Should drink drivers be banned for life?

It's definitely a yes/no answer you can really out emotions into it because laws should be governed on practicality and reality of situations, not what some Daily Mail right winged idiot thinks the world should be (otherwise every 5th crime would have the death penalty attached to it)

Multiple clear as day convictions almost certainly should. But for a one time offence you have rehabilitate people.

I can never understand why people dont use a taxi if they want a drink........or take the car and dont drink at all.

I can never understand why people dont use a taxi if they want a drink........or take the car and dont drink at all.

From my point of view I was young and stupid and thought I new it all but that's still no excuse

If they are caught once, then they should learn a lesson, but if they are caught twice, then of course they should be banned for life, no right minded person would allow a pesistant drunk driver to put peoples lives at risk. It amazes me that 11 of you have voted no to a second time drunk, that says a lot about you, perhaps you drive when drunk yourselves, as I cannot see any other reason other than that, for you voting no!

iv voted no but fully understand if my mates/family had been hit by a drunk driver then i may think diff.i got banned in 95 for a yr.52 i think it was.the old bill let me go within a hr without the car.they dont let drunken people walk the streets do they?i had a high tolerance level then to booze.i swore id never do it again.within a month of getting it back i was worse than ever.if id have been stopped then yes i deserved a long ,long ban.life?maybe.i was a disgrace.in 02 i found our i was a alcoholic(every one else knew yrs ago ).i went to a 12 step fellowship.by the grace of god i havnt drunk since.i go into prisons now with the group.a prisoner put something to me and it really smashed home.he said -if you pull a blade on someone its 5yr.if you drive a 3ton car under the influence it,s a 12mth ban.you could prob avoid a blade but could you avoid a car?cars are killing machines in the wrong hands.put a drink into someone and the risk is a lot higher.prob is people who aint got liecences cos they would have a life ban will drive anyway.or some would.

sorry.a second time-then yes.

sorry.a second time-then yes.

No different to speeding. If you are ridiculously over the limit or cause and accident or injury. It should not be a blanket automatic ban.

What about Weed....ban for life?

f*cking roads be empty.

Oh jesus! Here comes the dope brigade who buys into the 'every ones doing it theory', which is a very popular train of thought, especially amongst young dope heads! Listen son, the nation is not stoned!

A definite NO from me, if anyone on here can say they've NEVER driven the morning after a good session the night before , then well done to you...

What about Weed....ban for life?

f*cking roads be empty.

Oh jesus! Here comes the dope brigade who buys into the 'every ones doing it theory', which is a very popular train of thought, especially amongst young dope heads! Listen son, the nation is not stoned!

plenty of dope smokers in mental hospitals now as well.

There is alcohol in many things which you wouldn't know about including items like mouthwash and so on

A definite NO from me, if anyone on here can say they've NEVER driven the morning after a good session the night before , then well done to you...

Im sure I have in my youth but if I got caught and I was threatened with a life ban I wouldnt do it again hence it could save lives. I had 3 points on my licence when I passed my motorbike test, as a new driver 3 more and I would lose my licence. Do you think I picked up those extra 3 pounts, hell no!

Bottom line, being over the limit costs lives no excuses.

There is alcohol in many things which you wouldn't know about including items like mouthwash and so on

Yep, mouthwash could do that within 10 minutes hence the blood test.

There is alcohol in many things which you wouldn't know about including items like mouthwash and so on

Don't make me laugh, you don't know what contains alchohol, only thick people don't know what items contain alchohol
and you are not thick are you? stop looking for excuses for people drunk driving!

I voted no. I'm not a drink driver either.

There is alcohol in many things which you wouldn't know about including items like mouthwash and so on

Don't make me laugh, you don't know what contains alchohol, only thick people don't know what items contain alchohol
and you are not thick are you? stop looking for excuses for people drunk driving!

Not looking for excuses at all, you could easily think that you are under however mouthwash or food which may include a wine sauce can tip you over.

If a prosecutors can prove they were drinking within a certain time limit of the alleged offence then they should be able to revoke their right to a license for life. If they do you at 10pm and they can find out from speaking to witnesses or CCTV footage from a pub that you had left there at 9pm then they should be able to use that to impose harsher sentences. The same should apply if they can prove you were drinking in the car at the time of the offence.

Id say the biggest risk categories are those who joy ride and drink and get high and really have no care for others but only themselves and those who drive to the pub and then drive home after a session again having no care for anybody else.

If they have been prosecuted the day after they should be charged with being a negligent motorist after drinking which should be a suspended sentence and 6-12 month ban. If they commit the same offence again then they should get the life ban.

I think drink driving is very complex as an issue.

1) There are those who willingly get drunk and drive and couldn't care less
2) There are those who through laziness or lack of money end up jumping in their car thinking they wont be caught
3) There are those who drive the next day through negligence and don't realise they may still be over
4) There are those who drive the next day, know they could be over but still take the risk

I personally don't drive the day after a night out on the town anymore as its too risky especially with the amount of police checks around here because of all the students. Plus a bit of fresh air walking to the shops for a bit does you good when you're hungover.

Not looking for excuses at all, you could easily think that you are under however mouthwash or food which may include a wine sauce can tip you over.

Should someone who can't ascertain whats got alcohol in it and what hasn't be given the right to drive a dangerous motor vehicle in the first place? I think with wine sauce the clue is very much in the name about whether it contains alcohol or not. If you think there's a risk then don't drive, simple. If people take risks they should face the consequences.

