Problem with red seats is...

We play in red now and in a blue stadium. It is therefore just as easy, in the future, to play in blue in a red stadium.

If our current owner can slowly turn everything red, a future owner can do likewise and slowly turn us blue.

But carry on if you want to rile the masses and give an opinion that suggests there's no hope.

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I have said several times that I believe one day we will return to blue. It is my belief but I have never said it will happen and it has no bearing on my acceptance of the rebrand

You are back to your old ways, making it up as you go along.

You have. You said it here: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=114432&p=1153167&hilit=+Return+to+blue#p1153167

Whatever he is up to we are stuck with it for now but one day we will return to blue. Dead raving certainty IMO.

Well that "dead raving certainty" (your words ) is going to be made a lot less likely with a stadium covered in red seats...

Not quite true is it, afterall, there are already apprx 27,000 blue seats in the stadium

Fine by me. The colour isn't important, as long as the name of the club remains the same Cardiff City will always be Cardiff City.

It will lessen the chance of any new owner changing us back to blue in the future. A lot of people are happy to go along with this rebrand & assume a new owner will change us back (God knows why, mind).

SHOULD the seats in the stadium turn red (although it is just a rumour at this time), the likelihood of this happening drops severely in my eyes.

Should the stadium seats all turn red, I fear Cardiff City will not wear blue at home again.

A new Chinese owner buys a red club, he has no business or moral imperitive for a reverting to blue. It won't happen, could be a long decade or 2 for the reluctant reds SUFFERING a poxy rebrand. But hats off, they put the Malaysianbusiness before their needs and endured the sky sports fairy tale like true martyrs.

It will lessen the chance of any new owner changing us back to blue in the future. A lot of people are happy to go along with this rebrand & assume a new owner will change us back (God knows why, mind).

SHOULD the seats in the stadium turn red (although it is just a rumour at this time), the likelihood of this happening drops severely in my eyes.

Should the stadium seats all turn red, I fear Cardiff City will not wear blue at home again.

Alex it is not just a rumour it is a fact I promise you.

Alex it is not just a rumour it is a fact I promise you.

I have no doubt about that Annis, though I had to post it in my OP as someone will have jumped on me, telling me that it was just a rumour otherwise.

Are we now marching to keep our stadium blue? God al mighty, when will the reds wake up. and ask themselves ' How much is enough?' Ok he's using his cheque book as Lube, but come on, aren't you feeling sore?

Fine by me. The colour isn't important, as long as the name of the club remains the same Cardiff City will always be Cardiff City.

Why would you stop supporting them if they became Cardiff Dragons?

It is just a name, still the same club.

Actually in my eyes the hybrid that we have is even worse. Whilst Tan owns the club we are a red club and with that in mind, I'd rather we looked like a red club.

It surprises me that some city fans would rather see the club face another winding order and possible liquidation rather than change the colour of the shirts.

Don't get we wrong, I wish we still played in blue, but as long as we're still playing (and in the Premier League no less!!) then surely that's gotta be a good thing.

One thing that does confuse me though, why didn't he just buy a team that already plays in red?

Are we now marching to keep our stadium blue? God al mighty, when will the reds wake up. and ask themselves ' How much is enough?' Ok he's using his cheque book as Lube, but come on, aren't you feeling sore?

I hope we stay red for the next few decades just to piss people like you off

BU or some fans group should have lobbied for black seats. Good go between and you wouldn't have people spray painting them blue.

I agree it does heighten the redness of Cardiff City FC but I think I'd rather play in blue with a red stadium than the other way around.

Fine by me. The colour isn't important, as long as the name of the club remains the same Cardiff City will always be Cardiff City.

Why would you stop supporting them if they became Cardiff Dragons?

It is just a name, still the same club.

If you can accept a name change but not a colour change that really is strange

We'll never play in blue again unless we financially collapse, enter administration and the fans rebuild the club themselves. People need to accept the truth and the current future of Cardiff City FC is red and thats just the way it is.

If the seats change to red then if we ever enter admin the colour of them wont matter as fans can quite happily rip them out and order new seats to be put back in when they can. Under Tan we'll always be red at home and I believe that he's done it purposely to appeal to the rich in Asia who will come in and keep us red as they prefer it.

