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Re: Right behind gay footballers

Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:07 pm

I really can't see in 2013 how people are still debating whether being gay is right. Gay couples should be allowed to marry and have children like any other couple. People have these traditionalist views but these are views that have been ingrained in us from hundreds of years ago. Times change and people and their views need to move on with it, I mean honestly in what way does it affect you if a gay couple get married or have children.

To me saying a gay couple can't marry is like saying black people can't get married.

Re: Right behind gay footballers

Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:10 pm

paulh_85 wrote:
Brighton & hove Albion wrote:
Real_Blue_Really wrote:
Bluebird82 wrote:All for it. Homosexuality is a natural occurring thing in nearly every species, the stigma is ridiculous. But will always be there imo.

Not all homosexuality is naturally occurring, so do we want to encourage those WITHOUT a natural disposition? It's a fine line between accepting it and encouraging more, if you get me?


I personally don't think homoseality is right but that's what I believe but I'll be labelled a homophobic because I don't toe the line and fit into the politically correct agenda.



:shock:


but your from Brighton! :lol:


Yes I'm from Brighton but the politically correct brigade shouldn't push their agenda onto people who have different beliefs and they must understand that we live in a democracy where freedom of speech is our way of life.

Re: Right behind gay footballers

Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:11 pm

Brighton & hove Albion wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Brighton & hove Albion wrote:
Real_Blue_Really wrote:
Bluebird82 wrote:All for it. Homosexuality is a natural occurring thing in nearly every species, the stigma is ridiculous. But will always be there imo.

Not all homosexuality is naturally occurring, so do we want to encourage those WITHOUT a natural disposition? It's a fine line between accepting it and encouraging more, if you get me?


I personally don't think homoseality is right but that's what I believe but I'll be labelled a homophobic because I don't toe the line and fit into the politically correct agenda.



:shock:


but your from Brighton! :lol:


Yes I'm from Brighton but the politically correct brigade shouldn't push their agenda onto people who have different beliefs and they must understand that we live in a democracy where freedom of speech is our way of life.


I don't understand what people have against homosexuals though

They are people too...

Re: Right behind gay footballers

Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:12 pm

Just another daft idea by some do gooder. What next.? The other month Nick Clegg had the rainbow flag flying from Downing Street to show his support for the Gays. It seemed to be at the top of his agenda. Nothing else to worry about then hey. ;)

Re: Right behind gay footballers

Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:13 pm

Real_Blue_Really wrote:
Brighton & hove Albion wrote:
Real_Blue_Really wrote:
Bluebird82 wrote:All for it. Homosexuality is a natural occurring thing in nearly every species, the stigma is ridiculous. But will always be there imo.

Not all homosexuality is naturally occurring, so do we want to encourage those WITHOUT a natural disposition? It's a fine line between accepting it and encouraging more, if you get me?


I personally don't think homoseality is right but that's what I believe but I'll be labelled a homophobic because I don't toe the line and fit into the politically correct agenda.

I think you're just trying too hard to appear straight because you know full well Brighton's lads reputation go before them on the gay circuit.


Really? lol So what were the 14 Cardiff lads doing wondering around withdean during the match and bumped into us, looking for a courting session ?

Re: Right behind gay footballers

Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:14 pm

Brighton & hove Albion wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Brighton & hove Albion wrote:
Real_Blue_Really wrote:
Bluebird82 wrote:All for it. Homosexuality is a natural occurring thing in nearly every species, the stigma is ridiculous. But will always be there imo.

Not all homosexuality is naturally occurring, so do we want to encourage those WITHOUT a natural disposition? It's a fine line between accepting it and encouraging more, if you get me?


I personally don't think homoseality is right but that's what I believe but I'll be labelled a homophobic because I don't toe the line and fit into the politically correct agenda.



:shock:


but your from Brighton! :lol:


Yes I'm from Brighton but the politically correct brigade shouldn't push their agenda onto people who have different beliefs and they must understand that we live in a democracy where freedom of speech is our way of life.

Oooo Get you, all stroppy with your hangbag, sound like peter tatchall :lol:

Re: Right behind gay footballers

Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:16 pm

JamesC wrote:
I don't understand what people have against homosexuals though

They are people too...


Because in order to feel masculine one must conform to the society of males it surrounds.

