Chris Kamara

My only contribution to the stats/Medel defensive midfielder discussions:

You could argue that Canas has the advantage of players around him with more experience at this level, thus making themselves available to receive the ball more often and in better positions. I could therefore argue that Medel is better as he is in an inexperienced side at this level so his contribution is more impressive. Where are the stats for the number of passes to players with 2 or more years experience at Premier league level? Stats are interesting but are pretty black and white. Intelligence, experience, understanding and common sense are required when looking at them!

Britton had these stats in his first premier league season with nobody around him with any real prem experience.. Sinclair is the only that springs to mind. You have campbell, whittingham and bellamy.

I also think you wre doing a dis-service to the rest of your team by pretty much suggesting they are letting him down.

It's like talking to the wall mun. Swansea have been recognised since they got promoted to the championship as a team who has a system that relies on keeping the ball and playing the 'spanish' way. No one player is responsible for this but it was a system implemented by roberto martinez and it has been carried on by subsequent managers.

We were recognised for playing a bit more of a direct game to get out of the championship last year. Gary Medel has come in and is single handedly changing our style of play by bossing games pretty much on his own at times.

Canas or Britton wouldn't have been able to do this in their wildest dreams imo.

hope this helps.

We havent always played like this either. Britton was key into turning is into what we are now. Canas came in and has taken over the reigns seemlessly.

I still havent heard a reasonable explanation how someone can do less of the key roles involved in a position yet still be better on the basis "he just is". In my opinion its simply down to his price tag.

As for the other poster, this website isnt based in cardiff you know i can be anywhere and log on here, its a website. Ive proven i live here time and time again. If you dont believe me thats just your paranoia im afraid.

Now how about actually contributing to the thread?

I give up with you mate. I've seen plenty of good explanations in the last few days but if you are just going to ignore them just to suit your agenda it's pointless.

Bye bye

My only contribution to the stats/Medel defensive midfielder discussions:

You could argue that Canas has the advantage of players around him with more experience at this level, thus making themselves available to receive the ball more often and in better positions. I could therefore argue that Medel is better as he is in an inexperienced side at this level so his contribution is more impressive. Where are the stats for the number of passes to players with 2 or more years experience at Premier league level? Stats are interesting but are pretty black and white. Intelligence, experience, understanding and common sense are required when looking at them!

Britton had these stats in his first premier league season with nobody around him with any real prem experience.. Sinclair is the only that springs to mind. You have campbell, whittingham and bellamy.

I also think you wre doing a dis-service to the rest of your team by pretty much suggesting they are letting him down.

Key words emboldened for you. That's not what I AM saying, just illustrating how stats are just that - statistics. There are many factors that are not taken into consideration.

Statistically, you are probably a high contributor to this board. It is down to individual opinions and observations as to how valuable that contribution really is!

Roath Magic my arse. You only come on here because you support a hick town team and their forum is crap. Bottom line I wouldn't have Canas in our reserves, Metdel takes it every time. If you want to compare cost of players how about Cambell vs Bony who is a bit part sub. If you like stats compare their 'minutes on the pitch'.

And while we are on it where do you get off with 'Roath' magic. If you were from Roath you'd support city and you can't be because there are no Gypo sites in Roath.

Pathetic little man.

Exhibit B.

Im not from Roath but lived there for a large portion of my life. Im more than happy to do a Bony v Campbell thread if you like and i am pretty sure it will be favourable to Bony when he actually starts games.

Canas is outperforming Medel, thats a fact. If you wish to dismiss it then thats up to you.

I would imagine you are more than happy to do a player by player comparison on the entire playing population of the football leagues. Perhaps you should get out more. Try watching a few games and forming an opinion on reality. Better still get out and play a couple of games yourself and you may begin to understand a little more about football. As people have said on here many times, the proof is in what you see not the stats, Medel is far superior to Canas.

Exhibit A for the defence - a keyboard warrior obsessed with statistics about a game he patently doesn't understand and if you actually live in Australia is observing from thousands of miles away. Obviously the streets are not paved with gold over there or are the Australian boys just a little too rough for you to play with. You've chosen to emigrate, why not take a look at the life offered over there instead of fixating on what is happening over here.

