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Bit of over sensitivity in relation to "I don't have to sell my soul."

In my opinion, it simply means I don't have to just accept the rebrand, ie, 'I can register my disapproval.' One of the ways in which anyone can do this is to support Bluebirds Unite.

Not a big deal, unless of course some people feels it's a bit too close to the truth.

So you must believe that some people have sold their soul then?

Alf don't beat around the bush,say what you really think about fans who have accepted the rebranding and won't join bu

I'm really disappointed that any fans have 'accepted' or endorsed the rebrand (and lots have tbf) but do I think they've sold their souls?? I don't think anyone can physically sell something as intangible as a soul.

I'm glad you disagree with Bu on this.
maybe we'll see you running Bu one day.

I think that Sian and the committee are for the most part doing a fantastic job. They have my full backing and I genuinely can't see why anybody would seriously get hot under the collar at a statement like the one being discussed.

CESAR, all you've done on here since you joined is slag BU off, so I'm not surprised to hear that you've got negative views on this latest news.

If you're so against BU, I question why all you do is talk about them.

Bit of over sensitivity in relation to "I don't have to sell my soul."

In my opinion, it simply means I don't have to just accept the rebrand, ie, 'I can register my disapproval.' One of the ways in which anyone can do this is to support Bluebirds Unite.

Not a big deal, unless of course some people feels it's a bit too close to the truth.

So you must believe that some people have sold their soul then?

Alf don't beat around the bush,say what you really think about fans who have accepted the rebranding and won't join bu

I've read many of his most recent posts on here and they've all been sensible posts, which would have gone down well IMO with people who may have been standing on the fence!

However, I saw 3 of our fans wearing the same "Don't have to sell my soul" logos on white tee shirts after the Man City match in Leckwith, where it irked some of our other fans, who weren't even wearing anything red.

IMO, By wearing or carrying something with the "Don't have to sell my soul" logo on, is inferring that any of our fans that don't go along with BU's ethos, is a sell out and is going to cause a lot more discord!

Not a good decision in my book!

Buying a TShirt means you haven't sold your sole, cmon in seriously.
If you go to a game your the same as anyone else in the ground.

CA-CHING

Yes. All helps to the proceeds of protest.

It's not like anyone is forcing anyone to buy these items.

I won't be, rather my money goes into the club.

If it was to make the ground blue and the point was to get everyone wearing blue I think it's respect it more.

Bit of over sensitivity in relation to "I don't have to sell my soul."

In my opinion, it simply means I don't have to just accept the rebrand, ie, 'I can register my disapproval.' One of the ways in which anyone can do this is to support Bluebirds Unite.

Not a big deal, unless of course some people feels it's a bit too close to the truth.

So you must believe that some people have sold their soul then?

Alf don't beat around the bush,say what you really think about fans who have accepted the rebranding and won't join bu

I've read many of his most recent posts on here and they've all been sensible posts, which would have gone down well IMO with people who may have been standing on the fence!

However, I saw 3 of our fans wearing the same "Don't have to sell my soul" logos on white tee shirts after the Man City match in Leckwith, where it irked some of our other fans, who weren't even wearing anything red.

IMO, By wearing or carrying something with the "Don't have to sell my soul" logo on, is inferring that any of our fans that don't go along with BU's ethos, is a sell out and is going to cause a lot more discord!

Not a good decision in my book!

One could take the counter argument that supporters of rival clubs DO think and frequently suggest that Cardiff City fans have 'sold their soul.'

Now, what better way of showing your defiance (peacefully) by wearing a badge or tee shirt or whatever with the statement 'I don't have to sell my soul' on it?

ie, meaning that Cardiff may be red but we (the supporters) are still blue and haven't bought into Tans rebrand.

It's all about interpretations as far as I can see.

CESAR, all you've done on here since you joined is slag BU off, so I'm not surprised to hear that you've got negative views on this latest news.

If you're so against BU, I question why all you do is talk about them.

haven't you got another thread to derail

I won't be, rather my money goes into the club.

If it was to make the ground blue and the point was to get everyone wearing blue I think it's respect it more.

Oh well, many like myself wouldn't & these are and excellent alternative.