I feel uncomfortable watching two men kiss but not to the point id deny either the right to do so. But not in any form of prejudice, just as I wouldnt like to watch two pensioners kiss as they are undesirable to me personally.

This homophobia really needs to be left in the dark ages with racism.

Re: Right behind gay footballers

Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:16 pm

Bluebird82 wrote:
JamesC wrote:
I don't understand what people have against homosexuals though

They are people too...


Because in order to feel masculine one must conform to the society of males it surrounds.

I feel uncomfortable watching two men kiss but not to the point id deny either the right to do so. But not in any form of prejudice, just as I wouldnt like to watch two pensioners kiss as they are undesirable to me personally.

This homophobia really needs to be left in the dark ages with racism.


Spot on dude

Re: Right behind gay footballers

Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:17 pm

Bluebird82 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Bluebird82 wrote:
Real_Blue_Really wrote:
Bluebird82 wrote:All for it. Homosexuality is a natural occurring thing in nearly every species, the stigma is ridiculous. But will always be there imo.

Not all homosexuality is naturally occurring, so do we want to encourage those WITHOUT a natural disposition? It's a fine line between accepting it and encouraging more, if you get me?


Of course it is. People dont decide to be gay just for a bit of a laugh... Just as others dont decide to be straight.

Natures way of population control, 1 in 9 are gay is the stat bandied around.


says 1in 100 here: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 87829.html


They are incorrect, most studies show a % of between 8% and 12% - and you must also remember those that dont wish to admit it which would naturally give a lower than normal result.

The average ratio from several studies are that 9.56% of men are homosexual and 4.75% of women are homosexual.

The Indiana University Kinsey Reports (Sexual Behavior in the Human Male - Kinsey, Pomeroy, and Martin/Sexual Behavior in the Human Female - Kinsey, Pomeroy, Martin, and Gerhard) reported 10% of males being more or less exclusively homosexual and 2% to 6% of females being more or less exclusively homosexual.

A 1990 study (Homosexuality/Heterosexuality by McWhirter, Sanders, and Reinisch) stated 13.95% of males and 4.25% of females had "extensive" or "more than incidental" homosexual experience.

A 1993 study (The Janus Report on Sexual Behavior - Janus and Janus) found 9% of men and 5% of women were involved in frequent or ongoing homosexual experiences.

A 1994 study (The Social Organization of Sexuality: Sexual Practices in the United States - Laumann, Gagnon, Michael, Michaels) reported that the incidence rate of homosexual desire for men is 7.7% and 7.5% for women.

In 1995, a survey (The prevalence of homosexual behavior and attraction in the United States, the United Kingdom and France: Results of national population-based samples - Sell, Wells, and Wypij) reported 6.2, 4.5, and 10.7% of males and 3.6, 2.1, and 3.3% of females in the United States, the United Kingdom, and France, respectively, report having had sexual contact with someone of the same sex in the previous 5 years.

All that proves is that homosuxuality is on the increase inline with family breakdown. correlation might not mean causation but is it a coincedence.

Do you think a bicurious man should be encouraged to be gay? Or encouraged to be a family man in the mould of, let's say.............Eric Cantona?

Re: Right behind gay footballers

Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:19 pm

Real_Blue_Really wrote:
Bluebird82 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Bluebird82 wrote:
Real_Blue_Really wrote:
Bluebird82 wrote:All for it. Homosexuality is a natural occurring thing in nearly every species, the stigma is ridiculous. But will always be there imo.

Not all homosexuality is naturally occurring, so do we want to encourage those WITHOUT a natural disposition? It's a fine line between accepting it and encouraging more, if you get me?


Of course it is. People dont decide to be gay just for a bit of a laugh... Just as others dont decide to be straight.

Natures way of population control, 1 in 9 are gay is the stat bandied around.


says 1in 100 here: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 87829.html


They are incorrect, most studies show a % of between 8% and 12% - and you must also remember those that dont wish to admit it which would naturally give a lower than normal result.

The average ratio from several studies are that 9.56% of men are homosexual and 4.75% of women are homosexual.

The Indiana University Kinsey Reports (Sexual Behavior in the Human Male - Kinsey, Pomeroy, and Martin/Sexual Behavior in the Human Female - Kinsey, Pomeroy, Martin, and Gerhard) reported 10% of males being more or less exclusively homosexual and 2% to 6% of females being more or less exclusively homosexual.

