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Re: ' Malky Mackay ' And its very sad that some

Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:33 pm

JBCCFC1927 wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
JBCCFC1927 wrote:
Mynachdy_Bluebird wrote:Unless a really good manager is available with lots of experience we should stick with Malky and his players :ayatollah:


Di Matteo.


what the man who played 11 in the box against Barcelona?

care to explain where the tactics are different?


Because he understands the concept of attacking far better than Malky does. He knew that he needed a certain type player to go from defensive ----> attacking in the blink of an eye and snatch results and they did that. We don't do that. Malky picks players for their high energy like Cowie and Smith who is for some reason one of his favourites.

Di Matteo did it at West Brom and had them counter attacking brilliantly and opening teams up. They finished 11th in their first season so it obviously worked. We won't finish 11th. He implemented the same style at Chelsea and it worked again so he obviously knows how to implement this system to get the results and to defend but not only defend, attack.

Whilst both park the bus, Malky parks the bus and hopes for a set piece or odd chance to win it. Di Matteo parks the bus still puts on a threatening attacking outlet to counter teams. Theres the difference. Now if Malky can wise up and adapt his game so that he understands how to go from defence ---> attack better and getting more threatening players involved then he might just hang to his job.


really are you sure about that?

take last night we attacked with the ball just as much as West Ham did, in the end our shots were on a par with West Ham

we arent where west brom were when Di Matteo took over already an established club in the league compared to our first season. Finish 11th? thats a dreamland for us we arent in the relegation zone thats the prize we are looking for. West Brom were promoted and relegated for years before they even comprehended finishing 11th.

like someone said above your in the skys sports generation anyone who can mock Malky at this moment in time is deluded.

there is absolute no pressure on the man at all from the stands or on this board apart from your attempt

Re: ' Malky Mackay ' And its very sad that some

Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:50 pm

Have to clearly state I'm not yet convinced by MM.
I think any team who spent what we did last season would have been disappointed not to go up. So big upping us in getting promoted is a non starter for me. I've yet to hear him admit he's made a mistake either in team selection or tactics.
He got away with some of the defensive hoofball shit last season, but this year he won't. Opposing teams will punish errors. Marshall's brilliance kept us in the game verses Spurs. But wave after wave of pressure with the inability to keep hold of the ball can only result in one outcome.
The team reminds me of my sex life . It lacks width. Lacks pace. Lacks penetration.
Hoping that Odemwingie proves to be the game changer we need. I truly do wish MM success. He does show passion, is good with the press and shows commitment. He appears to demand the same from his players too. Although 'favourites' playing (you all know who) and late pointless substitutions do worry me. If we continue to play like an away side especially when at home, giving away possession and looking simply to counter attack, then we'll struggle.

Don't think he'll be with us next season. In the Prem or the Championship.

Re: ' Malky Mackay ' And its very sad that some

Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:59 pm

One word on so-called fans who want Malky out after what he has achieved and how he has shaped our squad for this our first EVER season in The Premier League: IGNORANT :shock: :? :( :roll:

Re: ' Malky Mackay ' And its very sad that some

Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:35 pm

Annis I completely agree only idiots would want him sacked at this stage, haven't read the thread but if any do, put them on ignore cos must be mental......

Re: ' Malky Mackay ' And its very sad that some

Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:37 pm

Forever Blue wrote:' Malky Mackay ' And its very sad that some fans can even contemplate sacking him or having a go at him so early on in the season, but everyone is entitled to their opinions/beliefs.

' Malky Mackay Cardiff City '

' First Season.'

Carling Cup Final and took Liverpool to extra time and penalties, made the play-offs. Achieved this on a small budget.


' Second Season '

Champions of the Championship, one of the hardest divisions to get out of in Europe, but not just Champions, led it for more than half the season and became runaway Champions and brought Premier League football to Cardiff for the first time in 51 years.

Achieved this on a good budget.


' Third Season '

Premier League. Amazing start, seem to be able to hold there own, look like being in the bottom 8 all season but will surprise a few.



My personal opinion.
Managers are sacked to quickly.

