" WE NEED TO CREATE MORE "

What pisses me of is Swansea had 51% possession away to spurs and we have 39% at home! We really need to change our style and believe we can best these teams, Swanseas players are no better than ours they just believe in themselves and pass the ball not wallop it turner style

Look I hope the Swans crash and burn and the sooner the better but right now they are in thier 3rd season in the PL and have developed thier squad at every opportunity. In PL experience alone the Swansea squad is ahead of ours, quality is debateable, but it would have to be one hell of an arguement to win your assertion that thier players are no better than ours.

Do we have a Michu or a Bony not to mention that throughout thier team they have players who are comfortable with the ball.

yes swans had 51% but what part field was it in? if team as 39% and win who is happier? possession is not a reflection on game just a stat! 10 shots on target no goals 1 shot on target scores who is happier? and we all know that stats are manipulated to suite the person using them! yes swans far better in possession but then they have had more practice

And what part of the field do you think we had our possession in coz it certainly wasn't spurs half. Anyway I'm off to bed had a titful of today

We need to create more? Are we going to outplay a Spurs side who have spent £108 million on new players this summer? Of course we aren't! Attacking a team as good as Spurs to give them space in our final third would be suicide! We used the same tactics today as we used to beat Man City at home. Lloris should have been sent off, there didn't seem much wrong with our goal and it was a foul on Taylor leading up to their goal. I think Malky knows what he's doing. Aside from Man Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal, we won't play another team with Spurs' quality at home this season. I think we will be alright.

How anyone can moan at Turner today is baffling. Marshall kept passing it to Turner and the only option he had the majority of the time was to knock it down the channel for Campbell. People don't understand that when there are no options, a channel ball is a good ball as more often than not, their full back has to deal with it, usually resulting in us winning back possession or winning a throw deep into their half as the full back has to clear it into touch.

Fair play you havent got a clue

Thank you for your constructive response.

Weve sorted out Connolly, we now need to look at Turner , Still baffled why he gets the nod over Hudson who was our second best player last season ... Answers on a postcard ?

Absolute cobblers - Turner was very good indeed today!

Weve sorted out Connolly, we now need to look at Turner , Still baffled why he gets the nod over Hudson who was our second best player last season ... Answers on a postcard ?

Absolute cobblers - Turner was very good indeed today!

Agreed. Would Hudson have been able to slide tackle Walker when he made that blistering run through in the first half? Not a chance! The 26 million pounds Soldado's only chance was the rebound off the crossbar. Our centre backs were excellent.

Weve sorted out Connolly, we now need to look at Turner , Still baffled why he gets the nod over Hudson who was our second best player last season ... Answers on a postcard ?

Absolute cobblers - Turner was very good indeed today!

Hes a good defender but he has to be when you give it straight back to the opposition. Sorry he's not Premier level.

Weve sorted out Connolly, we now need to look at Turner , Still baffled why he gets the nod over Hudson who was our second best player last season ... Answers on a postcard ?

Absolute cobblers - Turner was very good indeed today!

Agreed. Would Hudson have been able to slide tackle Walker when he made that blistering run through in the first half? Not a chance! The 26 million pounds Soldado's only chance was the rebound off the crossbar. Our centre backs were excellent.

More rubbish

Taylor was running away from his man and the ball on occasions today rather than go and attack it.

Watch out for the onslaught because you mentioned Taylor mate

Weve sorted out Connolly, we now need to look at Turner , Still baffled why he gets the nod over Hudson who was our second best player last season ... Answers on a postcard ?

Absolute cobblers - Turner was very good indeed today!

Agreed. Would Hudson have been able to slide tackle Walker when he made that blistering run through in the first half? Not a chance! The 26 million pounds Soldado's only chance was the rebound off the crossbar. Our centre backs were excellent.

Defenders need to do more than slide tackle . They have to play with the ball at their feet in this league and pass the ball out of trouble not hoof and hope.

Only issue for me is how shy our players are to shoot, would create more for ourselfs.

I didn't see the whole game, only the MOTD highlights. Obviously we were under the cosh for the most of it and highlights don't tell the whole story, but it didn't look as if we played that badly. We created chances, but we didn't put them away.