A 1990 study (Homosexuality/Heterosexuality by McWhirter, Sanders, and Reinisch) stated 13.95% of males and 4.25% of females had "extensive" or "more than incidental" homosexual experience.

A 1993 study (The Janus Report on Sexual Behavior - Janus and Janus) found 9% of men and 5% of women were involved in frequent or ongoing homosexual experiences.

A 1994 study (The Social Organization of Sexuality: Sexual Practices in the United States - Laumann, Gagnon, Michael, Michaels) reported that the incidence rate of homosexual desire for men is 7.7% and 7.5% for women.

In 1995, a survey (The prevalence of homosexual behavior and attraction in the United States, the United Kingdom and France: Results of national population-based samples - Sell, Wells, and Wypij) reported 6.2, 4.5, and 10.7% of males and 3.6, 2.1, and 3.3% of females in the United States, the United Kingdom, and France, respectively, report having had sexual contact with someone of the same sex in the previous 5 years.

All that proves is that homosuxuality is on the increase inline with family breakdown. correlation might not mean causation but is it a coincedence.

Do you think a bicurious man should be encouraged to be gay? Or encouraged to be a family man in the mould of, let's say.............Eric Cantona?


Neither. People shouldnt be encouraged to be anything they are not. But the idea here is to make people aware that its okay to be who you are, not encouraging them to sleep with men against their wishes.

Re: Right behind gay footballers

Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:20 pm

JamesC wrote:
Brighton & hove Albion wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Brighton & hove Albion wrote:
Real_Blue_Really wrote:
Bluebird82 wrote:All for it. Homosexuality is a natural occurring thing in nearly every species, the stigma is ridiculous. But will always be there imo.

Not all homosexuality is naturally occurring, so do we want to encourage those WITHOUT a natural disposition? It's a fine line between accepting it and encouraging more, if you get me?


I personally don't think homoseality is right but that's what I believe but I'll be labelled a homophobic because I don't toe the line and fit into the politically correct agenda.



:shock:


but your from Brighton! :lol:


Yes I'm from Brighton but the politically correct brigade shouldn't push their agenda onto people who have different beliefs and they must understand that we live in a democracy where freedom of speech is our way of life.


I don't understand what people have against homosexuals though

They are people too...


I haven't anything against them personally, I just don't think it's right, I'd never abuse anyone for being gay as what they do is up to them.

Re: Right behind gay footballers

Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:21 pm

Are you religious?

Re: Right behind gay footballers

Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:22 pm

Bluebird82 wrote:
Real_Blue_Really wrote:
Bluebird82 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Bluebird82 wrote:
Real_Blue_Really wrote:
Bluebird82 wrote:All for it. Homosexuality is a natural occurring thing in nearly every species, the stigma is ridiculous. But will always be there imo.

Not all homosexuality is naturally occurring, so do we want to encourage those WITHOUT a natural disposition? It's a fine line between accepting it and encouraging more, if you get me?


Of course it is. People dont decide to be gay just for a bit of a laugh... Just as others dont decide to be straight.

Natures way of population control, 1 in 9 are gay is the stat bandied around.


says 1in 100 here: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 87829.html


They are incorrect, most studies show a % of between 8% and 12% - and you must also remember those that dont wish to admit it which would naturally give a lower than normal result.

The average ratio from several studies are that 9.56% of men are homosexual and 4.75% of women are homosexual.

The Indiana University Kinsey Reports (Sexual Behavior in the Human Male - Kinsey, Pomeroy, and Martin/Sexual Behavior in the Human Female - Kinsey, Pomeroy, Martin, and Gerhard) reported 10% of males being more or less exclusively homosexual and 2% to 6% of females being more or less exclusively homosexual.

A 1990 study (Homosexuality/Heterosexuality by McWhirter, Sanders, and Reinisch) stated 13.95% of males and 4.25% of females had "extensive" or "more than incidental" homosexual experience.

A 1993 study (The Janus Report on Sexual Behavior - Janus and Janus) found 9% of men and 5% of women were involved in frequent or ongoing homosexual experiences.

