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Re: Royal Mail shares about to go on sale

Sat Sep 28, 2013 4:56 pm

splottbluebird48 wrote:I am willing to bet you there will be substantial job losses after it goes private


Still a sweeping generalisation until it ever happens through isn't it ;)

Re: Royal Mail shares about to go on sale

Sat Sep 28, 2013 5:00 pm

or you can buy online https://royalmailshares.service.gov.uk

Re: Royal Mail shares about to go on sale

Sat Sep 28, 2013 5:05 pm

Pidgeofcdf wrote:or you can buy online https://royalmailshares.service.gov.uk


Cheers mate I didn't know that :thumbright:

Re: Royal Mail shares about to go on sale

Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:50 pm

Privatisation is such a dirty word in this country and I have no idea why.

Rural services will be protected, I think they are going to band the most profitable areas with the least profitable areas. If you want the carrot you'll have to buy the donkey too.

Re: Royal Mail shares about to go on sale

Sat Sep 28, 2013 7:26 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Privatisation is such a dirty word in this country and I have no idea why.

Rural services will be protected, I think they are going to band the most profitable areas with the least profitable areas. If you want the carrot you'll have to buy the donkey too.


Because far too many people in this Country from jealousy and rather than patting successful people on the back people would rather we tax them for all their hard work.

Successful business people should be looked upon in this country rather than slagged off

Re: Royal Mail shares about to go on sale

Sat Sep 28, 2013 7:56 pm

Military Junta wrote:
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Privatisation is such a dirty word in this country and I have no idea why.

Rural services will be protected, I think they are going to band the most profitable areas with the least profitable areas. If you want the carrot you'll have to buy the donkey too.


Because far too many people in this Country from jealousy and rather than patting successful people on the back people would rather we tax them for all their hard work.

Successful business people should be looked upon in this country rather than slagged off


How about patting the people on the back who work tirelessly in the NHS/fire service/Police Army???

Re: Royal Mail shares about to go on sale

Sat Sep 28, 2013 11:04 pm

splottbluebird48 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Privatisation is such a dirty word in this country and I have no idea why.

Rural services will be protected, I think they are going to band the most profitable areas with the least profitable areas. If you want the carrot you'll have to buy the donkey too.


Because far too many people in this Country from jealousy and rather than patting successful people on the back people would rather we tax them for all their hard work.

Successful business people should be looked upon in this country rather than slagged off


How about patting the people on the back who work tirelessly in the NHS/fire service/Police Army???


Old man asked why 'Privatisation is such a dirty word' and I give me answer.

Looks like we got a Communist here lads :lol:

Re: Royal Mail shares about to go on sale

Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:52 am

I got rejected for a job over the Christmas period cause I won't let them send my National insurance number to Scotland the fuckers, I don't want 'feeder' companys having my details! :twisted: :old:

Re: Royal Mail shares about to go on sale

Sun Sep 29, 2013 10:50 am

Military Junta wrote:
exile wrote:and not one mention of the workers.greedy bastards.maggie would be proud of you


My wife worked fo Royal Mail for 3 years after she left banking in the heart of the Banking crisis and coming from a target driven private sector to what is really public sector she would say often that there are many people there who are on old contracts just sitting on their hands doing f**k all because they knew they have Union scurity. The none Union members would welcome striking days because hey wouldn't have lazy bastards just looking at them doing all the work who are consantly complaining about everything. Complete 1970s mentality and its the taxpayers who were paying for it all.


listen to your wife all the time do you!!!!!
well i can tell you she's talkin bollocks.i've been a postie for 15 yrs in wales and now in devon and people get threatened with their jobs more or less every day if they don't complete their timed over 8 hr shifts by bullying two bit managers.with short sighted sef obsessed views much like your good self!

Re: Royal Mail shares about to go on sale

Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:18 pm

exile wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
exile wrote:and not one mention of the workers.greedy bastards.maggie would be proud of you


My wife worked fo Royal Mail for 3 years after she left banking in the heart of the Banking crisis and coming from a target driven private sector to what is really public sector she would say often that there are many people there who are on old contracts just sitting on their hands doing f**k all because they knew they have Union scurity. The none Union members would welcome striking days because hey wouldn't have lazy bastards just looking at them doing all the work who are consantly complaining about everything. Complete 1970s mentality and its the taxpayers who were paying for it all.


listen to your wife all the time do you!!!!!
well i can tell you she's talkin bollocks.i've been a postie for 15 yrs in wales and now in devon and people get threatened with their jobs more or less every day if they don't complete their timed over 8 hr shifts by bullying two bit managers.with short sighted sef obsessed views much like your good self!


