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Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:18 pm

Magadan wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:]
Have you been having lessons off Swansea Lad, it'll only be a £4 million deal if certain criteria is made, which would mean that the signing had been successful and he'd have earned his money!

ATM the deal is only worth the upfront fee, which is reportedly £2.25 - £2.5 million!


You can say it as much as you like, however the deal is £4m. If it wasnt then Swansea wouldn't have pulled out as they were willing to pay £2.5m.

And you can say it as much as you like, it's currently only £2.25 - £2.5 million, as it'll only be £4 million if the criteria is met and unless your name is Vincent Tan, you won't know what that criteria is Roathy!

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:19 pm

Magadan wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:]
Have you been having lessons off Swansea Lad, it'll only be a £4 million deal if certain criteria is made, which would mean that the signing had been successful and he'd have earned his money!

ATM the deal is only worth the upfront fee, which is reportedly £2.25 - £2.5 million!


You can say it as much as you like, however the deal is £4m. If it wasnt then Swansea wouldn't have pulled out as they were willing to pay £2.5m.


You can say it as much as you like Roathy, the deal is £2.25 m.
Bet he scores the winner against the jacks too. :thumbup: :ayatollah: :D

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:21 pm

Overthemoon wrote:
Magadan wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:]
Have you been having lessons off Swansea Lad, it'll only be a £4 million deal if certain criteria is made, which would mean that the signing had been successful and he'd have earned his money!

ATM the deal is only worth the upfront fee, which is reportedly £2.25 - £2.5 million!


You can say it as much as you like, however the deal is £4m. If it wasnt then Swansea wouldn't have pulled out as they were willing to pay £2.5m.

And you can say it as much as you like, it's currently only £2.25 - £2.5 million, as it'll only be £4 million if the criteria is met and unless your name is Vincent Tan, you won't know what that criteria is Roathy!


It doesnt matter what the criteria is. Its a £4m deal as that is the liable contracted payment. If criteria isnt met then the full sum isnt payable. Hiwever the fact criteria is added means the deal is £4m. Basic, basic stuff.

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:23 pm

Magadan wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
Magadan wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:]
Have you been having lessons off Swansea Lad, it'll only be a £4 million deal if certain criteria is made, which would mean that the signing had been successful and he'd have earned his money!

ATM the deal is only worth the upfront fee, which is reportedly £2.25 - £2.5 million!


You can say it as much as you like, however the deal is £4m. If it wasnt then Swansea wouldn't have pulled out as they were willing to pay £2.5m.

And you can say it as much as you like, it's currently only £2.25 - £2.5 million, as it'll only be £4 million if the criteria is met and unless your name is Vincent Tan, you won't know what that criteria is Roathy!


It doesnt matter what the criteria is. Its a £4m deal as that is the liable contracted payment. If criteria isnt met then the full sum isnt payable. Hiwever the fact criteria is added means the deal is £4m. Basic, basic stuff.

It'd have to be basic for you to understand it, but clearly it isn't basic enough! :lol:

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:25 pm

Overthemoon wrote:
Magadan wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
Magadan wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:]
Have you been having lessons off Swansea Lad, it'll only be a £4 million deal if certain criteria is made, which would mean that the signing had been successful and he'd have earned his money!

ATM the deal is only worth the upfront fee, which is reportedly £2.25 - £2.5 million!


You can say it as much as you like, however the deal is £4m. If it wasnt then Swansea wouldn't have pulled out as they were willing to pay £2.5m.

And you can say it as much as you like, it's currently only £2.25 - £2.5 million, as it'll only be £4 million if the criteria is met and unless your name is Vincent Tan, you won't know what that criteria is Roathy!


It doesnt matter what the criteria is. Its a £4m deal as that is the liable contracted payment. If criteria isnt met then the full sum isnt payable. Hiwever the fact criteria is added means the deal is £4m. Basic, basic stuff.

It'd have to be basic for you to understand it, but clearly it isn't basic enough! :lol:


Brilliant quip. Its still £4m though, unless you expect him to be crap and relegation occurs of course - then in 3 years time you will be correct :laughing6:

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:26 pm

Magadan wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:]
Have you been having lessons off Swansea Lad, it'll only be a £4 million deal if certain criteria is made, which would mean that the signing had been successful and he'd have earned his money!

ATM the deal is only worth the upfront fee, which is reportedly £2.25 - £2.5 million!