A 1994 study (The Social Organization of Sexuality: Sexual Practices in the United States - Laumann, Gagnon, Michael, Michaels) reported that the incidence rate of homosexual desire for men is 7.7% and 7.5% for women.

In 1995, a survey (The prevalence of homosexual behavior and attraction in the United States, the United Kingdom and France: Results of national population-based samples - Sell, Wells, and Wypij) reported 6.2, 4.5, and 10.7% of males and 3.6, 2.1, and 3.3% of females in the United States, the United Kingdom, and France, respectively, report having had sexual contact with someone of the same sex in the previous 5 years.

All that proves is that homosuxuality is on the increase inline with family breakdown. correlation might not mean causation but is it a coincedence.

Do you think a bicurious man should be encouraged to be gay? Or encouraged to be a family man in the mould of, let's say.............Eric Cantona?


Neither. People shouldnt be encouraged to be anything they are not. But the idea here is to make people aware that its okay to be who you are, not encouraging them to sleep with men against their wishes.


Exactly. I don't know where he get's this 'enouraged to be gay' marlarkey from, like gay people are standing around handing leaflets or something saying 'Join Us'. It isn't a choice.

Re: Right behind gay footballers

Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:23 pm

Bluebird82 wrote:
Real_Blue_Really wrote:
Bluebird82 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Bluebird82 wrote:
Real_Blue_Really wrote:
Bluebird82 wrote:All for it. Homosexuality is a natural occurring thing in nearly every species, the stigma is ridiculous. But will always be there imo.

Not all homosexuality is naturally occurring, so do we want to encourage those WITHOUT a natural disposition? It's a fine line between accepting it and encouraging more, if you get me?


Of course it is. People dont decide to be gay just for a bit of a laugh... Just as others dont decide to be straight.

Natures way of population control, 1 in 9 are gay is the stat bandied around.


says 1in 100 here: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 87829.html


They are incorrect, most studies show a % of between 8% and 12% - and you must also remember those that dont wish to admit it which would naturally give a lower than normal result.

The average ratio from several studies are that 9.56% of men are homosexual and 4.75% of women are homosexual.

The Indiana University Kinsey Reports (Sexual Behavior in the Human Male - Kinsey, Pomeroy, and Martin/Sexual Behavior in the Human Female - Kinsey, Pomeroy, Martin, and Gerhard) reported 10% of males being more or less exclusively homosexual and 2% to 6% of females being more or less exclusively homosexual.

A 1990 study (Homosexuality/Heterosexuality by McWhirter, Sanders, and Reinisch) stated 13.95% of males and 4.25% of females had "extensive" or "more than incidental" homosexual experience.

A 1993 study (The Janus Report on Sexual Behavior - Janus and Janus) found 9% of men and 5% of women were involved in frequent or ongoing homosexual experiences.

A 1994 study (The Social Organization of Sexuality: Sexual Practices in the United States - Laumann, Gagnon, Michael, Michaels) reported that the incidence rate of homosexual desire for men is 7.7% and 7.5% for women.

In 1995, a survey (The prevalence of homosexual behavior and attraction in the United States, the United Kingdom and France: Results of national population-based samples - Sell, Wells, and Wypij) reported 6.2, 4.5, and 10.7% of males and 3.6, 2.1, and 3.3% of females in the United States, the United Kingdom, and France, respectively, report having had sexual contact with someone of the same sex in the previous 5 years.

All that proves is that homosuxuality is on the increase inline with family breakdown. correlation might not mean causation but is it a coincedence.

Do you think a bicurious man should be encouraged to be gay? Or encouraged to be a family man in the mould of, let's say.............Eric Cantona?


Neither. People shouldnt be encouraged to be anything they are not. But the idea here is to make people aware that its okay to be who you are, not encouraging them to sleep with men against their wishes.

You are denying that social forces exist as a determining factor for bicurious ? or should be ignored by the bicurious?

Re: Right behind gay footballers

Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:23 pm

Brighton & hove Albion wrote:

I haven't anything against them personally, I just don't think it's right, I'd never abuse anyone for being gay as what they do is up to them.


"Dont think its right" is so,ething that appears in debates such as this often. Surely if you dint thinks its right then you are accusing them if doing something wrong? If they are gay and are both if consenting age then what exactly is wrong aout it? I mean they arent making you to join in.