For me even if were in the bottom 5 all season and relegated, I would give Malky till at least Xmas in the Championship to see if he could bring us back up.


:thumbup:
Your opinions please.


Agree . Amazed at negativity flying round after spurs game . Personally would have settled for 5 points from first 5 games . Not sure why some fans seem to think we have a right to expect something at Fulham either. Over the years they have an excellent home record . The newcastle game is a bigger test / more likely result for me . Would be happy with a point Saturday as with any away game this year. If some are genuinely questioning mm already , frankly that's pathetic .

Re: ' Malky Mackay ' And its very sad that some

Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:08 pm

I'm dreading the day he leaves, as when Everton were sniffing around him in the summer most of us were anxiously awaiting the possible bad news. Be careful what you wish for is the saying for the minority of pricks here

Five games in and because we haven't carved open every side we've faced this season then the pathetic and disloyal few are already questioning our greatest manager in 50 years. Masterminding a sensational win over recent champions Man City with 90 minutes of tactical genius, which was quickly followed with holding the Premier Leagues'only unbeaten side. Since then, a credible draw and performance away to the fast starting, mid table Hull, then losing in injury time to a top 4 side in the UK. Some of the comments I've read this week are painfully embarrassing, but the quantity has long since taken over the quality in this f*cking cyber mental asylum

:roll:

Re: ' Malky Mackay ' And its very sad that some

Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:36 pm

CityGent wrote:I'm dreading the day he leaves, as when Everton were sniffing around him in the summer most of us were anxiously awaiting the possible bad news. Be careful what you wish for is the saying for the minority of pricks here

Five games in and because we haven't carved open every side we've faced this season then the pathetic and disloyal few are already questioning our greatest manager in 50 years. Masterminding a sensational win over recent champions Man City with 90 minutes of tactical genius, which was quickly followed with holding the Premier Leagues'only unbeaten side. Since then, a credible draw and performance away to the fast starting, mid table Hull, then losing in injury time to a top 4 side in the UK. Some of the comments I've read this week are painfully embarrassing, but the quantity has long since taken over the quality in this f*cking cyber mental asylum

:roll:


Attention seekers and people whos football credentials go no further then their xbox. Idiots.

Re: ' Malky Mackay ' And its very sad that some

Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:56 am

CityGent wrote:I'm dreading the day he leaves, as when Everton were sniffing around him in the summer most of us were anxiously awaiting the possible bad news. Be careful what you wish for is the saying for the minority of pricks here

Five games in and because we haven't carved open every side we've faced this season then the pathetic and disloyal few are already questioning our greatest manager in 50 years. Masterminding a sensational win over recent champions Man City with 90 minutes of tactical genius, which was quickly followed with holding the Premier Leagues'only unbeaten side. Since then, a credible draw and performance away to the fast starting, mid table Hull, then losing in injury time to a top 4 side in the UK. Some of the comments I've read this week are painfully embarrassing, but the quantity has long since taken over the quality in this f*cking cyber mental asylum

:roll:




Good post (as usual) from CityGent here, IMHO

Quote: "Be careful what you wish for is the saying for the minority of pr***s here..."

It is always unfortunate that those with the strangest agendas will stand out from the crowd, so to speak. In this case (Malky Out) it is clear to see that they know little (nee nothing) about how far Malky has brought us and how quickly he is moulding a pretty useful side for the battles ahead

Only a few could wish for too much more than survival this season and the signs are that it can be achieved, yet ONE (narrow) defeat in five and some are calling for his head

WOW! Just WOW! :oops: :roll:

Re: ' Malky Mackay ' And its very sad that some

Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:01 am

CityGent wrote:I'm dreading the day he leaves, as when Everton were sniffing around him in the summer most of us were anxiously awaiting the possible bad news. Be careful what you wish for is the saying for the minority of pricks here

