SUGAR MAN LOSES THE PLOT

Earlier today on Mike's board someone slated the two old ladies that go to every away game and wear red, they always sit down the front, one is Mark Jennings mum, the other is Paul Went's mum.

Sugarman really had a go at them, they have taken the posts off now, but what a sad bitter twisted tw*t he really is, I used to back him when dayo had his war with him, I can see why now though, sad lonely man.

Below is some of the posts he put on regarding these two ladies.


Care about what? The re-brand? I would have imagined that it was blatantly obvious to even the dullest of this board's contributors that I've been somewhat upset about the destruction of the Cardiff City's traditional identity by a Malaysian megalomaniac who wears his trousers around his tits, but it seems I may have been wrong.....

As for that pair of daft old bats dancing around in Emperor Tan's colours whilst sporting ridiculous red wigs, I'm afraid I don't consider them worthy of any respect whatsoever. Contempt maybe, but respect? Certainly not.

Unlike you, I'm not ageist. I don't care whether somebody is sixteen or sixty - if they're wearing Tan's colours and embracing his re-brand, they'll get no respect from me.

As for your belief that the women in question haven't missed a game home or away since childhood, I think somebody's been telling you porkies. Either that or you have an active imagination.



Yes, those are the ones he means.

Hideous pair of crones, aren't they?


Harry Monk wrote on Tue, 17 September 2013 11:55

That's a bit of an unneseccary, and extremely juvenile comment to make.


It was accurate, though.



I have respect for those who deserve it. In my opinion, that pair certainly don't.

Maybe he want s em to dress like spiders, or wear a veil!!

They the ladies that wore the red wigs to hull last season?

They were also at Hull last Saturday. The way Sugarman spoke about them you'd think they were the devils incarnate. They're just supporting the team ffs, a team that now happen to play in red.

I thought I saw them at West Ham too.

He needs to take a step back from football for a while.

Seems intent on ruining other people's enjoyment by reading that, his choice not to support the club anymore.

Reminds me of Roathie

Wouldn't be surprised if Roathie was him trying to cause a stir.

Pretty pathetic even for him
Is that Paul Went as in the ex City player Gwynn?

I doubt it, Paul Went is 63 years old and from the east end

I have always found TLG to be very abusive but he seems to get away with it on
CCMB. I think the reason may be him and Mike Morris have the same barber.
As for what he said about those two ladies it just goes to show he has no spine.

He's not the only one who is verging on mental health problems over a fxcking colour. There are loads of them on that site and plenty of depressed saddos on this forum who i thank allah for every day that i don't associate with

Exiled Jirga, Alfie, Bobby the Bhoy etc are the biggest self-pitying wankers i'm grateful i've never met. The same goes for this forum. Most were distraught when we left Ninian Park and instead of embracing progress would rather watch through blue-tinted specs of the past. The rebrand was the straw that broke the camels back for the majority, who as the crowds got bigger and bigger, their own self-importance started waning

The problem they're facing is they want the bubble to burst and can't stand the fact that it won't be long before we're an established premier league club. They've a long painful wait ahead, whilst myself like 25,000 others are loving every bloody minute

Tottenham on Sunday. How can you not look forward to that?!!

Well said. Reading Alfies And Jirgas posts is like going to the dentist, bloody painful.

They the ladies that wore the red wigs to hull last season?

They were also at Hull last Saturday. The way Sugarman spoke about them you'd think they were the devils incarnate. They're just supporting the team ffs, a team that now happen to play in red.

I thought I saw them at West Ham too.

Seen them at Pompey a couple seasons ago, Palace for the CC semi and Wolves last season. Nice, good natured ladies who love the city.

I have always found TLG to be very abusive but he seems to get away with it on
CCMB. I think the reason may be him and Mike Morris have the same barber.
As for what he said about those two ladies it just goes to show he has no spine.

So you accuse him of being abusive then have a pop at Mike Morris for being bald

Even though I don't agree with TLGs comments I thought that we live in a land where free speech is treasured..?

With all due respect to the ladies in question people have called my parents far worse over the years and if members of their familes want a word with him because of it then they have every right to do so but for his comments to be highlighted on here by someone who clearly has a personal agenda against him then I feel its more 'out of order' then the actual comments made!!!!

Even though I don't agree with TLGs comments I thought that we live in a land where free speech is treasured..?

With all due respect to the ladies in question people have called my parents far worse over the years and if members of their familes want a word with him because of it then they have every right to do so but for his comments to be highlighted on here by someone who clearly has a personal agenda against him then I feel its more 'out of order' then the actual comments made!!!!

Why have you got to turn everything around to you?