I cant stand mushrooms personally, but would never be so arrogant and self righteous to call someone who likes them "wrong" just because it isnt to my own taste.

Re: Right behind gay footballers

Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:25 pm

ianmackay88 wrote:
Bluebird82 wrote:
Real_Blue_Really wrote:
Bluebird82 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Bluebird82 wrote:
Real_Blue_Really wrote:
Bluebird82 wrote:All for it. Homosexuality is a natural occurring thing in nearly every species, the stigma is ridiculous. But will always be there imo.

Not all homosexuality is naturally occurring, so do we want to encourage those WITHOUT a natural disposition? It's a fine line between accepting it and encouraging more, if you get me?


Of course it is. People dont decide to be gay just for a bit of a laugh... Just as others dont decide to be straight.

Natures way of population control, 1 in 9 are gay is the stat bandied around.


says 1in 100 here: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 87829.html


They are incorrect, most studies show a % of between 8% and 12% - and you must also remember those that dont wish to admit it which would naturally give a lower than normal result.

The average ratio from several studies are that 9.56% of men are homosexual and 4.75% of women are homosexual.

The Indiana University Kinsey Reports (Sexual Behavior in the Human Male - Kinsey, Pomeroy, and Martin/Sexual Behavior in the Human Female - Kinsey, Pomeroy, Martin, and Gerhard) reported 10% of males being more or less exclusively homosexual and 2% to 6% of females being more or less exclusively homosexual.

A 1990 study (Homosexuality/Heterosexuality by McWhirter, Sanders, and Reinisch) stated 13.95% of males and 4.25% of females had "extensive" or "more than incidental" homosexual experience.

A 1993 study (The Janus Report on Sexual Behavior - Janus and Janus) found 9% of men and 5% of women were involved in frequent or ongoing homosexual experiences.

A 1994 study (The Social Organization of Sexuality: Sexual Practices in the United States - Laumann, Gagnon, Michael, Michaels) reported that the incidence rate of homosexual desire for men is 7.7% and 7.5% for women.

In 1995, a survey (The prevalence of homosexual behavior and attraction in the United States, the United Kingdom and France: Results of national population-based samples - Sell, Wells, and Wypij) reported 6.2, 4.5, and 10.7% of males and 3.6, 2.1, and 3.3% of females in the United States, the United Kingdom, and France, respectively, report having had sexual contact with someone of the same sex in the previous 5 years.

All that proves is that homosuxuality is on the increase inline with family breakdown. correlation might not mean causation but is it a coincedence.

Do you think a bicurious man should be encouraged to be gay? Or encouraged to be a family man in the mould of, let's say.............Eric Cantona?


Neither. People shouldnt be encouraged to be anything they are not. But the idea here is to make people aware that its okay to be who you are, not encouraging them to sleep with men against their wishes.


Exactly. I don't know where he get's this 'enouraged to be gay' marlarkey from, like gay people are standing around handing leaflets or something saying 'Join Us'. It isn't a choice.

For bisexuals, who they sleep with is a choice is it not?

Re: Right behind gay footballers

Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:26 pm

No

Re: Right behind gay footballers

Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:27 pm

JamesC wrote:Are you religious?


No. Religion is the problem in the world.

Re: Right behind gay footballers

Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:27 pm

JamesC wrote:No


they can sleep with a woman or a man. that is their moral dilema and their choice, is it not my choice to judge them on THEIR choice?

Re: Right behind gay footballers

Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:29 pm

Real_Blue_Really wrote:You are denying that social forces exist as a determining factor for bicurious ? or should be ignored by the bicurious?


I am indeed denying that. Bisexuality and homosexuality has been prevelant since records began, even mentions of it in biblical text. Im oretty sure some rainbow jesus sandals didnt sway them.

You are a straight man i presume. Would you sleep with a man because a friend said it was ok to do so? A stright man wouldnt even contemplate it, those that do cintemplate it are probably gay in one of its different "subheadings", you are what you are.

Re: Right behind gay footballers

Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:29 pm

Real_Blue_Really wrote:
ianmackay88 wrote:
Bluebird82 wrote:
Real_Blue_Really wrote:
Bluebird82 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Bluebird82 wrote:
Real_Blue_Really wrote:
Bluebird82 wrote:All for it. Homosexuality is a natural occurring thing in nearly every species, the stigma is ridiculous. But will always be there imo.