If you understood what Cardiff City is about and what Malky is doing you would realise that it is not about individuals. He is building a team, he has spent his money ensuring we are competitive, once we have consolidated he will spend his next money on adding more flair. We will be in the Prem long after Swansea's bubble has burst and they are back at their natural level in League 2.

Perhaps you should now begin concentrating on examining the stats of Aussie rules teams, you probably don't understand that either and have almost definitely never played it therefore you will be in your keyboard element.

Thats usually the party line used. Ive seen no explanation, you can bury your head as much as you like but there is no reasonable explanation to Medel outperforming Canas at the moment at all. You can say hes carrying the team if you like but that doesnt detract from the fact Canas is performing his key duties better.

Roath Magic my arse. You only come on here because you support a hick town team and their forum is crap. Bottom line I wouldn't have Canas in our reserves, Metdel takes it every time. If you want to compare cost of players how about Cambell vs Bony who is a bit part sub. If you like stats compare their 'minutes on the pitch'.

And while we are on it where do you get off with 'Roath' magic. If you were from Roath you'd support city and you can't be because there are no Gypo sites in Roath.

Pathetic little man.

Exhibit B.

Im not from Roath but lived there for a large portion of my life. Im more than happy to do a Bony v Campbell thread if you like and i am pretty sure it will be favourable to Bony when he actually starts games.

Canas is outperforming Medel, thats a fact. If you wish to dismiss it then thats up to you.

Bloody hell yes, I can place you now. There was a small Gypo encampment in the demolished buildings in Vere Street for a while a few years back.

Roath Magic my arse. You only come on here because you support a hick town team and their forum is crap. Bottom line I wouldn't have Canas in our reserves, Metdel takes it every time. If you want to compare cost of players how about Cambell vs Bony who is a bit part sub. If you like stats compare their 'minutes on the pitch'.

And while we are on it where do you get off with 'Roath' magic. If you were from Roath you'd support city and you can't be because there are no Gypo sites in Roath.

Pathetic little man.

Exhibit B.

Im not from Roath but lived there for a large portion of my life. Im more than happy to do a Bony v Campbell thread if you like and i am pretty sure it will be favourable to Bony when he actually starts games.

Canas is outperforming Medel, thats a fact. If you wish to dismiss it then thats up to you.

I would imagine you are more than happy to do a player by player comparison on the entire playing population of the football leagues. Perhaps you should get out more. Try watching a few games and forming an opinion on reality. Better still get out and play a couple of games yourself and you may begin to understand a little more about football. As people have said on here many times, the proof is in what you see not the stats, Medel is far superior to Canas.

okay well ignoring your silly suppositions and waffle, you have made a statement there..... You have used your eyes to deduce Medel is FAR superior to Canas. Okay well then explain in what way?

Exhibit A for the defence - a keyboard warrior obsessed with statistics about a game he patently doesn't understand and if you actually live in Australia is observing from thousands of miles away. Obviously the streets are not paved with gold over there or are the Australian boys just a little too rough for you to play with. You've chosen to emigrate, why not take a look at the life offered over there instead of fixating on what is happening over here.

i dont even understand what this means? Because i live in australia i should give up watching football?

Wtf

If you understood what Cardiff City is about and what Malky is doing you would realise that it is not about individuals. He is building a team, he has spent his money ensuring we are competitive, once we have consolidated he will spend his next money on adding more flair. We will be in the Prem long after Swansea's bubble has burst and they are back at their natural level in League 2.

what are you even talking about? This isnt about malkys ethos.

Perhaps you should now begin concentrating on examining the stats of Aussie rules teams, you probably don't understand that either and have almost definitely never played it therefore you will be in your keyboard element.

more supposition and rubbish. Instead of making things up to try and provoke, how about actually forming an opinion of value.

You can start with the question in paragraph 1

Last edited by RoathMagic on Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:32 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Thats usually the party line used. Ive seen no explanation, you can bury your head as much as you like but there is no reasonable explanation to Medel outperforming Canas at the moment at all. You can say hes carrying the team if you like but that doesnt detract from the fact Canas is performing his key duties better.

