educated by the State and although there was a lot wrong with the system, corruption largely, it did work.

Most other countries I've lived in also have a genuinely free health care system, UK probably the most expensive pile of shite I've ever encountered, got to be up there with the yanks system as the worst in the world. Yes we (well you, I don't live in UK anymore) do have some of the some of greatest health care workers in the world, be it doctors, nurses, surgeons, para medics, ambulance drivers, great caring people. The whole system is run by complete and utter idiots though which is not sad it's worse. Unfortunately most such idiots infest football message boards.

Rant now over.


No I agree 11 kids is a bit mad cant say I would consider having that many myself but that point is now irrelevant, these children now exist, they are British citizens and by that right should be protected by the state and child benefit is always given to the mother.

So my question which of these 11 kids or the ones under working age should go without to alleviate the outrage of £900 a week benefits, or which ones or how many would you let starve?

Re: £900 per week on benefits!!!!

Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:16 pm

splottbluebird48 wrote:do you masturbate over photos of IDS to save having children


:laughing6:

Re: £900 per week on benefits!!!!

Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:18 pm

Your average politician claims expenses of around £35,000 per year EACH!!!. That's quite a bar bill. No wonder Adam is so bitter since he's not getting any of that. :lol:

If these MP's want to whinge about waste then perhaps they should buy their own beer like the rest of us!

Re: £900 per week on benefits!!!!

Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:19 pm

64JACK wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
64JACK wrote:
sleepers wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
sleepers wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Should be 2 kids max, any others then youpay for them yourself.

Your kids should be your responsiblity not everyone elses!!!

so what happens if a man has been employed for a firm for 20 years paid contributions
then is firm goes bust,and he has 4 kids,what you want him to do sell 2.


No max 2 kids you get benefit for, simple really.

no wonder you never made it as a politician


Innit! I have never heard so much bollocks come from the mouth/fingers from someone involved in politics! What happens to the other children above 2? Do they starve to death? :shock:

I can just imagine Cameron coming out with this in prime ministers question time! He'd be forced to retire by the end of the day! :laughing6:



IDS has already set-up a similar system FFS!!! :lol: Don't really follow politics do you..? No wonder Wales is fucked


Adam, No I don't normally follow politics, but is that seriously a reason as to why Wales is fucked? ...........So your point is?
I don't deny IDS (sounds like a disease) may have set up a similar system, it would not suprise me. But the whole crux of your arguement fell apart at the very beginning when you stated even if someone had worked for 20 years and had 4 kids they would only be able to claim for 2 should they fall out of employment!!!!!!!!!! Staggering! :laughing6:


Yeah Wales would never survive alone because it would never be able to cover the benefit costs!!! FACT.

Re: £900 per week on benefits!!!!

Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:21 pm

Berwyn wrote:Your average politician claims expenses of around £35,000 per year EACH!!!. That's quite a bar bill. No wonder Adam is so bitter since he's not getting any of that. :lol:

If these MP's want to whinge about waste then perhaps they should buy their own beer like the rest of us!


£35k!!!! I wish!!!!!
http://www.merthyr.gov.uk/English/Counc ... PDF%2012KB).pdf and Merthyr pays more than other councils!!! :lol:

Re: £900 per week on benefits!!!!

Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:22 pm

Military Junta wrote:
64JACK wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
64JACK wrote:
sleepers wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
sleepers wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Should be 2 kids max, any others then youpay for them yourself.

Your kids should be your responsiblity not everyone elses!!!

so what happens if a man has been employed for a firm for 20 years paid contributions
then is firm goes bust,and he has 4 kids,what you want him to do sell 2.


No max 2 kids you get benefit for, simple really.

no wonder you never made it as a politician


Innit! I have never heard so much bollocks come from the mouth/fingers from someone involved in politics! What happens to the other children above 2? Do they starve to death? :shock:

I can just imagine Cameron coming out with this in prime ministers question time! He'd be forced to retire by the end of the day! :laughing6:



IDS has already set-up a similar system FFS!!! :lol: Don't really follow politics do you..? No wonder Wales is fucked


Adam, No I don't normally follow politics, but is that seriously a reason as to why Wales is fucked? ...........So your point is?
I don't deny IDS (sounds like a disease) may have set up a similar system, it would not suprise me. But the whole crux of your arguement fell apart at the very beginning when you stated even if someone had worked for 20 years and had 4 kids they would only be able to claim for 2 should they fall out of employment!!!!!!!!!! Staggering! :laughing6:


Yeah Wales would never survive alone because it would never be able to cover the benefit costs!!! FACT.


And if Wales went alone perhaps we'd still have 230,000 people working in the mining industry alone. Then there's the once proud steel industry that is now owned by Indians. FACT!

