WHAT IS A "PLASTIC"

I think people should be able to support who ever they want to support

I wasnt aware of any kind of criteria you had to fill out to become a football fan

why do people moan about people who support Man U or LIverpool, its their life!! Or is it more about your life are you jealous of they guy who supports Man U for the success his club has achieved.

Ive just got into American Football, to pick my team I went through the process of eenie meenie miney mo, I came up with the Baltimore Ravens, now if I had done that with Football I could have had any team but when I became interested in football I picked Cardiff because it is my local team

If you don't have a local team then fair enough. Just like you don't have a local American football team.

But personally I think you should base who you support on where you come from.

thats fine and thats the choices youve made maybe you will pass it on to your kids

its just a sport though your not committing treason if you follow Man United.

if the criteria I used to pick a football team is I want success I want to support the best football team in the world Man United is a reasonable option

Well like it or not, the "criteria" I said is what the majority of loyal football fans follow and if they don't come under that "criteria" then fans will label them as plastics etc, that will always be the case

so if the criteria of the majority of fans was success would those stupid loyal fans who supported their local team be labelled as plastics?


the point im trying to make is everybody seems to be a plastic fan bar the guy labeling everybody else a plastic that guy seems to be the one true fan.

If you dont support your local team your plastic
If youve only started supporting your local team your plastic
If you only care about success your plastic
If you praise the club after a win and vilify the team after a loss your plastic


people are so concerned that they are not a plastic fan they change the parameters to suit their personal situation to make sure they are not a plastic fan.

so I go back to my original post its an attempt to create a hierarchy where one does not exist to laud self praise on themselves.

look at the attempt of one poster to say if you supported Cardiff pre Sam Hammam you are not plastic that would make the majority of our current fan base plastic me included. The only position that suits is that poster to make sure he is not a plastic.

I'm not concerned at all. I haven't changed anything to suit my personal situation. What I've said it just how it is to the majority of loyal football fans in the UK. Like it or not.

You've misunderstood a lot of what I've said. Just to pick out one of them, I didn't say that if you praise your team after win and vilify your team after a loss then you're a plastic. I said that if you only support the club when they're doing well (when they win) and don't support the club when they're not doing so well then you're a plastic.

I've only said it how it is.

I havent said anything about you changing wouldnt care if you have support your team however you want
majority of loyal fans? I assume thats the opposite to a plastic then. Dont have to like anything just putting my point of view across

How have I misunderstood anything youve said, what makes you think your so important I have to quote you?
what ive written is from my own personal experiences and the reasons why some people are plastics and some are not

in my experience ive yet to find a consistent answer there are similarities not supporting your home team is a big one but even then it breaks down and gets very complicated turning people who do support their local team plastics despite this fact.

supporting Manchester United seems to automatically make you a plastic fan despite living in manchester because if your a true Manc yould follow Man City. Now Man City fans are plastic! So all these Mancs who have been proud not to be those glory supporting idiots in red are now plastics themselves.

PLASTIC is inconsistent and idiotic and is only used to mock another supporter be it of another team or of the same team.

I havent said anything about you changing wouldnt care if you have support your team however you want
majority of loyal fans? I assume thats the opposite to a plastic then. Dont have to like anything just putting my point of view across

How have I misunderstood anything youve said, what makes you think your so important I have to quote you?
what ive written is from my own personal experiences and the reasons why some people are plastics and some are not

in my experience ive yet to find a consistent answer there are similarities not supporting your home team is a big one but even then it breaks down and gets very complicated turning people who do support their local team plastics despite this fact.

supporting Manchester United seems to automatically make you a plastic fan despite living in manchester because if your a true Manc yould follow Man City. Now Man City fans are plastic! So all these Mancs who have been proud not to be those glory supporting idiots in red are now plastics themselves.

PLASTIC is inconsistent and idiotic and is only used to mock another supporter be it of another team or of the same team.

You said "people are so concerned that they are not a plastic fan they change the parameters to suit their personal situation to make sure they are not a plastic fan". I disagreed with you because I haven't changed anything to suit my personal situation to make sure I'm not a plastic fan.

You've misunderstood what I've said because you've taken what I've said and twisted the words which takes away my meaning. Probably by accident, or maybe I'm wrong and what you've written wasn't clear enough to me because it looked like you were talking about me as you're replying to me, that doesn't make me think I'm "so important".

You probably haven't seen any similarities from your experience but many other fans have, including me, and that's why some football fans are labelled as "plastics".

Supporting Manchester United doesn't automatically make you a plastic. If someone automatically assumed that, they are ignorant. Now if they support them BECAUSE of their success, like many do, then they are plastics. If Manchester United is their local team, then they wouldn't be called a plastic. What I'm saying is football fans shouldn't support a club JUST because they're successful, if they do, they'll be labelled as a plastic or a "glory hunter".

A lot of people misinterpret and over-use the word "plastic", I agree.

The majority of loyal football fans support their team because it's THEIR local team, or because they're following the team of a member of their family who introduced their team to them. I know this because this is the case for every football fan I know. I don't know any football fans who don't come under what I've said and have a real connection to a football club in the same way, no doubt that their probably are some football fans who do, but they will be labelled as "plastics" regardless.

Personally, I don't care about plastic fans, I just don't take them seriously and I think they're good for us as they take up the empty seats that were there from previous seasons.

This is not just what I think, it's just common knowledge in the football world.

I havent said anything about you changing wouldnt care if you have support your team however you want
majority of loyal fans? I assume thats the opposite to a plastic then. Dont have to like anything just putting my point of view across

How have I misunderstood anything youve said, what makes you think your so important I have to quote you?
what ive written is from my own personal experiences and the reasons why some people are plastics and some are not

in my experience ive yet to find a consistent answer there are similarities not supporting your home team is a big one but even then it breaks down and gets very complicated turning people who do support their local team plastics despite this fact.

supporting Manchester United seems to automatically make you a plastic fan despite living in manchester because if your a true Manc yould follow Man City. Now Man City fans are plastic! So all these Mancs who have been proud not to be those glory supporting idiots in red are now plastics themselves.

PLASTIC is inconsistent and idiotic and is only used to mock another supporter be it of another team or of the same team.

You said "people are so concerned that they are not a plastic fan they change the parameters to suit their personal situation to make sure they are not a plastic fan". I disagreed with you because I haven't changed anything to suit my personal situation to make sure I'm not a plastic fan.

You've misunderstood what I've said because you've taken what I've said and twisted the words which takes away my meaning. Probably by accident, or maybe I'm wrong and what you've written wasn't clear enough to me because it looked like you were talking about me as you're replying to me, that doesn't make me think I'm "so important".

You probably haven't seen any similarities from your experience but many other fans have, including me, and that's why some football fans are labelled as "plastics".

Supporting Manchester United doesn't automatically make you a plastic. If someone automatically assumed that, they are ignorant. Now if they support them BECAUSE of their success, like many do, then they are plastics. If Manchester United is their local team, then they wouldn't be called a plastic. What I'm saying is football fans shouldn't support a club JUST because they're successful, if they do, they'll be labelled as a plastic or a "glory hunter".

A lot of people misinterpret and over-use the word "plastic", I agree.

The majority of loyal football fans support their team because it's THEIR local team, or because they're following the team of a member of their family who introduced their team to them. I know this because this is the case for every football fan I know. I don't know any football fans who don't come under what I've said and have a real connection to a football club in the same way, no doubt that their probably are some football fans who do, but they will be labelled as "plastics" regardless.

Personally, I don't care about plastic fans, I just don't take them seriously and I think they're good for us as they take up the empty seats that were there from previous seasons.

This is not just what I think, it's just common knowledge in the football world.

see youve changed it again now its no longer just good enough to support your local team now you have to justify why you support your local team and make damn sure its not because they are successful.

of course if your father took you to the football as a kid you have a different affinity to anyone else going to the football is a family tradition part of your routine, you surround yourself with people youve grown up with, its familiar and comfortable, you can go to another game as a neutral with a friend and follow the same routine you would on match day at Cardiff. Get up have breakfast get to a pub drink 4 pints, get to the ground 15 minutes before kick off and watch the game 22 players trying to put the ball into a net at the opposite end of the field just as you would at Cardiff. You will never get the same vibes or emotions its the same but very different.

neither of this detracts from a mans right to pick his football team and however he chooses to justifies it, its his choice and who is anyone else to judge him.

why does a man who sits in front of sky or man u tv every saturday bother you so much? is he stealing something from you? is he robbing something from the club you support?

Are you a plastic fan?
If not why not?
and why cant we all be football fans however and whoever we choose to support?

Anybody who supports a club, and goes to as many of their games as possible, is not a 'plastic'. I know people who support Leeds, Everton, and Man Utd. Have done all their lives. Don't know why, but they go to games whenever they can. In my book, those are real fans. Others may disagree.

Agreed. Whoever you support and for whatever reason you support them for if you go semi regularly then your a real fan. I know a few blokes Cardiff born and bred who go up to United every game, home and often away. They have been for years, pre Fergie. On the other hand I know a Cardiff fan who only goes when it's Wembley, how he gets a ticket I don't know.

I know a Sunderland fan and a Manchester City fan who go up when they can, both Roath boys through and through and supported their chosen club since the 80s. Plastics are those who will f**k off once we go down.

Who is this Cardiff fan that you talk about

Obviously a Plastic fan is one you consider is less of a fan than you are, because in your own eyes you are the fan, and anyone who watches less often, started after you or doesn't get as upset as you when they lose or as happy when they win.

As far as I see it, any fan of Cardiff even those that don't get to games, is OK in my eyes, we all have different levels, different resources, different circumstances, whenever I go to my local there will be a few blokes many of them a good old age who will know more about what's going on down the club than I do, and they haven't been to a game in decades, and I love chatting to them.

Why is everyone so obsessed with looking down their noses at fans they consider to be less a fan or less important than them, why not live your own lives and let others do the same.

I love seeing new fans flooding to games, I been praying for these times for a lifetime.

Obviously a Plastic fan is one you consider is less of a fan than you are, because in your own eyes you are the fan, and anyone who watches less often, started after you or doesn't get as upset as you when they lose or as happy when they win.

As far as I see it, any fan of Cardiff even those that don't get to games, is OK in my eyes, we all have different levels, different resources, different circumstances, whenever I go to my local there will be a few blokes many of them a good old age who will know more about what's going on down the club than I do, and they haven't been to a game in decades, and I love chatting to them.

Why is everyone so obsessed with looking down their noses at fans they consider to be less a fan or less important than them, why not live your own lives and let others do the same.

I love seeing new fans flooding to games, I been praying for these times for a lifetime.

Don't know but perhaps its something to do with the fact if they were around when we needed them then we would have not got in such a financial mess.

Obviously a Plastic fan is one you consider is less of a fan than you are, because in your own eyes you are the fan, and anyone who watches less often, started after you or doesn't get as upset as you when they lose or as happy when they win.

As far as I see it, any fan of Cardiff even those that don't get to games, is OK in my eyes, we all have different levels, different resources, different circumstances, whenever I go to my local there will be a few blokes many of them a good old age who will know more about what's going on down the club than I do, and they haven't been to a game in decades, and I love chatting to them.

Why is everyone so obsessed with looking down their noses at fans they consider to be less a fan or less important than them, why not live your own lives and let others do the same.

I love seeing new fans flooding to games, I been praying for these times for a lifetime.

Don't know but perhaps its something to do with the fact if they were around when we needed them then we would have not got in such a financial mess.

absolute rubbish so its the fans fault we were in the mess we were in?

not successive chairmen making bad decisions?

and that justifies you to call people plastic

get off your high horse

I havent said anything about you changing wouldnt care if you have support your team however you want
majority of loyal fans? I assume thats the opposite to a plastic then. Dont have to like anything just putting my point of view across

How have I misunderstood anything youve said, what makes you think your so important I have to quote you?
what ive written is from my own personal experiences and the reasons why some people are plastics and some are not

in my experience ive yet to find a consistent answer there are similarities not supporting your home team is a big one but even then it breaks down and gets very complicated turning people who do support their local team plastics despite this fact.

supporting Manchester United seems to automatically make you a plastic fan despite living in manchester because if your a true Manc yould follow Man City. Now Man City fans are plastic! So all these Mancs who have been proud not to be those glory supporting idiots in red are now plastics themselves.

PLASTIC is inconsistent and idiotic and is only used to mock another supporter be it of another team or of the same team.

You said "people are so concerned that they are not a plastic fan they change the parameters to suit their personal situation to make sure they are not a plastic fan". I disagreed with you because I haven't changed anything to suit my personal situation to make sure I'm not a plastic fan.

You've misunderstood what I've said because you've taken what I've said and twisted the words which takes away my meaning. Probably by accident, or maybe I'm wrong and what you've written wasn't clear enough to me because it looked like you were talking about me as you're replying to me, that doesn't make me think I'm "so important".

You probably haven't seen any similarities from your experience but many other fans have, including me, and that's why some football fans are labelled as "plastics".

Supporting Manchester United doesn't automatically make you a plastic. If someone automatically assumed that, they are ignorant. Now if they support them BECAUSE of their success, like many do, then they are plastics. If Manchester United is their local team, then they wouldn't be called a plastic. What I'm saying is football fans shouldn't support a club JUST because they're successful, if they do, they'll be labelled as a plastic or a "glory hunter".

A lot of people misinterpret and over-use the word "plastic", I agree.

The majority of loyal football fans support their team because it's THEIR local team, or because they're following the team of a member of their family who introduced their team to them. I know this because this is the case for every football fan I know. I don't know any football fans who don't come under what I've said and have a real connection to a football club in the same way, no doubt that their probably are some football fans who do, but they will be labelled as "plastics" regardless.

Personally, I don't care about plastic fans, I just don't take them seriously and I think they're good for us as they take up the empty seats that were there from previous seasons.

This is not just what I think, it's just common knowledge in the football world.

see youve changed it again now its no longer just good enough to support your local team now you have to justify why you support your local team and make damn sure its not because they are successful.

of course if your father took you to the football as a kid you have a different affinity to anyone else going to the football is a family tradition part of your routine, you surround yourself with people youve grown up with, its familiar and comfortable, you can go to another game as a neutral with a friend and follow the same routine you would on match day at Cardiff. Get up have breakfast get to a pub drink 4 pints, get to the ground 15 minutes before kick off and watch the game 22 players trying to put the ball into a net at the opposite end of the field just as you would at Cardiff. You will never get the same vibes or emotions its the same but very different.

neither of this detracts from a mans right to pick his football team and however he chooses to justifies it, its his choice and who is anyone else to judge him.

why does a man who sits in front of sky or man u tv every saturday bother you so much? is he stealing something from you? is he robbing something from the club you support?

Are you a plastic fan?
If not why not?
and why cant we all be football fans however and whoever we choose to support?

I didn't say you have to justify anything. I'm just trying to explain to you that someone who has only just started supporting their local team because of the success the team is having, they will be labelled as a plastic.

See, you've mistunderstood me again. Plastics don't bother me. I'm JUST explaining to you why some people are labelled as plastics.

Am I a plastic fan? No.
Why not? Because I support my hometown team through thick and thin.
I didn't say we're not allowed to support any club we want. I'm JUST explaining why some football fans are labelled as plastics.

SL69 is reading this and scratching his head thinking 'Why are they now all discussing Pritsticks?"

Obviously a Plastic fan is one you consider is less of a fan than you are, because in your own eyes you are the fan, and anyone who watches less often, started after you or doesn't get as upset as you when they lose or as happy when they win.

As far as I see it, any fan of Cardiff even those that don't get to games, is OK in my eyes, we all have different levels, different resources, different circumstances, whenever I go to my local there will be a few blokes many of them a good old age who will know more about what's going on down the club than I do, and they haven't been to a game in decades, and I love chatting to them.

Why is everyone so obsessed with looking down their noses at fans they consider to be less a fan or less important than them, why not live your own lives and let others do the same.

I love seeing new fans flooding to games, I been praying for these times for a lifetime.

Don't know but perhaps its something to do with the fact if they were around when we needed them then we would have not got in such a financial mess.

absolute rubbish so its the fans fault we were in the mess we were in?

not successive chairmen making bad decisions?

and that justifies you to call people plastic

get off your high horse

You are a bit of a judgemental short tempered individual Jonny. I was going use a stronger than individual but decided to refrain . Anyway had to get that off my chest.

Right back on track. My post was a quote to what has been said before. I expect that would be picked up on but then I didn't account for you Jonny being the short tempered ............. you are.

Obviously a Plastic fan is one you consider is less of a fan than you are, because in your own eyes you are the fan, and anyone who watches less often, started after you or doesn't get as upset as you when they lose or as happy when they win.

As far as I see it, any fan of Cardiff even those that don't get to games, is OK in my eyes, we all have different levels, different resources, different circumstances, whenever I go to my local there will be a few blokes many of them a good old age who will know more about what's going on down the club than I do, and they haven't been to a game in decades, and I love chatting to them.

Why is everyone so obsessed with looking down their noses at fans they consider to be less a fan or less important than them, why not live your own lives and let others do the same.

I love seeing new fans flooding to games, I been praying for these times for a lifetime.

Don't know but perhaps its something to do with the fact if they were around when we needed them then we would have not got in such a financial mess.

absolute rubbish so its the fans fault we were in the mess we were in?

not successive chairmen making bad decisions?

and that justifies you to call people plastic

get off your high horse

You are a bit of a judgemental short tempered individual Jonny. I was going use a stronger than individual but decided to refrain . Anyway had to get that off my chest.

Right back on track. My post was a quote to what has been said before. I expect that would be picked up on but then I didn't account for you Jonny being the short tempered ............. you are.

you cant blame fans or lack of, for the financial state we were in Manchester United are in debt to figures I cant even imagine yet theyve got one of the biggest supporter bases in the world.

not judgemental not short tempered complete opposite actually just dont feel I have to give time to people who speak rubbish.

all your post says is im not a plastic as I was there when times were bad (along with a lot of people may I add). It just perpetuates the argument that unless you supported the club in this era you will never be recognised as a proper fan and highlights the hierarchy that certain fans try to create.

I havent said anything about you changing wouldnt care if you have support your team however you want
majority of loyal fans? I assume thats the opposite to a plastic then. Dont have to like anything just putting my point of view across

How have I misunderstood anything youve said, what makes you think your so important I have to quote you?
what ive written is from my own personal experiences and the reasons why some people are plastics and some are not

in my experience ive yet to find a consistent answer there are similarities not supporting your home team is a big one but even then it breaks down and gets very complicated turning people who do support their local team plastics despite this fact.

supporting Manchester United seems to automatically make you a plastic fan despite living in manchester because if your a true Manc yould follow Man City. Now Man City fans are plastic! So all these Mancs who have been proud not to be those glory supporting idiots in red are now plastics themselves.

PLASTIC is inconsistent and idiotic and is only used to mock another supporter be it of another team or of the same team.

You said "people are so concerned that they are not a plastic fan they change the parameters to suit their personal situation to make sure they are not a plastic fan". I disagreed with you because I haven't changed anything to suit my personal situation to make sure I'm not a plastic fan.

You've misunderstood what I've said because you've taken what I've said and twisted the words which takes away my meaning. Probably by accident, or maybe I'm wrong and what you've written wasn't clear enough to me because it looked like you were talking about me as you're replying to me, that doesn't make me think I'm "so important".

You probably haven't seen any similarities from your experience but many other fans have, including me, and that's why some football fans are labelled as "plastics".

Supporting Manchester United doesn't automatically make you a plastic. If someone automatically assumed that, they are ignorant. Now if they support them BECAUSE of their success, like many do, then they are plastics. If Manchester United is their local team, then they wouldn't be called a plastic. What I'm saying is football fans shouldn't support a club JUST because they're successful, if they do, they'll be labelled as a plastic or a "glory hunter".

A lot of people misinterpret and over-use the word "plastic", I agree.

The majority of loyal football fans support their team because it's THEIR local team, or because they're following the team of a member of their family who introduced their team to them. I know this because this is the case for every football fan I know. I don't know any football fans who don't come under what I've said and have a real connection to a football club in the same way, no doubt that their probably are some football fans who do, but they will be labelled as "plastics" regardless.

Personally, I don't care about plastic fans, I just don't take them seriously and I think they're good for us as they take up the empty seats that were there from previous seasons.

This is not just what I think, it's just common knowledge in the football world.

see youve changed it again now its no longer just good enough to support your local team now you have to justify why you support your local team and make damn sure its not because they are successful.

of course if your father took you to the football as a kid you have a different affinity to anyone else going to the football is a family tradition part of your routine, you surround yourself with people youve grown up with, its familiar and comfortable, you can go to another game as a neutral with a friend and follow the same routine you would on match day at Cardiff. Get up have breakfast get to a pub drink 4 pints, get to the ground 15 minutes before kick off and watch the game 22 players trying to put the ball into a net at the opposite end of the field just as you would at Cardiff. You will never get the same vibes or emotions its the same but very different.

neither of this detracts from a mans right to pick his football team and however he chooses to justifies it, its his choice and who is anyone else to judge him.

why does a man who sits in front of sky or man u tv every saturday bother you so much? is he stealing something from you? is he robbing something from the club you support?

Are you a plastic fan?
If not why not?
and why cant we all be football fans however and whoever we choose to support?

I didn't say you have to justify anything. I'm just trying to explain to you that someone who has only just started supporting their local team because of the success the team is having, they will be labelled as a plastic.

See, you've mistunderstood me again. Plastics don't bother me. I'm JUST explaining to you why some people are labelled as plastics.

Am I a plastic fan? No.
Why not? Because I support my hometown team through thick and thin.
I didn't say we're not allowed to support any club we want. I'm JUST explaining why some football fans are labelled as plastics.

stop taking stuff so personally im just challenging your thought process on why people consider other fans plastic and how stupid it is.

if your not bothered by so called 'plastics' great but I will say one thing if your not bothered by them your admitting they exist, im trying to say its a stupid term and everybody is a football fan and nothing more or less

Obviously a Plastic fan is one you consider is less of a fan than you are, because in your own eyes you are the fan, and anyone who watches less often, started after you or doesn't get as upset as you when they lose or as happy when they win.

As far as I see it, any fan of Cardiff even those that don't get to games, is OK in my eyes, we all have different levels, different resources, different circumstances, whenever I go to my local there will be a few blokes many of them a good old age who will know more about what's going on down the club than I do, and they haven't been to a game in decades, and I love chatting to them.

Why is everyone so obsessed with looking down their noses at fans they consider to be less a fan or less important than them, why not live your own lives and let others do the same.

I love seeing new fans flooding to games, I been praying for these times for a lifetime.

Now there's sense...

Obviously a Plastic fan is one you consider is less of a fan than you are, because in your own eyes you are the fan, and anyone who watches less often, started after you or doesn't get as upset as you when they lose or as happy when they win.

As far as I see it, any fan of Cardiff even those that don't get to games, is OK in my eyes, we all have different levels, different resources, different circumstances, whenever I go to my local there will be a few blokes many of them a good old age who will know more about what's going on down the club than I do, and they haven't been to a game in decades, and I love chatting to them.