Five games in and because we haven't carved open every side we've faced this season then the pathetic and disloyal few are already questioning our greatest manager in 50 years. Masterminding a sensational win over recent champions Man City with 90 minutes of tactical genius, which was quickly followed with holding the Premier Leagues'only unbeaten side. Since then, a credible draw and performance away to the fast starting, mid table Hull, then losing in injury time to a top 4 side in the UK. Some of the comments I've read this week are painfully embarrassing, but the quantity has long since taken over the quality in this f*cking cyber mental asylum

:roll:



Hey Barnett I think he's talking about you :lol: Seems like only 5mins ago you were hero worshiping and brown nosing him as an ITK parody.And have a word with your other aliases too 8-)

Re: ' Malky Mackay ' And its very sad that some

Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:21 am

Sneggyblubird wrote:Hey Barnett I think he's talking about you :lol: Seems like only 5mins ago you were hero worshiping and brown nosing him as an ITK parody.And have a word with your other aliases too 8-)


We'll see this season. I had my Malky account when we were in the Championship and had won it. You might not have noticed but we're in the PL now, an entirely different level. Malky, whilst very astute at one level, I believe is not ready for this level. Thats not a slur on him of any sort as he's a young manager and has years of experience to rack up to learn the trade.

Some of our fans are living in this romantic delusion that he is amazing and has no faults yet its quite obvious to any rational thinking individual that he does, especially tactically. Keep deluding yourselves if you like but the truth will come out as it always does.

I think some of our fans don't want to see the faults in Malky just as they didn't want to see the rebrand happening so they created this pretend world whereby they convinced themselves it wasn't happening and Daya at the time got called all the names under the sun. We all know what happened there don't we.

I know you are trying to drag me into some juvenile argument to try and score points and possibly get me banned but the truth will all come out itself and the truth will be a harsh wake up call for some when they realise how ruthless the business end of the game is in the Premier League.

You can cling on to the Malky love in all you like but Tan will put results and future profit expectations before it.

Re: ' Malky Mackay ' And its very sad that some

Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:04 am

JBCCFC1927 wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:Hey Barnett I think he's talking about you :lol: Seems like only 5mins ago you were hero worshiping and brown nosing him as an ITK parody.And have a word with your other aliases too 8-)


We'll see this season. I had my Malky account when we were in the Championship and had won it. You might not have noticed but we're in the PL now, an entirely different level. Malky, whilst very astute at one level, I believe is not ready for this level. Thats not a slur on him of any sort as he's a young manager and has years of experience to rack up to learn the trade.

Some of our fans are living in this romantic delusion that he is amazing and has no faults yet its quite obvious to any rational thinking individual that he does, especially tactically. Keep deluding yourselves if you like but the truth will come out as it always does.

I think some of our fans don't want to see the faults in Malky just as they didn't want to see the rebrand happening so they created this pretend world whereby they convinced themselves it wasn't happening and Daya at the time got called all the names under the sun. We all know what happened there don't we.

I know you are trying to drag me into some juvenile argument to try and score points and possibly get me banned but the truth will all come out itself and the truth will be a harsh wake up call for some when they realise how ruthless the business end of the game is in the Premier League.

You can cling on to the Malky love in all you like but Tan will put results and future profit expectations before it.



Right then smart arse answer this,who in your (exalted and in depth knowledge of what it takes to be a manager) opinion is a faultless manager.I can name many who've forgotten more than you'll ever know about football that say Malky is a very astute and top manager.Can you name anyone thats not a no-name twerp that thinks otherwise.

Re: ' Malky Mackay ' And its very sad that some

Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:04 am

Sneggyblubird wrote:
Right then smart arse answer this,who in your (exalted and in depth knowledge of what it takes to be a manager) opinion is a faultless manager.I can name many who've forgotten more than you'll ever know about football that say Malky is a very astute and top manager.Can you name anyone thats not a no-name twerp that thinks otherwise.


Di Matteo is a better manager than Malky.

Re: ' Malky Mackay ' And its very sad that some

Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:26 am

JBCCFC1927 wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:
Right then smart arse answer this,who in your (exalted and in depth knowledge of what it takes to be a manager) opinion is a faultless manager.I can name many who've forgotten more than you'll ever know about football that say Malky is a very astute and top manager.Can you name anyone thats not a no-name twerp that thinks otherwise.


