Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:37 pm
JONNY012697 wrote:Military Junta wrote:Should be 2 kids max, any others then youpay for them yourself.
Your kids should be your responsiblity not everyone elses!!!
again another idiotic speech from Adam
Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:43 pm
Military Junta wrote:JONNY012697 wrote:Military Junta wrote:Should be 2 kids max, any others then youpay for them yourself.
Your kids should be your responsiblity not everyone elses!!!
again another idiotic speech from Adam
No not really as its very similar to what Ian Duncan Smith has recently stated and he has been praised by all sides of the House of Commons for his research on the subject
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... efits.html
Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:47 pm
JONNY012697 wrote:Military Junta wrote:JONNY012697 wrote:Military Junta wrote:Should be 2 kids max, any others then youpay for them yourself.
Your kids should be your responsiblity not everyone elses!!!
again another idiotic speech from Adam
No not really as its very similar to what Ian Duncan Smith has recently stated and he has been praised by all sides of the House of Commons for his research on the subject
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... efits.html
is it being praised really?
why would you want to punish children who cant work? what are they supposed to do live on the streets sorry your the third kid how about a massive increase in the abortion rate (which this country would have to pay for) because they got pregnant for the third time knowing this country wont support them.
this policy assumes once you stop working you will never work again or have never worked. Its typical of the Conservatives that dont realise what the real word is like
Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:52 pm
Military Junta wrote:JONNY012697 wrote:Military Junta wrote:JONNY012697 wrote:Military Junta wrote:Should be 2 kids max, any others then youpay for them yourself.
Your kids should be your responsiblity not everyone elses!!!
again another idiotic speech from Adam
No not really as its very similar to what Ian Duncan Smith has recently stated and he has been praised by all sides of the House of Commons for his research on the subject
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... efits.html
is it being praised really?
why would you want to punish children who cant work? what are they supposed to do live on the streets sorry your the third kid how about a massive increase in the abortion rate (which this country would have to pay for) because they got pregnant for the third time knowing this country wont support them.
this policy assumes once you stop working you will never work again or have never worked. Its typical of the Conservatives that dont realise what the real word is like
'HE' is being praised!!!
Whatever has happened topersonal responsibility on this country..? If you cant afford children then put something on the end of it then!!!
Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:53 pm
splottbluebird48 wrote:Military Junta wrote:JONNY012697 wrote:Military Junta wrote:JONNY012697 wrote:Military Junta wrote:Should be 2 kids max, any others then youpay for them yourself.
Your kids should be your responsiblity not everyone elses!!!
again another idiotic speech from Adam
No not really as its very similar to what Ian Duncan Smith has recently stated and he has been praised by all sides of the House of Commons for his research on the subject
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... efits.html
is it being praised really?
why would you want to punish children who cant work? what are they supposed to do live on the streets sorry your the third kid how about a massive increase in the abortion rate (which this country would have to pay for) because they got pregnant for the third time knowing this country wont support them.
this policy assumes once you stop working you will never work again or have never worked. Its typical of the Conservatives that dont realise what the real word is like
'HE' is being praised!!!
Whatever has happened topersonal responsibility on this country..? If you cant afford children then put something on the end of it then!!!
Whichever way you put it you are agreeing with communist China that you want social engineering![]()
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Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:54 pm
Military Junta wrote:JONNY012697 wrote:Military Junta wrote:JONNY012697 wrote:Military Junta wrote:Should be 2 kids max, any others then youpay for them yourself.
Your kids should be your responsiblity not everyone elses!!!
again another idiotic speech from Adam
No not really as its very similar to what Ian Duncan Smith has recently stated and he has been praised by all sides of the House of Commons for his research on the subject
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... efits.html
is it being praised really?
why would you want to punish children who cant work? what are they supposed to do live on the streets sorry your the third kid how about a massive increase in the abortion rate (which this country would have to pay for) because they got pregnant for the third time knowing this country wont support them.
this policy assumes once you stop working you will never work again or have never worked. Its typical of the Conservatives that dont realise what the real word is like
'HE' is being praised!!!
Whatever has happened topersonal responsibility on this country..? If you cant afford children then put something on the end of it then!!!
Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:55 pm
Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:56 pm
Military Junta wrote:JONNY012697 wrote:Military Junta wrote:Should be 2 kids max, any others then youpay for them yourself.
Your kids should be your responsiblity not everyone elses!!!
again another idiotic speech from Adam
No not really as its very similar to what Ian Duncan Smith has recently stated and he has been praised by all sides of the House of Commons for his research on the subject
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... efits.html
Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:59 pm
Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:59 pm
sleepers wrote:Military Junta wrote:sleepers wrote:Military Junta wrote:Should be 2 kids max, any others then youpay for them yourself.
Your kids should be your responsiblity not everyone elses!!!
so what happens if a man has been employed for a firm for 20 years paid contributions
then is firm goes bust,and he has 4 kids,what you want him to do sell 2.
No max 2 kids you get benefit for, simple really.
no wonder you never made it as a politician
Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:01 pm
Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:03 pm
64JACK wrote:sleepers wrote:Military Junta wrote:sleepers wrote:Military Junta wrote:Should be 2 kids max, any others then youpay for them yourself.
Your kids should be your responsiblity not everyone elses!!!
so what happens if a man has been employed for a firm for 20 years paid contributions
then is firm goes bust,and he has 4 kids,what you want him to do sell 2.
No max 2 kids you get benefit for, simple really.
no wonder you never made it as a politician
Innit! I have never heard so much bollocks come from the mouth/fingers from someone involved in politics! What happens to the other children above 2? Do they starve to death?![]()
I can just imagine Cameron coming out with this in prime ministers question time! He'd be forced to retire by the end of the day!
Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:08 pm
Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:08 pm
JONNY012697 wrote:Bluetwin wrote:splottbluebird48 wrote:Military Junta wrote:splottbluebird48 wrote:Military Junta wrote:Channel 5 now!!!
Which is appalling do you say the same about Tax dodgers?
yeah and your point being..?
Point being are you shocked as much if its people cheating tax?
Yes. Just as shocked.
Too many indolent lazy good for f**k all wasters are being given too much money!
The programme is about that tonight!
It may be tax dodgers another time.
Dont understand your point she has 11 kids no she doesnt work on that she should be punished maybe but 11 kids need feeding and a roof over their head something this country is responsible for, every family working or not working receives child benefit, I cant imagine £900 goes far when feeding 11 kids every week and why call the kids benefit scroungers most of them are not able to work because of their age cant really blame them for not working.
Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:16 pm
Military Junta wrote:64JACK wrote:sleepers wrote:Military Junta wrote:sleepers wrote:Military Junta wrote:Should be 2 kids max, any others then youpay for them yourself.
Your kids should be your responsiblity not everyone elses!!!
so what happens if a man has been employed for a firm for 20 years paid contributions
then is firm goes bust,and he has 4 kids,what you want him to do sell 2.
No max 2 kids you get benefit for, simple really.
no wonder you never made it as a politician
Innit! I have never heard so much bollocks come from the mouth/fingers from someone involved in politics! What happens to the other children above 2? Do they starve to death?![]()
I can just imagine Cameron coming out with this in prime ministers question time! He'd be forced to retire by the end of the day!
IDS has already set-up a similar system FFS!!!Don't really follow politics do you..? No wonder Wales is fucked
Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:16 pm
Willy the Wombat wrote:JONNY012697 wrote:Bluetwin wrote:splottbluebird48 wrote:Military Junta wrote:splottbluebird48 wrote:Military Junta wrote:Channel 5 now!!!
Which is appalling do you say the same about Tax dodgers?
yeah and your point being..?
Point being are you shocked as much if its people cheating tax?
Yes. Just as shocked.
Too many indolent lazy good for f**k all wasters are being given too much money!
The programme is about that tonight!
It may be tax dodgers another time.
Dont understand your point she has 11 kids no she doesnt work on that she should be punished maybe but 11 kids need feeding and a roof over their head something this country is responsible for, every family working or not working receives child benefit, I cant imagine £900 goes far when feeding 11 kids every week and why call the kids benefit scroungers most of them are not able to work because of their age cant really blame them for not working.