You can say it as much as you like, however the deal is £4m. If it wasnt then Swansea wouldn't have pulled out as they were willing to pay £2.5m.


You can talk some BULL SH*T

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:26 pm

Whatever you say Roathy!

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:27 pm

Glad we are all in agreeance.

Bit steep for someone with no resale value. Time will tell if its wise.

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:31 pm

The other day, the Jacks were saying how much they hated the evening post... now it claims this, they suddenly all read it and believe it again.. .

Fickle as f**k. :laughing5:

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:36 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:The other day, the Jacks were saying how much they hated the evening post... now it claims this, they suddenly all read it and believe it again.. .

Fickle as f**k. :laughing5:


The evening post is an awful rag with an odd agenda against swansea. considering they are based in the city its certainly curious. I, sure some still read it though as im sure some livepool fam buy the sun, we are alll different.

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:36 pm

Magadan wrote:Glad we are all in agreeance.

Bit steep for someone with no resale value. Time will tell if its wise.


Angry with life again roathy? It's the same time every day you sprout your nonsense.

Why don't you give it a rest? If you had signed him, it would have been an astute signing.

Because we've signed him, it's a poor signing.

From what I've seen on Bony, it been the best bit of business has it? 13.5 million for that?

I'd take Odenwingie every day of the week, great business for an initial 2.5 million

Top player.
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Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:37 pm

We pay 2.5 million upfront, then if he meets the criteria- presumably appearance based- we pay 4 million. So the deal is currently worth 2.5 million with the potential to be 4 million. Do you understand that you strange little jack?

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:40 pm

Bluebird_87 wrote:
Magadan wrote:Glad we are all in agreeance.

Bit steep for someone with no resale value. Time will tell if its wise.


Angry with life again roathy? It's the same time every day you sprout your nonsense.

Why don't you give it a rest? If you had signed him, it would have been an astute signing.

Because we've signed him, it's a poor signing.

From what I've seen on Bony, it been the best bit of business has it? 13.5 million for that?

I'd take Odenwingie every day of the week, great business for an initial 2.25 million.

Top player.


Angry? What ever for? Im being very fair.

I dont rate odemwingie, i said so when he was linked to us and not you. Im sure a quick search will confirm, i didnt want him at all and certainly not for £4m.

Ive also said im a bit dubious about Bony too. Although i havent seen enough of him to judge.

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:43 pm

AndoverBlue wrote:We pay 2.5 million upfront, then if he meets the criteria- presumably appearance based- we pay 4 million. So the deal is currently worth 2.5 million with the potential to be 4 million. Do you understand that you strange little jack?


Stop presuming would be my advice.

The deal is worth £4m, this is a fact. How much you will have to oay if that however is down to him and the team. In reality it will probably be based on appearances or staying up as they seem to be the main clauses when dealing with a newly promoted club. Appearances and survival in no way indicate the value of a player.

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:45 pm

Magadan wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:
Magadan wrote:Glad we are all in agreeance.

Bit steep for someone with no resale value. Time will tell if its wise.


Angry with life again roathy? It's the same time every day you sprout your nonsense.

Why don't you give it a rest? If you had signed him, it would have been an astute signing.

Because we've signed him, it's a poor signing.

From what I've seen on Bony, it been the best bit of business has it? 13.5 million for that?

I'd take Odenwingie every day of the week, great business for an initial 2.25 million.

Top player.


Angry? What ever for? Im being very fair.

I dont rate odemwingie, i said so when he was linked to us and not you. Im sure a quick search will confirm, i didnt want him at all and certainly not for £4m.

Ive also said im a bit dubious about Bony too. Although i havent seen enough of him to judge.



It's the same time every day though. Too many 'vbs' in ' sunny queensland' and you take out your anger with life on here. It's clear to see.
Just address the issue at hand and you'll be a better person because of it.

Well it's a bit of double standards really then isn't it, to mock a signing we've made when you have made a signing who offers nothing to what you already had. I think even for 4 million, he's a bargain. He's a top player and will offer more to our team. That's all that needs to be said.

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:48 pm

Magadan wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:
Magadan wrote:Glad we are all in agreeance.

Bit steep for someone with no resale value. Time will tell if its wise.


Angry with life again roathy? It's the same time every day you sprout your nonsense.