You can talk about 'party lines' as much as you want but anyone who has spent time on here since thursday onward will know I'm talking the truth and you are just being an argumentative idiot

Thats usually the party line used. Ive seen no explanation, you can bury your head as much as you like but there is no reasonable explanation to Medel outperforming Canas at the moment at all. You can say hes carrying the team if you like but that doesnt detract from the fact Canas is performing his key duties better.

You can talk about 'party lines' as much as you want but anyone who has spent time on here since thursday onward will know I'm talking the truth and you are just being an argumentative idiot

Im not at all, thats another larty line used when someone cannot combat a point made.

I have an opinion that has proven unpopular which is understandable as hes your most expensive player. Im not arguing in the slightest, in fact it is you calling the names. Ive given my opinion and backed it with fact. All ive asked for is a sensible retort from the opposite opinion and have read nothing at all other than "i use my eyes".... Well what are thise eyes seeing that Medel does better than Canas when Canas performs his roles more efficiently?

Roath Magic my arse. You only come on here because you support a hick town team and their forum is crap. Bottom line I wouldn't have Canas in our reserves, Metdel takes it every time. If you want to compare cost of players how about Cambell vs Bony who is a bit part sub. If you like stats compare their 'minutes on the pitch'.

And while we are on it where do you get off with 'Roath' magic. If you were from Roath you'd support city and you can't be because there are no Gypo sites in Roath.

Pathetic little man.

Exhibit B.

Im not from Roath but lived there for a large portion of my life. Im more than happy to do a Bony v Campbell thread if you like and i am pretty sure it will be favourable to Bony when he actually starts games.

Canas is outperforming Medel, thats a fact. If you wish to dismiss it then thats up to you.

I would imagine you are more than happy to do a player by player comparison on the entire playing population of the football leagues. Perhaps you should get out more. Try watching a few games and forming an opinion on reality. Better still get out and play a couple of games yourself and you may begin to understand a little more about football. As people have said on here many times, the proof is in what you see not the stats, Medel is far superior to Canas.

okay well ignoring your silly suppositions and waffle, you have made a statement there..... You have used your eyes to deduce Medel is FAR superior to Canas. Okay well then explain in what way?

Exhibit A for the defence - a keyboard warrior obsessed with statistics about a game he patently doesn't understand and if you actually live in Australia is observing from thousands of miles away. Obviously the streets are not paved with gold over there or are the Australian boys just a little too rough for you to play with. You've chosen to emigrate, why not take a look at the life offered over there instead of fixating on what is happening over here.

i dont even understand what this means? Because i live in australia i should give up watching football?

Wtf

If you understood what Cardiff City is about and what Malky is doing you would realise that it is not about individuals. He is building a team, he has spent his money ensuring we are competitive, once we have consolidated he will spend his next money on adding more flair. We will be in the Prem long after Swansea's bubble has burst and they are back at their natural level in League 2.

what are you even talking about? This isnt about malkys ethos.

Perhaps you should now begin concentrating on examining the stats of Aussie rules teams, you probably don't understand that either and have almost definitely never played it therefore you will be in your keyboard element.

more supposition and rubbish. Instead of making things up to try and provoke, how about actually forming an opinion of value.

You can start with the question in paragraph 1

Hahahahahahahaha "Instead of making things up to try and provoke, how about actually forming an opinion of value. "

Very, very good. I see you completely ignored my comments regarding your credentials to make any sensible comments. You are a keyboard warrior that probably never leaves the house. Winding people up on forums is about as exciting as it gets for you. I bet you re-read these threads as you and your sister are tossing each other off. TBH, yes, I don't think you should be following football. Have you considered war gaming?

Chris Kamara was in awe of Gary Medel. We've got ourselves one or the best defensive midfielders in the world. His stats yesterday was probably a new premier league record

Kammy also said about our immense support. No wonder the obsessed weirdo is getting angrier by the day

Hahahahahahahaha "Instead of making things up to try and provoke, how about actually forming an opinion of value. "

Very, very good. I see you completely ignored my comments regarding your credentials to make any sensible comments. You are a keyboard warrior that probably never leaves the house. Winding people up on forums is about as exciting as it gets for you. I bet you re-read these threads as you and your sister are tossing each other off. TBH, yes, I don't think you should be following football. Have you considered war gaming?