Di Matteo is a better manager than Malky.


For someone who thinks he's the dogs bollocks you can't read very well can you.I asked you to name me a faultless manager and as good as Di Matteo is he's not faultless.Also could you answer the 2nd part of my previous post.I'm waiting with baited breath for those famous footballing pillars of society who agree with your stance on Malky.C'mon mate this should be easy for such a high flying academic such as yourself.

Re: ' Malky Mackay ' And its very sad that some

Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:34 am

Sneggyblubird wrote:
For someone who thinks he's the dogs bollocks you can't read very well can you.I asked you to name me a faultless manager and as good as Di Matteo is he's not faultless.Also could you answer the 2nd part of my previous post.I'm waiting with baited breath for those famous footballing pillars of society who agree with your stance on Malky.C'mon mate this should be easy for such a high flying academic such as yourself.


Where did I say I wanted a faultless manager though? All I said was Malky had his faults and people refuse to see them.

Also, you insinuate that I think I am the dogs bollocks (false) and then slate me for not reading yet your use of grammar (lack of question mark) undermines your point entirely.

Whilst Di Matteo has faults he understands the concept of defending and counter attacking far better than Malky as shown numerous times from his spells in the Premier League.

You try, of course, to be sarcastic and type in a tone and manner that casts you off as an intellectual but those of us who can see through the bullshit can unequivocally tell that you are in fact a bit daft. You're fooling nobody.

You're entitled as much as the next person to view Malky as this wonderful manager who does no wrong just as much as someone is entitled to think that Malky is out of his depth. If you can't handle opinion then I suggest you find your local primary school and ask to attend their latest classes. I'm sure your incomprehensible nature will fit in just fine there.

Re: ' Malky Mackay ' And its very sad that some

Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:17 pm

I don't want MM sacked. Far from it.
I just rather we went down fighting instead of the same Championship style negative, defensive shit. Especially when we're at home. We must play with more pace and width. For the love of God quit the long balls from the back completely missing the midfield and retain possession. Allowing the opposition that many attempts and that much possession when we are at home is asking for trouble. Don't care if it's Real Madrid or Northampton Town. Sooner or later one will go in.
MM has to learn quick as I don't think Tan will allow failure now we've reach the promised land.
I don't pretend to have all the answers. Width? Speed? Odemwingie out wide? Perhaps give Harris a few minutes to see how he gets on? Noone is gagging for the chance too. Campbell is also not a lone striker. Needs someone with him. Cornelius and Odemwingie sounds interesting. Hope the Dane sorts out his fitness.

............................Marshall..................................
KTC............Caulker..............Amondarain..........Taylor
.............................Medal...................................
Noone/Harris..............Kimbo..................Whittingham
.................Odemwingie.....Cornelius.......................

Re: ' Malky Mackay ' And its very sad that some

Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:20 pm

Northamptonblues wrote:I don't want MM sacked. Far from it.
I just rather we went down fighting instead of the same Championship style negative, defensive shit. Especially when we're at home. We must play with more pace and width. For the love of God quit the long balls from the back completely missing the midfield and retain possession. Allowing the opposition that many attempts and that much possession when we are at home is asking for trouble. Don't care if it's Real Madrid or Northampton Town. Sooner or later one will go in.
MM has to learn quick as I don't think Tan will allow failure now we've reach the promised land.
I don't pretend to have all the answers. Width? Speed? Odemwingie out wide? Perhaps give Harris a few minutes to see how he gets on? Noone is gagging for the chance too. Campbell is also not a lone striker. Needs someone with him. Cornelius and Odemwingie sounds interesting. Hope the Dane sorts out his fitness.

............................Marshall..................................
KTC............Caulker..............Amondarain..........Taylor
.............................Medal...................................
Noone/Harris..............Kimbo..................Whittingham
.................Odemwingie.....Cornelius.......................


Agreed. Id love Malky to prove me wrong but why is he starting Smith ahead of Noone FFS? Smith should be a fringe player at best when injuries are a problem, not a regular sub. Its like Malky is afraid or lacks confidence in the teams ability to control a game and punish the opposition. We actually can pass but we need the attacking threat to take that and turn it into goals in open play.