Re: £900 per week on benefits!!!!

Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:22 pm

They shouldn't get any benefit unless they have a history of work. After 6 mths it should stop and they be forced to work . f*cking spongers. Immigrants they would get nothing.

Re: £900 per week on benefits!!!!

Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:23 pm

Military Junta wrote:
Berwyn wrote:Your average politician claims expenses of around £35,000 per year EACH!!!. That's quite a bar bill. No wonder Adam is so bitter since he's not getting any of that. :lol:

If these MP's want to whinge about waste then perhaps they should buy their own beer like the rest of us!


£35k!!!! I wish!!!!!
http://www.merthyr.gov.uk/English/Counc ... PDF%2012KB).pdf and Merthyr pays more than other councils!!! :lol:


wow what a link

Re: £900 per week on benefits!!!!

Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:23 pm

Military Junta wrote:
Berwyn wrote:Your average politician claims expenses of around £35,000 per year EACH!!!. That's quite a bar bill. No wonder Adam is so bitter since he's not getting any of that. :lol:

If these MP's want to whinge about waste then perhaps they should buy their own beer like the rest of us!


£35k!!!! I wish!!!!!
http://www.merthyr.gov.uk/English/Counc ... PDF%2012KB).pdf and Merthyr pays more than other councils!!! :lol:


MP's expenses "cut back" :shock: to £23 MILLION per year. How many MP's are there again?

Re: £900 per week on benefits!!!!

Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:23 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Berwyn wrote:Your average politician claims expenses of around £35,000 per year EACH!!!. That's quite a bar bill. No wonder Adam is so bitter since he's not getting any of that. :lol:

If these MP's want to whinge about waste then perhaps they should buy their own beer like the rest of us!


£35k!!!! I wish!!!!!
http://www.merthyr.gov.uk/English/Counc ... PDF%2012KB).pdf and Merthyr pays more than other councils!!! :lol:


wow what a link


sorry: http://www.merthyr.gov.uk/English/Counc ... PDF%2012KB).pdf

Re: £900 per week on benefits!!!!

Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:24 pm

Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Berwyn wrote:Your average politician claims expenses of around £35,000 per year EACH!!!. That's quite a bar bill. No wonder Adam is so bitter since he's not getting any of that. :lol:

If these MP's want to whinge about waste then perhaps they should buy their own beer like the rest of us!


£35k!!!! I wish!!!!!
http://www.merthyr.gov.uk/English/Counc ... PDF%2012KB).pdf and Merthyr pays more than other councils!!! :lol:


wow what a link


sorry: http://www.merthyr.gov.uk/English/Counc ... PDF%2012KB).pdf


try again

Re: £900 per week on benefits!!!!

Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:24 pm

So this family who have worked all their life have 4 kids one or both parents lose their jobs and are now reliant on the state. what happens to the 2 unfortunate kids who are surplus??

Re: £900 per week on benefits!!!!

Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:25 pm

Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Berwyn wrote:Your average politician claims expenses of around £35,000 per year EACH!!!. That's quite a bar bill. No wonder Adam is so bitter since he's not getting any of that. :lol:

If these MP's want to whinge about waste then perhaps they should buy their own beer like the rest of us!


£35k!!!! I wish!!!!!
http://www.merthyr.gov.uk/English/Counc ... PDF%2012KB).pdf and Merthyr pays more than other councils!!! :lol:


wow what a link


sorry: http://www.merthyr.gov.uk/English/Counc ... PDF%2012KB).pdf


Do you want PC lessons? I won't charge much and you can off set the cost against expenses! :lol:

Re: £900 per week on benefits!!!!

Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:25 pm

splottbluebird48 wrote:So this family who have worked all their life have 4 kids one or both parents lose their jobs and are now reliant on the state. what happens to the 2 unfortunate kids who are surplus??


Theres a limit to how many you can claim for. Is that so hard for you to understand..?

Re: £900 per week on benefits!!!!

Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:26 pm

Berwyn wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Berwyn wrote:Your average politician claims expenses of around £35,000 per year EACH!!!. That's quite a bar bill. No wonder Adam is so bitter since he's not getting any of that. :lol:

If these MP's want to whinge about waste then perhaps they should buy their own beer like the rest of us!


£35k!!!! I wish!!!!!
http://www.merthyr.gov.uk/English/Counc ... PDF%2012KB).pdf and Merthyr pays more than other councils!!! :lol:


wow what a link


sorry: http://www.merthyr.gov.uk/English/Counc ... PDF%2012KB).pdf


Do you want PC lessons? I won't charge much and you can off set the cost against expenses! :lol:


Not really just proving the Fact rather than untruths coming from yourself.