Of course i ignored it, you dont know me. Its about as valuable a statement as me saying "your a transvestite with webbed feet and have never watched a game of football in your life"... Its clearly a made up assumption and worthless to any sort of debate.

Now then, back tot he thread... In what way is Medel WAY better than Canas, what has your eyes told you that makes the statistics wrong?

Interesting....

Chris Kamara was in awe of Gary Medel. We've got ourselves one or the best defensive midfielders in the world. His stats yesterday was probably a new premier league record

Kammy also said about our immense support. No wonder the obsessed weirdo is getting angrier by the day

the oracle Chris Kamara eh? Gutting.

Chris Kamara was in awe of Gary Medel. We've got ourselves one or the best defensive midfielders in the world. His stats yesterday was probably a new premier league record

Kammy also said about our immense support. No wonder the obsessed weirdo is getting angrier by the day

the oracle Chris Kamara eh? Gutting.

Would you say you're a better judge of player than Chris Kamara?

Would you say you're a better judge of player than Chris Kamara?

I dont know him so cant say for sure but id back myself yes. I dont subscribe to the fact that someone is on telly so must know more.... See jamie "swansea top 4" redknapp or paul "pascal cygan best defender in europe" merson for suitable examples

Hahahahahahahaha "Instead of making things up to try and provoke, how about actually forming an opinion of value. "

Very, very good. I see you completely ignored my comments regarding your credentials to make any sensible comments. You are a keyboard warrior that probably never leaves the house. Winding people up on forums is about as exciting as it gets for you. I bet you re-read these threads as you and your sister are tossing each other off. TBH, yes, I don't think you should be following football. Have you considered war gaming?

Of course i ignored it, you dont know me. Its about as valuable a statement as me saying "your a transvestite with webbed feet and have never watched a game of football in your life"... Its clearly a made up assumption and worthless to any sort of debate.

Now then, back tot he thread... In what way is Medel WAY better than Canas, what has your eyes told you that makes the statistics wrong?

Interesting....

Medel controls the game, end of argument. Now, I'd love to continue this riveting conversation with you but unfortunately you'll have to get your kicks elsewhere because unlike you, I have to go out. It is however very amusing that you think your transparent trolling attempt is fooling anyone. You have totally and repeatedly ignored all the sensible answers to your provocative comments and just go off on another tack to try and draw someone else in.... pathetic, but if it gives you a hard on carry on. Please though.... consider going outside the front door.... go on try it.

Medel controls the game, end of argument. Now, I'd love to continue this riveting conversation with you but unfortunately you'll have to get your kicks elsewhere because unlike you, I have to go out. It is however very amusing that you think your transparent trolling attempt is fooling anyone. You have totally and repeatedly ignored all the sensible answers to your provocative comments and just go off on another tack to try and draw someone else in.... pathetic, but if it gives you a hard on carry on. Please though.... consider going outside the front door.... go on try it.

So does Canas

Thats like saying Messi is better than Ronaldo because he scores goals. Its silly and of no substance.

I will continue to ignore your school yard goading

Another fallacy is that if you call someone an idiot you are somehow losing the argument.

The fact is, people like barnett and your good self drain me to the point that I think life's not worth living anymore. No offence but if I saw you out I probably wouldn't even contemplate having a conversation with you!

But I will humour you with my final answer on the subject.

I watched both games yesterday and the difference between medel and canas was plain for all to see.

I'm not one eyed to dismiss that swansea play a much more fluid and perhaps attractive style of football than us at present and there were times yesterday when I was screaming at our players "give him an option" when medel had the ball yet he managed to manouvre himself out of trouble and still find a red shirt.

I watched canas prancing round like a scruffy c**t trying to bring crusty the clowns hairstyle into fashion and being taught a lesson of how to play football by arsenals midfield and he just looked a pale shadow in comparison.

Now another thing gary has which neither britton or canas has got is leadership qualities. It's hard to put your finger on and I don't expect you to understand it cos it cant be measured by your computer.

I've often discussed this phenomenon with my mates and there are only a handful of players who have got it.