Why don't you give it a rest? If you had signed him, it would have been an astute signing.

Because we've signed him, it's a poor signing.

From what I've seen on Bony, it been the best bit of business has it? 13.5 million for that?

I'd take Odenwingie every day of the week, great business for an initial 2.25 million.

Top player.


Angry? What ever for? Im being very fair.

I dont rate odemwingie, i said so when he was linked to us and not you. Im sure a quick search will confirm, i didnt want him at all and certainly not for £4m.

Ive also said im a bit dubious about Bony too. Although i havent seen enough of him to judge.


£13.5m is a lot of money though isn't it. Especially for someone who hasn't played top flight football.

I admit, Cornelius is a gamble for £7.5m, but £13.5m is crazy.

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:51 pm

Bluebird_87 wrote:

It's the same time every day though. Too many 'vbs' in ' sunny queensland' and you take out your anger with life on here. It's clear to see.
Just address the issue at hand and you'll be a better person because of it.

Well it's a bit of double standards really then isn't it, to mock a signing we've made when you have made a signing who offers nothing to what you already had. I think even for 4 million, he's a bargain. He's a top player and will offer more to our team. That's all that needs to be said.


No idea what a vbs is, hiwever judging from the tone of your post it does sount pretty hateful which is odd considering im saying nothing untoward what so ever. Each to their own i guess.

Where have i mocked his signing then or are you just making things up? As for Bony, that a shocking opinion. How can you think he iffers us nothing we already had? We didnt even have a striker let alone a 15 stone powerhouse! :lol: hes played a total of - game and a half and got a goal to his name and that was against Man United, hes a good player. Im just not sure hes worth £12m but as i said i havent seen enoguh to judge. Nor have you i wouldnt have thought.

£4m, odemwingie and bargain are all words that conflict eachother in a single sentence for me im afraid. If you think hes a bargain then great, im not trying to change your mind.

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:53 pm

£12m? I heard you paid £13.5m

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:54 pm

Lamboy88 wrote:


£13.5m is a lot of money though isn't it. Especially for someone who hasn't played top flight football.

I admit, Cornelius is a gamble for £7.5m, but £13.5m is crazy.


£12.5m i think it was. And yes its a mammoth amount of money. However age is in his side and resale value shoukd remain high as hes a natural goalscorer as we have seen so far with his 2 in 3 in Europe and 1 in a game and a half in the prem (against man united). Time will tell in that one, i havent seen enough of him.

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:01 pm

Magadan wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:

It's the same time every day though. Too many 'vbs' in ' sunny queensland' and you take out your anger with life on here. It's clear to see.
Just address the issue at hand and you'll be a better person because of it.

Well it's a bit of double standards really then isn't it, to mock a signing we've made when you have made a signing who offers nothing to what you already had. I think even for 4 million, he's a bargain. He's a top player and will offer more to our team. That's all that needs to be said.


No idea what a vbs is, hiwever judging from the tone of your post it does sount pretty hateful which is odd considering im saying nothing untoward what so ever. Each to their own i guess.

Where have i mocked his signing then or are you just making things up? As for Bony, that a shocking opinion. How can you think he iffers us nothing we already had? We didnt even have a striker let alone a 15 stone powerhouse! :lol: hes played a total of - game and a half and got a goal to his name and that was against Man United, hes a good player. Im just not sure hes worth £12m but as i said i havent seen enoguh to judge. Nor have you i wouldnt have thought.

£4m, odemwingie and bargain are all words that conflict eachother in a single sentence for me im afraid. If you think hes a bargain then great, im not trying to change your mind.


Vb= Victoria bitter, a drink which is massive and possibly the most popular lager in Australia. A drink you should know about 'living there'.

Nothing hateful in my message, just giving an opinion that I'm entitled to.

15 stone powerhouse? Where by? :lol: All I've seen him do is fall over from what I've seen of him, but time will tell I guess.
All I'm saying is that it's strange that odenwingie is a pricey signing, yet when you lot were interested he was a player who would bring alot to Swansea. If he performs well, which I believe he will. He will be an inspired signing.

You did have strikers, just weren't up to premier league standard ( lita, schecter, Moore)

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:09 pm

Brilliant thread!

I should feel bad about laughing at him but i dont. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:10 pm

Bluebird_87 wrote:
Magadan wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:

It's the same time every day though. Too many 'vbs' in ' sunny queensland' and you take out your anger with life on here. It's clear to see.
Just address the issue at hand and you'll be a better person because of it.