The Chinese have only ever been interested in clubs that are red (Liverpool, United) or yellow and its quite obvious that is the market Tan wants to get on board here or something is in the pipeline. Red at home, yellow away - the colours of the Chinese flag.

I would rather us blue or even yellow at home than red but the simple fact is we have what we have and thats the way its going to be.

This may offend some but I think people are living in cloud cuckoo land if they think we will be blue under Tan. He said it himself that we wont be blue under his ownership at home so he's been straight up and told them to their faces.

People keep saying 'but he needs to learn the game and what matters' but do you think he's stupid? No he's not, how many times must he ask 'do I look stupid?'. He's a very clever and astute businessman.

HE KNOWS FULLY WELL WHAT THE BLUEBIRD AND BLUE MEANS TO THE FANS BUT HES PUTTING SURVIVAL, MONEY AND ASIAN MARKETING PRINCIPLES BEFORE IT.

At the end of the day, Tan has won. He's got his way and thats because he's got the stake in the club and the one that matters and is pulling all the strings.

Sorry but its the harsh and hard to take truth. Its about time people soaked it up, saw the truth for what it is and started dealing with it. It ain't easy but life ain't always easy. Its hard more often than not.

Here will come the 'what do we do now? just roll over and let Tan get his way?' and my response to that is we've already rolled over enough last summer for Tan to get his way and he took the opportunity when it arose.

Last summer was the time to fight the rebrand if there was to be a fight, before the Premier League profit making dream was achieved and before the Tan made any changes. Some will say Tan could have forced the changes through but if people really were offended by the rebrand they would have chased Tan out of town like the Jacks did with Petty.

THE MAJORITY OF FANS AT THAT TIME WANTED SECURITY, STABILITY AND SURVIVAL RATHER THAN THE TRADITIONAL ATTIRE OF CARDIFF CITY FC. THAT IS A TRUTH WE MUST ALL ACCEPT.

Fine by me. The colour isn't important, as long as the name of the club remains the same Cardiff City will always be Cardiff City.

Why would you stop supporting them if they became Cardiff Dragons?

It is just a name, still the same club.

If you can accept a name change but not a colour change that really is strange

Why?

Cardiff Blues, Newport Gwent Dragons, Bradford Bulls, Leeds Rhinos, Wigan Warriors, Leicester Tigers..

All name changes, deemed acceptable, whereas keeping the same colours was seen as essential to the identity.

Honest to god, I accept that others think differently, but I'd rather us play in Blue and be called the Cardiff City Bluebirds, than be Cardiff City in name only.

I want Cardiff City, in blue. But us playing in red with a dragon on our chest is no more the real Cardiff City than if we had some daft American nickname.

Fine by me. The colour isn't important, as long as the name of the club remains the same Cardiff City will always be Cardiff City.

Why would you stop supporting them if they became Cardiff Dragons?

It is just a name, still the same club.

If you can accept a name change but not a colour change that really is strange

Why?

Cardiff Blues, Newport Gwent Dragons, Bradford Bulls, Leeds Rhinos, Wigan Warriors, Leicester Tigers..

All name changes, deemed acceptable, whereas keeping the same colours was seen as essential to the identity.

Honest to god, I accept that others think differently, but I'd rather us play in Blue and be called the Cardiff City Bluebirds, than be Cardiff City in name only.

I want Cardiff City, in blue. But us playing in red with a dragon on our chest is no more the real Cardiff City than if we had some daft American nickname.

The colour is massive to me also, right in your face at the game, How can you sing all the blue songs knowing yourside are in rebranded red strip

[quote="JBCCFC1927"
Last summer was the time to fight the rebrand if there was to be a fight, before the Premier League profit making dream was achieved and before the Tan made any changes. Some will say Tan could have forced the changes through but if people really were offended by the rebrand they would have chased Tan out of town like the Jacks did with Petty.

THE MAJORITY OF FANS AT THAT TIME WANTED SECURITY, STABILITY AND SURVIVAL RATHER THAN THE TRADITIONAL ATTIRE OF CARDIFF CITY FC. THAT IS A TRUTH WE MUST ALL ACCEPT.