Patrick Vieira, Steven Gerard, Maradona (perhaps to a lesser extent) schweinsteiger, Roy Keane, just to name a few.

Now if you look at Britton's stats compared to Roy Keane, britton would probably come out on top, but even the most one eyed jack would concede that britton is not in the same league as keane and if they did they would be labelled the village idiot.

in the short time Medel has been with us, we have seen him carry the team when the chips are down on more than one occasion and this is a major quality that britton, canas and very few midfielders possess.

I'm not gonna say anymore on the subject cos I'm honestly bored shitless with it now.

bye bye

Another fallacy is that if you call someone an idiot you are somehow losing the argument.

i didnt say you list the argument because of that, it just shows a limited vocabulary. Your lack of any substance to your opinion is what i feel makes you lose the debate. You havent told me one way in which he is performing better than canas.

The fact is, people like barnett and your good self drain me to the point that I think life's not worth living anymore. No offence but if I saw you out I probably wouldn't even contemplate having a conversation with you!

so you wouldnt have a converstation with me? Okay

But I will humour you with my final answer on the subject.

I watched both games yesterday and the difference between medel and canas was plain for all to see.

well canas was playing against worth more than the Fulham team so i wouldn't expect any different to be honest. Although i think they were very similar performances.

I'm not one eyed to dismiss that swansea play a much more fluid and perhaps attractive style of football than us at present and there were times yesterday when I was screaming at our players "give him an option" when medel had the ball yet he managed to manouvre himself out of trouble and still find a red shirt.

I watched canas prancing round like a scruffy c**t trying to bring crusty the clowns hairstyle into fashion and being taught a lesson of how to play football by arsenals midfield and he just looked a pale shadow in comparison.

the fact you have to refer to his hairstyle tells you all you need to know. You havent explained why you dont think he played aswell. Passing? Tacking? What? Because he rarely gave the ball away, tackles successfully and got out attacks going. Asnyou can imagine the stats back me up.

Now another thing gary has which neither britton or canas has got is leadership qualities. It's hard to put your finger on and I don't expect you to understand it cos it cant be measured by your computer.

so you think a man who cant speak the same language as his players and thus not able to communicate has more leadership qualities that canas who was club captain at Real Betis? Im afraid thats as ine eyed as you can get.

I've often discussed this phenomenon with my mates and there are only a handful of players who have got it.

Patrick Vieira, Steven Gerard, Maradona (perhaps to a lesser extent) schweinsteiger, Roy Keane, just to name a few.

Now if you look at Britton's stats compared to Roy Keane, britton would probably come out on top, but even the most one eyed jack would concede that britton is not in the same league as keane and if they did they would be labelled the village idiot.

im pretty confident britton would not have better stats than Roy Keane whi was a threat in attack and in defence.

in the short time Medel has been with us, we have seen him carry the team when the chips are down on more than one occasion and this is a major quality that britton, canas and very few midfielders possess.

how do you know this? Canas has lead our team to as many victories as you guys and has better stats to boot

I'm not gonna say anymore on the subject cos I'm honestly bored shitless with it now.

bye bye

so you still havent given me an opinion other than canas has funny hair and medel is better "coz he is"

Great

Gary Medal has played over 70 games at international level, 15 at U20, 8 at U23 and 54 at senior level where he has scored 4 goals. Jose Canas has not represented Spain at any level. Gary Medal was a member of the Chilian U20 team that finished 3rd in the 2007 FIFA U20 World Cup.


Gary Medal appeared in 78 La Liga games, scoring 8 goals, in less than two season whilst Jose Canas appeared in only 66 La Liga games, scoring no goals, in 3 seasons.


Gary Medal has also played 47 games for Boca Juniors, scoring 7 goals, in a little over 18 months. In comparison Canas played mainly in the lower regions of the Spanish football pyramid in the Betis youth teams.


Despite being born a little over 12 weeks apart Gary Medal has been playing at the top level in Argentina, Spain, PL and of course in international stage for over 6 years whilst Canas become a first team regular in Spain less than 2 years ago.


I think that sets out which player has the higher "Pedigree".