Well it's a bit of double standards really then isn't it, to mock a signing we've made when you have made a signing who offers nothing to what you already had. I think even for 4 million, he's a bargain. He's a top player and will offer more to our team. That's all that needs to be said.


No idea what a vbs is, hiwever judging from the tone of your post it does sount pretty hateful which is odd considering im saying nothing untoward what so ever. Each to their own i guess.

Where have i mocked his signing then or are you just making things up? As for Bony, that a shocking opinion. How can you think he iffers us nothing we already had? We didnt even have a striker let alone a 15 stone powerhouse! :lol: hes played a total of - game and a half and got a goal to his name and that was against Man United, hes a good player. Im just not sure hes worth £12m but as i said i havent seen enoguh to judge. Nor have you i wouldnt have thought.

£4m, odemwingie and bargain are all words that conflict eachother in a single sentence for me im afraid. If you think hes a bargain then great, im not trying to change your mind.


Vb= Victoria bitter, a drink which is massive and possibly the most popular lager in Australia. A drink you should know about 'living there'.

Nothing hateful in my message, just giving an opinion that I'm entitled to.

15 stone powerhouse? Where by? :lol: All I've seen him do is fall over from what I've seen of him, but time will tell I guess.
All I'm saying is that it's strange that odenwingie is a pricey signing, yet when you lot were interested he was a player who would bring alot to Swansea. If he performs well, which I believe he will. He will be an inspired signing.

You did have strikers, just weren't up to premier league standard ( lita, schecter, Moore)


Then say victoria bitter and not vbs. heinz tomato ketchup is massively popular in britain too however im sure you would be a tad confused if i referred to it as htk. i am not sure why you refer to me living here in inverted commas however. Yep completely entitled to your opinion but your hostility is evident which is a little uncalled for given my contribution.

Anyway back to the point in hand. I guessed his weight, hes pretty big is my point im suprised you havent noticed. One of his legs is probably wider than both mine. You may have seen him fall over but if you watched him you probably also saw him score 3 times in 5 or 6 apprearaces which of course is what hes here to do.

You refer to "my lot" in a way in which you think we all have the same opinions? If that was the case at football clubs then you would all be loving the red would you not? Lita was an awful signing but still less than half what you have paid for someone with similar perceived attitude. Schecter was signed on loan and Moore was free and was sad to see him go as i thought he was a great little player.

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:15 pm

Obsessed.

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:15 pm

Obsessed.

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:17 pm

nigvaughn wrote:Obsessed.


Its been that way since i first joined here a few years ago. People love to discuss roathie, all because i have a footballing opinion too. Flattering i suppose.

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:19 pm

SL69 wrote:4 mil in the papers tiger.
Evening post .
:thumbup:


Don't pretend you read the paper. :laughing5:

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:23 pm

Magadan wrote:
nigvaughn wrote:Obsessed.


Its been that way since i first joined here a few years ago. People love to discuss roathie, all because i have a footballing opinion too. Flattering i suppose.



very rarely do you voice a footballing opinion

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:23 pm

SL69 wrote:In the paper, reports say u spent 4mill on your new striker with a 3 year deal :?and he is 32 .
We bid 1.8 because of his age but both u and stoke started bidding .
Great bit of business :lol:


2.5 million and it's apparently a 2 year contract, and yes a great bit of business. We just blew you out of the water because you have to admit you can't compete with us. As for the evening post :lol: a jack rag ;) Now stay off the lemons.

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:25 pm

paulh_85 wrote:
Magadan wrote:
nigvaughn wrote:Obsessed.


Its been that way since i first joined here a few years ago. People love to discuss roathie, all because i have a footballing opinion too. Flattering i suppose.



very rarely do you voice a footballing opinion


Very rarely, if ever, do i voice anything but.

That much is obvious.

Re: Surely not?

Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:38 pm

It's known as Vb and i you went into any bar in australia, they would also known what you mean. the logo also backs this up ( Australia cricket team sponsor). I just don't believe a word that comes out of your mouth I'm afraid, I guess you know why that is. Regardless of his size, I feel he will flop this season I'm afraid. Whereas odenwingie with his knowledge of the pl and a new lease of life will I feel prove to be an astute signing
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