As I said said she come from a very target driven enviroment to the Royal Mail and what she said you more as less stated the same thing. In every other walk of like if people cant meet the targets given to them then ge someone else in who can do the job on time :? Royal Mail workers wont knowing bullying in the workforce if it bite them on their arse!!!!

Re: Royal Mail shares about to go on sale

Sun Sep 29, 2013 1:39 pm

You come across to me as someone who thinks bullying in the workplace is exceptable,even a good thing.

Re: Royal Mail shares about to go on sale

Sun Sep 29, 2013 1:42 pm

since 64 wrote:You come across to me as someone who thinks bullying in the workplace is exceptable,even a good thing.


No but surely if you are expected to hit certain targets and you fail to do so then should you really be expected to keep your job.?

Re: Royal Mail shares about to go on sale

Sun Sep 29, 2013 1:44 pm

Military Junta wrote:
since 64 wrote:You come across to me as someone who thinks bullying in the workplace is exceptable,even a good thing.


No but surely if you are expected to hit certain targets and you fail to do so then should you really be expected to keep your job.?


Providing its all feasible if not that is bullying.

Re: Royal Mail shares about to go on sale

Sun Sep 29, 2013 1:47 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
since 64 wrote:You come across to me as someone who thinks bullying in the workplace is exceptable,even a good thing.


No but surely if you are expected to hit certain targets and you fail to do so then should you really be expected to keep your job.?


Providing its all feasible if not that is bullying.


From what I was told its feasible to the non-Union newer employees but never feasible for the Union membered employees on the older contracts.

Re: Royal Mail shares about to go on sale

Sun Sep 29, 2013 1:50 pm

Military Junta wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
since 64 wrote:You come across to me as someone who thinks bullying in the workplace is exceptable,even a good thing.


No but surely if you are expected to hit certain targets and you fail to do so then should you really be expected to keep your job.?


Providing its all feasible if not that is bullying.


From what I was told its feasible to the non-Union newer employees but never feasible for the Union membered employees on the older contracts.


far too simple an explanation and small-minded

so much stuff you havent factored into that statement its rather funny

Re: Royal Mail shares about to go on sale

Sun Sep 29, 2013 1:52 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
since 64 wrote:You come across to me as someone who thinks bullying in the workplace is exceptable,even a good thing.


No but surely if you are expected to hit certain targets and you fail to do so then should you really be expected to keep your job.?


Providing its all feasible if not that is bullying.


From what I was told its feasible to the non-Union newer employees but never feasible for the Union membered employees on the older contracts.


far too simple an explanation and small-minded

so much stuff you havent factored into that statement its rather funny


simple but true

Re: Royal Mail shares about to go on sale

Sun Sep 29, 2013 1:55 pm

Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
since 64 wrote:You come across to me as someone who thinks bullying in the workplace is exceptable,even a good thing.


No but surely if you are expected to hit certain targets and you fail to do so then should you really be expected to keep your job.?


Providing its all feasible if not that is bullying.


From what I was told its feasible to the non-Union newer employees but never feasible for the Union membered employees on the older contracts.


far too simple an explanation and small-minded

so much stuff you havent factored into that statement its rather funny


simple but true


on a very simple level yes

but you havent considered age, fitness, disability, strength all that will affect your target for worse or better

also you assume every route is exactly the same none of them are another factor that will affect individual targets

now if you want to manage in the way that this is the target meet it or get fired its very lazy and poor management and id question your ability to do your job rather than the workers below you

Re: Royal Mail shares about to go on sale

Sun Sep 29, 2013 1:58 pm

Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
since 64 wrote:You come across to me as someone who thinks bullying in the workplace is exceptable,even a good thing.


No but surely if you are expected to hit certain targets and you fail to do so then should you really be expected to keep your job.?


Providing its all feasible if not that is bullying.


From what I was told its feasible to the non-Union newer employees but never feasible for the Union membered employees on the older contracts.


far too simple an explanation and small-minded

so much stuff you havent factored into that statement its rather funny


simple but true

JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
since 64 wrote:You come across to me as someone who thinks bullying in the workplace is exceptable,even a good thing.


No but surely if you are expected to hit certain targets and you fail to do so then should you really be expected to keep your job.?


Providing its all feasible if not that is bullying.