Even though I don't agree with TLGs comments I thought that we live in a land where free speech is treasured..?

With all due respect to the ladies in question people have called my parents far worse over the years and if members of their familes want a word with him because of it then they have every right to do so but for his comments to be highlighted on here by someone who clearly has a personal agenda against him then I feel its more 'out of order' then the actual comments made!!!!

And of course this post is nothing to do with the fact you have a personal agenda against Gwyn either

I am sure if it was anyone other than Gwyn who highlighted TLG being a prick you would be siding with them.

Captain Contradict strikes again

Even though I don't agree with TLGs comments I thought that we live in a land where free speech is treasured..?

With all due respect to the ladies in question people have called my parents far worse over the years and if members of their familes want a word with him because of it then they have every right to do so but for his comments to be highlighted on here by someone who clearly has a personal agenda against him then I feel its more 'out of order' then the actual comments made!!!!

Why have you got to turn everything around to you?

ok then I should rephrase that to 'I'm sure people have said far worse about all our parents over the years'. Sorry for making my comment too personal was offensive to some

He's not the only one who is verging on mental health problems over a fxcking colour. There are loads of them on that site and plenty of depressed saddos on this forum who i thank allah for every day that i don't associate with

Exiled Jirga, Alfie, Bobby the Bhoy etc are the biggest self-pitying wankers i'm grateful i've never met. The same goes for this forum. Most were distraught when we left Ninian Park and instead of embracing progress would rather watch through blue-tinted specs of the past. The rebrand was the straw that broke the camels back for the majority, who as the crowds got bigger and bigger, their own self-importance started waning

The problem they're facing is they want the bubble to burst and can't stand the fact that it won't be long before we're an established premier league club. They've a long painful wait ahead, whilst myself like 25,000 others are loving every bloody minute

Tottenham on Sunday. How can you not look forward to that?!!

Bloody hell

Have a nice day Paulie

Even though I don't agree with TLGs comments I thought that we live in a land where free speech is treasured..?

With all due respect to the ladies in question people have called my parents far worse over the years and if members of their familes want a word with him because of it then they have every right to do so but for his comments to be highlighted on here by someone who clearly has a personal agenda against him then I feel its more 'out of order' then the actual comments made!!!!

And of course this post is nothing to do with the fact you have a personal agenda against Gwyn either

I am sure if it was anyone other than Gwyn who highlighted TLG being a prick you would be siding with them.

Captain Contradict strikes again

Sorry but it was Gwyn who strted this topic and if it was another else then I would take the same line. Ive only ever met TLG once and probably unlikely to cross paths with him again but we've all read far worse on forums and hands up some coming from me but are these comments really worth highlighting..? Really..?

Even though I don't agree with TLGs comments I thought that we live in a land where free speech is treasured..?

With all due respect to the ladies in question people have called my parents far worse over the years and if members of their familes want a word with him because of it then they have every right to do so but for his comments to be highlighted on here by someone who clearly has a personal agenda against him then I feel its more 'out of order' then the actual comments made!!!!

Why have you got to turn everything around to you?

ok then I should rephrase that to 'I'm sure people have said far worse about all our parents over the years'. Sorry for making my comment too personal was offensive to some

Who said I was offended

Just pointing out youve always got to turn it around to you.

Two old ladies get verbally assaulted and its "Oh my parents have been called far worst...."

Besides, given your history of assualting people both physically and verbally I dont think you are in the best position to say what is morally correct do you?

So if people get offended by such comments then maybe a football ground on a Saturday afternoon isn't for them

Well said. Reading Alfies And Jirgas posts is like going to the dentist, bloody painful.

If you think the dentist is painful you should try reading Barry Chuckles' posts. You ain't seen nothing yet.

So if people get offended by such comments then maybe a football ground on a Saturday afternoon isn't for them

My apologies to the rebrand haters for the earlier comment. You're the biggest dickhead who posts on the boards. An unadulterated embarrassment of a human being

So if people get offended by such comments then maybe a football ground on a Saturday afternoon isn't for them

My apologies to the rebrand haters for the earlier comment. You're the biggest dickhead who posts on the boards. An unadulterated embarrassment of a human being

and your point being ?

So if people get offended by such comments then maybe a football ground on a Saturday afternoon isn't for them

The point is two older women, someones mothers, possibly someones grandmothers, have been pinpointed and targeted by someone on the forum in a horrible way. It wasn't banter or light hearted jibes between two posters who can take that sort of thing, he even went further to reenforce how he felt of such people and how those who wear red and just get on with things don't deserve respect.