I wouldn't mind seeing a target man for Campbell to play off - maybe Cornelius when he's fit again. I'd like to think that with Theophile at RB, Bellers can get forward more without having to look over his shoulder all the time.

As for Turner, he made a couple of decent tackles, though some of his hoofball tendencies are annoying, yes.

Overall, Spurs should have won by more but they didn't because our keeper had a cracking game. We need to be more clinical; chances aren't going to grow on trees in the Prem so we need to make sure we take them when they come. No need to panic, I think we're slightly better than we give ourselves credit for to be honest.

Weve sorted out Connolly, we now need to look at Turner , Still baffled why he gets the nod over Hudson who was our second best player last season ... Answers on a postcard ?

Absolute cobblers - Turner was very good indeed today!

Agreed. Would Hudson have been able to slide tackle Walker when he made that blistering run through in the first half? Not a chance! The 26 million pounds Soldado's only chance was the rebound off the crossbar. Our centre backs were excellent.

More rubbish

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We have basically just played five away games. Our home games were against top 6 clubs.

We'll get right into fulham.

We defo need to play 2 up top!

Weve sorted out Connolly, we now need to look at Turner , Still baffled why he gets the nod over Hudson who was our second best player last season ... Answers on a postcard ?

Absolute cobblers - Turner was very good indeed today!

Agreed. Would Hudson have been able to slide tackle Walker when he made that blistering run through in the first half? Not a chance! The 26 million pounds Soldado's only chance was the rebound off the crossbar. Our centre backs were excellent.

More rubbish

Point proven by robinsonisgod with facts to back it up. Turner was outstanding but lets slag him off because he has to hit a long channel ball every now and again because there are no other options. Still, according to Polo these stats are "more rubbish".

turner was class. but these hoof balls are more than "every now and then"

Weve sorted out Connolly, we now need to look at Turner , Still baffled why he gets the nod over Hudson who was our second best player last season ... Answers on a postcard ?

Absolute cobblers - Turner was very good indeed today!

Agreed. Would Hudson have been able to slide tackle Walker when he made that blistering run through in the first half? Not a chance! The 26 million pounds Soldado's only chance was the rebound off the crossbar. Our centre backs were excellent.

More rubbish

Point proven by robinsonisgod with facts to back it up. Turner was outstanding but lets slag him off because he has to hit a long channel ball every now and again because there are no other options. Still, according to Polo these stats are "more rubbish".

The "more rubbish" bit was aimed at your claims Soldados only chance was the one off the cross bar.

So yes, more rubbish from Dr Nonsense.

We need to create more? Are we going to outplay a Spurs side who have spent £108 million on new players this summer? Of course we aren't! Attacking a team as good as Spurs to give them space in our final third would be suicide! We used the same tactics today as we used to beat Man City at home. Lloris should have been sent off, there didn't seem much wrong with our goal and it was a foul on Taylor leading up to their goal. I think Malky knows what he's doing. Aside from Man Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal, we won't play another team with Spurs' quality at home this season. I think we will be alright.

How anyone can moan at Turner today is baffling. Marshall kept passing it to Turner and the only option he had the majority of the time was to knock it down the channel for Campbell. People don't understand that when there are no options, a channel ball is a good ball as more often than not, their full back has to deal with it, usually resulting in us winning back possession or winning a throw deep into their half as the full back has to clear it into touch.

largely agree with this - obviously the 73 super saves Marshy made had an impact as well, but in isolation this is a sound comment

Weve sorted out Connolly, we now need to look at Turner , Still baffled why he gets the nod over Hudson who was our second best player last season ... Answers on a postcard ?

Absolute cobblers - Turner was very good indeed today!

Agreed. Would Hudson have been able to slide tackle Walker when he made that blistering run through in the first half? Not a chance! The 26 million pounds Soldado's only chance was the rebound off the crossbar. Our centre backs were excellent.

More rubbish

Point proven by robinsonisgod with facts to back it up. Turner was outstanding but lets slag him off because he has to hit a long channel ball every now and again because there are no other options. Still, according to Polo these stats are "more rubbish".

The "more rubbish" bit was aimed at your claims Soldados only chance was the one off the cross bar.

So yes, more rubbish from Dr Nonsense.

If that nickname was aimed at me, I like it. Might even think about changing my username! Here are you stats for Soldado. With 29 shots you have to admit it's a pretty lame return from your main man upfront.

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No it was aimed at Tonteg, never noticed you before.

So Soldado had 3 shots on goal not 1 then. So I was right and Tonteg talking rubbish again. Nothing new there.

As you were.

Weve sorted out Connolly, we now need to look at Turner , Still baffled why he gets the nod over Hudson who was our second best player last season ... Answers on a postcard ?

Absolute cobblers - Turner was very good indeed today!

Agreed. Would Hudson have been able to slide tackle Walker when he made that blistering run through in the first half? Not a chance! The 26 million pounds Soldado's only chance was the rebound off the crossbar. Our centre backs were excellent.

More rubbish

Point proven by robinsonisgod with facts to back it up. Turner was outstanding but lets slag him off because he has to hit a long channel ball every now and again because there are no other options. Still, according to Polo these stats are "more rubbish".

The "more rubbish" bit was aimed at your claims Soldados only chance was the one off the cross bar.

So yes, more rubbish from Dr Nonsense.

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I don't think he's talking nonsense, when turner has the ball take a look to see howmany options he has. Not many only Medel
Comes to him and he's got someone marking him! down the line is the next best thing? playing either whitts or Kim more central would help as they have the composure to deal with the ball under pressure

Creating more against teams would be ideal but we need to take the chances we are creating. We dont create enough chances to walk the ball into he net like we sometimes try, we got into good positions to shoot and didnt.
Decision making today was not great.

I thought Turner defended well but his punts upfeild were unbelievable, more worrying was it seemed to be a plan as Marshall was looking for him at every opptunity.

Creating more against teams would be ideal but we need to take the chances we are creating. We dont create enough chances to walk the ball into he net like we sometimes try, we got into good positions to shoot and didnt.
Decision making today was not great.

I thought Turner defended well but his punts upfeild were unbelievable, more worrying was it seemed to be a plan as Marshall was looking for him at every opptunity.

Well apparently turning over posession to the opposition is the "next best thing" if Medel is being marked

I watched the extended highlights on Sky last night and he was pumping the ball when not even under pressure, so its obviously a tactic Malky wants to go with. Its a shame because his defending has been very good so far this season.

Creating more against teams would be ideal but we need to take the chances we are creating. We dont create enough chances to walk the ball into he net like we sometimes try, we got into good positions to shoot and didnt.
Decision making today was not great.

I thought Turner defended well but his punts upfeild were unbelievable, more worrying was it seemed to be a plan as Marshall was looking for him at every opptunity.

Well apparently turning over posession to the opposition is the "next best thing" if Medel is being marked

I watched the extended highlights on Sky last night and he was pumping the ball when not even under pressure, so its obviously a tactic Malky wants to go with. Its a shame because his defending has been very good so far this season.

I thought Medel was immense yesterday, his best game ive seen of him. Closed down very well but won the ball more often as well.

You can see sometimes he doesnt have a lot of options but as you say often he was under no pressure.

Its strange as I would say most of our good work this season has been with the ball on the floor, mainly through Kim but others as well.

Creating more against teams would be ideal but we need to take the chances we are creating. We dont create enough chances to walk the ball into he net like we sometimes try, we got into good positions to shoot and didnt.
Decision making today was not great.

I thought Turner defended well but his punts upfeild were unbelievable, more worrying was it seemed to be a plan as Marshall was looking for him at every opptunity.

Well apparently turning over posession to the opposition is the "next best thing" if Medel is being marked

I watched the extended highlights on Sky last night and he was pumping the ball when not even under pressure, so its obviously a tactic Malky wants to go with. Its a shame because his defending has been very good so far this season.

Watch the highlights closers next time then, the movement of the city players is poor, Medel goes to him to create space, but no other player recognises this? Which leads to the next tactic of going long? Would u agree?

No I do not agree. It has been happening for the 2 years Malky Mckay has been in charge its not something new thats just started happening because we have moved up a level.

Unfortunately in the Premiership, especially against the top teams you give it to them and it takes a lot longer to get the ball back than in the Championship.