From what I was told its feasible to the non-Union newer employees but never feasible for the Union membered employees on the older contracts.


far too simple an explanation and small-minded

so much stuff you havent factored into that statement its rather funny


simple but true


on a very simple level yes

but you havent considered age, fitness, disability, strength all that will affect your target for worse or better

also you assume every route is exactly the same none of them are another factor that will affect individual targets

now if you want to manage in the way that this is the target meet it or get fired its very lazy and poor management and id question your ability to do your job rather than the workers below you


Excatly my point as to why this should have been done years ago and not been a drain on our taxes up until now

Re: Royal Mail shares about to go on sale

Sun Sep 29, 2013 2:04 pm

The bullying culture is alive and well in RM always has been whether your union or non union only difference is one gets support[if justified]the other ,well gets to fight their own battles.

Re: Royal Mail shares about to go on sale

Sun Sep 29, 2013 2:05 pm

Military Junta wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
since 64 wrote:You come across to me as someone who thinks bullying in the workplace is exceptable,even a good thing.


No but surely if you are expected to hit certain targets and you fail to do so then should you really be expected to keep your job.?


Providing its all feasible if not that is bullying.


From what I was told its feasible to the non-Union newer employees but never feasible for the Union membered employees on the older contracts.


far too simple an explanation and small-minded

so much stuff you havent factored into that statement its rather funny


simple but true

JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
since 64 wrote:You come across to me as someone who thinks bullying in the workplace is exceptable,even a good thing.


No but surely if you are expected to hit certain targets and you fail to do so then should you really be expected to keep your job.?


Providing its all feasible if not that is bullying.


From what I was told its feasible to the non-Union newer employees but never feasible for the Union membered employees on the older contracts.


far too simple an explanation and small-minded

so much stuff you havent factored into that statement its rather funny


simple but true


on a very simple level yes

but you havent considered age, fitness, disability, strength all that will affect your target for worse or better

also you assume every route is exactly the same none of them are another factor that will affect individual targets

now if you want to manage in the way that this is the target meet it or get fired its very lazy and poor management and id question your ability to do your job rather than the workers below you


Excatly my point as to why this should have been done years ago and not been a drain on our taxes up until now


what are you talking about?

whether the royal mail is private or public it doesnt change employment law, so I fail to see what point you are making

and what drain? the royal mail made a profit last year as far as I am aware

Re: Royal Mail shares about to go on sale

Sun Sep 29, 2013 2:23 pm

As for rural areas not being effected ,if anyone believes the universal service will continue after the three year agreement is signed and sealed is mad,the days of the postie travelling miles up a country lane to deliver a hospital appointment or a worthless bit of junk are almost over,i mean how do you justify that cost to your shareholders?

Re: Royal Mail shares about to go on sale

Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:28 pm

Military Junta wrote:
exile wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
exile wrote:and not one mention of the workers.greedy bastards.maggie would be proud of you


My wife worked fo Royal Mail for 3 years after she left banking in the heart of the Banking crisis and coming from a target driven private sector to what is really public sector she would say often that there are many people there who are on old contracts just sitting on their hands doing f**k all because they knew they have Union scurity. The none Union members would welcome striking days because hey wouldn't have lazy bastards just looking at them doing all the work who are consantly complaining about everything. Complete 1970s mentality and its the taxpayers who were paying for it all.


listen to your wife all the time do you!!!!!
well i can tell you she's talkin bollocks.i've been a postie for 15 yrs in wales and now in devon and people get threatened with their jobs more or less every day if they don't complete their timed over 8 hr shifts by bullying two bit managers.with short sighted sef obsessed views much like your good self!


As I said said she come from a very target driven enviroment to the Royal Mail and what she said you more as less stated the same thing. In every other walk of like if people cant meet the targets given to them then ge someone else in who can do the job on time :? Royal Mail workers wont knowing bullying in the workforce if it bite them on their arse!!!!


unfortunately you and people like you know everything don't you.you have absolutely no idea of what goes on yet you are telling me who does the solution.waste of time debating with you go and eat some dog! :wave:

Re: Royal Mail shares about to go on sale

Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:15 pm

Hope shareholders enjoyed the first day of trading today!!! :thumbup:

Re: Royal Mail shares about to go on sale

Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:19 pm

Can't trade till Tuesday as I got mine through the .gov website. Just hoping the share price holds up enough for when I offload them.

It's a joke how undervalued they were by the government though. That's £1billion they'll have to find through cuts or taxes now.

Re: Royal Mail shares about to go on sale

Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:21 pm

Aramore wrote:Can't trade till Tuesday as I got mine through the .gov website. Just hoping the share price holds up enough for when I offload them.

It's a joke how undervalued they were by the government though. That's £1billion they'll have to find through cuts or taxes now.


They had to make them attractive for people to buy. Fingers crossed for you mate

Re: Royal Mail shares about to go on sale

Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:45 am

We have bought £750 worth ! :ayatollah: