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Re: ' NOT GUILTY "

Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:18 pm

nojac wrote:Innocent , he's come out of it smelling of ROSIE .


:lol:

Re: ' NOT GUILTY "

Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:18 pm

Life is never simple and any form of sexual abuse case is particularly difficult.

If someone is accused of sexual assault and their name is not disclosed and while the police are investigating the accused person sexually assaults a member of your family, you would probably complain that the person's name should have been publicised to warn people.

On the other hand if the person is innocent then disclosure makes their life hell.

A balance has to be struck and I feel that the norm should be that the name of the accused should not be disclosed at the very least until the individual is charged. There would have to be a provision that the police court apply to the court to lift the anonymity e.g. if they were trying to trace a sex attacker who was on the run.

As far as the alleged victim is concerned, we have to remember that in some cases the jury will find the accused not guilty, not because they believe that they are innocent, but because the jury feels that the prosecution has only proved the case to a "balance of probabilities" level, i.e. they felt the accused probably did it but it did not meet the proved "beyond reasonable doubt" test. So just because the accused is found to be not guilty, it does not mean the alleged victim lied. Many sexual abuse cases boil down to two people giving a different story of the events and no other evidence.

If the judge believes that a reasonable case has been made, then the alleged victim should remain anonymous. Anything else would be monstrous. If a member of your family was raped but the court case failed, would you want them named?

But if the judge believes the alleged victim was lying, then that individual should be prosecuted and named.

Re: ' NOT GUILTY "

Thu Sep 12, 2013 12:53 pm

Guilty, there all filthy fuckin rapeists and pedos( celebs) they just no how to get away with it and have the funds to back them. Jimmy, rolph, Travis lee, bill roach, this guy and many more without. A doubt.

Re: ' NOT GUILTY "

Thu Sep 12, 2013 12:55 pm

magic88 wrote:Guilty, there all filthy fuckin rapeists and pedos( celebs) they just no how to get away with it and have the funds to back them. Jimmy, rolph, Travis lee, bill roach, this guy and many more without. A doubt.



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Re: ' NOT GUILTY "

Thu Sep 12, 2013 12:56 pm

Guilty, there all filthy fuckin rapeists and pedos( celebs) they just no how to get away with it and have the funds to back them. Jimmy, rolph, Travis lee, bill roach, this guy and many more without. A doubt.

Re: ' NOT GUILTY "

Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:36 pm

DandoCCFC wrote:Females making up lies just to get money out of it.

Justice for Ched Evans also.


On times you really should engage your brain before using your gob.

Re: ' NOT GUILTY "

Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:42 pm

Sneggyblubird wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:Females making up lies just to get money out of it.

Justice for Ched Evans also.


On times you really should engage your brain before using your gob.



hes too busy tonguing Barnetts arse to think. :lol:

Re: ' NOT GUILTY "

Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:53 pm

Tough one Annis.

There was not enough evidence to convict him but that doesnt mean the girl is a liar. Its a dangerous precedent to set and could stop genuine victims of sexual assault complaining for fear of being prosecuted themselves if they dont get the verdict they require.

That said, if it can be proved that the person is definitely lying about such a hideous crime then lock them up for as long as you would a rapist.

Re: ' NOT GUILTY "

Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:55 pm

Forever Blue wrote:' NOT GUILTY "

For Coronation Street Star Kevin Webster aka Michael Le vell :thumbup:

For 2 years he has had this hanging over him.

But surely now its about time the accused was named on cases like this, as even though he has been found not guilty, His life is tarnished and ruined in many ways and yet the accused continues as though nothing has happened.

Remember He is Not Guilty.

Whats your opinions?

Agreed :thumbup:

Re: ' NOT GUILTY "

Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:04 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:Tough one Annis.

There was not enough evidence to convict him but that doesnt mean the girl is a liar. Its a dangerous precedent to set and could stop genuine victims of sexual assault complaining for fear of being prosecuted themselves if they dont get the verdict they require.

That said, if it can be proved that the person is definitely lying about such a hideous crime then lock them up for as long as you would a rapist.

He's been found not guilty and given the high profile of this case along with a tabloid witchunt, if this man had skeletons they would've been exsposed, so he's cleaner than most. unfortunately for lots of people this still isn't enough.

Let the innocent man now get on with what is left of his life.

Re: ' NOT GUILTY "

Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:54 pm

Sneggyblubird wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:Females making up lies just to get money out of it.

Justice for Ched Evans also.


On times you really should engage your brain before using your gob.


Putting it out how it is.

Re: ' NOT GUILTY "

Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:01 pm

DandoCCFC wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:Females making up lies just to get money out of it.

Justice for Ched Evans also.


On times you really should engage your brain before using your gob.


Putting it out how it is.


You need to grow up.

Re: ' NOT GUILTY "

Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:12 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:Females making up lies just to get money out of it.

Justice for Ched Evans also.


On times you really should engage your brain before using your gob.


Putting it out how it is.


You need to grow up.


Nah.