" VINCENT TAN REFUSES TO RULE OUT NAME CHANGE "

it wont happen! not under my watch, ill send him home myself.. prick!

Here we go again,have a pop at tan time,there is no name change on the cards ffs

FFS here we go again cue the moaning & twisting of his words.

Yes indeed. Never mind comments like “But definitely we are not changing anything now.” because it won't suit the negative agendas of those who simply cannot see the wood for the trees

A bit like voting for a particular political party "because my father did" or "I always have done"

Doesn't make it right; particularly if the other party (in this case Tan) have the better overall manifesto, does it?

Sven, he's also quoted as saying "Never say never" & that he admired their change of name... Hardly something to have confidence in?

Sven, he's also quoted as saying "Never say never" & that he admired their change of name... Hardly something to have confidence in?

Trust you to only look to find anything you see as bad

Sven, he's also quoted as saying "Never say never" & that he admired their change of name... Hardly something to have confidence in?

Trust you to only look to find anything you see as bad

I'm right though, aren't I? He's also quoted as saying those things.

By this time next year Cardiff Dragons

saying never say never just leaves the door open for a possible name change.

Tan always leaves me woundering what next never say never to me means its possible .

He has brought us the prem league spent a lot of money on players and reduced are club debt which is brilliant it really is.

He has changed are identity completely with a small possibility of a name change which is utter utter bollocks .

Which one outways the other here well for me the pain he leaves me in changing the identity means I am left with no choice other than to hate the man for what he has done .

The true identity of my club is far more to me than the prem or anything else and if he ever does change the name then already we have payed to big a price for all his changes another change I think would finsh me off.

I used to go down and watch city with an average of 6000 give or take sometimes more sometimes less but all the fans would share the same passion no matter what league we was in ,We were all proud devoted fans all of a suddon the fans now seem to just want the succsess no matter what which to me is so so wrong what about the club first then succsess.

Times change yes but not alaways for the best I feel like i have been punished with loosing are identity and for what whole hartedly loveing the club with a passion and the identity the blue shirt and badge symbolised all of it.

Maybe Tan hasnt finshed dishing out his punishments yet but again why.

Time will tell in the end now isnt the right time but i do think he will change the name in the end and my club will then be dead compared to how i grow up with it which for me would be devestating.

well said brickyblue, good post

He's already made a club statement saying we will always be Cardiff City did he not?

He's already made a club statement saying we will always be Cardiff City did he not?

& he's already said "never say never" today.

He's already made a club statement saying we will always be Cardiff City did he not?

You are correct Woodbvious.

I'm going to try and be the devils advocate here and expect to get shot down in flames by those with no vision of what lies ahead in football. I hate all the change myself but it will happen. Daya always said we would be franchise Malaysia or something to that effect and he's not far away from the truth. Football will in the coming years become a franchise system similar to American Football, fortunately for the people of Cardiff and the valleys we have a man in control who has the vision to see the future and to be part of that future we have to be financially viable and right near the top table of English football to be involved. Just look at the pace that finances in football have been increasing in the last decade and you will see it only has one way to go for most football clubs and that's into oblivion, but the few that survive will be the ones flying off into the stratosphere where football finances are concerned. There will eventually be an European League and to be a part of that and the future of franchise football we must be guided by Tans business vision. It wont be pretty on times but I think we will survive as many others fall by the wayside. Instead of going back to our caves we will be heading for the stars we just wont be called Cardiff City FC anymore. I don't like it but sure as eggs it will happen. We live with it or we die

I am not sure how he hopes that the club will make a 20 million profit.

The Jacks and Blackpool posted a handy profit but without spending much on transfers or selling players and by paying low wages - non of which applies to us.

I know that there is the big tv money increae this year but this has been invested in players wages and fees already.

Maybe we should have a poll on the profit or loss for the 2013/14 season ?

So all you guys moaning are following BU who also want to change our name to Cardiff City The Bluebirds. So im assuming if Tan changed it to that then you'd be ok with it?