Come on Johnny, 11 kids for fucks sake. The woman should be put down for being a fecking idiot or given a free subscription to CCMB so the slipper wearing guardian reading sheep can chip in a few quid to "keep" her in the manner she's accustomed to. What the f**k has happened in Wales to have all this fecking bollocks Eh! I was brought up by my grandparents and one of the things I was taught, ney learned that avoiding paying tax was the prime directive, cash in hand when one could get it. Claiming "benefits" from the government was very, very much frowned upon. In fact when they had both passed, turned out that were entitled to thousands of unpaid benefit money that they'd never claimed or wished to. This sniveling, groveling attitude by, largely those who profess to be left, sickens me. Lastly the Country is not responsible for oiks breeding habits, they want to breed like pigs, let them live like pigs.
Rant over, well not quite.
Free Education for all should be top priority, take a leaf out of the ex socialist countries whereby everyone had a free education be it a nuclear scientist, a doctor, a bricklayer, waiter, labourer, whatever. Everyone was educated by the State and although there was a lot wrong with the system, corruption largely, it did work.
Most other countries I've lived in also have a genuinely free health care system, UK probably the most expensive pile of shite I've ever encountered, got to be up there with the yanks system as the worst in the world. Yes we (well you, I don't live in UK anymore) do have some of the some of greatest health care workers in the world, be it doctors, nurses, surgeons, para medics, ambulance drivers, great caring people. The whole system is run by complete and utter idiots though which is not sad it's worse. Unfortunately most such idiots infest football message boards.
Rant now over.
Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:16 pm
splottbluebird48 wrote:do you masturbate over photos of IDS to save having children
Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:18 pm
Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:19 pm
64JACK wrote:Military Junta wrote:64JACK wrote:sleepers wrote:Military Junta wrote:sleepers wrote:Military Junta wrote:Should be 2 kids max, any others then youpay for them yourself.
Your kids should be your responsiblity not everyone elses!!!
so what happens if a man has been employed for a firm for 20 years paid contributions
then is firm goes bust,and he has 4 kids,what you want him to do sell 2.
No max 2 kids you get benefit for, simple really.
no wonder you never made it as a politician
Innit! I have never heard so much bollocks come from the mouth/fingers from someone involved in politics! What happens to the other children above 2? Do they starve to death?![]()
I can just imagine Cameron coming out with this in prime ministers question time! He'd be forced to retire by the end of the day!
IDS has already set-up a similar system FFS!!!Don't really follow politics do you..? No wonder Wales is fucked
Adam, No I don't normally follow politics, but is that seriously a reason as to why Wales is fucked? ...........So your point is?
I don't deny IDS (sounds like a disease) may have set up a similar system, it would not suprise me. But the whole crux of your arguement fell apart at the very beginning when you stated even if someone had worked for 20 years and had 4 kids they would only be able to claim for 2 should they fall out of employment!!!!!!!!!! Staggering!
Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:21 pm
Berwyn wrote:Your average politician claims expenses of around £35,000 per year EACH!!!. That's quite a bar bill. No wonder Adam is so bitter since he's not getting any of that.![]()
If these MP's want to whinge about waste then perhaps they should buy their own beer like the rest of us!
Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:22 pm
Military Junta wrote:64JACK wrote:Military Junta wrote:64JACK wrote:sleepers wrote:Military Junta wrote:sleepers wrote:Military Junta wrote:Should be 2 kids max, any others then youpay for them yourself.
Your kids should be your responsiblity not everyone elses!!!
so what happens if a man has been employed for a firm for 20 years paid contributions
then is firm goes bust,and he has 4 kids,what you want him to do sell 2.
No max 2 kids you get benefit for, simple really.
no wonder you never made it as a politician
Innit! I have never heard so much bollocks come from the mouth/fingers from someone involved in politics! What happens to the other children above 2? Do they starve to death?![]()
I can just imagine Cameron coming out with this in prime ministers question time! He'd be forced to retire by the end of the day!
IDS has already set-up a similar system FFS!!!Don't really follow politics do you..? No wonder Wales is fucked
Adam, No I don't normally follow politics, but is that seriously a reason as to why Wales is fucked? ...........So your point is?