I have a zero tolerance approach to drinking and driving personally. If I drink 2 or 3 pints of normal lager I know my body will easily get rid of them the next day. If I drink anything more I know the alcohol could still be present so I wouldn't drive.According to Road Safety Scotland, it can take up to 12 hours to be safe to drive after drinking one bottle of wine or four pints of strong lager. The rule of thumb is that each unit of alcohol takes about an hour to process. It takes about 7 hours to break down 3 pints of carling.

If you get bladdered and drive the next day your a drunk driver. Your a drunk driver who got pissed took a nap and jumped in a car, dress it up how you want its the same thing. Its down to the driver to take responsibility for how much they drink.

I have a zero tolerance approach to drinking and driving personally. If I drink 2 or 3 pints of normal lager I know my body will easily get rid of them the next day. If I drink anything more I know the alcohol could still be present so I wouldn't drive.According to Road Safety Scotland, it can take up to 12 hours to be safe to drive after drinking one bottle of wine or four pints of strong lager. The rule of thumb is that each unit of alcohol takes about an hour to process. It takes about 7 hours to break down 3 pints of carling.

If you get bladdered and drive the next day your a drunk driver. Your a drunk driver who got pissed took a nap and jumped in a car, dress it up how you want its the same thing. Its down to the driver to take responsibility for how much they drink.

This post is legally and morally correct.

I have a zero tolerance approach to drinking and driving personally. If I drink 2 or 3 pints of normal lager I know my body will easily get rid of them the next day. If I drink anything more I know the alcohol could still be present so I wouldn't drive.According to Road Safety Scotland, it can take up to 12 hours to be safe to drive after drinking one bottle of wine or four pints of strong lager. The rule of thumb is that each unit of alcohol takes about an hour to process. It takes about 7 hours to break down 3 pints of carling.

If you get bladdered and drive the next day your a drunk driver. Your a drunk driver who got pissed took a nap and jumped in a car, dress it up how you want its the same thing. Its down to the driver to take responsibility for how much they drink.

This post is legally and morally correct.

Agree with you both that all should be punished. However, those who can be proven to do it through malice (drinking whilst driving or straight after) should face a life time ban and those who have been deemed to do it through negligence (drinking the next day for example) should be given a ban and a second chance. If they do it again then they should get the life ban.

The biggest problem at the moment is people getting high and driving.

I have a zero tolerance approach to drinking and driving personally. If I drink 2 or 3 pints of normal lager I know my body will easily get rid of them the next day. If I drink anything more I know the alcohol could still be present so I wouldn't drive.According to Road Safety Scotland, it can take up to 12 hours to be safe to drive after drinking one bottle of wine or four pints of strong lager. The rule of thumb is that each unit of alcohol takes about an hour to process. It takes about 7 hours to break down 3 pints of carling.

If you get bladdered and drive the next day your a drunk driver. Your a drunk driver who got pissed took a nap and jumped in a car, dress it up how you want its the same thing. Its down to the driver to take responsibility for how much they drink.

This post is legally and morally correct.

Agree with you both that all should be punished. However, those who can be proven to do it through malice (drinking whilst driving or straight after) should face a life time ban and those who have been deemed to do it through negligence (drinking the next day for example) should be given a ban and a second chance. If they do it again then they should get the life ban.

The biggest problem at the moment is people getting high and driving.

Yep.Agree with all of that and especially the last sentence.How does a policeman determine a drugged driver then,is it a sobriety test?

What about Weed....ban for life?

f*cking roads be empty.

Oh jesus! Here comes the dope brigade who buys into the 'every ones doing it theory', which is a very popular train of thought, especially amongst young dope heads! Listen son, the nation is not stoned!

Well bring prescription drugs into the equation and I think you will find that the nation is stoned jack.....and less of the son.
I'm probably older than you.

Yep.Agree with all of that and especially the last sentence.How does a policeman determine a drugged driver then,is it a sobriety test?

I think it is yes mate, just the walk in a straight line and the usual other mental and physical tests. It makes it very hard as some people can take drugs and come across as entirely normal when they need to be, same with drink, but then for drink the police can fall back on the tried and tested scientific method of testing.

I have a zero tolerance approach to drinking and driving personally. If I drink 2 or 3 pints of normal lager I know my body will easily get rid of them the next day. If I drink anything more I know the alcohol could still be present so I wouldn't drive.According to Road Safety Scotland, it can take up to 12 hours to be safe to drive after drinking one bottle of wine or four pints of strong lager. The rule of thumb is that each unit of alcohol takes about an hour to process. It takes about 7 hours to break down 3 pints of carling.

If you get bladdered and drive the next day your a drunk driver. Your a drunk driver who got pissed took a nap and jumped in a car, dress it up how you want its the same thing. Its down to the driver to take responsibility for how much they drink.

This post is legally and morally correct.

Yep, I agree

Druggies will get caught and banned

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... uence.html

If you're caught more than once, then yes - instant life ban.

What about Weed....ban for life?

f*cking roads be empty.

Oh jesus! Here comes the dope brigade who buys into the 'every ones doing it theory', which is a very popular train of thought, especially amongst young dope heads! Listen son, the nation is not stoned!

Well bring prescription drugs into the equation and I think you will find that the nation is stoned jack.....and less of the son.
I'm probably older than you.

thats not what you said though is it? You specifically said the roads would be empty if everyone on weed was banned! You may well be older than me, try acting it!