How do you know what the plans with the money are? Have you asked? Last I knew, it was to give out blue scarves - which would indeed get lots wearing blue... Would that be then worthy of your respect "2blue2handle"?

Bit of over sensitivity in relation to "I don't have to sell my soul."

In my opinion, it simply means I don't have to just accept the rebrand, ie, 'I can register my disapproval.' One of the ways in which anyone can do this is to support Bluebirds Unite.

Not a big deal, unless of course some people feels it's a bit too close to the truth.

So you must believe that some people have sold their soul then?

No, now I didn't say that at all.

I'm just questioning why some people get so worked up about it.

I know you didn't say it, but it certainly sounded like you were inferring that people had sold their soul, apologies if you didn't mean it, but people are free to choose to do what they want IMO, and if they don't find BU's ethos appealing, then they have a right to snub them!

As I've said before, if the club allowed us a poll as to which colour our team should play in, it's quite obvious that blue would walk it, however most of our fan base IMO, are too busy enjoying the football to worry about which colour our team play in!

Bit of over sensitivity in relation to "I don't have to sell my soul."

In my opinion, it simply means I don't have to just accept the rebrand, ie, 'I can register my disapproval.' One of the ways in which anyone can do this is to support Bluebirds Unite.

Not a big deal, unless of course some people feels it's a bit too close to the truth.

So you must believe that some people have sold their soul then?

Alf don't beat around the bush,say what you really think about fans who have accepted the rebranding and won't join bu

I've read many of his most recent posts on here and they've all been sensible posts, which would have gone down well IMO with people who may have been standing on the fence!

However, I saw 3 of our fans wearing the same "Don't have to sell my soul" logos on white tee shirts after the Man City match in Leckwith, where it irked some of our other fans, who weren't even wearing anything red.

IMO, By wearing or carrying something with the "Don't have to sell my soul" logo on, is inferring that any of our fans that don't go along with BU's ethos, is a sell out and is going to cause a lot more discord!

Not a good decision in my book!

Buying a TShirt means you haven't sold your sole, cmon in seriously.
If you go to a game your the same as anyone else in the ground.

Agreed, but the point I was making, is that the logo is going to alienate all the people, that BU are supposed to be trying to get onboard!

Whilst I like the t-shirt, I can see why it would alienate a lot of the fans who are unsure of BU.

Not the slogan I would have used personally, but those getting more worked up over this didn't get worked up over the colour change at all & that's daft.

Bit of over sensitivity in relation to "I don't have to sell my soul."

In my opinion, it simply means I don't have to just accept the rebrand, ie, 'I can register my disapproval.' One of the ways in which anyone can do this is to support Bluebirds Unite.

Not a big deal, unless of course some people feels it's a bit too close to the truth.

So you must believe that some people have sold their soul then?

Alf don't beat around the bush,say what you really think about fans who have accepted the rebranding and won't join bu

I've read many of his most recent posts on here and they've all been sensible posts, which would have gone down well IMO with people who may have been standing on the fence!

However, I saw 3 of our fans wearing the same "Don't have to sell my soul" logos on white tee shirts after the Man City match in Leckwith, where it irked some of our other fans, who weren't even wearing anything red.

IMO, By wearing or carrying something with the "Don't have to sell my soul" logo on, is inferring that any of our fans that don't go along with BU's ethos, is a sell out and is going to cause a lot more discord!

Not a good decision in my book!

One could take the counter argument that supporters of rival clubs DO think and frequently suggest that Cardiff City fans have 'sold their soul.'

Now, what better way of showing your defiance (peacefully) by wearing a badge or tee shirt or whatever with the statement 'I don't have to sell my soul' on it?

ie, meaning that Cardiff may be red but we (the supporters) are still blue and haven't bought into Tans rebrand.

It's all about interpretations as far as I can see.

You are right with your interpretations statement Alfie, but I can't see why any Cardiff fan should be worried or embarrassed by what any other team's fans are saying about us, as we were never bothered about them before!

IMO, the fight to get blue back is going to be seriously hampered by the logo we've discussed, which I think is a pity, considering all the other merchandise that is on sale, appears to be something that a lot of our fan base might consider buying otherwise!

It would be a wise move if Bu dropped the sell your soul slogan if they don't want to alienate potential new members

Last edited by CESAR on Wed Oct 02, 2013 6:57 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Bit of over sensitivity in relation to "I don't have to sell my soul."