Re: ' Malky Mackay ' And its very sad that some

Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:48 pm

I've never said you weren't entitled to your opinion in whatever guise you choose to voice it but as this is an internet message board and all opinions are open to scrutiny and criticism even yours.To this end I've tried to get you to explain futher and justify your stance with referance with and/or facts,something which you should be used to being an academic and all.Even Angelis would acknowledge that fact.Oh,and I know when you resort to corecting my typo's and grammar your struggling in your childish way to point score.I admit to my part of trying of trying to wind you up(easy)but you and angelis' :roll: stance on malky is the most extreme of views on the scale you should expect interogation of the extreme sort.I accept your opinion however you must accept that if you can't explain yourself to an adequate degree you will get mullered,something seen on here many times before.Son,the saying Butcher and Block comes to mind when I've read all your posts in all your guises and you seem to be one desperately trying to be the other.


P.S.Stillwaiting for you to answer properly.I live in hope.

Re: ' Malky Mackay ' And its very sad that some

Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:16 pm

yes dont forget that the supposedly cream of the prem jack scum took about 10 games to even score a goal in the prem, ok im exaggerating but it was amusing at the time as was their great start this year. theyve done ok with revolving door managers but if we sack malky would we get someone better? i doubt it. when you look at what he has done and our premier league start has hardly been terrible i dont know why the panic. if we head into the bottom 3 and look like staying there would i want him sacked then? maybe, as i think we have the players not to be there. but i dont think it will happen

Re: ' Malky Mackay ' And its very sad that some

Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:37 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:
JBCCFC1927 wrote:
Mynachdy_Bluebird wrote:Unless a really good manager is available with lots of experience we should stick with Malky and his players :ayatollah:


Di Matteo.


what the man who played 11 in the box against Barcelona?

care to explain where the tactics are different?


Aye The six yard box as well :laughing6:

Re: ' Malky Mackay ' And its very sad that some

Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:00 pm

I am actually shocked at what people are saying on here about Malky, who honestly thought when he first came here in 3 seasons time we would be playing in the premier league and not doing to badly as many of you seem to think. Yes we were disappointing in the first game, but since then I cant see much fault in the teams performance. Everyone is saying we were sitting back against spurs and I do agree. But do you really think Malky went out and told his players just defend for the draw. If you think that you are deluded, yes he would of said dont over do it going forward and be patient try and hit them on the counter. People seem to forget that we have played Man City, Everton and Spurs(who i think will win it) at home. I dont think anyone else has had 3 harder games, especially teams up for relegation. Malky tactical nouse is the best I have seen from a city manager, on the road maybe a bit too cautious at times. He is playing the same way this year has he did last year and the year before. It has certainly worked up until now. One home defeat to spurs who has a better player in every position compared to us and people think he is not good for the club!! Get a grip and support the club and our manager, if we had lost all of our games and no goal fair enough!!
Onwards and upwards following the bluebirds together :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :malky: :malky:

Re: ' Malky Mackay ' And its very sad that some

Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:13 pm

I'm expecting some new members to suddenly appear to support Barnet :lol: :lol:

Re: ' Malky Mackay ' And its very sad that some

Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:43 pm

Sneggyblubird wrote:P.S.Stillwaiting for you to answer properly.I live in hope.


I have given my views in plenty of threads. Do some searching and you shall find all the answers you need. Fed up of repeating myself to be honest.

Re: ' Malky Mackay ' And its very sad that some

Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:34 am

JBCCFC1927 wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:P.S.Stillwaiting for you to answer properly.I live in hope.


I have given my views in plenty of threads. Do some searching and you shall find all the answers you need. Fed up of repeating myself to be honest.



Nice cop out mate.1-0 to me methinks :lol: Like I said,just gimme the name of one high profile person who has been quoted as saying Malky's tactically inept.Oh and help me out here,which one of your aliases am I to look into to find the infomation you can't be arsed to tell me now.