THE BATTLE OF THE DEFENSIVE MIDFIELDER

Yes Id trust the opinion of Waddle, someone who actually attends the games and is not a WUM over some internet loon basing performance soley on the stats of one particular stat site.

There are hundreds of stat sites out there and they contradict each other.

So you have gone back to being offensive then?

If im winding you up by showing some stats then this isnt the site for you Polo. Dont click it if it offends you. As for attending matches, thats such a Kop out. Every single Swansea match is televised over here

Which sites gives a differing stats then, ill take an average

If you think calling you an "internet loon" is offensive then maybe this isnt the site for you.

Oh then again since Barry Chuckles has his finger on the report button then maybe it could be deemed as offensive.

Personally id say telling porkies to qualify ones point is more offensive.

Conveniently left out Aron Gunnarsson again I see who was top of those silly statistics on that site!

Why would i include him? The discussion is regarding whether or not spending £10m on a defensive midfielder is wise when he does no more than Canas or Britton who were picked up for next to nothing.

Conveniently left out Aron Gunnarsson again I see who was top of those silly statistics on that site!

And we got him for free but I guess that doesn't suit the agenda

If you think calling you an "internet loon" is offensive then maybe this isnt the site for you.

Oh then again since Barry Chuckles has his finger on the report button then maybe it could be deemed as offensive.

Personally id say telling porkies to qualify ones point is more offensive.

I didnt say i was offended, i said you were being offensive again, name calling is attempting to be offensive in my book.

And i agree lying is not a good trait, it begs the question why you tried to claim canas was not betis captain then doesnt it?

Now stop acting the fool. Want to join in the discussion, you are more than welcome.

"Britton is pretty much a one man club."

West Ham
Swansea
Sheff Utd

Conveniently left out Aron Gunnarsson again I see who was top of those silly statistics on that site!

And we got him for free but I guess that doesn't suit the agenda

My agenda?

i dont have one. i have a point however, which is i think Medel was vastly overpriced which hampered your ability to strengthen elsewhere.... surely adding Gunnarson backs up my point doesnt it?

"Britton is pretty much a one man club."

West Ham
Swansea
Sheff Utd

He didnt play for west ham in a competitive match and was at sheff utd for 5 months. I think "pretty much a one man club" is accurate.

Man, you and polo now acting the fool. Great news

"Britton is pretty much a one man club."

West Ham
Swansea
Sheff Utd

He didnt play for west ham in a competitive match and was at sheff utd for 5 months. I think "pretty much a one man club" is accurate.

Man, you and polo now acting the fool. Great news

So he has been at 3 clubs then, as I pointed out. Therefore not a "one club man" The only fool would be the one who thinks Leon Britton is a one club man.

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Conveniently left out Aron Gunnarsson again I see who was top of those silly statistics on that site!

And we got him for free but I guess that doesn't suit the agenda

My agenda?

i dont have one. i have a point however, which is i think Medel was vastly overpriced which hampered your ability to strengthen elsewhere.... surely adding Gunnarson backs up my point doesnt it?

Just shows we can get quality at bargain prices too, but sometimes if you want players at another level you have to pay. Where's your proof that signing Mendel hampered our ability to strengthen elsewhere?

So he has been at 3 clubs then, as I pointed out. Therefore not a "one club man" The only fool would be the one who thinks Leon Britton is a one club man.

Hes played competitively for one club baring a 5 month stint in sheffield.

Thats pretty much a one club man, as stated.

Leon Britton has worked at 3 clubs and therefore is nothing like a "one club man"

Anyway, Medel for me any day.

Just shows we can get quality at bargain prices too, but sometimes if you want players at another level you have to pay. Where's your proof that signing Mendel hampered our ability to strengthen elsewhere?

Well thats the point of this thread isnt it, i dont think he is another level.

Its my opinion that it hampered other signings elsewhere. You dont have a bottomless pit of money and £10m is a large chunk aswel as large chunks shelled out elsewhere.

Leon Britton has worked at 3 clubs and therefore is nothing like a "one club man"

Anyway, Medel for me any day.

Britton has played his whole competitive career for one club, baring a 5 months spell in sheffield. At 31 years of age, hes pretty much a one man club as i stated. He has played for us in every single season hes been a competitive professional footballer.

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Leon Britton has worked at 3 clubs and therefore is nothing like a "one club man"

Anyway, Medel for me any day.

Britton has plpayed his whole competitive career for one club, baring a 5 months spell in sheffield. At 31 years of age, hes pretty mich a one man club as i stated. He has played for us in every single season hes been a competitive professional footballer.