In my opinion, it simply means I don't have to just accept the rebrand, ie, 'I can register my disapproval.' One of the ways in which anyone can do this is to support Bluebirds Unite.

Not a big deal, unless of course some people feels it's a bit too close to the truth.

So you must believe that some people have sold their soul then?

No, now I didn't say that at all.

I'm just questioning why some people get so worked up about it.

I know you didn't say it, but it certainly sounded like you were inferring that people had sold their soul, apologies if you didn't mean it, but people are free to choose to do what they want IMO, and if they don't find BU's ethos appealing, then they have a right to snub them!

As I've said before, if the club allowed us a poll as to which colour our team should play in, it's quite obvious that blue would walk it, however most of our fan base IMO, are too busy enjoying the football to worry about which colour our team play in!

Of course people have their right to snub BU and inevitably they won't please all of the people all of the time but, in my opinion, they've got an awful lot more right than they've got wrong.

I would urge anyone who has any desire to see our traditional home colours restored one day, to get along to a BU event and see for themselves. The people running the organisation are dedicated and passionate. I have been hugely impressed with the real integrity of those leading BU.

Whatever way we look at it, the manner in which the rebrand was executed (and continues to be executed at Cardiff City) is clumsy and pretty disrespectful to an established football club and it's supporters.

We have an owner who is (still) I believe going against the wishes of the majority by insisting the club play in red. Likewise, through accident or design, Vincent Tan is persisting in trying to eradicate the clubs traditional identity - frankly - by stealth.

BU are, in difficult circumstances, trying to peacefully oppose Tans cavalier behaviour. They are certainly not the bad guys in this whole sorry saga.

Bit of over sensitivity in relation to "I don't have to sell my soul."

In my opinion, it simply means I don't have to just accept the rebrand, ie, 'I can register my disapproval.' One of the ways in which anyone can do this is to support Bluebirds Unite.

Not a big deal, unless of course some people feels it's a bit too close to the truth.

So you must believe that some people have sold their soul then?

No, now I didn't say that at all.

I'm just questioning why some people get so worked up about it.

I know you didn't say it, but it certainly sounded like you were inferring that people had sold their soul, apologies if you didn't mean it, but people are free to choose to do what they want IMO, and if they don't find BU's ethos appealing, then they have a right to snub them!

As I've said before, if the club allowed us a poll as to which colour our team should play in, it's quite obvious that blue would walk it, however most of our fan base IMO, are too busy enjoying the football to worry about which colour our team play in!

Of course people have their right to snub BU and inevitably they won't please all of the people all of the time but, in my opinion, they've got an awful lot more right than they've got wrong.

I would urge anyone who has any desire to see our traditional home colours restored one day, to get along to a BU event and see for themselves. The people running the organisation are dedicated and passionate. I have been hugely impressed with the real integrity of those leading BU.

Whatever way we look at it, the manner in which the rebrand was executed (and continues to be executed at Cardiff City) is clumsy and pretty disrespectful to an established football club and it's supporters.

We have an owner who is (still) I believe going against the wishes of the majority by insisting the club play in red. Likewise, through accident or design, Vincent Tan is persisting in trying to eradicate the clubs traditional identity - frankly - by stealth.

BU are, in difficult circumstances, trying to peacefully oppose Tans cavalier behaviour. They are certainly not the bad guys in this whole sorry saga.

Bit of over sensitivity in relation to "I don't have to sell my soul."

In my opinion, it simply means I don't have to just accept the rebrand, ie, 'I can register my disapproval.' One of the ways in which anyone can do this is to support Bluebirds Unite.

Not a big deal, unless of course some people feels it's a bit too close to the truth.

So you must believe that some people have sold their soul then?

No, now I didn't say that at all.

I'm just questioning why some people get so worked up about it.

I know you didn't say it, but it certainly sounded like you were inferring that people had sold their soul, apologies if you didn't mean it, but people are free to choose to do what they want IMO, and if they don't find BU's ethos appealing, then they have a right to snub them!

As I've said before, if the club allowed us a poll as to which colour our team should play in, it's quite obvious that blue would walk it, however most of our fan base IMO, are too busy enjoying the football to worry about which colour our team play in!