Why is everyone so obsessed with looking down their noses at fans they consider to be less a fan or less important than them, why not live your own lives and let others do the same.

I love seeing new fans flooding to games, I been praying for these times for a lifetime.

Don't know but perhaps its something to do with the fact if they were around when we needed them then we would have not got in such a financial mess.

So by that measure we must have less than three thousand real fans, when you take into account those that have sadly died since the bad days.
You may lose your moderator status again if Carl finds out he's considered a plastic.

Obviously a Plastic fan is one you consider is less of a fan than you are, because in your own eyes you are the fan, and anyone who watches less often, started after you or doesn't get as upset as you when they lose or as happy when they win.

As far as I see it, any fan of Cardiff even those that don't get to games, is OK in my eyes, we all have different levels, different resources, different circumstances, whenever I go to my local there will be a few blokes many of them a good old age who will know more about what's going on down the club than I do, and they haven't been to a game in decades, and I love chatting to them.

Why is everyone so obsessed with looking down their noses at fans they consider to be less a fan or less important than them, why not live your own lives and let others do the same.

I love seeing new fans flooding to games, I been praying for these times for a lifetime.

Don't know but perhaps its something to do with the fact if they were around when we needed them then we would have not got in such a financial mess.

So by that measure we must have less than three thousand real fans, when you take into account those that have sadly died since the bad days.
You may lose your moderator status again if Carl finds out he's considered a plastic.

I have made it very clear what I consider to be a plastic. Indeed I posted my explanation in this thread. So I think my status is safe for now.

Im 15 and have been supporting Cardiff City for like 7 years now but before that I supported Man Utd. only because my brother supports them. Im half welsh but i havent watched a city game
Am I a Plastic?

Im 15 and have been supporting Cardiff City for like 7 years now but before that I supported Man Utd. only because my brother supports them. Im half welsh but i havent watched a city game
Am I a Plastic?

You've "supported" Cardiff City for 7 years but you haven't been to a single game... I wouldn't call you a plastic but I wouldn't call you a supporter either. I'd call you a fan.

Im 15 and have been supporting Cardiff City for like 7 years now but before that I supported Man Utd. only because my brother supports them. Im half welsh but i havent watched a city game
Am I a Plastic?

You've "supported" Cardiff City for 7 years but you haven't been to a single game... I wouldn't call you a plastic but I wouldn't call you a supporter either. I'd call you a fan.

dear me theres different categories now, it gets worse

hes 15 leave the kid alone

many reasons why he hasnt been to a game

doesnt live near Cardiff
cant afford a ticket
dad wont take him
mum wont let him go
doesnt sound like his brother is interested in taking him being a man u fan
can afford a ticket cant afford the travel

either way what right have you got to call a 15 year old kid anything

If you didn't go to the Cardiff 4-1 Hartlepool game in 1999 then you are a plastic end of.

http://www.11v11.com/matches/cardiff-ci ... 99-184119/

Im 15 and have been supporting Cardiff City for like 7 years now but before that I supported Man Utd. only because my brother supports them. Im half welsh but i havent watched a city game
Am I a Plastic?

You've "supported" Cardiff City for 7 years but you haven't been to a single game... I wouldn't call you a plastic but I wouldn't call you a supporter either. I'd call you a fan.

dear me theres different categories now, it gets worse

hes 15 leave the kid alone

many reasons why he hasnt been to a game

doesnt live near Cardiff
cant afford a ticket
dad wont take him
mum wont let him go
doesnt sound like his brother is interested in taking him being a man u fan
can afford a ticket cant afford the travel

either way what right have you got to call a 15 year old kid anything

He asked a question. I answered it for him based on my opinion.

I played football to a reasonable standard up to the ripe old age of 41. I'm in my 4th full season as a season ticket holder and yes I've experienced the cup finals and play offs. I didn't jump on the band wagon .... just got on board at the right time!!
You don't have to have followed City all your life through thick and thin to be a supporter surely.

I loves it!!