Yes there are occasions when players are under pressure then get it upfield away from danger, but more often than not he does it under no pressure.

He can go to the full back or back to the keeper, surely this is better than giving it away cheaply?

Nevermind watching the highlights closely I suggest you go to Specsavers or go and watch rugby if you cannot see this.

No I do not agree. It has been happening for the 2 years Malky Mckay has been in charge its not something new thats just started happening because we have moved up a level.

Unfortunately in the Premiership, especially against the top teams you give it to them and it takes a lot longer to get the ball back than in the Championship.

Yes there are occasions when players are under pressure then get it upfield away from danger, but more often than not he does it under no pressure.

He can go to the full back or back to the keeper, surely this is better than giving it away cheaply?

Nevermind watching the highlights closely I suggest you go to Specsavers or go and watch rugby if you cannot see this.

If Turner went back to the keeper, Marshall would kick it aimlessly up the pitch under pressure. Would you rather that instead of Turner playing a long channel ball which is less likely to come straight back at us? Turner was receiving the ball in the left back position from Marshall. Taylor was pushing on ahead but he was marked, so Turner's only options were to either play it long down the line where Campbell was making a run onto their full back (who's less likely to handle the long ball than their centre back if Marshall kicked it), or to go back to the keeper so Marshall could kick it. Out of the 2 options (and yes, Turner only had those 2 options because Tottenham closed us down well and he had no options when looking up), I would rather Turner play the long ball down the channel every time.

Nonsense, back to Marshall, Marshall to the full back or gary or Caulker, or even back to Turner himself. Keep possesion, try and work some angles, not play in straight lines for f**k sake.

i can count on one hand the number of times Turner has pulled off these 80 yard balls hes been trying the last 2 years I dont know why Malky persists with it.

By the way, how many chances did Soldado get again? Muppet. Blind f*cking muppet.

Nonsense, back to Marshall, Marshall to the full back or gary or Caulker, or even back to Turner himself. Keep possesion, try and work some angles, not play in straight lines for f**k sake.

i can count on one hand the number of times Turner has pulled off these 80 yard balls hes been trying the last 2 years I dont know why Malky persists with it.

By the way, how many chances did Soldado get again? Muppet. Blind f*cking muppet.

Turner completed more passes to Marshall than anyone else (9).

He completed only 2/12 of long passes. One to Campbell and one to Whittingham.

Got to agree that 12 attempted long passes is too much for a player on a less technical position to make. However he was being constantly put in positions of difficulty and under pressure by passes from Marshall, Caulker, Medel and Taylor.

Apart from Marshall the player e completed the most passes to was Kimbo (3)

No I do not agree. It has been happening for the 2 years Malky Mckay has been in charge its not something new thats just started happening because we have moved up a level.

Unfortunately in the Premiership, especially against the top teams you give it to them and it takes a lot longer to get the ball back than in the Championship.

Yes there are occasions when players are under pressure then get it upfield away from danger, but more often than not he does it under no pressure.

He can go to the full back or back to the keeper, surely this is better than giving it away cheaply?

Nevermind watching the highlights closely I suggest you go to Specsavers or go and watch rugby if you cannot see this.

Alrite calm down its only a discussion. I agree with what you say, but I know Taylor Gunnerson and Marshall ain't very good when under pressure, Malky knows this too so he must tell him to lump it. Give it to Caulker I say see what he does with it time after time.? Agree?

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No I do not agree. It has been happening for the 2 years Malky Mckay has been in charge its not something new thats just started happening because we have moved up a level.

Unfortunately in the Premiership, especially against the top teams you give it to them and it takes a lot longer to get the ball back than in the Championship.

Yes there are occasions when players are under pressure then get it upfield away from danger, but more often than not he does it under no pressure.

He can go to the full back or back to the keeper, surely this is better than giving it away cheaply?

Nevermind watching the highlights closely I suggest you go to Specsavers or go and watch rugby if you cannot see this.

Alrite calm down its only a discussion. I agree with what you say, but I know Taylor Gunnerson and Marshall ain't very good when under pressure, Malky knows this too so he must tell him to lump it. Give it to Caulker I say see what he does with it time after time.? Agree?

Disagree