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Re: Dont know why the banner against modern football

Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:30 am

I think it's about how you define "Modern Football"...

In Germany all Ultras are against Modern Football, to me Ultras ARE a part of Modern Football. Almost every club has Ultras now, who claim to be the only ones who create an atmosphere. I loved the atmosphere before the Ultras, spontanious not this monotone "Lalalala..." etc

I am against those business-owners of clubs, like VT, Glazers, Hammam, Riddler, Abramovich etc
They ARE a vital part of Modern Football...I don't want them in charge, they dont care for the clubs, the fans...

I am against high ticket prices and the ridiculous wages some "superstars" get...
Again, part of Modern Football...

I like watching football at a high level but the clubs ARE a part of Modern Football...

I am not against Modern Football entirely, but I would want a reform, a change. Football isnt like its supposed to be, a family sport, affordable, so the working man can go with his kids and enjoy the beautiful game.

Re: Dont know why the banner against modern football

Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:37 am

Hofmeister wrote:I think it's about how you define "Modern Football"...

In Germany all Ultras are against Modern Football, to me Ultras ARE a part of Modern Football. Almost every club has Ultras now, who claim to be the only ones who create an atmosphere. I loved the atmosphere before the Ultras, spontanious not this monotone "Lalalala..." etc

I am against those business-owners of clubs, like VT, Glazers, Hammam, Riddler, Abramovich etc
They ARE a vital part of Modern Football...I don't want them in charge, they dont care for the clubs, the fans...

I am against high ticket prices and the ridiculous wages some "superstars" get...
Again, part of Modern Football...

I like watching football at a high level but the clubs ARE a part of Modern Football...

I am not against Modern Football entirely, but I would want a reform, a change. Football isnt like its supposed to be, a family sport, affordable, so the working man can go with his kids and enjoy the beautiful game.

Life is a bit more complicated than black or white, Thanks for bringing a bit of nuance to the thread.

Re: Dont know why the banner against modern football

Mon Aug 19, 2013 2:50 pm

Hofmeister wrote:I think it's about how you define "Modern Football"...

In Germany all Ultras are against Modern Football, to me Ultras ARE a part of Modern Football. Almost every club has Ultras now, who claim to be the only ones who create an atmosphere. I loved the atmosphere before the Ultras, spontanious not this monotone "Lalalala..." etc

I am against those business-owners of clubs, like VT, Glazers, Hammam, Riddler, Abramovich etc
They ARE a vital part of Modern Football...I don't want them in charge, they dont care for the clubs, the fans...

I am against high ticket prices and the ridiculous wages some "superstars" get...
Again, part of Modern Football...

I like watching football at a high level but the clubs ARE a part of Modern Football...

I am not against Modern Football entirely, but I would want a reform, a change. Football isnt like its supposed to be, a family sport, affordable, so the working man can go with his kids and enjoy the beautiful game.


well put :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Dont know why the banner against modern football

Mon Aug 19, 2013 3:36 pm

The banner is indefensible.

If you're against Football you don't go to ANY matches. If you are against MODERN Football you don't go to Premier League matches, they epitomise the modern game.

There are plenty of local Cardiff teams that do not represent the modern game. You could even go to Newport County if you wanted League football.

The banner looks idiotic at a Premier League Game. By all means show it at a lower league game or even outside a Premier League game, but inside it shows a lack of knowledge as to what they are against.

We all know the banner was created for the Keep Cardiff Blue campaign and ever since it has been seen it has been nearly unanimously debunked yet STILL they show it.

Get a part of it cut off and it becomes a relevant banner again.

You can't have it all ways guys. Many of our fans seem to think they deserve all the cash, all the success, all the best players, all the ground improvements and all the debt to equity but STILL think they have the right to get it all on their terms.

Re: Dont know why the banner against modern football

Mon Aug 19, 2013 3:39 pm

CF14-SE14 wrote:
Hofmeister wrote:I think it's about how you define "Modern Football"...

In Germany all Ultras are against Modern Football, to me Ultras ARE a part of Modern Football. Almost every club has Ultras now, who claim to be the only ones who create an atmosphere. I loved the atmosphere before the Ultras, spontanious not this monotone "Lalalala..." etc

I am against those business-owners of clubs, like VT, Glazers, Hammam, Riddler, Abramovich etc
They ARE a vital part of Modern Football...I don't want them in charge, they dont care for the clubs, the fans...