Of course people have their right to snub BU and inevitably they won't please all of the people all of the time but, in my opinion, they've got an awful lot more right than they've got wrong.

I would urge anyone who has any desire to see our traditional home colours restored one day, to get along to a BU event and see for themselves. The people running the organisation are dedicated and passionate. I have been hugely impressed with the real integrity of those leading BU.

Whatever way we look at it, the manner in which the rebrand was executed (and continues to be executed at Cardiff City) is clumsy and pretty disrespectful to an established football club and it's supporters.

We have an owner who is (still) I believe going against the wishes of the majority by insisting the club play in red. Likewise, through accident or design, Vincent Tan is persisting in trying to eradicate the clubs traditional identity - frankly - by stealth.

BU are, in difficult circumstances, trying to peacefully oppose Tans cavalier behaviour. They are certainly not the bad guys in this whole sorry saga.

CESAR, all you've done on here since you joined is slag BU off, so I'm not surprised to hear that you've got negative views on this latest news.

If you're so against BU, I question why all you do is talk about them.

haven't you got another thread to derail

No answer then? It's quote bizarre.

Bit of over sensitivity in relation to "I don't have to sell my soul."

In my opinion, it simply means I don't have to just accept the rebrand, ie, 'I can register my disapproval.' One of the ways in which anyone can do this is to support Bluebirds Unite.

Not a big deal, unless of course some people feels it's a bit too close to the truth.

So you must believe that some people have sold their soul then?

Alf don't beat around the bush,say what you really think about fans who have accepted the rebranding and won't join bu

I've read many of his most recent posts on here and they've all been sensible posts, which would have gone down well IMO with people who may have been standing on the fence!

However, I saw 3 of our fans wearing the same "Don't have to sell my soul" logos on white tee shirts after the Man City match in Leckwith, where it irked some of our other fans, who weren't even wearing anything red.

IMO, By wearing or carrying something with the "Don't have to sell my soul" logo on, is inferring that any of our fans that don't go along with BU's ethos, is a sell out and is going to cause a lot more discord!

Not a good decision in my book!

One could take the counter argument that supporters of rival clubs DO think and frequently suggest that Cardiff City fans have 'sold their soul.'

Now, what better way of showing your defiance (peacefully) by wearing a badge or tee shirt or whatever with the statement 'I don't have to sell my soul' on it?

ie, meaning that Cardiff may be red but we (the supporters) are still blue and haven't bought into Tans rebrand.

It's all about interpretations as far as I can see.

You are right with your interpretations statement Alfie, but I can't see why any Cardiff fan should be worried or embarrassed by what any other team's fans are saying about us, as we were never bothered about them before!

IMO, the fight to get blue back is going to be seriously hampered by the logo we've discussed, which I think is a pity, considering all the other merchandise that is on sale, appears to be something that a lot of our fan base might consider buying otherwise!

Playing devils advocate to a degree but BU have to have a broad appeal - they need to appeal to those fervently anti the rebrand - boycotters etc (I know plenty of people who find their stance too weak!) all the way through to existing season ticket holders who are mildly frustrated at the rebrand and would ideally prefer to see blue.

BU is a broad church (it was always going to be so). My advice would be to just buy the BU gear with the message that resonates for you personally.

To reiterate an earlier point, I would recommend all Cardiff City fans who favour blue to actually attend some BU meetings and offer opinion and see for themselves. I think people will be pleasantly surprised

Fair play to Bluebirds Unite for what they are doing and big respect to the businesses for their support.

In my opinion it's a massive risk for those established businesses as they are clearly violating intellectual property by using the Bluebird on merchandise and could land themselves in a lot of trouble.

They must be really passionate about the Bluebirds Unite cause, to risk jeopardising their businesses.

Waiting for the slogans " we are not plastic fans" or "true Cardiff fans" to be used on badges, banners or tshirts!!

I won't be, rather my money goes into the club.

If it was to make the ground blue and the point was to get everyone wearing blue I think it's respect it more.

Oh well, many like myself wouldn't & these are and excellent alternative.

How do you know what the plans with the money are? Have you asked? Last I knew, it was to give out blue scarves - which would indeed get lots wearing blue... Would that be then worthy of your respect "2blue2handle"?