So he's played for more than one club, which totally rules him out of being a "one club man".

You rely on stats heavily in this thread & the stats show that he has played for more than one club.

Leon Britton has worked at 3 clubs and therefore is nothing like a "one club man"

Anyway, Medel for me any day.

Britton has plpayed his whole competitive career for one club, baring a 5 months spell in sheffield. At 31 years of age, hes pretty mich a one man club as i stated. He has played for us in every single season hes been a competitive professional footballer.

So he's played for more than one club, which totally rules him out of being a "one club man".

You rely on stats heavily in this thread & the stats show that he has played for more than one club.

i havent denied he played for Sheffield United for 5 months....

he came back in the same season. And played for Swansea in every season hes been a competitive professional footballer which is why I said he was PRETTY MUCH a one club man.... Which he is.

If you think calling you an "internet loon" is offensive then maybe this isnt the site for you.

Oh then again since Barry Chuckles has his finger on the report button then maybe it could be deemed as offensive.

Personally id say telling porkies to qualify ones point is more offensive.

I didnt say i was offended, i said you were being offensive again, name calling is attempting to be offensive in my book.

And i agree lying is not a good trait, it begs the question why you tried to claim canas was not betis captain then doesnt it?

Now stop acting the fool. Want to join in the discussion, you are more than welcome.

They have 4 captains in Spain and Canas was 3rd captain not club captain

"Leon Britton is pretty much a one club man"







How anyone can try and call Britton a one club man, when he's represented three clubs (2 in the senior setup) is beyond me.

Just shows we can get quality at bargain prices too, but sometimes if you want players at another level you have to pay. Where's your proof that signing Mendel hampered our ability to strengthen elsewhere?

Well thats the point of this thread isnt it, i dont think he is another level.

Its my opinion that it hampered other signings elsewhere. You dont have a bottomless pit of money and £10m is a large chunk aswel as large chunks shelled out elsewhere.

Yet we were prepared to get Ince for £7m. MM knew his targets and budget and in sure if the right player was available we would have got him. The DM role was crucial to us this season so money well spent, especially as his realise value will be significant should it come to that. Not sure what you'd get for Britton

"Leon Britton is pretty much a one club man"

How anyone can try and call Britton a one club man, when he's represented three clubs (2 in the senior setup) is beyond me.

We have been through this havent we?

Hes played for Swansea in every single season of his senior football career. He spent 5 months at Sheffield United which stops him beong a bone fide one club man, but as i said, hes pretty much a one club man.

If you think calling you an "internet loon" is offensive then maybe this isnt the site for you.

Oh then again since Barry Chuckles has his finger on the report button then maybe it could be deemed as offensive.

Personally id say telling porkies to qualify ones point is more offensive.

I didnt say i was offended, i said you were being offensive again, name calling is attempting to be offensive in my book.

And i agree lying is not a good trait, it begs the question why you tried to claim canas was not betis captain then doesnt it?

Now stop acting the fool. Want to join in the discussion, you are more than welcome.

They have 4 captains in Spain and Canas was 3rd captain not club captain

Link?

Just shows we can get quality at bargain prices too, but sometimes if you want players at another level you have to pay. Where's your proof that signing Mendel hampered our ability to strengthen elsewhere?

Well thats the point of this thread isnt it, i dont think he is another level.

Its my opinion that it hampered other signings elsewhere. You dont have a bottomless pit of money and £10m is a large chunk aswel as large chunks shelled out elsewhere.

Yet we were prepared to get Ince for £7m. MM knew his targets and budget and in sure if the right player was available we would have got him. The DM role was crucial to us this season so money well spent, especially as his realise value will be significant should it come to that. Not sure what you'd get for Britton

That was before medel, that isnt representative of the budget. If you got ince i dont think you would have got medel.

So the thread has changed now Gunnarson has the best "Stats"

No mention of wether Medel was worth 10 mil in the OP just the "battle if the DMs"

And just go to prove how the stats are misleading because any Cardiff fan who has attended the games this season will tell you Medel has been our stand out player not Gunnarson.

I do wonder why PL spend millions in coaches and managers why not just employ the geeks at Skwaka to pick the team based purely on these contradictory stats

Whatever next Canas is better than Xavi because he has a better stat on FIFA 2014

Just shows we can get quality at bargain prices too, but sometimes if you want players at another level you have to pay. Where's your proof that signing Mendel hampered our ability to strengthen elsewhere?

Well thats the point of this thread isnt it, i dont think he is another level.