I purposely try to stay clear of the Blue/Red/Name change situation. However, in this instance, I would like to pose one question......

We are all aware of the Marketing Brands in the NFL. Dallas Cowboys. Jacksonville Jaguars etc.......

If our name was changed from Cardiff City to Cardiff "Bluebirds" - What would people think?

As long as the name has Cardiff in it I am not bothered.

I would not mind just Cardiff FC though like Arsenal FC or Liverpool FC although I suspect we'll be Cardiff Dragons FC.

Totally agree. If we became Cardiff Dragons, that would be it for me, we have reluctantly taken on the red rebrand and beer mat badge, we don't like it, but at least the bluebird is still there and we are still Cardiff city,

A name change would infuriate people beyond belief, I believe that if Tan sells up now though, we have a premier league club with great players, so we would be an attractive proposition for a lot of investors

Agree. A name change that includes the nickname of a club or anything like that or the to be nickname of us as thats the way its going is just stupid. I think names should always stay separate as I see names as the true identity. I think nicknames and logos and so on are just brand identity but everything is in the name.

I would only accept something similar to what we have.

Cardiff City FC
Cardiff FC - drop the City - thats fine by me as its still Cardiff in it and no stupid nickname or corporation like Red Bull

Cardiff & The Vale FC is even better than Cardiff Dragons FC and is similar to Brighton & Hove Albion and would also make perfect sense to get people from those areas more involved and supporting the club. Although the clubs in those areas might not like it it would make more sense than dragons.

If Tan wants dragons then just the nickname FFS and he can put the dragon logo on Asian TV to appease the people there. If he puts dragons or anything like that in the name it will be a disgrace.

Ah well another week of tan is a ****ect ect ! Ces' vie!

Dont log on then.

I'm going to try and be the devils advocate here and expect to get shot down in flames by those with no vision of what lies ahead in football. I hate all the change myself but it will happen. Daya always said we would be franchise Malaysia or something to that effect and he's not far away from the truth. Football will in the coming years become a franchise system similar to American Football, fortunately for the people of Cardiff and the valleys we have a man in control who has the vision to see the future and to be part of that future we have to be financially viable and right near the top table of English football to be involved. Just look at the pace that finances in football have been increasing in the last decade and you will see it only has one way to go for most football clubs and that's into oblivion, but the few that survive will be the ones flying off into the stratosphere where football finances are concerned. There will eventually be an European League and to be a part of that and the future of franchise football we must be guided by Tans business vision. It wont be pretty on times but I think we will survive as many others fall by the wayside. Instead of going back to our caves we will be heading for the stars we just wont be called Cardiff City FC anymore. I don't like it but sure as eggs it will happen. We live with it or we die

see what you are saying maybe you will be right i dont think so but hay what ever but why do we have to expect to change the name Cardiff City we as fans should stand up for the club we love .I hope what you say never happens but who knows

Carl I must say by using that heading you knew you would be purposefully stirring the rebrand pot again, for whose benefit, I do not know but there you go as one must be careful what one says

The headline is from Media Wales.

Not sure where they have got it from as he actually does rule out a name change. He says we are not changing name.

In a new section he then says in any organization you need to keep evolving. His motto is never say never and he says this in a seperate bit after the hull name change chat is over.

Watch the video on walesonline.

Awful reporting and mediawales might find themselves banned from ccfc if they continue to twist stuff to make headlines.

Name change would kill it for me. In any ways it's already a distant thing. Seeing Cardiff lift the a championship title was amazing. All that league cup, FA cup, play-off dread washed away.

Cardiff Fc wouldn't be too bad, but Dragons. Wtf is that? I'd rather go watch the Devils, you can have a pint while you watch the game.

I purposely try to stay clear of the Blue/Red/Name change situation. However, in this instance, I would like to pose one question......

We are all aware of the Marketing Brands in the NFL. Dallas Cowboys. Jacksonville Jaguars etc.......

If our name was changed from Cardiff City to Cardiff "Bluebirds" - What would people think?