I thought stopping people selling blue items on the BU sites was truly pathetic tbh, I was all for a blue ground no matter where it came from.
I don't need a free scarf chuckles I have many and giving free blue scarfs out surely makes you as bad as tan who I'm sure you had a go out for doing so.
Let people where what they want.

As for the above threads I think BU are best at alienating fans, but then they are superior

The group is everything I dislike about modern football which is funny.

I thought stopping people selling blue items on the BU sites was truly pathetic tbh, I was all for a blue ground no matter where it came from.

if that happened, then yes - that was wrong.

I don't need a free scarf chuckles I have many and giving free blue scarfs out surely makes you as bad as tan who I'm sure you had a go out for doing so.

I had a go at him for trying to force his rebrand with free STs if you wore the red scarf... Surely you aren't having a to at Cardiff City supporters wanting to see the ground in blue?!

Let people where what they want.

Where are they forcing anyone to wear anything?

As for the above threads I think BU are best at alienating fans, but then they are superior

yet you haven't actually bothered to attend any events to confirm this idea..

The group is everything I dislike about modern football which is funny.

you hate the fact that a group of fans want blue back, yet your username is "2blue2handle"

What does...

Sunday
3Hundred
Bluebirds
Unite

...mean?

that's how many turned up for the march the man city game

Not the best marketing ploy to advertise the failure of the march!

What does...

Sunday
3Hundred
Bluebirds
Unite

...mean?

that's how many turned up for the march the man city game

Not the best marketing ploy to advertise the failure of the march!

Wasn't advertising the march against Man City

CA-CHING

That's exactly what Nike's lawyers will be thinking! I hope BU have deep pockets.

How's about a tee-shirt with the slogan

"I used to be blue
But now I'm red
I look like a tw*t
When I slap my head"

Should sell thousands of those!
I'd take a couple for certain!

How's about a tee-shirt with the slogan

"I used to be blue
But now I'm red
I look like a tw*t
When I slap my head"

Should sell thousands of those!
I'd take a couple for certain!

Wouldn't surprise me... You post on the Cardiff City forum, so a couple of t shirts about Cardiff would continue the obsession nicely...

Fair play to Bluebirds Unite for what they are doing and big respect to the businesses for their support.

In my opinion it's a massive risk for those established businesses as they are clearly violating intellectual property by using the Bluebird on merchandise and could land themselves in a lot of trouble.

They must be really passionate about the Bluebirds Unite cause, to risk jeopardising their businesses.

Oner signs are my mates and have been Bluebirds for decades, they also had something to do with drawing up our last proper badge to get it copyrighted, think they've got the original plans framed on their wall.

How's about a tee-shirt with the slogan

"I used to be blue
But now I'm red
I look like a tw*t
When I slap my head"

Should sell thousands of those!
I'd take a couple for certain!

Wouldn't surprise me... You post on the Cardiff City forum, so a couple of t shirts about Cardiff would continue the obsession nicely...

You're confusing obsession with amusement! Always a laugh to read your tunnel visioned posts

I'd say someone who posts on a rivals forum looking for bites is someone who is obsessed with their rivals.

I thought stopping people selling blue items on the BU sites was truly pathetic tbh, I was all for a blue ground no matter where it came from.

if that happened, then yes - that was wrong.

I don't need a free scarf chuckles I have many and giving free blue scarfs out surely makes you as bad as tan who I'm sure you had a go out for doing so.

I had a go at him for trying to force his rebrand with free STs if you wore the red scarf... Surely you aren't having a to at Cardiff City supporters wanting to see the ground in blue?!

So everyone who wants blue back should support BU? My god you chat some shit

Let people where what they want.

Where are they forcing anyone to wear anything?

As for the above threads I think BU are best at alienating fans, but then they are superior

yet you haven't actually bothered to attend any events to confirm this idea..

The group is everything I dislike about modern football which is funny.

you hate the fact that a group of fans want blue back, yet your username is "2blue2handle"

Nonsense I dislike BU.
I'd love a proper group to support to get us back to Blue who don't stink of self importance, can see why you like them tho chuckles.

Go cash in with the others

I'll just keep wearing my Blue and support the city thanks.