Its my opinion that it hampered other signings elsewhere. You dont have a bottomless pit of money and £10m is a large chunk aswel as large chunks shelled out elsewhere.

Yet we were prepared to get Ince for £7m. MM knew his targets and budget and in sure if the right player was available we would have got him. The DM role was crucial to us this season so money well spent, especially as his realise value will be significant should it come to that. Not sure what you'd get for Britton

That was before medel, that isnt representative of the budget. If you got ince i dont think you would have got medel.

Even though we had bids on the table for Wanyama and Ince at the same time

Even though we had bids on the table for Wanyama and Ince at the same time

Yep. Its just common sense. If you bought a canas or a britton for free then you would have had £10m to spend elsewhere, you agree you are deficient. So that is basically my point.

do you have a link regarding Canas being 3rd captain?

So Leon Britton flopped at Sheff U with lesser quality players around him.

Gary has excelled every club and league he has played in plus international level.

The way Swansea play make the players in that position look better than they are.

Look at Joe Allen the 15m flop at Liverpool.

So the thread has changed now Gunnarson has the best "Stats"

No mention of wether Medel was worth 10 mil in the OP just the "battle if the DMs"

And just go to prove how the stats are misleading because any Cardiff fan who has attended the games this season will tell you Medel has been our stand out player not Gunnarson.

I do wonder why PL spend millions in coaches and managers why not just employ the geeks at Skwaka to pick the team based purely on these contradictory stats

Whatever next Canas is better than Xavi because he has a better stat on FIFA 2014

The thread hasnt changed at all. You paid nothing for Gunnarsson.

Im using stats as a tool. Ive outlines what the main attributes are for a defensive midfielder and these stats shows who does these skills more efficiently.

Ive asked you what medel does better and all you have come up with is "got caps".

Now i shall say again, if you are interested in contributing sensibly then you are more than welcome, but you arent holding yourself in any great light right now.

So Leon Britton flopped at Sheff U with lesser quality players around him.

Gary has excelled every club and league he has played in plus international level.

The way Swansea play make the players in that position look better than they are.

Look at Joe Allen the 15m flop at Liverpool.

Lots of players have bad moves, doesnt mean they are bad players. Look at Torres, he isnt a bad player, he just doesnt fit into Chelseas way of doing things.

A system cant make players dispossess othes effectively and consistently, it also cant make you pass more accurately... More often sure, but not more accurately.

Caps doing mean anything as ive told you. Are you suggesting everyone with a cap is better than Michu?

Got a link of Canas being 3rd captain?

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Just shows we can get quality at bargain prices too, but sometimes if you want players at another level you have to pay. Where's your proof that signing Mendel hampered our ability to strengthen elsewhere?

Well thats the point of this thread isnt it, i dont think he is another level.

Its my opinion that it hampered other signings elsewhere. You dont have a bottomless pit of money and £10m is a large chunk aswel as large chunks shelled out elsewhere.

Yet we were prepared to get Ince for £7m. MM knew his targets and budget and in sure if the right player was available we would have got him. The DM role was crucial to us this season so money well spent, especially as his realise value will be significant should it come to that. Not sure what you'd get for Britton

That was before medel, that isnt representative of the budget. If you got ince i dont think you would have got medel.

Yeah because ince would have solved our DM requirement
Totally disagree with you.

Just shows we can get quality at bargain prices too, but sometimes if you want players at another level you have to pay. Where's your proof that signing Mendel hampered our ability to strengthen elsewhere?

Well thats the point of this thread isnt it, i dont think he is another level.

Its my opinion that it hampered other signings elsewhere. You dont have a bottomless pit of money and £10m is a large chunk aswel as large chunks shelled out elsewhere.

Yet we were prepared to get Ince for £7m. MM knew his targets and budget and in sure if the right player was available we would have got him. The DM role was crucial to us this season so money well spent, especially as his realise value will be significant should it come to that. Not sure what you'd get for Britton

That was before medel, that isnt representative of the budget. If you got ince i dont think you would have got medel.

Yeah because ince would have solved our DM requirement
Totally disagree with you.

I didnt say Ince was going to be your defensive midfielder did I? The funds taken to acquire medel naturally would have lessened the options you could have elsewhere.

My point being Medel is doing a job many others can do for nothing like £10m or whatever it was.

Threads completely changed since its been pointed out Gunnarson has the best "stats" which shows how nonsebsical the stats are to begin with

No point debating with the condesending fool he just changes the point of debate rather than guve any credit.

Tried and failed to have a reasoned debate so gonna have to put him on ignore for the sake of my sanity.