I don't deny IDS (sounds like a disease) may have set up a similar system, it would not suprise me. But the whole crux of your arguement fell apart at the very beginning when you stated even if someone had worked for 20 years and had 4 kids they would only be able to claim for 2 should they fall out of employment!!!!!!!!!! Staggering!
Yeah Wales would never survive alone because it would never be able to cover the benefit costs!!! FACT.
Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:22 pm
Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:23 pm
Military Junta wrote:Berwyn wrote:Your average politician claims expenses of around £35,000 per year EACH!!!. That's quite a bar bill. No wonder Adam is so bitter since he's not getting any of that.![]()
If these MP's want to whinge about waste then perhaps they should buy their own beer like the rest of us!
£35k!!!! I wish!!!!!
http://www.merthyr.gov.uk/English/Counc ... PDF%2012KB).pdf and Merthyr pays more than other councils!!!
Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:23 pm
Military Junta wrote:Berwyn wrote:Your average politician claims expenses of around £35,000 per year EACH!!!. That's quite a bar bill. No wonder Adam is so bitter since he's not getting any of that.![]()
If these MP's want to whinge about waste then perhaps they should buy their own beer like the rest of us!
£35k!!!! I wish!!!!!
http://www.merthyr.gov.uk/English/Counc ... PDF%2012KB).pdf and Merthyr pays more than other councils!!!
Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:23 pm
JONNY012697 wrote:Military Junta wrote:Berwyn wrote:Your average politician claims expenses of around £35,000 per year EACH!!!. That's quite a bar bill. No wonder Adam is so bitter since he's not getting any of that.![]()
If these MP's want to whinge about waste then perhaps they should buy their own beer like the rest of us!
£35k!!!! I wish!!!!!
http://www.merthyr.gov.uk/English/Counc ... PDF%2012KB).pdf and Merthyr pays more than other councils!!!
wow what a link
Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:24 pm
Military Junta wrote:JONNY012697 wrote:Military Junta wrote:Berwyn wrote:Your average politician claims expenses of around £35,000 per year EACH!!!. That's quite a bar bill. No wonder Adam is so bitter since he's not getting any of that.![]()
If these MP's want to whinge about waste then perhaps they should buy their own beer like the rest of us!
£35k!!!! I wish!!!!!
http://www.merthyr.gov.uk/English/Counc ... PDF%2012KB).pdf and Merthyr pays more than other councils!!!
wow what a link
sorry: http://www.merthyr.gov.uk/English/Counc ... PDF%2012KB).pdf
Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:24 pm
Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:25 pm
Military Junta wrote:JONNY012697 wrote:Military Junta wrote:Berwyn wrote:Your average politician claims expenses of around £35,000 per year EACH!!!. That's quite a bar bill. No wonder Adam is so bitter since he's not getting any of that.![]()
If these MP's want to whinge about waste then perhaps they should buy their own beer like the rest of us!
£35k!!!! I wish!!!!!
http://www.merthyr.gov.uk/English/Counc ... PDF%2012KB).pdf and Merthyr pays more than other councils!!!
wow what a link
sorry: http://www.merthyr.gov.uk/English/Counc ... PDF%2012KB).pdf
Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:25 pm
splottbluebird48 wrote:So this family who have worked all their life have 4 kids one or both parents lose their jobs and are now reliant on the state. what happens to the 2 unfortunate kids who are surplus??
Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:26 pm
Berwyn wrote:Military Junta wrote:JONNY012697 wrote:Military Junta wrote:Berwyn wrote:Your average politician claims expenses of around £35,000 per year EACH!!!. That's quite a bar bill. No wonder Adam is so bitter since he's not getting any of that.![]()
If these MP's want to whinge about waste then perhaps they should buy their own beer like the rest of us!
£35k!!!! I wish!!!!!
http://www.merthyr.gov.uk/English/Counc ... PDF%2012KB).pdf and Merthyr pays more than other councils!!!
wow what a link
sorry: http://www.merthyr.gov.uk/English/Counc ... PDF%2012KB).pdf
Do you want PC lessons? I won't charge much and you can off set the cost against expenses!