Stupid as we play in red and soon the hole stadium will be red with us all singing bluebirds bluebirds would be a joke but i will never stop

Porthcawl Dons has a nice ring to it

I purposely try to stay clear of the Blue/Red/Name change situation. However, in this instance, I would like to pose one question......

We are all aware of the Marketing Brands in the NFL. Dallas Cowboys. Jacksonville Jaguars etc.......

If our name was changed from Cardiff City to Cardiff "Bluebirds" - What would people think?

American sports team have a nickname that represent the area the come from. Dallas is renown for the Cowboy and Pittsburgh Steelers goes without saying. Going on that logic Cardiff Bluebirds would be acceptable to most. However and lets be honest here Tan is pushing for Cradiff Dragons. Why because it represents Malaysia/China. Thats what the Cardiff City fans needs to be aware of.

I purposely try to stay clear of the Blue/Red/Name change situation. However, in this instance, I would like to pose one question......

We are all aware of the Marketing Brands in the NFL. Dallas Cowboys. Jacksonville Jaguars etc.......

If our name was changed from Cardiff City to Cardiff "Bluebirds" - What would people think?

American sports team have a nickname that represent the area the come from. Dallas is renown for the Cowboy and Pittsburgh Steelers goes without saying. Going on that logic Cardiff Bluebirds would be acceptable to most. However and lets be honest here Tan is pushing for Cradiff Dragons. Why because it represents Malaysia/China. Thats what the Cardiff City fans needs to be aware of.

oh i am aware of it dont mean i have to like it does it he hasnt done it so far hope he never does more fans will be gone for good

I purposely try to stay clear of the Blue/Red/Name change situation. However, in this instance, I would like to pose one question......

We are all aware of the Marketing Brands in the NFL. Dallas Cowboys. Jacksonville Jaguars etc.......

If our name was changed from Cardiff City to Cardiff "Bluebirds" - What would people think?

American sports team have a nickname that represent the area the come from. Dallas is renown for the Cowboy and Pittsburgh Steelers goes without saying. Going on that logic Cardiff Bluebirds would be acceptable to most. However and lets be honest here Tan is pushing for Cradiff Dragons. Why because it represents Wales/Malaysia/China. Thats what the Cardiff City fans needs to be aware of.

Edited your post for you!

Some the posts are laughable to be honest, we have had our chances to remonstrate and demonstrate, there is not the strength in feeling when the team are doing well, winning games, winning promotion, signing top players etc etc. All this rubbish over and over about always being blue, is redundant, if we are still supporting the team then we ave all accepted it. I would also say, that any new buyer would be an idiot to change back to Blue. Red is a more marketable colour in the Far East and the Dragon is a stronger symbol, it may be bollocks to us, but Im afraid its true for them, who are emotionally detached from the club. Lets be honest if someone buys the club in the future they will probably be Asan or far eastern, so it would make just as much sense to them as it does to Tan.
We will at some point become the Dragons, it fits into their marketing logic and I think most of us will swallow the bitter pill as long as we are succesful, but make no mistake, should we get relegated this year then the shit will hit the fan and the nasty protests will begin. If we stay up, I reckon all the rebranding will be accepted and even if relegated the season after most will still accept it. This is a massive season in all sorts of ways, thanks to the wisdom of Tan

Carl I must say by using that heading you knew you would be purposefully stirring the rebrand pot again, for whose benefit, I do not know but there you go as one must be careful what one says

Jules the headline is from Media Wales, I copied and pasted two news stories and put them on here with the headlines used on their site.

Sven, he's also quoted as saying "Never say never" & that he admired their change of name... Hardly something to have confidence in?

You're not wrong, Barry Chuckle but he hasn't confirmed he will do it either, so it can be seen as a positive or a negative depending on agendas

The confidence is certainly lacking in certain areas of Tan's reign (i.e. the colour change) but in others (maybe more important in relation to the viability of the club itself) my personal opinion is that we have never been in a better position and the debt-to-equity (correct me if I am wrong) ensures that Tan HAS to be successful in order to get a return on his shares