Gary Medal has played over 70 games at international level, 15 at U20, 8 at U23 and 54 at senior level where he has scored 4 goals. Jose Canas has not represented Spain at any level. Gary Medal was a member of the Chilian U20 team that finished 3rd in the 2007 FIFA U20 World Cup.


Gary Medal appeared in 78 La Liga games, scoring 8 goals, in less than two season whilst Jose Canas appeared in only 66 La Liga games, scoring no goals, in 3 seasons.


Gary Medal has also played 47 games for Boca Juniors, scoring 7 goals, in a little over 18 months. In comparison Canas played mainly in the lower regions of the Spanish football pyramid in the Betis youth teams.


Despite being born a little over 12 weeks apart Gary Medal has been playing at the top level in Argentina, Spain, PL and of course in international stage for over 6 years whilst Canas become a first team regular in Spain less than 2 years ago.


I think that sets out which player has the higher "Pedigree".

He most certainly does have a better pedigree, as does Torres over Benteke... But Benteke is performing much better and is the better player at the moment.

And lets not pretend that if Medel was Spanish hed have international caps.

Gary Medal has played over 70 games at international level, 15 at U20, 8 at U23 and 54 at senior level where he has scored 4 goals. Jose Canas has not represented Spain at any level. Gary Medal was a member of the Chilian U20 team that finished 3rd in the 2007 FIFA U20 World Cup.


Gary Medal appeared in 78 La Liga games, scoring 8 goals, in less than two season whilst Jose Canas appeared in only 66 La Liga games, scoring no goals, in 3 seasons.


Gary Medal has also played 47 games for Boca Juniors, scoring 7 goals, in a little over 18 months. In comparison Canas played mainly in the lower regions of the Spanish football pyramid in the Betis youth teams.


Despite being born a little over 12 weeks apart Gary Medal has been playing at the top level in Argentina, Spain, PL and of course in international stage for over 6 years whilst Canas become a first team regular in Spain less than 2 years ago.


I think that sets out which player has the higher "Pedigree".

He most certainly does have a better pedigree, as does Torres over Benteke... But Benteke is performing much better and is the better player at the moment.

And lets not pretend that if Medel was Spanish hed have international caps.

Yes it's simple when you look at the pedigree of both players Gary Medal stands out in comparison to Jose Canas. Medal is clearly the better player.

yeah ok and Torres is better than Benteke too then

We are talking about now, not before. And canas is playing better as the stats show. Just as the stats show Benteke playing better than torres - funny that.

Another fallacy is that if you call someone an idiot you are somehow losing the argument.

i didnt say you list the argument because of that, it just shows a limited vocabulary. Your lack of any substance to your opinion is what i feel makes you lose the debate. You havent told me one way in which he is performing better than canas.

The fact is, people like barnett and your good self drain me to the point that I think life's not worth living anymore. No offence but if I saw you out I probably wouldn't even contemplate having a conversation with you!

so you wouldnt have a converstation with me? Okay

But I will humour you with my final answer on the subject.

I watched both games yesterday and the difference between medel and canas was plain for all to see.

well canas was playing against worth more than the Fulham team so i wouldn't expect any different to be honest. Although i think they were very similar performances.

I'm not one eyed to dismiss that swansea play a much more fluid and perhaps attractive style of football than us at present and there were times yesterday when I was screaming at our players "give him an option" when medel had the ball yet he managed to manouvre himself out of trouble and still find a red shirt.

I watched canas prancing round like a scruffy c**t trying to bring crusty the clowns hairstyle into fashion and being taught a lesson of how to play football by arsenals midfield and he just looked a pale shadow in comparison.

the fact you have to refer to his hairstyle tells you all you need to know. You havent explained why you dont think he played aswell. Passing? Tacking? What? Because he rarely gave the ball away, tackles successfully and got out attacks going. Asnyou can imagine the stats back me up.

Now another thing gary has which neither britton or canas has got is leadership qualities. It's hard to put your finger on and I don't expect you to understand it cos it cant be measured by your computer.

so you think a man who cant speak the same language as his players and thus not able to communicate has more leadership qualities that canas who was club captain at Real Betis? Im afraid thats as ine eyed as you can get.