Not all homosexuality is naturally occurring, so do we want to encourage those WITHOUT a natural disposition? It's a fine line between accepting it and encouraging more, if you get me?


Of course it is. People dont decide to be gay just for a bit of a laugh... Just as others dont decide to be straight.

Natures way of population control, 1 in 9 are gay is the stat bandied around.


says 1in 100 here: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 87829.html


They are incorrect, most studies show a % of between 8% and 12% - and you must also remember those that dont wish to admit it which would naturally give a lower than normal result.

The average ratio from several studies are that 9.56% of men are homosexual and 4.75% of women are homosexual.

The Indiana University Kinsey Reports (Sexual Behavior in the Human Male - Kinsey, Pomeroy, and Martin/Sexual Behavior in the Human Female - Kinsey, Pomeroy, Martin, and Gerhard) reported 10% of males being more or less exclusively homosexual and 2% to 6% of females being more or less exclusively homosexual.

A 1990 study (Homosexuality/Heterosexuality by McWhirter, Sanders, and Reinisch) stated 13.95% of males and 4.25% of females had "extensive" or "more than incidental" homosexual experience.

A 1993 study (The Janus Report on Sexual Behavior - Janus and Janus) found 9% of men and 5% of women were involved in frequent or ongoing homosexual experiences.

A 1994 study (The Social Organization of Sexuality: Sexual Practices in the United States - Laumann, Gagnon, Michael, Michaels) reported that the incidence rate of homosexual desire for men is 7.7% and 7.5% for women.

In 1995, a survey (The prevalence of homosexual behavior and attraction in the United States, the United Kingdom and France: Results of national population-based samples - Sell, Wells, and Wypij) reported 6.2, 4.5, and 10.7% of males and 3.6, 2.1, and 3.3% of females in the United States, the United Kingdom, and France, respectively, report having had sexual contact with someone of the same sex in the previous 5 years.

All that proves is that homosuxuality is on the increase inline with family breakdown. correlation might not mean causation but is it a coincedence.

Do you think a bicurious man should be encouraged to be gay? Or encouraged to be a family man in the mould of, let's say.............Eric Cantona?


Neither. People shouldnt be encouraged to be anything they are not. But the idea here is to make people aware that its okay to be who you are, not encouraging them to sleep with men against their wishes.


Exactly. I don't know where he get's this 'enouraged to be gay' marlarkey from, like gay people are standing around handing leaflets or something saying 'Join Us'. It isn't a choice.

For bisexuals, who they sleep with is a choice is it not?


They will have relationshipd with both genders but they don't chose to be attracted to men, they just are.

Re: Right behind gay footballers

Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:31 pm

Bluebird82 wrote:
Brighton & hove Albion wrote:

I haven't anything against them personally, I just don't think it's right, I'd never abuse anyone for being gay as what they do is up to them.


"Dont think its right" is so,ething that appears in debates such as this often. Surely if you dint thinks its right then you are accusing them if doing something wrong? If they are gay and are both if consenting age then what exactly is wrong aout it? I mean they arent making you to join in.

I cant stand mushrooms personally, but would never be so arrogant and self righteous to call someone who likes them "wrong" just because it isnt to my own taste.

But it is proven that most foods can be enjoyed by the human pallete if you eat them a number of times, so there's an element of choice in eating the mushroom and if that mushroom had a negative domino affect on marital breakdown, should we encourage mushroom eating or not?

Re: Right behind gay footballers

Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:31 pm

Brighton & hove Albion wrote:
JamesC wrote:Are you religious?


No. Religion is the problem in the world.


Well no, not necessarily, but that's another conversation altogether

Homosexuality is abundant in many species across the globe, the reason we have a problem with it is because of biblical teachings

If religion hadn't been a factor, we wouldn't think twice about homosexuality,

Look at Ancient Greece, or Rome, homosexuality was a social norm before Constantine turned the Romans to the Christian faith.

Re: Right behind gay footballers

Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:35 pm

Real_Blue_Really wrote:
But it is proven that most foods can be enjoyed by the human pallete if you eat them a number of times, so there's an element of choice in eating the mushroom and if that mushroom had a negative domino affect on marital breakdown, should we encourage mushroom eating or not?