The point is, when the likes of me, you, Polo, Bluebird1977 and the rest post at one another I don't take it in any way of malice and I certainly don't post with any malice intended ever. If anyone ever takes such in a wrong way, although no malice intended, I would apologise to them.

The Lone Gunmen went full out on trying to belittle the two women in question of whom are also unlikely to be able to defend themselves as I doubt they are forum members.

Ask yourself Adam, would you like said things said about your grandmother/mother?

'As for that pair of daft old bats dancing around in Emperor Tan's colours whilst sporting ridiculous red wigs, I'm afraid I don't consider them worthy of any respect whatsoever. Contempt maybe, but respect? Certainly not.'

I highly doubt it especially if they weren't on the forum and couldn't respond.

Even though I don't agree with TLGs comments I thought that we live in a land where free speech is treasured..?

With all due respect to the ladies in question people have called my parents far worse over the years and if members of their familes want a word with him because of it then they have every right to do so but for his comments to be highlighted on here by someone who clearly has a personal agenda against him then I feel its more 'out of order' then the actual comments made!!!!

And of course this post is nothing to do with the fact you have a personal agenda against Gwyn either

I am sure if it was anyone other than Gwyn who highlighted TLG being a prick you would be siding with them.

Captain Contradict strikes again

Sorry but it was Gwyn who strted this topic and if it was another else then I would take the same line. Ive only ever met TLG once and probably unlikely to cross paths with him again but we've all read far worse on forums and hands up some coming from me but are these comments really worth highlighting..? Really..?

A load of bollocks and you know it.

If it was Gwyn who made these comments you would be all over it like a tramp on chips.

FACT

So if people get offended by such comments then maybe a football ground on a Saturday afternoon isn't for them

The point is two older women, someones mothers, possibly someones grandmothers, have been pinpointed and targeted by someone on the forum in a horrible way. It wasn't banter or light hearted jibes between two posters who can take that sort of thing, he even went further to reenforce how he felt of such people and how those who wear red and just get on with things don't deserve respect.

The point is, when the likes of me, you, Polo, Bluebird1977 and the rest post at one another I don't take it in any way of malice and I certainly don't post with any malice intended ever. If anyone ever takes such in a wrong way, although no malice intended, I would apologise to them.

The Lone Gunmen went full out on trying to belittle the two women in question of whom are also unlikely to be able to defend themselves as I doubt they are forum members.

Ask yourself Adam, would you like said things said about your grandmother/mother?

'As for that pair of daft old bats dancing around in Emperor Tan's colours whilst sporting ridiculous red wigs, I'm afraid I don't consider them worthy of any respect whatsoever. Contempt maybe, but respect? Certainly not.'

I highly doubt it especially if they weren't on the forum and couldn't respond.

No I wouldn't like it and would probably have a word with him about it but highlighting the comments has just mde things worse for the family hasn't it..?

In the interests of balance,

The comments I made were out of order and inappropriate. I apologised to Mark publicly on this board and personally via PM - an apology he accepted. The moderators also quite rightly deleted the comments.

Several hours later, Gwyn Davies posted the comments on AAMB, having obviously copied them when they were on here. He did so with no concern other than merely attempting to score message board points. That is a mark of the man. He is the most disingenuous individual you are ever likely to have the misfortune to encounter.

He's apologised, it's been accepted. It was a wrong thing to do, let's just leave it there.

In the interests of balance,

The comments I made were out of order and inappropriate. I apologised to Mark publicly on this board and personally via PM - an apology he accepted. The moderators also quite rightly deleted the comments.

Several hours later, Gwyn Davies posted the comments on AAMB, having obviously copied them when they were on here. He did so with no concern other than merely attempting to score message board points. That is a mark of the man. He is the most disingenuous individual you are ever likely to have the misfortune to encounter.

He's apologised, it's been accepted. It was a wrong thing to do, let's just leave it there.

Has it been accepted by the two ladies and their family, or just by you as the voice of reason.

Earlier today on Mike's board someone slated the two old ladies that go to every away game and wear red, they always sit down the front, one is Mark Jennings mum, the other is Paul Went's mum.

Sugarman really had a go at them, they have taken the posts off now, but what a sad bitter twisted tw*t he really is, I used to back him when dayo had his war with him, I can see why now though, sad lonely man.

Below is some of the posts he put on regarding these two ladies.


Care about what? The re-brand? I would have imagined that it was blatantly obvious to even the dullest of this board's contributors that I've been somewhat upset about the destruction of the Cardiff City's traditional identity by a Malaysian megalomaniac who wears his trousers around his tits, but it seems I may have been wrong.....