I am against high ticket prices and the ridiculous wages some "superstars" get...
Again, part of Modern Football...

I like watching football at a high level but the clubs ARE a part of Modern Football...

I am not against Modern Football entirely, but I would want a reform, a change. Football isnt like its supposed to be, a family sport, affordable, so the working man can go with his kids and enjoy the beautiful game.


well put :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


great comments mate :ayatollah:

Re: Dont know why the banner against modern football

Mon Aug 19, 2013 3:40 pm

Wayne S wrote:The banner is indefensible.

If you're against Football you don't go to ANY matches. If you are against MODERN Football you don't go to Premier League matches, they epitomise the modern game.

There are plenty of local Cardiff teams that do not represent the modern game. You could even go to Newport County if you wanted League football.

The banner looks idiotic at a Premier League Game. By all means show it at a lower league game or even outside a Premier League game, but inside it shows a lack of knowledge as to what they are against.

We all know the banner was created for the Keep Cardiff Blue campaign and ever since it has been seen it has been nearly unanimously debunked yet STILL they show it.

Get a part of it cut off and it becomes a relevant banner again.

You can't have it all ways guys. Many of our fans seem to think they deserve all the cash, all the success, all the best players, all the ground improvements and all the debt to equity but STILL think they have the right to get it all on their terms.

I could have read a recent article wrongly, but i believe the Against Modern Football is a european-wide grass roots football movement. Not unique to us or started by the rebrand. Might help to look into things a bit before branishing something 'indefnsible'.
I suppose as others have already said, you can love football and your football club but dislike the road it is going down. Hence against modern football, I'm suprised so many people take the wording literally without engaging with the issues that this slogan raises.

Re: Dont know why the banner against modern football

Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:20 pm

Real_Blue_Really wrote:
Wayne S wrote:We all know the banner was created for the Keep Cardiff Blue campaign and ever since it has been seen it has been nearly unanimously debunked yet STILL they show it.

I could have read a recent article wrongly, but i believe the Against Modern Football is a european-wide grass roots football movement. Not unique to us or started by the rebrand. Might help to look into things a bit before branishing something 'indefnsible'.

I don't know if you read a recent article wrongly but you are definitely reading my post incorrectly. I said the banner was created for the 'Keep Cardiff Blue' campaign and not the 'Against Modern Football' campaign.

The banner was obviously created in response to the rebrand why else would it say 'Keep Cardiff Blue'? No one said the 'Against Modern Football' campaign was started by us or started by the rebrand'.

Re: Dont know why the banner against modern football

Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:42 pm

Wayne S wrote:
Real_Blue_Really wrote:
Wayne S wrote:We all know the banner was created for the Keep Cardiff Blue campaign and ever since it has been seen it has been nearly unanimously debunked yet STILL they show it.

I could have read a recent article wrongly, but i believe the Against Modern Football is a european-wide grass roots football movement. Not unique to us or started by the rebrand. Might help to look into things a bit before branishing something 'indefnsible'.

I don't know if you read a recent article wrongly but you are definitely reading my post incorrectly. I said the banner was created for the 'Keep Cardiff Blue' campaign and not the 'Against Modern Football' campaign.

The banner was obviously created in response to the rebrand why else would it say 'Keep Cardiff Blue'? No one said the 'Against Modern Football' campaign was started by us or started by the rebrand'.


You were saying an 'against modern football' banner isn't nessacary at the top flight and it was created for KCB. It wasn't created soley for KCB as it's reflecting a larger concern within the game. Our rebrand is symptomatic of modern footballs direction.Why do you think this banner doesn't belong at bigger clubs in the top league or at a club thats been rebranded in a way unique to the modern game?

Re: Dont know why the banner against modern football

Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:41 pm

It was behind me at Wolves away end of last season. Some pissed up bird and geeky boyfriend. Pathetic.

Re: Dont know why the banner against modern football

Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:04 pm

When did 'modern football' begin?

Re: Dont know why the banner against modern football

Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:16 pm

llangainbluebird wrote:When did 'modern football' begin?

21 years ago, some would say, when Sky Tv got involved.

Re: Dont know why the banner against modern football

Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:21 pm

carlccfc wrote:
llangainbluebird wrote:When did 'modern football' begin?

21 years ago, some would say, when Sky Tv got involved.


Is it that long ago?
If that's the advent of modern football I'm a massive fan. Loves it I do!