I dont even know where you are going with that one. Who is encouraging people to be gay?

People seem to be using their own attractions, or lack of, and attempting to say its wrong for other people to endulge in the actions if they find it within their taste.

As a straight man, surely you understand that in order to consider homosexual activity by merely others suggesting "its okay" then you are in some way - homosexual.

Re: Right behind gay footballers

Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:43 pm

Bluebird82 wrote:
Brighton & hove Albion wrote:

I haven't anything against them personally, I just don't think it's right, I'd never abuse anyone for being gay as what they do is up to them.


"Dont think its right" is so,ething that appears in debates such as this often. Surely if you dint thinks its right then you are accusing them if doing something wrong? If they are gay and are both if consenting age then what exactly is wrong aout it? I mean they arent making you to join in.

I cant stand mushrooms personally, but would never be so arrogant and self righteous to call someone who likes them "wrong" just because it isnt to my own taste.


Yes, I don't think it's right and to be honest it makes my stomach churn thinking about Adam and Steve banging away but if that what they want to do then fine, bang away.

I've been brought up in Brighton and my family are totally against homosexuals and think it's vile, disgusting and unnatural. My dad is 83 and all my uncles aunties are the same ages give or take a year or two. They were brought up the right way and the gay scene wasn't around then in the 40's, 50's.

Re: Right behind gay footballers

Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:47 pm

ianmackay88 wrote:I really can't see in 2013 how people are still debating whether being gay is right. Gay couples should be allowed to marry and have children like any other couple. People have these traditionalist views but these are views that have been ingrained in us from hundreds of years ago. Times change and people and their views need to move on with it, I mean honestly in what way does it affect you if a gay couple get married or have children.

To me saying a gay couple can't marry is like saying black people can't get married.

Agree Gay people should have exactly the same rights as anybody else

Re: Right behind gay footballers

Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:48 pm

and on the 5th day the lord declared let there be light.

and on the 6th day the lord declared. ''let there be Gay''

and everyone ran around hands in hand talking behind each others backs

Re: Right behind gay footballers

Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:48 pm

Bluebird82 wrote:
Real_Blue_Really wrote:
But it is proven that most foods can be enjoyed by the human pallete if you eat them a number of times, so there's an element of choice in eating the mushroom and if that mushroom had a negative domino affect on marital breakdown, should we encourage mushroom eating or not?


I dont even know where you are going with that one. Who is encouraging people to be gay?

People seem to be using their own attractions, or lack of, and attempting to say its wrong for other people to endulge in the actions if they find it within their taste.

As a straight man, surely you understand that in order to consider homosexual activity by merely others suggesting "its okay" then you are in some way - homosexual.

Would you applaud a society that encourages bisexual fence sitters to go gay?

Re: Right behind gay footballers

Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:48 pm

Brought up the right way....

Wow...

Re: Right behind gay footballers

Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:49 pm

Brighton & hove Albion wrote:
Bluebird82 wrote:
Brighton & hove Albion wrote:

I haven't anything against them personally, I just don't think it's right, I'd never abuse anyone for being gay as what they do is up to them.


"Dont think its right" is so,ething that appears in debates such as this often. Surely if you dint thinks its right then you are accusing them if doing something wrong? If they are gay and are both if consenting age then what exactly is wrong aout it? I mean they arent making you to join in.

I cant stand mushrooms personally, but would never be so arrogant and self righteous to call someone who likes them "wrong" just because it isnt to my own taste.


Yes, I don't think it's right and to be honest it makes my stomach churn thinking about Adam and Steve banging away but if that what they want to do then fine, bang away.

I've been brought up in Brighton and my family are totally against homosexuals and think it's vile, disgusting and unnatural. My dad is 83 and all my uncles aunties are the same ages give or take a year or two. They were brought up the right way and the gay scene wasn't around then in the 40's, 50's.


Your first paragraph is completely contradictory and indicative of many attitudes toward the subject. You think its wrong but are quite happy to let them do it? Thats the first thing that grates a little with me.

Secondly, what do you suggest fir these people? Have no relations with anybody? Force themselves to pretend to be attracted to women to please society?

Or do you think it would be fair to say its "right" for two people to fall in love with who they please? Lets nit forget, just because you dont like something, that doesnt give anyone the moral right to describe it as"wrong".