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I'm in that catagory ...
Tan can't be compared to Petty at swansea...

We'll never play in blue again unless we financially collapse, enter administration and the fans rebuild the club themselves.

You always build an argument on a false premiss and run with it to a logical conclusion without considering alternatives at any juncture during the monologue, it's quite odd.

We'll never play in blue again unless we financially collapse, enter administration and the fans rebuild the club themselves.

You always build an argument on a false premiss and run with it to a logical conclusion without considering alternatives at any juncture during the monologue, it's quite odd.

Its the truth. Tan has said 'at home we'll always be red'. That is FACTUAL INFORMATION STRAIGHT FROM HIS MOUTH.

It is what it is but continue to disagree and keep tormenting yourself if you like. Im passing caring if you want to cry about it as you wont achieve shit anyway so all the best buddy.

We'll never play in blue again unless we financially collapse, enter administration and the fans rebuild the club themselves.

You always build an argument on a false premiss and run with it to a logical conclusion without considering alternatives at any juncture during the monologue, it's quite odd.

Its the truth. Tan has said 'at home we'll always be red'. That is FACTUAL INFORMATION STRAIGHT FROM HIS MOUTH.

It is what it is but continue to disagree and keep tormenting yourself if you like. Im passing caring if you want to cry about it as you wont achieve shit anyway so all the best buddy.

Don't see what the fuss is with the colour of seats. Prior to the early 90s there wasn't a single blue seat at Ninian Park, it didnt seem to be an issue then.

We'll never play in blue again unless we financially collapse, enter administration and the fans rebuild the club themselves.

You always build an argument on a false premiss and run with it to a logical conclusion without considering alternatives at any juncture during the monologue, it's quite odd.

Its the truth. Tan has said 'at home we'll always be red'. That is FACTUAL INFORMATION STRAIGHT FROM HIS MOUTH.

It is what it is but continue to disagree and keep tormenting yourself if you like. Im passing caring if you want to cry about it as you wont achieve shit anyway so all the best buddy.

Do you have the transcript of Tan saying that?

Do you have the transcript of Tan saying that?

Its in the end of year speech. Listen to it, its on YouTube.

It was here in this thread but the video has been removed.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=111678

If you had seen it he says in there 'AT HOME WE WILL ALWAYS BE RED'.

Straight from the horses mouth.

& whilst we are in red at home, there will always be a section of supporters unhappy with that.

& whilst we are in red at home, there will always be a section of supporters unhappy with that.

Theres people unhappy with communism in China but it still doesn't stop their government enforcing it.

It will lessen the chance of any new owner changing us back to blue in the future. A lot of people are happy to go along with this rebrand & assume a new owner will change us back (God knows why, mind).

SHOULD the seats in the stadium turn red (although it is just a rumour at this time), the likelihood of this happening drops severely in my eyes.

Should the stadium seats all turn red, I fear Cardiff City will not wear blue at home again.

Disagree. If someone is wealthy enough to buy Cardiff City off Mr Tan, changing the seats back to blue would be a drop in the ocean to such a wealthy person.

Fine by me. The colour isn't important, as long as the name of the club remains the same Cardiff City will always be Cardiff City.

Why would you stop supporting them if they became Cardiff Dragons?

It is just a name, still the same club.

I didn't say I would stop supporting them, so don't twist my words.

The name itself is what the actual identity of the club is. People can go on about how the colour is the identity blah blah blah, but at the end of the day it's the name of the club which has the history and identity to its name.

If the name was ever changed I would still call the club Cardiff City anyway. Hull City will always be Hull City to me, regardless of what happened.

Manchester United's training ground is officially called the AON Training Complex. Everyone still calls it Carrington.

Is this kid delusional?

Cardiff will never be blue again.

It's over.. Leave your house and make some friends..

Get over it.

We are not changing back blue chucks lets face it. Whatever happens happens its our own fault end of

if we can put up with a red kit and blue seats, we can certainly put up with a blue kit and red seats. I know which id prefer. It'll change one day, we will be blue again.