As for that pair of daft old bats dancing around in Emperor Tan's colours whilst sporting ridiculous red wigs, I'm afraid I don't consider them worthy of any respect whatsoever. Contempt maybe, but respect? Certainly not.

Unlike you, I'm not ageist. I don't care whether somebody is sixteen or sixty - if they're wearing Tan's colours and embracing his re-brand, they'll get no respect from me.

As for your belief that the women in question haven't missed a game home or away since childhood, I think somebody's been telling you porkies. Either that or you have an active imagination.



Yes, those are the ones he means.

Hideous pair of crones, aren't they?


Harry Monk wrote on Tue, 17 September 2013 11:55

That's a bit of an unneseccary, and extremely juvenile comment to make.


It was accurate, though.



I have respect for those who deserve it. In my opinion, that pair certainly don't.

Forget what TLG said or what anyone said for that matter. The fact that a grown man felt the need to copy and then re-post comments made on another message board is cringeworthy. Like an old queen passing on gossip. Embarrassing.

In the interests of balance,

The comments I made were out of order and inappropriate. I apologised to Mark publicly on this board and personally via PM - an apology he accepted. The moderators also quite rightly deleted the comments.

Several hours later, Gwyn Davies posted the comments on AAMB, having obviously copied them when they were on here. He did so with no concern other than merely attempting to score message board points. That is a mark of the man. He is the most disingenuous individual you are ever likely to have the misfortune to encounter.

He's apologised, it's been accepted. It was a wrong thing to do, let's just leave it there.

Has it been accepted by the two ladies and their family, or just by you as the voice of reason.

If you read it properly, you'd see for yourself.

Earlier today on Mike's board someone slated the two old ladies that go to every away game and wear red, they always sit down the front, one is Mark Jennings mum, the other is Paul Went's mum.

Sugarman really had a go at them, they have taken the posts off now, but what a sad bitter twisted tw*t he really is, I used to back him when dayo had his war with him, I can see why now though, sad lonely man.

Below is some of the posts he put on regarding these two ladies.


Care about what? The re-brand? I would have imagined that it was blatantly obvious to even the dullest of this board's contributors that I've been somewhat upset about the destruction of the Cardiff City's traditional identity by a Malaysian megalomaniac who wears his trousers around his tits, but it seems I may have been wrong.....

As for that pair of daft old bats dancing around in Emperor Tan's colours whilst sporting ridiculous red wigs, I'm afraid I don't consider them worthy of any respect whatsoever. Contempt maybe, but respect? Certainly not.

Unlike you, I'm not ageist. I don't care whether somebody is sixteen or sixty - if they're wearing Tan's colours and embracing his re-brand, they'll get no respect from me.

As for your belief that the women in question haven't missed a game home or away since childhood, I think somebody's been telling you porkies. Either that or you have an active imagination.



Yes, those are the ones he means.

Hideous pair of crones, aren't they?


Harry Monk wrote on Tue, 17 September 2013 11:55

That's a bit of an unneseccary, and extremely juvenile comment to make.


It was accurate, though.



I have respect for those who deserve it. In my opinion, that pair certainly don't.

Forget what TLG said or what anyone said for that matter. The fact that a grown man felt the need to copy and then re-post comments made on another message board is cringeworthy. Like an old queen passing on gossip. Embarrassing.

Excatly my point

That is a mark of the man. He is the most disingenuous individual you are ever likely to have the misfortune to encounter.

How can TLG say such about Gwyn when he's just come to a messageboard to have a dig at women who are indefensible as they themselves are not on the message boards?

All Gwyn did was highlight what occurred. As someone who believes in free speech and constantly goes on about how the moderators should not be removing threads I find it God damn laughable that you can find this okay Barry.

Its only ever okay if it suits your God damn agenda and your argument. The way you continuously manipulate threads and arguments to suit your own agenda is a disgrace and you twist things for your own gain as you have done again here even though as pointed out above, TLG's statement is full of hypocrisy.

I know the immature child within you that likes to pop out from time to time will now resort to digging up old stuff to try and discredit my argument here but I'll just withdraw from it in the safe knowledge that I, many others, the club and Tan will move forward whilst the rebrand breaks you down and hurts you more than I or any other poster ever could with what we post here.

There was a time I empathised with pro blues and those that wanted to fight for tradition and identity, now I really couldn't give a shit and think the club would be better off moving on into a new era. If that means the likes of fans like you walk then so be it, I am really passed caring.

Where did I say it was okay? it was wrong what he did, but he's apologised and the family have accepted that. If they can accept it and move on, why can't people here, who have absolutely nothing to do with it?

All I was doing, was giving the thread some balance.