I've often discussed this phenomenon with my mates and there are only a handful of players who have got it.

Patrick Vieira, Steven Gerard, Maradona (perhaps to a lesser extent) schweinsteiger, Roy Keane, just to name a few.

Now if you look at Britton's stats compared to Roy Keane, britton would probably come out on top, but even the most one eyed jack would concede that britton is not in the same league as keane and if they did they would be labelled the village idiot.

im pretty confident britton would not have better stats than Roy Keane whi was a threat in attack and in defence.

in the short time Medel has been with us, we have seen him carry the team when the chips are down on more than one occasion and this is a major quality that britton, canas and very few midfielders possess.

how do you know this? Canas has lead our team to as many victories as you guys and has better stats to boot

I'm not gonna say anymore on the subject cos I'm honestly bored shitless with it now.

bye bye

so you still havent given me an opinion other than canas has funny hair and medel is better "coz he is"

Great

You should just ignore this fool. He is at it again, deflecting arguments that destroy his. He has no idea about football, but he loves stats. All of his arguments are based on stats. In truth he keeps asking people what they base their opinions on, well it is football knowledge. This idiot has no idea and has probably never kicked a ball in his life. Well I think we have already established that many of us think that stats are a load of crap... let him stew in his own juice. Unfortunately by keeping up the conversation we are feeding his only route to human interaction. Do what he does, just ignore everything he says and throw in whatever opinions you like. 1. My opinion - City will outgrow Swansea in the premier league. 2. Swansea will end up dropping down the leagues again 3. 98.7256% od stats are made up... statistically that is.

Oh dear

You dont like me much do you now you are back, how about telling me what you saw that makes Medel way better than Canas. Im all ears. No amount of deflecting, name calling and belittling can detract from the crux of the matter here...

The floor is yours sir

:lol: yeah ok and Torres is better than Benteke too then

We are talking about now, not before. And canas is playing better as the stats show. Just as the stats show Benteke playing better than torres - funny that.

It's certainly true that when it comes to time sat on the bench Canas is ahead of Medel this season, then of course we shouldn't forget that Canas has also been booked twice this season as well.


Now we are only 6 games in to the season but Gary Medel has played over 100 minutes more than Canas already and I've yet to hear any pundit talking about Canas in the way they have been talking about Gary Medel.

More game time, more appreciation by the pundits and yet Roath Tragic says Canas is playing better at the moment. Hmmm



Nothing changes does it Tragic.

Oh dear

You dont like me much do you now you are back, how about telling me what you saw that makes Medel way better than Canas. Im all ears. No amount of deflecting, name calling and belittling can detract from the crux of the matter here...

The floor is yours sir

I've already told you. Medel can control a game, Cana Cannat.

No tbh I think you are a saddo, I'm surprised that you picked up on that though.

:lol: yeah ok and Torres is better than Benteke too then

We are talking about now, not before. And canas is playing better as the stats show. Just as the stats show Benteke playing better than torres - funny that.

It's certainly true that when it comes to time sat on the bench Canas is ahead of Medel this season, then of course we shouldn't forget that Canas has also been booked twice this season as well.


Now we are only 6 games in to the season but Gary Medel has played over 100 minutes more than Canas already and I've yet to hear any pundit talking about Canas in the way they have been talking about Gary Medel.

More game time, more appreciation by the pundits and yet Roath Tragic says Canas is playing better at the moment. Hmmm



Nothing changes does it Tragic.

Oh we are back to the pundits again you are right it seems nothing does change.

You say hes better because hes played an extra game then and ill say hes not because canas tackles more often, more successfully, makes more key passes, more defensive blocks and interceptions and more key passes.

Looks like we have got some common ground after all

Oh dear

You dont like me much do you now you are back, how about telling me what you saw that makes Medel way better than Canas. Im all ears. No amount of deflecting, name calling and belittling can detract from the crux of the matter here...

The floor is yours sir

I've already told you. Medel can control a game, Cana Cannat.

No tbh I think you are a saddo, I'm surprised that you picked up on that though.

So he controls games and canas cant yet canas makes more key attacking and defensive contributions

Nice.

Roath. Did you miss my last reply or choose to ignore it?